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Atem

Shouldn't this page be called Atem? —This unsigned comment was made by 64.79.179.254 (talkcontribs) 19:29, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Pharaoh Atem has a seperate article. This page refers specifically to his spirit, that was sealed in the Millennium Puzzle. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

The Seal of Orichalcos...

... was never part of a Deck Yami used. It was part of Rafael's Deck the time Yami used it. The time regular Yugi used it, he had a seperate Deck than Yami. -- Deltaneos (talk) 09:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

transformation

Are the characters in universe able to actually see the difference between the two when he transforms, or is that just a metaphor for the audience?-71.199.75.172 02:12, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

No, because in the manga there isn't a height difference between them at all.

Name debate

I really do not recall it ever being stated in the Anime that his name was Yami Yugi. I do remember him telling Yugi that he had been called many things such as Yami, Yu-Gi-Oh, Pharoh. And then Yugi replies saying he would call him friend. I've never understood why people call him Yami Yugi when technically he isn't Yugi. Wouldn't it be better if he was just called Yami?--Alpha Lycos 21:08, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

He's been called "Yami" and "Yugi" in the English anime. I think you're right that he has never been called "Yami Yugi", but any anime character guides, such as the 4Kids website and sticker albums, call him "Yami Yugi". His name is also listed as "Yami Yugi" in video games, although the other characters don't call him by that full name.
Similarly in the English manga and most Japanese media, he's called "Dark Yugi". I don't think he's ever been called that by the characters, who just called him "Yugi" or "the other Yugi". But the character guide at the start of the manga volumes calls him "Dark Yugi" and so do the official websites for the Japanese animes. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:31, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
I was led to believe Yami Yugi meant Dark Yugi —This unsigned comment was made by 82.23.140.62 (talkcontribs) 21:27, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
It does. Yami is Japanese for Dark. When it comes to using proper nouns in a language other than the one they originate from, some people will translate them and some will leave them untranslated. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:06, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Infobox image

I think the current infoox image is kind of dull. Is anyone else interested in changing it? Some of the recent images used are:

Does anyone have a preference out of them or another one to suggest? -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:46, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

I vote for the Battle City shot. --OMG! You did it (talkcontribs) 15:47, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
I prefer the images of him surrounded my monsters from the bunkoban. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 16:06, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
It's not actually from the bunkoban. I don't know where it's from, but it has the Japanese second series anime logo printed on it. It looks like a poster or pencil board or something. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:26, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough. I just assumed it was, though why I did I'm not entirely sure. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 23:54, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

I like those pictures! They're pretty neat. :) Degrassigirl07 (talkcontribs) 18:49, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Cloth change

It should be added, that, when Yugi switches with Atem, his clothes changes. Yugi wears a white shirt underneath his School-uniform and kickers. Yami-Yugi wears dark-Blue clothing and shoes.

"Yami Yugi" and "Dark Yugi"

Since "Dark" is just a literal translation for "Yami", shouldn't his name just be considered Yami Yugi? —This unsigned comment was made by 187.11.45.115 (talkcontribs) 16:18, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

No. It would be pronounced Yami Yugi in Japanese, but it was meant to be translated as Dark Yugi. 4Kids just decided that Yami sounded cooler, I guess. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 18:58, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
In the afterword for volume 6 of the bunkoban, Takahashi used "Yami Maric" as the English name for "闇マリク", so the same could be said for Yami Yugi and Yami Bakura. I'd still say both are acceptable. It's a matter of preference; some people prefer to leave names, titles and/or other proper nouns untranslated when converting to a different language and some don't. The English manga uses "Dark Yugi" at least.
I'd still stick with "Dark" though, since it's more consistent with other translations. Same with "Jonouchi". The spelling "Jyonouchi" has been used in the Japanese anime, but "Jonouchi" is also valid, used in the English manga and consistent with other romanisations. It's still worth noting both translations/romanisations though. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:17, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Bonds beyond time

