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I have a bit of a chat log of me and Delta in IRC... It's got a few advantages listed there in a way that some may find easier to understand:
 
I have a bit of a chat log of me and Delta in IRC... It's got a few advantages listed there in a way that some may find easier to understand:
<'''Deltaneos'''> Dantman? Did you mention a problem with using String functions for those templates before?
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<pre><nowiki> <'''Deltaneos'''> Dantman? Did you mention a problem with using String functions for those templates before?
 
<'''''Dantman'''''> Few minor ones...
 
<'''''Dantman'''''> Few minor ones...
 
<'''''Dantman'''''> I can't guarantee that StringFunctions will stay...
 
<'''''Dantman'''''> I can't guarantee that StringFunctions will stay...
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<'''Deltaneos'''> So the process of changing it....
 
<'''Deltaneos'''> So the process of changing it....
 
<'''''Dantman'''''> I intend to paste this onto the community portal to show other people the advantages...
 
<'''''Dantman'''''> I intend to paste this onto the community portal to show other people the advantages...
<'''''Dantman'''''> ^_^ That's why I went into more detail even though you already may have got something...
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<'''''Dantman'''''> ^_^ That's why I went into more detail even though you already may have got something...</nowiki></pre>
 
:~<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="Dantman does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> [[Anime:User:Dantman|Daniel Friesen]]<small>-[[User:Dantman|local]]</small><small> (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire)</small> <sup>([[User_talk:Dantman|talk]])</sup> <small>Oct 24, 2007 <sub>@</sub> 22:53 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
 
:~<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="Dantman does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> [[Anime:User:Dantman|Daniel Friesen]]<small>-[[User:Dantman|local]]</small><small> (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire)</small> <sup>([[User_talk:Dantman|talk]])</sup> <small>Oct 24, 2007 <sub>@</sub> 22:53 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
   

Revision as of 07:30, 21 October 2009

Why are we here?

The answer is simple, yet complex. Some of us are here to aid in cataloging all the cards that exist. Others because we love everything about it. In many ways, we seek to integrate everything we see in sites like Ideal808, Upper Deck Entertainment, the Yu-Gi-Oh Info on Netrep, GameFAQs, and info from sites like Pojo and Metagame. Also these sites could help Manjyome Thunder, Shriek, Janime and Yu-Gi-Oh! Fans

To integrate all the reference material you see there... that is our goal. To be the best and most dedicated website in existence to all players and fans alike of the Yu-Gi-Oh! Universe, and above all, to be totally 100% free to use and quote material from.

Database Update

We are currently in the process of updating the image database in accordance with our new Image Policy. During this time, some images may be unavailable.

Please do not be offended if images you have contributed disappear from the list available under the "My Contributions" tab on your user space. To standardize filenames, images must be downloaded, saved under the new name format, and then re-uploaded. Although this does remove your credit byline from the image page, it does NOT affect your overall contributions.

Contributors

To make contact easier with the main Site Maintainers, here is a list of contact details for members that wouldn't mind lending a hand to new people:

Bureaucrat

Admins

Volunteers

Japanese names

For the cards, would it be possible to provide Romanized and translated (if not already in English) names?--208.252.179.26 03:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

  • I eventually plan to offer an English Name -> Japanese Name -> Translated Japanese Names tabled at some point. Stay tuned.--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 11:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Tagged Images

Would it be possible to use the new tagged image thing for card trivia, etc? (See example at Image:ReinforcementoftheArmyLOD-EN-SR.jpg.) --Miff Falden(tlk|fur) 03:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi everyone, dont know what you mean here miff thefox, about images I think we should add some fair use license template, for not breaking the law, what do you think? --Andersmusician$ 00:48, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Making lists more useful

The current state of lists seems a bit unsatisfactory to me. Leaving aside bad formatting and incompleteness, it's the scarcity of information which annoys me most. There's the card names followed by centimeters, even inches, of blank, unused screen space.

