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Split?[]
Wouldn't it be best to split this Archetype into Temporal Machines (For Metaion, Angel, and that thing in tomorrow's episode) and this article (Just for Metaion and that thing in tomorrow's ep) --Blackstone Dresden (talk • contribs) 04:13, February 9, 2011 (UTC)
Just a bit of an advice: People could put here the "tree" of the Temporal Machine Gods that appeared in the episode 147. I don't know how to do it but it's something to improve this topic.
F.E.A.R. (talk • contribs) 20:34, February 13, 2011 (UTC)F.E.A.R.F.E.A.R. (talk • contribs) 20:34, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
There're What?![]
Where is the citation that the Temporal Machine Gods are based on pasted Yu-Gi-Oh villians? BuzzSawBill (talk • contribs) 22:28, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
- I'd like to see this too. I can buy Gozaburo's face. But Metaion's face looks NOTHING like Fujiwara. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:34, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
- I think the same, Cheesedude, except that the look on Metaion's eyes are somewhat similar to Fujiwara's, I think. Siguiendo la luna no llegare lejos, tan lejos como se pueda llegar ♫ 03:34, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
- I'd say it looks more like Vellian Crowler I mean it's just plain creepy! Mattwo (talk • contribs) 03:12, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
- As of [149] I think we can tell they're not past villains at all. Mattwo (talk • contribs) 19:08, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
- The section has since been removed. Hopefully no one re-adds it. The fact that that info was there in the first place has become the butt of a few jokes at various YGO forums. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:20, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
- Can we just get rid of the face trivia crap? This is ridiculous, they don't look *anything* like these characters. They're unique faces. Period. -Makoeyes987
- I agree. People are grasping at straws here. I removed it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 13:07, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
- Can we just get rid of the face trivia crap? This is ridiculous, they don't look *anything* like these characters. They're unique faces. Period. -Makoeyes987
- The section has since been removed. Hopefully no one re-adds it. The fact that that info was there in the first place has become the butt of a few jokes at various YGO forums. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:20, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
Translation[]
Can't this be accurately translated as both "Time Machine Gods" and "Temporal Machine Gods". If that is not the case and "Time Machine Gods" is more accurate, then the articles should probably be moved. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:39, March 4, 2011 (UTC)
- I thought it would be okay if we just left it as "Temporal Machine God" mainly because it sounds better then just "Time Machine God" cause that seems kinda plain, and I don't think it should be "Time Machine Deity" because if they're all deities, then whose the god who controls them? So I think it'd be a lot better if we just left it as Temporal Machine God.
- I browsed Metaion, the Timelord's page, and found a trivia remark that said that Jikaishin does not actually translate to "Temporal Machine God" because "machine" is only a fanlation and not a part of the real translation. Is that true? BuzzSawBill (talk • contribs) 03:11, September 4, 2012 (UTC)
A thought...perhaps off-topic but still[]
Wait wait wait. If Sephiron=representation of a god, than that means Jack and Yusei defeated the devil(Red Nova)and a god!?!
- Eh...technically Jack was the one who defeated the Crimson Devil, but if you count the Aesir Gods as well back in the WRGP...well, they're just cards, and aren't the actual thing, except for Red Nova. So they didn't really defeated a god, just that Jack defeated the Crimson Devil, and Yusei got the Aesir Gods removed from play...yeah, that should answer your question.
- The Earthbound Immortals were also techically gods themselves. Red Nova aka the Crimson Devil was supposedly their leader too. Mattwo (talk • contribs) 05:23, July 30, 2011 (UTC)
- Also from what I can tell the Æsirs were either the embodiment of the gods themselves or were given to the guys who used them by the gods. In the later case, then they were not actual gods. However it is heavily implied that they ARE in fact the real deal. Ironically Loki is NOT an Æsir, but still a god-like being regardless. Mattwo (talk • contribs) 05:28, July 30, 2011 (UTC)
- The Earthbound Immortals were also techically gods themselves. Red Nova aka the Crimson Devil was supposedly their leader too. Mattwo (talk • contribs) 05:23, July 30, 2011 (UTC)
- Eh...technically Jack was the one who defeated the Crimson Devil, but if you count the Aesir Gods as well back in the WRGP...well, they're just cards, and aren't the actual thing, except for Red Nova. So they didn't really defeated a god, just that Jack defeated the Crimson Devil, and Yusei got the Aesir Gods removed from play...yeah, that should answer your question.
Template Editing??[]
So I wanted to edit the template for Temporal Machine Gods, but I can't seem to, because there isn't a edit button or anything on it...any way to edit it so it can become complete?
