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Hey. I'm trying to move some card articles for the Wiki that had their main page moved, but not the rest ("Chevalier de Fleur"), but it's annoying and more difficult with it constantly being throttled. Is there any way to prevent it from being throttled, for specific users, even?--YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 14:59, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Currently, there is no way I'm aware of to remove the throttling limit for non-admins. What would be nice is a user permissions level between registered and admin that we could assign to trusted users, allowing them to do certain thing regular users can't do, but without having to make them full-fledged admins - personally, I'd have no problem promoting more admins (with community approval, of course) but it would seem to me that a less permissive level would face less potential opposition as well. If we can form a consensus that this is something we want, we can then contact Wikia staff and see if they can set us up. In the meantime, perhaps we should use a tracking thread in the forum so that needed moves can be performed by people who haven't hit the throttle yet. ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 01:25, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
I asked before if it was possible to have it changed from two moves outright to one move per namespace, since that would be enough allow people to tidy-up after moving each single card article. I got an uncertain "no"/"no sure", but that was only on IRC and wasn't fully looked into. I suppose I or someone else can try Special:Contact sometime to see what options we have. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:40, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
Special:Contact is probably the route to go, since it would allow whoever ultimately ends up responding to the email more time to research if it (or something similar) is possible and ask around if necessary. For now, moves stopped by the move throttle can be listed at Forum:Move throttle tracking thread. ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 20:26, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
I've checked through Special:Contact. It can't be changed to per namespace unfortunately. But they have no problem changing the overall rate. (It's currently 2 moves per 240 seconds.)
It's usually 3 of Gallery, Rulings, Appearances, Tips and Trivia that need to be moved after a card article is moved. It's sometimes 4 and rarely 5 or more. So 4 moves per 240 seconds should probably be enough to clean-up after moving one card article. Although it would allow users to carelessly move 5 card articles without cleaning-up. But maybe Dinoguy's changes to MediaWiki:Movepage-moved will prevent a lot of that behavior.
I didn't ask about the extra permission group, but it looks possible since the Avatar: The Last Airbender wiki got their fanonadmin permission.
They also have no problem with giving the movefile permission to other groups such as autoconfirmed or emailconfirmed if that's wanted too. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:21, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
If we're going to let non-admins have the movefile permission, I would suggest getting a new usergroup with no throttle limit, and then just hand it out to anyone who looks like they're doing a lot of pagemoves and know what they're doing, or if they ask for it and we don't think they'll abuse it. If there is abuse, it should be just as easy to remove as it was to grant. ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 23:53, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
Has this been looked into any more? I always did find the move throttling a bit annoying, as there was at least one occasion where I moved a few pages, then did not move the rest of the subpages because I had to wait, so I opened another tab and actually forgot about moving them until several hours later. A level between regular user and admin would be useful. Wikipedia itself can give users Rollback rights, and there are several other levels between that and full sysop. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 21:20, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
We can also give rollback rights, but haven't granted it very often.
If we hypothetically did get this page move usergroup added, how many would make use of it?
  1. Blackwings0605 (talk contribs)
  2. Dark-Shimy (talk contribs)
  3. Modo assalto (talk contribs)
The following know how to clean-up after pages moves and have made loads of moves, but don't seem to be too active nowadays. However they seem to be active whenever a new TCG set is released, which is when loads of pagemoves are made.
  1. 3-D (talk contribs)
  2. Dark Pride (talk contribs)
  3. Lpoi (talk contribs)
The following know how to clean-up after page moves, but haven't moved very many.
  1. ATEMVEGETA (talk contribs)
  2. Cheesedude (talk contribs)
  3. Falzar FZ (talk contribs)
  4. III (talk contribs)
  5. YamiWheeler (talk contribs)
That's from glancing through the move log. Have I missed anyone?
If we did go through with this, would it worth adding "suppressredirect"? We usually don't keep redirects for other card information pages, which are the reason for needing this group. We'd just have to trust them to not misuse it on other pages.
I'm told that the "movefile" right is locked from non-sysops because of a bug that causes the image to get "lost" sometimes. That problem can be fixed by techs, so if that was added, we should encourage anyone in this group to report this problem to to staff or someone else who will.
We should probably copy this discussion over to the forum.
-- Deltaneos (talk) 20:05, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Administator Privlileges

