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Steelswarm a sub-archetype

So does this mean that Steelswarm is a sub-archetype to Verz?? Like Xx-Saber-Xsaber, R-Genex-Genex??? So Verz's supports support Steelswarm but Steelswarm support doesnot support VERZ entirely? can someone confirm this? 33royward (talk • contribs) 05:08, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

A quick check of the kanji reveals that's correct. "Verz" support cards support "Steelswarms", but not the other way around. The fact that the TCG changed "Inverz" to "Steelswarm" complicates things as far as how to word support cards. Hopefully the TCG name for "Verz" will help clear that up when we get to that point. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:20, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

So, should we list every Steelswarm as a Verz member? LastMinute (talk • contribs) 06:53, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yea, i think we should 33royward (talk • contribs) 06:56, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Good work, guys. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 14:19, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

The idea where Steelswarm Roach survives the fight against Vylon and infects the other duel terminal making them "Verz" monsters is sort of weird. how would the infected ones become the main archetype from the sub-archetype. LastMinute (talk • contribs) 06:07, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe Verz became the main archetype after the destruction of Steelswarm monsters (something like the Six Samurais and Legendary Six Samurais) because in the story of "Duel Terminal" the Steelswarms were the first who unleashed the "Infestation" to the world, but when the "Vylon" monsters and the other arquetypes defeated them, the only survivor was Steelswarm Roach. Behind him are blue flames, similar to the color of the "Verz" symbol, and considering that he appeared after when the rest of the "Steelswarms" were exterminated, he spread the "Verz" virus to the other archetypes, and since in theory, the "Steelswarms" no longer exist in the history, the "Verz" became the main archetype (I know, it's complicated, but as I said, they are similar to the "Samurais", in some way).

Dragunity_Slifer (talk • contribs) 16:58, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Major Page Editing

Cmon, this page need a major editing. Its really revealed that Steelswarm is the Sub-archetype to Verz and yet some statement does not make sense like the statement:

"Evidently, this archetype share a close name with "Steelswarm" (Inverz, インヴェルズ), an archetype from the previous Duel Terminal story arc."

cmon, it share a close name because Steelswarm IS a Verz Sub-archetype. also another statement is:

"The strategy of the "Verz" seems to be similar to the "Steelswarm"...."

Duh? They have similar strategy because they are of the same archetype. Somebody, we need a major Page Editing. 33royward (talk • contribs) 00:27, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

They are goddamn NOT same archetype. It's because Steelswarm is INverz, while Verz alone is NOT Swarm. Verz is indeed "Steel" but known as Virus (not you, Seto, so shut up about money) that can corrupt the monsters and turned them against the rivals. --FredCat 00:37, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Its because Steelswarm IS Verz but Verz is not Steelswarm. Steelswarm is a sub-archetype. 33royward (talk • contribs) 00:49, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

That therefore straight your previous respond, you said "similar to the Steelswarm"... But they do not have similar strategy, Steelswarm lacked Xyz while Verz does. --FredCat 00:51, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, i just want to say that I said that first statement, "Evidently, this archetype share a close name with "Steelswarm" (Inverz, インヴェルズ), an archetype from the previous Duel Terminal story arc.", you said was my work. Yeah, i know it sounds weird, but i wasn't so sure at first, until now that is. So, you can change that if you want. just letting you guys know. LastMinute (talk • contribs) 01:01, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Steel?

Any source for this? We should not speculate on what the English name will be. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:33, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

• Well i think that it should be called Steel because you got "Inverz" which is "Insect Verz". I'm pretty sure they switched the two to make "Verz Insect" hence getting the name "Steelswarm" ("Verz" = "Steel" and "Insect" = "Swarm"). Youngsevon (talk • contribs) 22:37, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Then you're speculating. For one, that would create confusion with other "Steel" cards. "Steel Ogre Grotto 1", and "Steel Fan Fighter", for example. Those are clearly not "Verz" cards. You cannot just assume that's what they'll change it to. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:39, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Verz = Evilswarm

Scanned an import DT13 Verz Kaitos, and the english machine displayed his name as Evilswarm Keytos.

Photos later tonight. I don't have any more Verz imports to scan in for other names, though. —This unsigned comment was made by Piconoe (talk • contribs) 23:41, April 14, 2012

http://i.imgur.com/kd8sb.jpg

changing page names now

Piconoe (talk • contribs) 00:39, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hi! I'm YRPOtaku169! 03:24, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
Are we sure this is really the translated name?
Because this seems rather...lazy...

Yeah, is that what DT card images look like? >_> --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 03:25, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

• If this is true, I guess we're going to have a lot of erratas for cards that support both swarms. Just seems so sloppy to me...--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 03:50, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Well, actually, I don't think erratas would be needed if this was real. Inverz support cards don't support Verz cards, so the future cards could just say "Steelswarm" and "Evilswarm", and the older cards could remain the same. But that said, this image looks fake to me. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 03:55, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

You think maybe cards like that will just say "Swarm Monsters"? Just a random thought since we don't even know if this is real yet. --> Summoned Skull 2: Electric Boogaloo 04:01, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

That would conflict with "Swarm of Scarabs" and "Swarm of Locusts". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:11, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Wouldn't they do it like with Frog the Jam? Bah, it was just a thought either way. --> Summoned Skull 2: Electric Boogaloo 04:54, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Whatever the case, one image in crappy quality with no backup source of any kind is by no means given fact. Until Shriek or another credible source says otherwise, it's staying Verz. The Pope 04:20, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 04:21, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

K if you guys are going to be faggots about it, I'll record a video of it tomorrow. There doesn't need to be a backup source, Konami makes the damn machines. If you're too ignorant to know what an Action Duel X screenshot looks like you don't really have any business making judgments on this.

Changing back to Evilswarm because it's as real as the March 2012 banlist.

We're not going to wait 5 months for Duel Terminal 7a to come out in English because we don't need to. It's right here, the card reads just fine in current machines.

Piconoe (talk • contribs) 04:28, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Are you done with your ignorant rant? Back to Verz until you show us this "proof". --> Summoned Skull 2: Electric Boogaloo 04:56, April 15, 2012 (UTC)