What about giving basic statistics for each card in the lists? We can even make tables and thx to techies running Wikia, even sortable tables (see User:Pjacobi/tabledemo). I'm rather puzzled, why class="sortable" is available but class="prettytable" doesn't work. Perhaps because the latter is left to the individual Wikias.

Of course such a change would be a lot more realistic, if these enhanced list can be generated offline from some database or on this Wiki using a bot or a bot-assisted editor.

Pjacobi 15:59, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Image request

Hi. If anyone could get card images of:

That'd be just great. Rodtheanimegod4ever 01:26, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

THIS IS URGENT!

  • hey can sum1 put in the new episodes 4 season 4? -- edited by:Ogi File:Wind.gif
    • Technically, Season 4 is not out yet. We're still in Season 3. Minhtam2448 23:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Please don't use "This is urgent" for non urgent matters. Thanks.
  • Hey, if i have a bazoo the soul eater(with the historical text version), then can i use it with the 'remove cards from graveyard' effect instead of 'remove monster from graveyard' effect if i want to play it in an official way? Need someone to clarify this ASAP as i need to rebuild my deck. thanks. -- edited by Czl1992
    • Go by whatever's on the most recent text, regardless of which text is on your card. In this case, you can only remove monsters for Bazoo's effect, no matter which card you use. --Deltaneos 10:41, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Fusion

  • I move to add a section of monster card pages to indicate what a monster can be fused into. Especially with E-heroes, this could potentially save a lot of confusion. You know, just an idea... --Phred 19:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
    • In fact, couldn't this be added to the Monster's Trivia? Just a "This monster fuses with X to form Y" Could be potentially useful! --Phred 20:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Ironoid

  • I'm iffy on the card Ironoid. There are no other websites with this card nor has anyone ever even seen the artwork. Google comes up with 10 searches; two of them our own site and the other 8 random sites not pertaining to Yu-Gi-Oh in any way or manner. -- Huajun Chen 15:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
    • I agree. Yu-Gyo.com doesn't have it, people selling every other DM1 card on ebay don't have it, that cute little site where I got our first pictures of PG, TP, and FOTM doesn't have it, Pojo's never heard of it, etc. etc. My guess, this id just another rumor, like "Dark Master Exodia" or "Foam Neos". I'll remove my request for it and terminate all links to it. then, someone can delete it. Rodtheanimegod4ever 21:12, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Disagreement in extremis! At times, it actually helps to LOOK at sites before condemning them. For example:

  • [1] - gives full details on Capsule Monster: Breed and Battle, and lists promo cards...which happen to include "アイアノイド" (Ironoid)
  • [2] - someone who actually HAS the card in question has it listed on their trade site

Just because you can't find a picture of something doesn't ALWAYS mean it doesn't exist!

--Narchibald84 09:30, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Notice to contributors and mods

If you were wondering just what in the holy hell I’ve been doing the past three days, filling up the Recent Changes section with a gazillion categorization edits, let me explain: TwoTailedFox recently stated “categorization slows a wiki down” or something among those lines. While I agree with that statement, I still think some form of organization is necessary for this website to flourish.

Merged Pages and Categories

  • Gameplay: The Basic and Advanced Gameplay categorizes have been combined into one mega-category. The numerous sub-categorizes that were formerly part of the Basic Gameplay have been cut down and also been moved to the mainstream Gameplay category. This new category is very broad—the whole reason why I underwent major revamping—but its border is thick enough to separate the term “replay” from pages in a whole other realm.
  • OTK, FTK, Lockdown: Notice how these three items no longer have categories? That’s because they’ve either they have become a deck type or moved to their respective Card Trivia pages. There’s no such thing as a lockdown without a deck built around it or an OTK that doesn’t require less than two cards.
  • Anime Terminology: Pages like “KaibaCorp”, “Electrodes”, and “Armor of Unity” have been merged and classified into their respective pages, depending on which series they belong in. The exception to this is the Millennium Items, seeing as they’re practically the symbolic centerpieces of the original anime.
  • Card Lists: Remember the massive amount of card lists we had just a few months ago? Notice how they aren’t there any more? Because really…how many people will type in “card lists” in the search engine? Isn’t it so much simpler to put information directly in front of them, rather than make them do all the work and searching? It’s because either:
    • They have been converted into templates. (Ex: Amazoness card list, Ninja card list, BEWD card list)
    • Deleted, because they’re useless. (Ex: Vampire card list, Sphinx card list)
    • Moved to their appropriate content page and abridged under a dynamic box, the same ones we use for the character decks (Ex: Counter Trap Cards card list, Field Spell Cards card list)