I was just looking over ther answer you sent me again regarding Administrator Privileges. You gave me a very succinct answer, but nowhere in it did you say that you are the only active Bureaucrat. However, as I was also perusing your Talk Page I noticed in the section on Throttling Limits you said that you would have no problem creating more administrators with the Community's approval. I do then request that you put my name up for approval with the community. I may only have access with the library but I am there most days (and I am not a kid who you would have to worry about going crazy on you and abusing the privileges. I am a 46 year old who has a background in Computer Science. My knowledge base might not be totally up to date, however I do take my responsibilities seriously.Glittersword 20:37, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Just like to point out that it was Dinoguy that mentioned the creation of more admins, not Deltaneos. Not saying Delta would have a problem doing so, I can't speak for him, but it wasn't him that mentioned it in the first place. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 21:20, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oops. my bad. Sometimes it is hard to spot the changes in who is speaking when in this type of forum. It doesn't seperate things as well as some of the older types of forums that were/are used. The main reason I would like them is to clean up after myself, and posibbly to sweep out some of the older images that were never up to par and were just being used as placeholders until something beter was uploaded. One thing I wouldn't get rid of though is when someone uploaded a super large and detailed image. I would Download/shrink and re-upload the smaller Image but I like the Idea of the original being available. If one of the other Admins were to delete them, I would have no problem as long as I had already Downloaded it. (I've got my copy in that case.) Glittersword 16:52, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Holy Knights (Sacred Knights)

聖騎士ジャンヌ 星4 光属性 戦士族 1900/1300 このカードが攻撃する場合、ダメージステップの間このカードの攻撃力は300ポイントダウンす る。 また、このカードが相手によって破壊され墓地へ送られた場合、手札を1枚墓地へ送って発動する 事ができる。 自分の墓地に存在するレベル4以下の戦士族モンスター1体を選択して手札に加える。

Seikishi Jyanne (Paladin Joan)

4 Stars/LIGHT/Warrior-Type - Effect/1900 ATK/1300 DEF When this card attacks, it loses 300 ATK during Damage Calculation only. If this card is destroyed by your opponent's card (either by battle or by card effect) and sent to the Graveyard, you can send 1 card from your hand to the Graveyard to activate. Select 1 Level 4 or lower Warrior-Type monster in your Graveyard and add it to your hand.

聖騎士の盾持ち 星4 光属性 戦士族 800/1300 このカードが召喚に成功した時、自分の墓地に存在する光属性・戦士族モンスター1体をゲームか ら除外する事 で、デッキからカードを1枚ドローする。

Seikishi no Tatemochi (Paladin's Shield Bearer)

4 Stars/LIGHT/Warrior-Type - Effect/800 ATK/1300 DEF When this card is Normal Summoned, you can remove from play 1 LIGHT Warrior-Type monster in your Graveyard to draw 1 card.

聖騎士の槍持ち 星2 光属性 戦士族 800/400 フィールド上に表側表示で存在するこのカードをリリースする事で、自分のデッキから装備魔法カ ード1枚を手 札に加える。

Seikishi no Yarimochi (Paladin's Spear Bearer)

2 Stars/LIGHT/Warrior-Type - Effect/800 ATK/400 DEF You can tribute this face-up card to add 1 Equip Spell Card from your Deck to your hand.

花騎士団の駿馬 星3 風属性 獣族 400/800 このカードが召喚に成功した時、デッキから「聖騎士の槍持ち」1体または「融合」魔法カード1 枚を手札に加 える事ができる。

Hanakishidan no Shunme (Swift Horse of the Floral Knight Brigade)

3 Stars/WIND/Beast-Type - Effect/400 ATK/800 DEF When this card is Normal Summoned, you can add 1 "Paladin's Spear Bearer" OR "Yuugou" Spell Card to your hand. Note: I am unsure if this card specifically searches out Polymerization or any Spell Card with "Yuugou" in its name.

