RE: Fanfiction assistance
You're most welcome. I likewise wish you luck (I know that I'll need it for my four-series crossover). Feel free to ask again if you want a hand. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 03:06, December 9, 2014 (UTC)
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RE: General Discussion Questions
Annoyingly, the anime doesn't seem to mention it, but it's in the manga, right before Bakura Duels Marik. (Might be an implication at best, however.)
Marik also seems to leave "pieces" of himself behind, which is what happened to Tea and with Bakura, the latter piece being destroyed when Ra defeated Bakura. As the main Marik wastes away in the Duel, it affects the others. Why it has him talking to Odion like he does in that form seems to be artistic license on Takahashi's part and it's never really clarified on whether it's a fragment that Marik left behind, or the main spirit of Marik using their link to contact him. (Whew. Didn't realize how complicated this could get.)
He can stick the rod in his belt if need be, as seen with Yami Marik. (Or possibly in more extreme cases, hide it under his shirt and pants.)
RE:My profile picture
In case that you haven't seen Dinoguy1000 reply in my talk page, she is Reimu Hakurei from Touhou. Though Touhou starts as a PC game, its popularity leads to many fan fictions based on it and this art is one of them. Blackwings0605 (talk) 13:59, April 20, 2015 (UTC)
RE: Strong spirits
Odion is a special case. Remember the climax of his Duel with Joey, where they were both struck down by The Winged Dragon of Ra. Odion, even though he had his devotion to Marik, was unable to rise because he had few who truly cared about him, while Joey was able to rise because of it. That being said, I absolutely would classify him as having a strong spirit, and while I don't believe that this is in the dub, Marik claims in the manga that he can't brainwash him with the Millennium Rod (though at the same time, he's buttering him up to try and get him to play the fake Ra card.
Yami Yugi definitely has a very strong soul.
Kaiba too has a strong soul, if he was ever controlled by the Rod (though somehow I doubt that'd happen, given the Rod's connection to him) and he was ordered to harm Mokuba, he'd snap free far more quickly than Joey did, I feel.
Oh yeah. Yami Marik's spirit was very powerful. He directly cites that he believes his inner strength to be far superior to Joey's during their Duel.
Marik, maybe. I think that his spirit may have gotten stronger after Battle City, possibly, but for most of his life, Yami Marik was influencing him, and Marik was usually powerless to fight Yami Marik directly. He definitely became stronger after Odion encouraged him. Ishizu, again, possibly. She believed too deeply in the futures that she saw, forgoing a quicker victory in favour of the one that she foresaw. Even had she won, according to her, her chances of rescuing Marik were slim. After that though, she became quite willing to believe in the possibilities of the future; whether or not that qualifies as a strong spirit I don't know. For the Ishtars, given that they were all Millennium Item holders, I'd assume that they had stronger spirits than the normal human.
Tea is all too easy to prey upon, though she's more than capable of defending herself, unfortunately. Yugi is her main vulnerability, but whether she'd have the strength of spirit to cope in a Shadow Game, I doubt. In addition, in the R manga, her spirit was weak enough that Yako Tenma could remove it from her body, something that he couldn't attempt on Duelists.
Mokuba actually might have a decently strong spirit; remember the Virtual World arc? It was a similar situation to Joey and Yugi's Duel. Serenity is too easily broken, I find. The supernatural horror and tortures she witnesses break her down.
Mai, unfortunately, is strong-willed, but brittle. Yami Marik broke her heavily - she was never scared of Dartz's group, but he scarred her mentally.
Yeah, he does get stronger, and arguably in a similar means to Marik. The strengthening of Yugi's spirit is actually a critical part of his development. Remember, the wish that he made on the Millennium Puzzle was too have true friends, and he only grew since then. He struggled to maintain a Shadow Game during his Duel with Pegasus, but by the time of the Memory World arc where he Dueled Yami Bakura, he'd grown out of his shell, ready and willing to fully do his part.
Oh, Bakura. He's definitely somewhat strong-willed, but after that, not only was Yami Bakura smart enough not to let him interfere, but a combination of his own personal injury and being brainwashed by the Millennium Rod kept him from doing much more. And don't forget; Yami Bakura has always been whatever he is (it's actually not that certain whether he is the Bandit King, but he is definitely a seed of Zorc Necrophades). Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 22:11, August 21, 2015 (UTC)
RE:Soul vs Spirit
Aw hell, that's always a difficult question considering the notions of spirit and soul can overlap. I did mean either spirit or soul as they can be synonymous. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 04:45, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
Marik Ishtar naming
I see you reverted my changes to the Marik Ishtar page. I just want to let you know I wasn't trying to remove any information. I was just trying to clean up some stuff that was being said more than once.
The following two extracts were saying the same thing:
Marik likely comes from the fact that often "l" and "r" alternate in names from Japanese to English, though this was not necessarily the intended substitution. The substitution occurs because there is no 'l' in the Japanese language- the closest they have is 'r'.
However, considering the Japanese pronunciation that read L and R interchangeably, because the Japanese language has no separate letters for L and R, but instead pronounce them on occasions. It's highly implied that Marik is in fact Maalik in Arabic, but due to direct Romaji spelling it became Marik.
I replaced them with something shorter that makes the same point:
"Marik" likely comes from the fact that L and R can be read interchangeably in Japanese.
These two lines:
Malik is a fairly common Arabic name, and that it means "the controller" or "king" in Arabic, fitting his use of the Millennium Rod, mind slaves, and his portrayal as a dominating villain.
Marik's name is derived from the Arabic word Malik ("king")
... were covered in the part that listed the meanings of the Arabic names and said that the "controller" one was most likely.
Ishtar is a vengeful Babylonian goddess according to the 3000 year-old epic of Gilgamesh.
... I admit removing that was a mistake. I didn't realise I did that.
I made another change not covered by my edit summary, but I thought it was non-controversial enough:
- "Some fans believe that it was made fairly obvious that it was meant to be..." → "Some fans believe it was intended to be..."
The updated version seemed less biased.
- See Talk:Marik Ishtar#Marik/Malik before reverting again. This is your warning. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:16, January 1, 2016 (UTC)
- On the same subject, please use the talk page provided if you believe this to be an edit worth including in the article, so the community may discuss it, rather than one user arbitrarily deciding on it. Any attempt to re-add that text again without discussion and an agreement will be met with a revert and a block.--TwoTailedFox (talk) 19:18, January 1, 2016 (UTC)