Card Trivia

  • Some people seem to not understand what "card trivia" is. The following is accounted as card trivia:
    • The Japanese name of a card (Ex: Sangan is called “Critter” in Japan.) There are a million and a half ways to translate Kanji into English. Before you add in a Japanese name on a trivia page, first check it up on Google or another search engine to make sure it’s widely accepted in the fandom. An example of this would be Graceful Charity’s Japanese name. It can be correctly translated into “Angel’s Charity”, “Angelic Charity”, or even “Angelic Almsgiving”. However, the most widely known Japanese name for Graceful Charity is “Angel’s Gift”.
    • Ties to historical background such as religion, literature, art, or geography.
    • The cover pages of booster packs, etc. that the card appears on. (Example: Archlord Zerato is the cover page for Ancient Sanctuary booster.)
    • Artwork censoring, in terms of sexual suggestiveness, religious offense, etc., from the OCG to TCG. Most censors include taking out the halos of fairy-type monsters, covering up the cleavage of female monsters, the demon horns taken off fiend-type monsters, or taking out the crucifix. (Examples: Shining Angel had a halo)
    • Redrawn card artwork. (Examples: Otohime, Soul of the Pure)
    • Progressive storylines that a series of cards tell. (Warrior Lady of the Wasteland was once D.D. Warrior Lady after being returned from the different dimension as seen in Karma Cut and Different Dimension Gate.)
    • Other card artwork that the card has appeared in. (Example: The man from Second Coin Toss appears in the artwork of Goblin Out of the Frying Pan, holding a Gust Fan, and alongside Goblin of Greed who has a Pot of Greed in his hands.)
    • Picture counterparts or “brothers” that resemble each other in terms of physical body features, outfits, weapons, but not necessarily, (and rarely), in color. (Example: Dryad looks like Lady of Faith.)
  • What does not count as card trivia:
    • “This card resembles a turtle”.
    • This card is spelt “so-and-so” in the video game “whatever” no longer attributes as card trivia. Misspelled video game card translations and wry card effects are now going to be distributed into their respective video games pages reserved to game glitches only.
    • The attack name of a monster. (Example: In the anime, Cyber Dragon’s attack is called “Super Strident Blast”.)
    • The different effect that a card has in the anime that’s not in the TCG. (Example: In the anime, Card of Sanctity allowed both players to draw until they have six cards in their hands.) Don’t get me wrong: This is very valuable information and we’re glad you can share it with us. However, any differences in the Anime from the TCG will be listed strictly on the Anime and Manga Appearances page rather than the trivia page.

Vandalizing

  • Vandalizing: Yes, Alexis’ boobs are big. It’s nice to know. We’ve gotten over half a dozen dickwads concerning her sex life with Jaden on her character page and that’s only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to all the reverting of vandalized pages some of us had to undergo from the multitude losers who apparently have nothing better to do than replace entire pages of content with jjswg. Please. Go jerk off to more hentai; we don’t need you here.
    • Anonymous vandalizing — We catch you up to doing no good and we ban you for anywhere from an hour (hopefully you’ll get off that library/school computer by then) to a week.
    • Logged In Vandalizing — If you have an account and are found disturbing the peace on this site, you will be banned. For an infinite amount of expiration time. You can never edit. Here. Ever. Again. So don’t do it, ok?