ケンタウルミナ 星6 光属性 獣戦士族 2200/1600 「聖騎士の槍持ち」+「花騎士団の駿馬」 1ターンに1度、自分のターンに相手が罠カードを発動した時、その発動を無効にしそのカードをセ ットする事 ができる。

Kentaurumina (Centaur(u)mina)

6 Stars/LIGHT/Beast-Warrior-Type - Effect, Fusion/2200 ATK/1600 DEF "Paladin's Spear Bearer" + "Swift Horse of the Floral Knight Brigade" Once per turn, during your turn, if your opponent would activate a Trap Card, you can negate that activation and Set that card.

チェーン・クローズ 通常罠 フィールド上に存在するカードが戦闘またはカードの効果によって破壊され墓地へ送られた時に発 動する事がで きる。 相手はエンドフェイズ時まで魔法・罠カードを発動する事はできない。 このカードの発動に対して魔法・罠・効果モンスターの効果を発動する事はできない。

Cheen Kuroozu (Chain Close)

Normal Trap Card Activate only when a card on the field is destroyed by battle or a card effect and sent to the Graveyard. Your opponent cannot activate Spell or Trap Cards until the End Phase. Spells, Traps and Effect Monsters' effects cannot be activated in response to this card's activation.

フローラル・シールド 通常罠 相手モンスター1体の攻撃を無効にし、デッキからカードを1枚ドローする。

Furooraru Shiirudo (Floral Shield)

Normal Trap Card Negate the attack of an opponent's monster and draw 1 card.

フルール・ガード 通常罠 自分フィールド上に表側表示で存在する戦士族モンスター1体を選択して発動する。 そのモンスターはエンドフェイズ時まで破壊されない。

Furuuru Gaado (Fleur Guard)

Normal Trap Card Select 1 face-up Warrior-Type monster you control. That monster cannot be destroyed until the End Phase.

Source Janime // Shriek SarahAkisa (talkcontribs) 17:41, August 25, 2010 (UTC) SarahAkisa

List of deaths in Yu-Gi-Oh!

Would you have any objection to my linking the word "death" or the like in various articles to this page. As it stands, it's really an orphaned page, though I'm not sure if links that are appropriate... Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 17:45, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Funny Thing happening...

...this picture is all I need to tell ya, good friend. --FredCat T.P.F.R.J.R.W.S. 20:19, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, it's him all over again...

Can you just please wording him smoothly, he just blasted my Talk Page as if we had never dissolving our argument from the past... --FredCat T.P.F.R.J.R.W.S. 20:57, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

And I am being insulted... --FredCat T.P.F.R.J.R.W.S. 21:02, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Obelisk, Ra and the Illegal page

On the Illegal page, the links to Obelisk the Tormentor and The Winged Dragon of Ra redirect to their legal counterparts. These should link to the origional versions, and I'd recommend leaving "(original)" in the link to make it clear which ones are illegal.-- (talk) 02:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see. The bot that was correcting the links to the Egyptian Gods after we renamed their articles missed that page since it's protected. Thanks for the notification. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:01, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Discussion and Talk Questions

I am curious why those board have "Discussion" next to their article, while the actually page was "Talk:name here"? Why not they have matched title or so? To avoid confusedness in the future... You know what I am talking about? --FredCat T.P.F.R.J.R.W.S. 03:09, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

It used to say "talk". I'm not sure why it was changed to "discussion", but it is possible for us to change it back if we want. -- Deltaneos (talk) 03:16, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
I see, I would rather to see same title and subtitle, to keep our mind straight instead of trip over some silly flower. --FredCat T.P.F.R.J.R.W.S. 03:17, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

PoirotH and his silly Titles

I would like to discuss with you about the Elf page. I don't think it should be considered as an archetype because it lacks support cards. Just because they have an identical word in their name, it shouldn't make them an archetype.

  • Actually, I did find one monster that supports monsters with "Elf" in their name, but it's manga-only so shouldn't we include in that archetype cards that are only used by the person in the manga?

PoirotH (talkcontribs) 12:12, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I'd say include all "Elf" (エルフ) monsters. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:42, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Can we block this guy?

