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Um, I hate to be that guy, but don't you think we ought to wait and see just what this is before we call it C65? It could be the regular 65, C96, or a combination of the two through one's own effect. --Rocket.knight.777 (talkcontribs) 16:17, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Interesting question, but one thing, "Number" cannot merge with one another because that sounds like they will create their # or add their own #s. How its the Chaos version of "Number 65: Judge Buster the Cutting Djinn"? Look at his scythe-blade arms, he does not have a mouth like Number 65, he is one-winged like Number 65, he is a Chaos Number, because he has red Barian energy in its chest or sides of it. So he is Summoned through Rank-Up. He cannot be randomly regular Number 65, because that one has "65" on his chest unlike this card.
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--Shadowdarkone1 (talkcontribs) 16:27, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

If they were fused it might add up the Numbers, but if 65 or C96 had an effect that would equip one to the other, that's a different kettle of fish. Still you might be right, but I'm had enough trouble with anons and admins to suspect someone might put this up for deletion as speculation. --Rocket.knight.777 (talkcontribs) 16:33, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

  • This more likely a chaos form of Number 65. If this was a fused number card, shouldn't they have done this possibility earlier in the shoe? Jekogan.

I'm not saying it's a fusion. I'm saying maybe one or the other is equipped to one or the other. --Rocket.knight.777 (talkcontribs) 16:40, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

I did not see this card looks like equipped to either Number 96 or Number C96. He does not looks like equipped or equipped to a card.--Shadowdarkone1 (talkcontribs) 17:16, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

also, i dont think the creator of the show would give a legendary number (which is what number 65 is) a chaos form, thats just to over powering. SuperlmnoSuperlmno (talkcontribs) 17:38, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

As far as we know at the momsnet C96 has a similar eff to No.8 but targets the grave as, from the preview it does appear as if 65 is destroyed before RUM is played.

I don't think this page should've been made yet TBH. Photonkrios99 (talkcontribs) 18:32, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

That's what I said. How do we know C96's effect is as you say, if I may ask? --Rocket.knight.777 (talkcontribs) 18:37, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

  • Thats my point we don't know what C96 eff is so there is a posibillity that this monster is actually a morphed version of him which, I feel is more likely. Photonkrios99 (talkcontribs) 18:43, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

plus its number should have appeared on the Right side of the chest just like on its original counterpart, but it didnt. therefore, this card cant be a chaos number. superlmnoSuperlmno (talkcontribs) 19:34, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

That's a bit of a fallacy. Many of the Chaos Numbers have had their Numbers appear in different spots from their counterparts. Like Number 105: Burning Knuckler - Cestus the Meteor and Number C105: Burning Knuckler - Caestus the Comet. --Rocket.knight.777 (talkcontribs) 19:37, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
You got a point. Utopia and Utopia have different spots for their #s.--Shadowdarkone1 (talkcontribs) 21:06, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

"Number C96: Dark Storm" has nothing to do with this card. This card and that card are two different cards.--Shadowdarkone1 (talkcontribs) 21:15, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

are you sure its not an xzy monster?[]

are your sure that monster is not an chaos xzy (107Number (talkcontribs) 17:58, April 28, 2013 (UTC))

CX might not appear again.--Shadowdarkone1 (talkcontribs) 20:55, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Shouldn't be deleted[]

This is definitely a Chaos Number summoned through Rank-Up Magic. It shouldn't be deleted.--Computer Bug (talkcontribs) 01:17, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Another proof is that the episode which this card is appearing in named "Realm of Chaos". Makes sense.--Shadowdarkone1 (talkcontribs) 01:32, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
So as side from your own assumptions and an episode title which could, and most likely is refering to C96, do either of you have from that this is 100% guaranteed to appear in the next episode. If no then it should be deleted. Photonkrios99 (talkcontribs) 06:16, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
I am telling what I have seen and found so far. There is evidence and should be no arguing about something is true or not when we see it by are eyes.--Shadowdarkone1 (talkcontribs) 21:08, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
Why is it so difficult for you people to wait a week or two for confirmation? It's always the same people, too.--YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 21:11, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
Look, all I know is, it's another form of Number 65, it has the exact flowing energy on it's chest that all Chaos Xyz and Chaos Numbers that are summoned with Barian's Force have, and it appears in the next episode alongside Number C96. Oh btw, this is Computer Bug--68.116.188.70 (talk) 00:12, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
The problem is how you know that this is C65. C96 wasn't shown; it could very well be this card. 50.117.80.77 (talk) 00:21, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

of course number c96 is coming out, dark mist him self only evolved in the preview because is number did. plus, in the preview, we can see number 96 being ranked up the same way other cards monsters in the anime where ranked up, with a pink aura.Superlmno (talkcontribs) 02:14, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

Watch the preview, 65 appears on this monster, plus it looks like it, PLUS it looks nothing like C96's silhouette.--68.116.188.70 (talk) 23:23, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
Firstly its not like it would be the first time that a Number has looked different, exapmles 8 and 69 both chaged shape at least twice, secondly if you can give a screen shot of the 65 on this monster then feel free as I cant see it. As stated in on of the above sections it could be C96's eff morphing him to look similar to 65, alternatively 65 could have an equip eff like 44, both theories of which have as much proof as the 'C65' idea. Photonkrios99 (talkcontribs) 06:23, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
Once again, you'll all know in 3 days. Stop whining.--YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 07:07, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
Look, I told everyone and it is the truth when you see it.--Shadowdarkone1 (talkcontribs) 14:47, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

this monster is not even a number, because it doesn't have a number symbol on it. just look at it, will you. 71.177.74.249 (talk) 01:00, May 7, 2013 (UTC)user

If you look carefully, its Number is on the right side of its waist. ChaosGallade (talkcontribs) 01:22, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

name[]

It's not a Djinn monster. Its jpname is enough proof - no 魔人 Majin. It's just 魔王. 135.0.164.25 (talk) 01:25, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Correct. Guys, please read this article before assuming something is part of an archetype. The translation of the Japanese name is 100% irrelevant. Its the actual Japanese text that matters. This has both "Devil" and "Demon" in its translated name. It is neither a "Djinn" or an "Archfiend" though. That having been said, I'm looking around for alternatives to use for "Devil" and "Demon" to limit confusion. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 01:36, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Name suggestion[]

Ok, per the above, I've looked into a new name for this. The suggested name is "Number C65: Judge Doom the Adjudicutting Overlord". "Doom" comes from other cards with the same text using "Doom" for "Devil", while "Overlord" is a new suggestion, but certainly get the intended point across. Any other suggestions? If not, I plan to move this tomorrow to limit confusion. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 03:28, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

What about Doom Judge the Adjudicutting Overlord? It sounds better from a grammatical standpoint.--YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 09:04, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
I agree. That sounds fine. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 17:32, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
Why "Doom Judge"? It sounds better with the "Judge" part first. 177.46.44.30 (talk) 17:36, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
Judge Doom sounds silly. We're trying to connote the meaning of sinisterness, akin to the word "devil." Judge Doom sounds like a Judge named Doom, while Doom Judge sounds like a Judge of Doom. It makes more sense.--YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 18:50, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
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