A new idea

  • I'd like to hear some opinions on getting a YGO Wiki-only IRC channel. (That is, if Fox approves of the idea, first. ;P) What do you think of that? It'll communicating much easier than just simply using talk pages. Maybe some of you can settle the reverting battles much quicker this way. XDD;;

Quesions? Comments? Suggestions? -- Huajun Chen 19:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

That's a nice idea. Wikia ACG has it's own channel, The Gaiapedia has a channel to (Though that's basically inactive). And I've registered a number of other ones. So if TwoTailedFox doesn't know how to, I can register the channel, and drop myself down to Alternate+Access and give him Contact status. ^_^ I'm also known in #wikia for using my own special /hammer and /backstab commands to quickly deal with flooders and other IRC spammers. That, along with the phpBB forums which have been requested to be installed here once a permissions bug is fixed would make for very nice methods of communication for users in the wiki. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen-local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Sep 18, 2007 @ 11:09 (UTC)
    • Man, you're smart. But for the rest of us who didn't graduate from geek alpha squad academy, please translate all of that into English. -- Huajun Chen 11:44, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Wikia ACG and The Gaiapedia have their own channels I've registered.
  • I can register one for the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki if TwoTailedFox doesn't know how to use ChanServ (What's used for registering a channel). Then drop my status down to second/alternate while giving TwoTailedFox primary control over the channel.
  • I have 2 special commands for my own use called /hammer and /backstab which help stop spam in the IRC like how rollback allows us to kill spam in one click instead of 2 or 3 here in the wiki.
  • An IRC Channel is a nice idea that will fit in with the phpBB Forums that will be installed here when the Wikia Tech Team fixes something wrong with them.
Got nothing to do with geeks... You started talking about IRC Channels, and I used IRC Language. Hang around in IRC and you'll pick up those terms allot. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen-local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Sep 18, 2007 @ 14:26 (UTC)
(Didn't notice the Timestamp till now) Though there is something I should note. The IRC page has some bad things which should be fixed:
  • mIRC isn't the only client, in fact there are plenty of other ones to use. You can also access IRC through the web.
  • Also, it may be a good idea to move the channel to FreeNode.
    • All of the wikia which have IRC channels use FreeNode. Not just for some sort of tradition but for some very good reasons;
    • Wikia's own IRC channel is actually located on FreeNode, not only that but Wikia itself is registered as a group there and FreeNode is the official place for any Wikia project using IRC.
    • Because Wikia's #wikia channel is located on FreeNode, the advanced support for things that users of this wiki can't help with isn't available by simply saying to someone "Just use /join #wikia for more help." if you're not on the same network.
    • There's also a very large reason using FreeNode is a good idea. Wikia has it's own CGI:IRC client located at http://irc.wikia.com so in other words, as long as the channel is located on FreeNode any user of the wiki can simply go to http://irc.wikia.com and connect to any of the Wikia channels without downloading a program. There's also http://java.freenode.net for a little better web client.
~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen-local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Sep 18, 2007 @ 14:59 (UTC)
  • 100% support behind a Freenode YGO Wiki IRC. I'm not familiar with how to use ChavServ, since I've never managed an IRC channel.--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 17:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, register a nick with NickServ for yourself TwoTailedFox on FreeNode and I'll set everything up for the channel. Which do you want I think I'll put #yu-gi-oh as the channel and redirect #yugioh to it also. Tell me when you have your Nick and I'll transfer the channel to you. I don't know how active you are, but I'll keep myself as alternate so that if your nick expires and someone takes it I'll automatically be set as Contact for the channel instead of having it suddenly disappear. I'm on nearly every day so don't worry about me expiring. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen-local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Sep 18, 2007 @ 18:23 (UTC)
I setup the channel and put up a new IRC page. I also tweaked the Sidebar. When the phpBB forums are setup we can also set MediaWiki:Forum-url to the location of the forums and it'll show up in the sidebar. Have any of you ever used a Mailing list? Wikia wikis have mailing lists associated with them, if you want we can set that up for use and also link to it from the sidebar. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen-local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Sep 18, 2007 @ 19:04 (UTC)
  • We have one set up, but I don't believe it's ever been used. Oh, btw, I already have "TwoTailedFox" on Freenode. ^^--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 19:09, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Prefixes to Namespaces

I don't know how many will understand, but I'll try and explain.