- The wiki as a whole is having some issues with navbox templates. It should be fixed eventually. In addition, the navboxes can't actually be edited on individual pages. In this case, the template searches for all cards that have "archetype1 = Temporal Machine God" on their card pages and displays them as the archetype members. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:38, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
- Pages using "archetype1 = Temporal Machine Gods" need to be changed to use "archetype1 = Temporal Machine God", since redirects are no longer accepted for that kind of query. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:00, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, gheez. I didn't realize that. That would explain all the navbox problems. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:05, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
- I went ahead and changed "Gods" to "God" on all the pages, but it doesn't seem to have helped. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:47, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
- Pages using "archetype1 = Temporal Machine Gods" need to be changed to use "archetype1 = Temporal Machine God", since redirects are no longer accepted for that kind of query. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:00, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
changed archetype name[]
can anyone else confirmed that "Time Lord" is the actual TCG name. i saw that someone renamed Sephylon The Ultimate Time Lord, so i followed but wasn't sure. LastMinute (talk • contribs) 06:36, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
- Is Toywiz reliable? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 15:08, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know. I think they once said that there would be TCG versions of Surge of Radiance (called Wave of Flashing Light) and Curse of Darkness. I think we should play safe and wait for proof from somewhere else. -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:15, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, I would say wait for an actual picture for confirmation. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:54, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
- Is there any actual confirmation of this? Several other pages were moved (naturally without the subpages going with them or the translation being re-added). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:32, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
- We've got a picture of "Selphylon" confirming the TCG name change, are we waiting for something else or are we not changing the other cards' names? Because I have a hunch they'll never get official cards. Golden Key (talk • contribs) 17:35, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, there is a an actual picture now then. Then yeah, the anem is official. We should move the rest though, since it is an archetype. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:06, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
Obvious Dr.Who referene is obvious108.46.98.79 (talk) 05:17, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
- Not really; the only common thread with Dr. Who is the name "Time Lord". It is a very plausible coincidence, though. 「ディノ奴千？！」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:36, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
- Too true as "Time Lord" makes a most logical choice of words for this. "Time" is much shorter to say than "Temporal" and "Lord" is one of but few words that can substitute for "God". Other words like "Master", "Deity", etc probably don't ring so well.--Dragonking (talk • contribs) 04:41, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
Time Lord Names[]
Are we sure that all the other Time Lords have commas in? Sephylon could just have a comma in becuase it has Ultimate added in so it has a longer name. Also, if you say Metaion the Time Lord, it sounds 110% than better Metaion, the Time Lord becuase there will have to be a long gap between saying Metaion and the . 86.15.144.198 (talk) 09:09, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
It has been confirmed that Metaion's English name does indeed have the comma in it, unlike the French version. One thing that does confuse me, though, is how Metaion's name is "Timelord", whereas Sephylon's name is "Time Lord". So regarding the archtype name, do we go with the former or the latter? 69.59.98.188 (talk) 19:15, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
- There's a chance that the OP image isn't the finalised image. Sephylon could change... maybe. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:55, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
- So the OP was right after all.
- Anyhow, the Anime/Manga names should all have the same format. Currently, they are messed up.
- The comma should stay, as all official printed cards contain it.
- Now, should we use "Time Lord" or "Timelord"?
- "Time Lord" was the newer TCG card; but it also is the only "the Ultimate Time Lord" card.
- "Timelord" was the older TCG card; but all the others are "the Time Lord"
- -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:52, January 15, 2012 (UTC)
YAHWEH
Note Sephylon is Based On Yahweh and Not The Kabbalah Itself only Gets the Name to Make it Not Offecive Sould Be Noted aswell as The Da'at Symble In the TimeLord Basing —This unsigned comment was made by 49.176.37.109 (talk • contribs) 15:16, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
Pretty sure it's Temporal Machine God, although it may just be my Placido image collection on the wall telling me that. 集いし星が新たに輝く星となる。光さす道となれ！シンクロ召喚！飛翔せよ、《スターダスト・ドラゴン》! —Preceding undated comment added 18:29, July 25, 2015
- "Temporal" and "Time" are synonyms. Neither is wrong. "Time" is used over "Temporal" because of what the TCG used. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:41, July 25, 2015 (UTC)
Michion and Raphion?[]
Uh ... why is Michion and Raphion apparently "in each others' places"? Looking back at the history of this page, it appears that they were added to the page in that order and everyone else just seemed went along with it .... In the actual Kabbalah Sephirot, BOTH Michael and Raphael working together represent Tiferet and Hod so in no way was the anime incorrect about its placement.
Lightning Laxus (talk • contribs) 04:07, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
Order of Anime vs. TF6 vs. OCG/TCG effects[]
Now that we've got multiple cases where all three of anime, Tag Force 6, and OCG/TCG effects differ in subtle ways, here's a suggestion: When describing the unique effect(s) of each Timelord, can we reorder them into chronological order (anime, then TF6, then OCG/TCG)? There are some cases where parts of the OCG/TCG effect resemble the anime effect more strongly than the TF6 effect, and it becomes very awkward to have to mention the OCG/TCG effect first, then the TF6 effect (which may "take away" something from the OCG/TCG effect, except it can't because it came earlier), and finally the anime effect (which came before the others, inspired them first, and may "put back" something that the TF6 effect "took away", except it can't because it came earlier).
Specific examples, mildly exaggerated:
- "Zaphion" shuffles back all S/Ts and its extra effect is to draw 1. But wait, in TF6 it doesn't have this extra draw effect. But wait, originally, in the anime it was draw 5 no matter how it left the field.
- "Kamion" spins a card, burns, and can't be responded to. But wait, in TF6 it's a monster instead of a card and it could be responded to. But wait, originally, in the anime it was all monsters instead of 1 monster, and it burned for each one (and it could be responded to).
Compared to these:
- "Zaphion" shuffles back all S/Ts and its extra effect is to draw 5. In TF6, this extra draw effect was removed. In the OCG/TCG, it was put back but nerfed to draw 1 on hitting the Graveyard only.
- "Kamion" spins all monsters and burns for each. In TF6, it was nerfed to spinning 1 monster and burning. In the OCG/TCG, it can spin any card (not just a monster) and burn, and the effect also can't be responded to.
The chronological explanation (describing the 'history of changes to the effect') flows and reads much nicer than the current order. Any thoughts? If this post is unopposed for 24 hours I'll go ahead and make the changes to the article. Blueapple128 (talk • contribs) 01:42, April 19, 2017 (UTC)
- Done. Blueapple128 (talk • contribs) 13:36, April 20, 2017 (UTC)
Time Maiden Missing[]
https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Time_Maiden It's a support card for time lords, but dunno how to exactly add it to the current format in the page.
- It's in the support section. Pitifulheartles (talk • contribs) 18:03, 2 March 2022 (UTC)