Why is his appearance in Bonds Beyond Time canonical but in the Pyramid of Light not?--77.13.148.152 (talk) 23:28, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Bonds Beyond Time is considered canon? In that case, it'd probably have something to do with the time travel element. As for PoL, it's widely regarded as non-canon due to the fact that none of the events are alluded to in ANY capacity, though that's a guess on my part. Lord Grammaticus (talkcontribs) 23:38, December 13, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, BBT is canon. The events in it are directly referenced in Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's. Elements in PoL are never mentioned again, ever. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 01:41, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
Right, then. Lord Grammaticus (talkcontribs) 01:52, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

When were the events of BBT referred in Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's? BTW we had the same discussion in the Kaiba article. And in my oppinion it's no real evidence that PoL is no canon. Though only because you don't speak about an event it might has happend as well. I think we can't say it clear if it's canon or not.--77.13.131.249 (talk) 17:48, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Problem is, it's not that no one speaks about it - it's that it's never even alluded to by anything ever, meaning there's a chance it may as well not happened. That's likely the reason it's considered non-canon. Lord Grammaticus (talkcontribs) 17:51, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Actually BBT time is canon in 5ds (episode 146, Z-one brings up that he had Parodox travel back in time, and Yusei recalls facing Parodox. There's even a brief flashback). Shardsilver (talkcontribs) 17:55, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ahhhh. Lord Grammaticus (talkcontribs) 17:57, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ok. I didn't know that there really was an episode of 5Ds with a reference of BBT. In Germany this episode has not aired yet. Sry for opening that discussion. I think I've got misunderstood the definition of the word canon. So, if I'm right non-canonical doesn't inevitable mean that it hasn't happened. Btw sorry for my bad english.--77.13.131.249 (talk) 18:13, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Spirit Partners

yami yugi had spirit partners in yugioh, so did kaiba and joey. granted spirit partners were a more inportant plot point in later yugioh series, but they did exiust in the original series, so i believe they should be added to there pages.DalekSupreme13 (talkcontribs) 05:33, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

No, not really. can't most of those occasions be explained via Solid Vision? There were DM, DMG and BEWD, but those were all specifically because of their past lifes as Mahado, Mana and Kisara. The concept is similiar to that of a spirit partner, but not the same. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 06:45, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
what about the eygptian god cards and the sacred dragons and kuriboh. the spirits of these monsters appear in the show many times. also, it is probably safe to assume that red eyes is also a spirit because of how it reacts to joey

when he was controlled by marik and in yugi's battle city duel with kaiba.DalekSupreme13 (talkcontribs) 07:35, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, sure, they were spirits. But they weren't spirit partners. 17:38, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
joey kaiba and yami were the only ones who could use the sacred dragon and only those of eygption decent could use the god cards and kuriboh relationship to yami is the same as winged kuriboh is to jaden and red eyes relationship to joey is the same as blue eyes is to kaiba.DalekSupreme13 (talkcontribs) 05:54, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, only they could use them. That doesn't make them spirit partners. Kuriboh was not the same as Winged Kuriboh. Kuriboh rarely appeared as a spirit. And Red-Eyes has no relationship to Joey at all besides being his ace card. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 06:11, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

No, Red-Eyes was much more than just Joey's ace monster. In the Japanese version, Joey clearly regains consciousness the moment Red-Eyes is played during Yugi's duel with Kaiba. Earlier, when Joey dueled Yugi, I believe he even called Red-Eyes his partner. It was never really clarified what qualifies a monster to be a spirit partner, but Joey and his Red-Eyes do share some kind of bond.--50.0.66.129 (talk) 19:40, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

I believe that Joey's connection to Red-Eyes is more about what the card represents sentimentaly then a spirit partner bond. He won it in one of his first duel, becoming a symbol of his growth. Later, he gave Red-Eyes to Yugi as a symbol of friendship, which is why Yugi played it in the first place when Joey was controlled. 74.99.165.228 (talk) 05:53, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

A Relationship section

Yami Yugi's page really needs a section for his relationship with Yugi, as there are many things to add toward it, and explain in depth. As Yami's emotion towards Yugi is more complex than Yugi's toward Yami. I would have added such section, but if someone can make a summary and the basics for it so It can be improved upon, it would really be better than me having to write long paragraphs on the page that may be deemed unnecessary.--Luma.dash (talkcontribs) 16:44, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

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