In MediaWiki we have what is known as a Namespace. This is the part before the : that you see on pages like Yu-Gi-Oh!:Community Portal and Yu-Gi-Oh!:About. But not every thing that is before : is a namespace, only certain things registered into the system are.

For some time now the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki has been using a set of 7 pages for each card:

  • Card name
  • Card Gallery:Card name
  • Card Rulings:Card name
  • Card Errata:Card name
  • Card Tips:Card name
  • Anime and Manga Appearances:Card name
  • Card Trivia:Card name

But these are not namespaces. Even though for some time they have been treated that way here.

But if the community wants it, I could request that the techs do a bit of changes to the wiki to turn the 6 prefixes into namespaces.

If you're wondering what benefits this would give to the wiki, here's an explanation:

Firstly, currently on the CardTable templates, the code Card Gallery:{{PAGENAME}} is used to link to the card's Card Gallery. However, Template:Galleries requires that the name of the card be inputted and it uses that to link to the other pages. This is because {{PAGENAME}} is a Magic Word in MediaWiki which returns the name of the page which is located after the Namespace. Just to demonstrate, when used here {{PAGENAME}} outputs "Community Portal/Archive One" because the text "Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki" in the title is a namespace. The namespace of a page can also be outputted using {{NAMESPACE}}.
But what would turning Card Gallery: into a namespace do?
As simply put as I can it's like this:
Currently for the various Template:Galleries, Template:Tips, etc... you need to input the name of the card. If the 6 prefixes were converted into Namespaces then {{PAGENAME}} would start to display the name of the card. This means that now, the templates can grab the name of the card on their own as the CardTables are able to do. ^_^ Suddenly you don't need to add the name of the card to the template. This also means that if a page is misplaced and you move it, then the template will automatically correct itself to point to the new links just as the normal card pages using Card tables do.
But it get's better... As I said before using {{NAMESPACE}} outputs the name of the namespace. Now, on the page Card Gallery:Blue-Eyes White Dragon using {{PAGENAME}} would output "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" so this means that that has the card name. In addition, using {{NAMESPACE}} would output "Card Gallery". Which gives another bonus. Remember how there were 6 different templates {{Rulings}}, {{Errata}}, {{Tips}}, {{AnimeManga}}, {{Galleries}}, and {{Trivia}} and you needed to use a specific one for each page. Well, because changing the prefixes to namespaces would let the templates also know what type of page they are on. So all 6 of those templates can be merged into one.
So what does that leave us with? Those index templates won't need input on the name, and all 6 templates can be merged. So now, if we call the new one Template:Index just sticking {{Index}} at the top of any of those pages will output the correct type of index, automatically with the card name. So those pages will now nicely work without needing user input on that.

So simply put...

  • This will allow you to use {{Index}} instead of needing to pick out a template and have user input on it.
  • Even after the change current links will still work so there's no downside.
  • And when you move pages everything will correct itself.

Don't worry about things that are currently in articles. I'm good with bots, so after the change I could easily have a bot change all the pages on it's own.

