really? 15500ATK Machine Emperor Grannel Infinity and Jack actually beat Lucianoo and Placido? are you joking? 70.79.82.181 (talk) 06:09, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
I can confirm that Jack beated Lucciano and Placido himself. For 15500 ATK Machine Emperor Grannel Infinity, I'm not sure that it's confirmed or not, until there is an evidence image that prove it. However, reaching 15500 ATK for Grannel isn't so much difficult, just absorbs "Red Nova Dragon" and plays "Limiter Removal" Blackwings0605 (talk) 06:35, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
But... it's a Turbo Duel, so non-"Speed Spell" Spell Cards can't be activated... :\ --Yes, it's PSYCHID! He talks! He does stuff! 23:56, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
- OK here's what I'm thinking: "Machine Emperor Grannel Infinity" gains ATK equal to half its owner's Life Points -- if Summoned early on enough, Jose's Life Points would be 4000, so half is 2000 ATK. Then I'm guessing that by "Infinite Spirit Machine," 80 counters will have been accumulated from having Lucciano and Placido both losing 4000 Life Points each; probably the 80 counters will either translate to 100 ATK each that will be given to "Machine Emperor Grannel Infinity," for a total of 10,000 ATK. Then it will equip "Red Nova Dragon" to itself having 5500 ATK for a total of 15,500 ATK. Bhigpx (talk • contribs) 02:05, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
- i don't think scar-red nova dragon's effect work while as a equip card, so it would only be 1000ATK less.70.79.82.181 (talk) 03:45, October 19, 2010 (UTC)