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This card is not a Pendulum Monster[]
Guys, no, this card and "Passing Rider" are not Pendulum Monsters. Manga just works like that, it doesn't function exactly like OCG rulings. Solid arguments to explain why these cards aren't Pendulums:
- They went from the field to the Graveyard when used as Synchro Materials, and were Summoned from the Graveyard with "Synchro Panic".
- When Yugo activates "Pendulum Transfer", he says that Ren's not the only one who can change the properties of his monsters (referring to how Ren's monsters can treat themselves tuners). This means that his monsters are regular monsters, and his Spell Card allows him to treat them as Pendulums.
- Yugo explained that he has /one/ card which has evolved with Yuya - Clearwing. The rest of Yugo's deck is normal, only Clearwing was influenced by Yuya's powers. "Pendulum Transfer" is another influence of Yuya's powers, which apparently can make anyone magically use Pendulum, aka, the Summoning method originally used only by him and him alone.
- And, once more. This is manga. The magical universe where you can destroy cards in the Graveyard or activate effects after your LP becomes zero. "Pendulum Transfer" allows one to treat regular monsters as Pendulum Monsters. Period. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 19:46, August 22, 2016 (UTC)
- Honestly, I really think that just setting it as Pendulum would be the best case, until we get can get a more clear answer, because the arguments I see for this card and "Passing Rider" not being Pendulums aren't 100% solid
- It is a very real possibility that both of these monsters have an effect that says something along the lines of "If this card is used as a material for a Synchro Summon, send it to the graveyard instead of sending it to the Extra Deck", just like how just like how it is a very real possibility that ""Pendulum Transfer" allows one to treat regular monsters as Pendulum Monsters" is a very real possibility. The Manga has introduced cards that change how inherit mechanics of monsters work in the past. For example, there is a card that lets you use counters as Xyz Materials and there is a card that can be Xyz summoned by treating cards equipped to a monster as Xyz Materials.
- By change the properties he could have just meant that he was putting the two monsters in his Pendulum Zones, since the Pendulum Zone is an entirely different place on the field than the monster card zone. Yugo also could have meant that his was changing his cards from Monster Cards to Spell Cards. Keep in mind that changing a card property could mean anything from a type change to completely changing what kind of card it is, it can be extremely vague.
- This one honestly sounds like a plothole in the manga. If Yugo has only one card that has evolved with Yuya, then "Clearwing" would be the only card that incorporates the Pendulum Mechanic, but considering he has "Pendulum Transfer", this really isn't the case, because he now has two cards that incorporate the Pendulum Mechanic.
AD2011 (talk • contribs) 21:01, August 22, 2016 (UTC)
Not only does he use two new Pendulum Monsters later, even Yuri uses the Pendulum Monster Predaplant Spider Orchid. So I am more inclined to believe this is just a small plot hole. ☺ Energy X ☻ 16:06, February 27, 2018 (UTC)