So is this something the wiki wants me to do? ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen-local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Sep 26, 2007 @ 00:40 (UTC)

Another thing of note is that when you click on "Random page", you'd only land on a page in the main space. So making those pseudo-namespaces into real namespaces means they'd no longer be picked by random pages. That may be a pro or a con. -Afker 19:54, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
That's true for Special:Randompage, but namespace is actually taken as a parameter. So Special:Randompage/Card Gallery would send you to a random gallery if the namespaces were created. Which is actually a bit of a positive because it means that most uses of Special:Randompage will give you a random card. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen-local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Sep 26, 2007 @ 22:39 (UTC)

I have a bit of a chat log of me and Delta in IRC... It's got a few advantages listed there in a way that some may find easier to understand:

 <'''Deltaneos'''> Dantman? Did you mention a problem with using String functions for those templates before?
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Few minor ones...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> I can't guarantee that StringFunctions will stay...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> I'm using them myself, but this is a test case...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Wikia is testing enabling them globally to see if there are any issues.
   <'''''Dantman'''''> There are potential issues with the extension that can lead to a Local DoS attack
             (Denial of Service, in other words so much stress something could crash the servers)
   <'''''Dantman'''''> So Wikia is testing the extension out... But if it leads to any issues from that,
             then they may disable the extension.
   <'''''Dantman'''''> The other is that it's a poor hack...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> You're basically using StringFunctions to treat a prefix like a namespace when it's not a namespace...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> It would be much more efficient and better done code wise to use real namespaces instead of imitations.
   <'''''Dantman'''''> The templates are not the only reason that it's better...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> So basically we're just going to have to wait, unless we decide to change the prefixes to namespaces
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Wait?
   <'''''Dantman'''''> For?
   <'''''Dantman'''''> The other reasons that it's better lie in randomization and searches.
 <'''Deltaneos'''> To see if they'll be disabling the extension
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Oh
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Well if that happened we could revert back...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> But I'm just saying...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> It'll be easier to cast a vote on what the community wants first... Then act...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> They don't seem keen to vote.
   <'''''Dantman'''''> I'll explain the benifits in randomization first...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> You know [[Special:Random]]
 <'''Deltaneos'''> ya
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Well that works for the main namespace...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> You can actually pass a namespace parameter to it...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> If you use [[Special:Random/image]] you'll get a random image page.
 <'''Deltaneos'''> Yeah I know how it works
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Ok
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Here's the kick...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Right now, using [[Special:Random]] will give you a random Card, Gallery, A&M Page, etc...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> I kinda like [[Special:Random]] being able to land you in any of the prefixes.
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Oh
 <'''Deltaneos'''> Although I don't use it too often
   <'''''Dantman'''''> It would be nice to be able to split it up
   <'''''Dantman'''''> You know... Splitting it up would actually make hits better...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Basically the Cards which were missing Eratta, A&M, Trivia, etc... Pages would no longer be weighted
              less than others...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> It's also nice for searches...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> We can make it so that all the new namespaces are searched by default...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> But it also means that a user can selectively search for something within the namespaces...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> So someone could specifically select trivia, and search for a set of words that are part of a triva item...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> Ah never thought of that.
   <'''''Dantman'''''> ^_^ We have some nice results from it on The Gaiapedia...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> http://gaia.wikia.com
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Take a look at the Characters/Items/Locations set there on the main page...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> You can get an allpages list of all the Items we have listed... And even search them..
 <'''Deltaneos'''> cool
