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NOTE: all previous discussions were kept below. What follows is an attempt to explain the effects of Orichalcos Shunoros as seen during the Yu-Gi-Oh! second series anime:

Does "Orichalcos Kyutora" Negate Effect Damage?

(Mpanty 23:45, 22 August 2009 (UTC))

Reasons for NO:

(Possible) Reasons for YES:

Does "Orichalcos Shunoros" have 0 DEF?

(Mpanty 23:45, 22 August 2009 (UTC))

Most likely, YES.

  • In the original Japanese anime of Episode 180, Dartz says (verbatim): "Its attack strength will be determined by the damage absorbed by Orichalcos Kyutora. So, the attack strength of Orichalcos Shunoros is..." (scene cuts to LP counter displaying 20000). In the English Dub, the scene where Dartz says these words is deleted and the episode cuts to the LP counter directly (without offering any explanation).
  • The real-life version of "Orichalcos Shunoros" has ? ATK / 0 DEF stats. Even though the special abilities of the card are radically different, is very likely the ATK/DEF values were modeled on the anime version. Hence a DEF value of zero (0).

How is "Orichalcos Shunoros's" ATK affected by "Orichalcos Dexia" and "Orichalcos Aristeros"?

(Mpanty 23:45, 22 August 2009 (UTC))

In abstract terms, Dexia and Aristeros are Shunoros's arms, and thus "draw their power" from the main body.

In practical terms, whenever Dexia and Aristeros battle a monster their ATK or DEF increases by that monster's ATK or DEF power (depending who is attacking and who is defending) + an extra 300 points. The ATK or DEF Dexia or Aristeros gain (including the 300 extra points), comes straight out of Shunoros's ATK:

How is "Orichalcos Shunoros's" ATK affected when it battles a monster?

(Mpanty 23:45, 22 August 2009 (UTC))

If "Orichalcos Shunoros" battles a monster, after Damage Calculation the ATK of "Orichalcos Shunoros" decreases by an amount equal to that monster's ATK.


Previous Discussions

Attack Depletion when Shunoros Battles?

I dont recall it losing attack points when it was struck..besides if a monster attacked it the attacking monster's controller would lose the rest of their lifepoints unless they had like 40,000 lifepoints left.

  • I've watched this ep recently. When Shu or one of its arms battles, Shu loses ATK (from its 20,000) equal to the ATK of the monster that was battled with. (Yes, I know that I'm ending my sentence with a preposition. Shame on me -=^-^=-) If Shu attacked, the opponent would take leftover damage, but not if Shu was attacked. Sabre Knight 01:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Orichalcos Kyutora and Effect Damage

Since someone just undid my last edit I figured I'd explain it. Orichalcos Kyutora does not negate Effect Damage as seen when Kaiba used Ring of Destruction to destroy Mirror Knight Calling Dartz still took 500 damage even through Orichalcos Kyutora was on his side of the field. Therefor I don't see why Orichalcos Shunoros's effect should say "This card's original ATK and DEF are equal to the total amount of Battle Damage and Effect Damage negated by Orichalcos Kyutora." because Orichalcos Kyutora can't negate Effect Damage.-- 17:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


How Can You Summon This guy in TCG/OCG Orichalcos Kyutora Hasnt Been Released!

Massive effect modification my friend
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