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I did it; it's called "Four Elemental Monsters"--Wasn't (talkcontribs) 20:56, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

I went ahead and moved it to the shorter, more general title "Four Elements". ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 22:36, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

That name wasn't my idea; i got it form Attribute Spirits. Should I delete "Four Elemental Monsters" section since it's a duplicate of "..." (forgot) the name--Wasn't (talkcontribs) 23:24, December 26, 2010 (UTC).

I'm not sure what section you're talking about... If you mean the redirect, it's fine. ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 02:21, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Where's your "Question" section"--Wasn't (talkcontribs) 23:24, December 26, 2010 (UTC)?

I archived it. That wasn't a general section for questions, but rather just a case where someone asked me a question and chose to use a really generic header. When you start a new discussion on my (and other users') talk page, you should use the "leave message" link next to the "edit" link (for Monobook), or just start a new section manually (for Wikia/Oasis). ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 02:21, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
who's "Wikia/Oaisis"?--Wasn't (talkcontribs) 02:33, December 27, 2010 (UTC)?
Wikia is the name of the "new look" skin, the one with a dark red background and fixed-width content area. Before it was released to all users, it was codenamed Oasis (and Monobook is the name of the only other skin that can be used on Wikia now). Unfortunately, "Wikia" is also the name of the company that runs this whole website - one of many issues I take with the new skin. ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 03:09, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Armored Ninjas

Should we still put "Armored Ninjas"; there effects are totally different.--Wasn't (talkcontribs) 12:31, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yes; it's quite clear from their names and the images we have so far that they're intended to be a Four Elements-themed group. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:13, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

"Attribute Spirit" Related

"Gigastone Omega" is related to "Attribute Spirit"; it's the advanced form of "Gigantes"; I got it from "Card Trivia:Gigastone Omega".--Wasn't (talkcontribs) 22:05, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Do the other three have similar advanced forms? If not, it's not really a Four Elements member, and if so, those four are their own sub-series. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:21, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
Others don't have advanced form. I forgot This card's summoning method is the same as "Fenrir" and "Soul of Purity and Light "; they both require two of their Attribute removed from grave to play to special summon them from hand. What's "own sub-series"? --Wasn't (talkcontribs) 23:55, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
Just a particular subset of a series of cards. For instance, the Attribute Spirits include "Spirit of Flames", "The Rock Spirit", "Aqua Spirit", and "Garuda the Wind Spirit" as well as being closely related to "Inferno", "Gigantes", "Fenrir", and "Silpheed", each of these groups of four monsters could be called a sub-series of Attribute Spirits (though a better example would be the Charmers, which feature (among others) "Familiar-Possessed" and "Spiritual Art" sub-series). ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:42, August 14, 2011 (UTC)
You just gave me an idea; then what about Charmer cards; we could put "Familiar-Possessed" and "Final Forms" here since they are only 4 attributes--Wasn't (talkcontribs) 13:22, August 14, 2011 (UTC)
No, they should stay with the Charmers on Six Attributes - they are part of the same series, and there's always the chance that Dharc and Lyna will receive Familiar-Possessed and Final Form forms. --Dinoguy1000 (talk contribs) as (talk) 16:14, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

"B.E.S." series

should we add the OCG/TCG's "B.E.S" series in here since they also are part of 4 attributes.--Wasn't 21:42, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Sad News

"Master D" wants to delete all the stuff that's on Four Elements; his reason is "This page isn't needed; some of the archetypes on this list don't even have anything to do with Attributes, and their correspondence to specific Attributes isn't important enough for it to have its own page; you can just state it on their Archetype pages."--Wasn't 14:41, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

I strongly disagreed with what Sénior D was thinking - this article and Six Attributes are very well written articles that handled each details of anything with same information (Elemental Lord, Charmer, etc.) so no need to deleting. --iFredCat 14:54, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Well written? Six Attributes is a cluster****, and Four Elements isn't much better. I'd say keep the templates but scratch the pages; the templates connect us to the man pages of each series/archetype. I have been thinking what Master D has for a while now; having SA and FE pages is redundant. --Golden Key (talkcontribs) 15:07, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Agree, the pages aren't necessary, but keep both Templates. --Missign0 (talkcontribs) 15:16, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
What about those advanced forms of Charmer and Familiar-Possessed? Such as "Blazing Hiita" for explain? Those monsters don't have their own pages, I know they are not archetype and whatever, but they deserved to have one to be fairly with their young forms. If this article along with Six Attributes had to go, then it's time to create the new articles base on those that we had been work so hard since. --iFredCat 15:20, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
That information can be moved to the Charmer page. --Missign0 (talkcontribs) 17:24, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Of course, but what about "Blazing Hiita", "Avalanching Aussa", "Storming Wynn" and "Raging Eria"? They deserved their own page! --iFredCat 17:34, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
The Charmer page is specifically for the "Charmer" series - "Aussa the Earth Charmer", "Hiita the Fire Charmer", etc. - and should not be used to also cover the four "advanced" Charmers, since they're not part of the series (it should, however, cover the relationship between the two groups, as it currently does). As I've said elsewhere, the "advanced" Charmers undoubtedly need their own page - this is something I wanted to create back when I cleaned up the "Charmer" page - but the problem is what to call such a page, since there is no commonality in their names like we usually use. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:20, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
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