   <'''''Dantman'''''> ((Though I don't know what's going on with Wikia's new search engine))
   <'''''Dantman'''''> It also means you can filter the recent changes...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> Alright, you've almost got my vote.
 <'''Deltaneos'''> Are there any disadvantages.
 <'''Deltaneos'''> ?
   <'''''Dantman'''''> http://gaia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ARecentchanges&namespace=100
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Ummm...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> let's see...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> A /dissadvantage/ one might face is if it were to break existing templates...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> That were using {{PAGENAME}}
   <'''''Dantman'''''> But even your new Navigation template uses {{FULLPAGENAME}} instead so it won't even break...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> As in using it to print Card Trivia:XXXX
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Nah...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> ok
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Or...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Well...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> I'm meaning that {{PAGENAME}} would then print Dark Magician instead of Card Gallery:Dark Magician
 <'''Deltaneos'''> Yeah I got it.
   <'''''Dantman'''''> So any template using {{PAGENAME}} instead of {{FULPAGENAME}} would switch
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Then there's the random page thing...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> You won't be able to do a random that goes through all of them...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> But you can still do individual...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> I'll get over it
   <'''''Dantman'''''> But it's not that bad because it actually makes randomized hits more random and works better...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> You're refering to the current way?
   <'''''Dantman'''''> No... I'm meaning that using prefixes will make randomized hits more random...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Using prefixes [[Special:Random]] will get you one of the Main namespace stuff...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> Yeah that's the current state
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Because the prefixed pages which are more like extensions of the Card pages are no longer in that section of the randomization
 <'''Deltaneos'''> Yes as in the current state is more random
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Not by card...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Basically by adding prefixes you'd make the random hit get you a random card, random character, etc...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> But without using namespaces, the prefixed pages are included in that...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> And the cards which are not missing Trivia, Eratta, etc... Pages will get hit more...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> Oh right, I see you meant cards with full other cards info were
             more likely to get one of their pages to appear
   <'''''Dantman'''''> If Dark Magician had a Card page, a Eratta Page, a Trivia Page, and a A&M Page and the Blue Eyes had
             a Card Page and a Trivia page, then people would see the Dark Magician pages more often
             and that card would be more noticed than the others...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> yup, you've talked me into it
   <'''''Dantman'''''> Using namespaces you are only counting the Card Pages as part of the randomization...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> yup, you've talked me into it
   <'''''Dantman'''''> I know... but I want to go into full detail even if you're the only one here...
 <'''Deltaneos'''> So the process of changing it....
   <'''''Dantman'''''> I intend to paste this onto the community portal to show other people the advantages...
   <'''''Dantman'''''> ^_^ That's why I went into more detail even though you already may have got something...
~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen-local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 24, 2007 @ 22:53 (UTC)
  • This sounds like a good idea. I'll vote for it.
    --Van Ludwig 16:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
  • You have my support. --Dinoguy1000 What?I did it! 16:55, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
  • I give you my support, it is a good idea and the only disadvantage is nothing compared to all the advantages. --Dragon Slayer 20:26, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
  • I give you my support because I do. Now can we fucking join the fucking ACG so that this site can get a fucking move on? -- Huajun Chen 00:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Supportaroosky. Danny Lilithborne 05:50, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Done, the prefixes have been converted to namespaces. There are just a few things we'll half to do later. The monobook tab for the Anime and Manga Appearances namespace is a bit long. So I'll probably fix that up with some JS (Would be nice if I had the Wiki ACG code already here to make the code cleaner). And I'll half to fix up the template being used. Also there is a little bit in the Quartz skin I need to tweak by adding a few MediaWiki namespace messages. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen-local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 12, 2007 @ 02:33 (UTC)