There's been a lot of vandalism going on for the past couple days (which is weird because I thought the kiddies were back in school now). But, this guy has been causing a mess of trouble:

And he seems to have a weird banana obsession... Block please? Skullvarnish (talkcontribs) 17:32, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I agreed with him, Delta, I have noticed him tried to undo the whole mess earlier. But I should following your advice if I were Skull-varnish... wait for those idiots to wasted their fun then revive them all back. --FredCat T.P.F.R.J.R.W.S. 17:48, August 27, 2010 (UTC)


He's moving pages and I'm the only who has to fix those moves and he keeps moving pages. Please block him NOW. Dark-Shimy (talkcontribs) 03:50, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Seriously we don't need trolls. --DeaththeKid

Agreed, I dunno who this troll is, but it's getting a little too annoying to clean up all these pages... Seriously. Raining Stars (talkcontribs) 03:54, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hidden Arsenal

Hey Del! :)

Is the Hidden Arsenal page supposed to have an OCG spoiler list, just like DREV for example?--Hydronic (talkcontribs) 21:41, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I suppose it would be more consistent if we did. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:00, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Hey dude, i really need a favor from you, it won't take much

i need you to delete my last message. it starts with

subject: Ostavi mi poruku

body: posalji mail na (my mail here)

thanks a lot dude. or @ least edit the mail out you can CTRL+F it here.

Template:Navigation category sortkey

"Not sure why this was thought to be unnecessary. Everything's under "C" now."[1]

That would be because I removed it before I realized that, unlike Wikipedia, Wikia does not sort by {{PAGENAME}} by default, but still sorts by {{FULLPAGENAME}}. After I came to that realization, I stopped removing sortkeys, but didn't really go back through templates and replace those I'd removed already. ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 22:01, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Duel Terminal page problem

Hey Deltaneos. I currently have been thinking about a possible future problem with the Duel Terminal page. I am in charge of this page, and soon to be in chrage of a new article on the Duel Terminal page called Official YVD Tournament. The problem here is that when I started in this wiki, I tried to post duel requests on the Duel Terminal page. When I clicked "Save Page", and went back to the Duel Terminal page to make sure my article was posted to the public, it wasn't there; it disappeared. This could be a problem on September 9 (when I will create the page). Do you know what can fix my situation? DED((Talk Page!!) 03:45, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Two questions

1. I've recently been changing mentions of "spells" to "magic" in articles relating to DM, since they were called "magic" in both versions back then. It makes more sense to me that way, we don't go changing "Fusion Deck" to "Extra Deck" in GX articles. Do you think it's a good idea?
2. I'm planning on creating an article for Axel Brodie's father, but unsure what to call it. Just "Mr. Brodie", maybe?. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 16:19, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, great. Thanks. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 16:28, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Lord of the King

Sup Del, you were talking about the Jack Atlas movie on the IRC the other day. I just wanted to let you know that in 5D's 124, you can clearly see the movie cover that says "Lord of the King", so it's not Road of the King. ;).--Hydronic (talkcontribs) 15:29, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yes, you did mention it is written Lord of the King in 124. I must have missed that part '^_^. But why haven't you changed the name on its page?--Hydronic (talkcontribs) 23:24, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Moving Images

  • Heya. Could you move these two to more standard image file names, please? For some reason, I'm unable to rename images myself. Thanks.--YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 17:23, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Template Help

  • Sorry to bug you again, but I was wondering if you could help me with a few things. I made an archive page similar to yours, and followed this to try to get it to autocollapse, but it just won't work. Rawr. Do you have any idea why, or what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance.--YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 18:23, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks so much. >_< It was driving me insane. It's fixed now. <3 --YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 23:38, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
  • Indeed, I have noticed that my Archives page is very different from your and Wheeler's as due to lacked of "FredCat100's Archive Page 1" crap like that. I would be pleasure if you helped me to straight it up and right order. --FredCat T.P.F.R.J.R.W.S. 23:35, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Throw Damage

Is that an official term? The article doesn't have too many edits, and I've not kept up with new terms in the game for quite a while, so I thought this might be a "drive-by" page, so to speak. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 23:20, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

PLZ add Cursed Armaments to Duelist Revolution's TCG Set

PLZ. Zeroblizzard (talkcontribs) 19:55, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Zeroblizzard

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