Adding German Cards?

Hi, I'm not sure if this discussion has come up before, but I just found a site that has good quality German Yu-Gi-Oh! card scans. And I was wondering if you would like me to upload them. Whatever the choice, heres the link. http://karten.gwindi.com/kat/Yu-Gi-Oh-C88.html. Look234 21:34, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea to me, though I'm not a member so I can't say for sure if the staff agrees.
We've already started. -- Deltaneos 22:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

User card lists

Hello all!

I recently registered here and started looking around at user pages, and I noticed: there didn't seem to be any system for users to list what and how many cards they have (although a few users (TwoTailedFox comes to mind) seem to have created their own lists). Considering that one of the reasons I registered here was to make such a list for my own collection, as well as the fact that most people who contribute here would have collections of their own that they'd probably want to brag about, it struck me as quite odd that no system was already in place. So, I started working on a system in my userspace.

So far, I've created/planned around a dozen layout templates, and have a pretty clear idea of just where I want this to go. However, I'm going to need some help making templates for every set (a task that I'm both looking forward to and dreading ^^), and an extra mind or two coming up with ideas wouldn't hurt. I've listed the templates I've made thus far for the system on my main user page, and there's also a sample set (CT04-EN) there for testing. There currently isn't any documentation, but that will follow shortly after I finish work on the templates. I'd appreciate any comments anyone might care to make, or any help anyone is willing to offer! --Dinoguy1000 What?I did it! 18:20, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, there's a format on the character pages that I'm in the process of aping for my own lists. It doesn't have a template, though. Danny Lilithborne 05:51, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Could you give me an example page of what youre talking about? I don't often look at character pages here... --Dinoguy1000 What?I did it! 17:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, Jaden Yuki is probably the best place to go; several "decks" there. Danny Lilithborne 06:20, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I have a complete list of all yu-gi-oh cards (Total:2623 cards) including the light and dark structure decks I made it Microsoft Excel I find it very effective I can e-mail you a copy yu-card. my e-mail is brian_zuck@hotmail.com 1\9\08
Thanks for the offer, but I've been planning on using the card lists here on the wiki, although you're more than welcome to help. And are you sure you have every Yu-Gi-Oh! card listed (I don't know the actual total in the English TCG, so...)? --Dinoguy1000 What?I did it! 17:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Problem Reports

You probably haven't noticed it, but Wikia has a new feature. Problem reports; There's a tab at the top of the page that lets anon people or users who don't know how to edit report an issue so others can fix it. It would be a good idea to get admins to visit Special:ProblemReports every now and then to look over the reported issues. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen-local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 4, 2007 @ 15:53 (UTC)

Also, when reporting a problem, please leave a short description as to where on the page the problem is, etc. Leaving it to the classifications provided by the "Report a problem" feature results in vague descriptions of the problem, and an admin or user responding to the report must read over the entire page (more than likely) to find the problem. --Dinoguy1000 What?I did it! 17:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


Gaming wiki chat this Sunday!

Hi all,

On Sunday October 14th there is going to be an IRC chat for gaming wikis at the #wikia-gaming channel. Contributors, admins, and foudners of all/all gaming-related wiki on Wikia are invited to discuss common issues that we might have, sharing our experiences, and helping each other out. The time of the chat will be:

California New York London
1pm 4pm 9pm

Please help to spread the word, and hope to see you there!

-User:PanSola 16:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Reminder that the IRC meeting is happening soon! You can connect to IRC by simply clicking on the blue link above. -PanSola 19:54, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Card Rarities

can you, in each card page, write the rarity of it for each pack. This would be very convenient. Thank you.

  • Yeah, it would be helpful to make Galleries. --Dragon Slayer 22:03, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Darkly big rabbi

Done! Big Boss 0 17:11, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Tip cards?

I've been wondering for some time, why is it that one never sees tip card information on the internet, beyond a simple count of the number of cards in a tip card set? If there's no copyright/other reason for it, why aren't tip cards treated with the same or similar depth here as regular OCG and TCG cards? --Dinoguy1000 What?I did it! 16:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I think it's just that no ones ever been too bothered to make any pages about them. Although they do get included in set galleries, for example Set Gallery:Duelist Pack 4: Zane Truesdale (TCG-EN). Aside from that someone made a page Tip Card, where they started listing and retyping the text for some of the Tip Cards. As far as being copyright goes, I'm unsure... -- Deltaneos 18:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Shonen Jump Yu-Gi-Oh! card poll

On page 324 of the December 2007 issue (#60) of Shonen Jump, it was revealed that Shonen Jump is holding an online poll until January 15, 2008 to help determine the next five cards to be translated into English and released in the magazine. It is important to note, however, that poll results will NOT guarantee the final selection of cards, as that choice will be up to Shonen Jump staff. Voters can choose between 20 as-yet-untranslated cards on Shonen Jump's website (and as such, the names listed below are Shonen Jump's own translations). The actual poll can be found here. A full list of card choices follows:

--Dinoguy1000 What?I did it! 04:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)