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:And no, "Earthbound Immortals" wouldn't be archrelated. Archrelated is for cards that support individual members of the archetype. i.e. everything that is listed in archsupport. Archsupport is for cards that support the archetype as a whole. -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] ([[User talk:Deltaneos|talk]]) 02:08, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 
:And no, "Earthbound Immortals" wouldn't be archrelated. Archrelated is for cards that support individual members of the archetype. i.e. everything that is listed in archsupport. Archsupport is for cards that support the archetype as a whole. -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] ([[User talk:Deltaneos|talk]]) 02:08, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
   
:What makes this an archetype is the fact that it's very self-supporting. Priest of the Sun supports Supay and Azcatl; Supay supports Priest of the Sun; Azcatl supports level 5 monsters in general which indicates that it can be used with Priest of the Sun; Apocatequil supports Priest of the Sun and tuners; Inti and Quilla need Azcatl and Supay respectively for their summon and support each other; and Call of the Death God supports Azcatl and Supay. Not to mention the Incan-ness of their names. The only one that doesn't support the archetype proper is Stone Statue of the Lamenting God, and that might go in the related category because it is related to Incan civilization and religion, and was used by Rex. Certainly no one seems to be complaining about Power Tool Dragon being in the Five Dragons related category. [[User:Runer5h|Runer5h]] 03:47, October 26, 2009 (UTC)Runer5h
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:What makes this an archetype is the fact that it's very self-supporting. Oracle of the Sun supports Supay and Fire Ant Ascator; Supay supports Oracle of the Sun; Fire Ant Ascator supports level 5 monsters in general which indicates that it can be used with Oracle of the Sun; Apocatequil supports Oracle of the Sun and tuners; Inti and Quilla need Fire Ant Ascator and Supay respectively for their summon and support each other; and Call of the Reaper supports Fire Ant Ascator and Supay. Not to mention the Incan-ness of their names. The only one that doesn't support the archetype proper is Weeping Idol, and that might go in the related category because it is related to Incan civilization and religion, and was used by Rex. Certainly no one seems to be complaining about Power Tool Dragon being in the Five Dragons related category. [[User:Runer5h|Runer5h]] 03:47, October 26, 2009 (UTC)Runer5h
   
 
::I also thought that this was delete-worthy. Nothing makes this an archetype, and the argument of self-supporting, sorry Runer, but a mix of cards that have no ties that work well together, doesn't make an archetype. That would make lots of decks archetype-esque. Nothing but Incan-esque names tie them together, which can't make an archetype, as any card with a Roman name could be a Roman-archetype. Specific names make an archetype. [[User:Messengerofthedark|DemonGodAsura]] 04:45, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 
::I also thought that this was delete-worthy. Nothing makes this an archetype, and the argument of self-supporting, sorry Runer, but a mix of cards that have no ties that work well together, doesn't make an archetype. That would make lots of decks archetype-esque. Nothing but Incan-esque names tie them together, which can't make an archetype, as any card with a Roman name could be a Roman-archetype. Specific names make an archetype. [[User:Messengerofthedark|DemonGodAsura]] 04:45, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
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Where's your evidence that they were Aztec in origin? Because what you gave isn't convincing at all. [[User:Runer5h|Runer5h]] 20:44, March 2, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h
 
Where's your evidence that they were Aztec in origin? Because what you gave isn't convincing at all. [[User:Runer5h|Runer5h]] 20:44, March 2, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h
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uh i use a deck on these guys. i feel that anything that catigorizes as a group of specific monsters is an archtype. ex: dark world cards have monsters without dark world in there name. like mad lobster.
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plus its a brand new group so of course there is not alot of Inca cards now but i can expect more pretty soon.
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== Recommended Cards ==
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I'm Sorry but the recommended cards list is horrible! there are no Inca's even on the list, could this please be fixed as soon as possible. Thank you
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Latest revision as of 11:29, 7 September 2010

Related

Good news, everybody! I've just had the idea to include the Earthbound Immortals, or at least Wiraqocha Rasca, as part of the 'related' category!

Think about it; the EIs are representative of Incan gods and they technically are thus related to Inca culture, and thus I think they should be in the related category. Or at least Wiraqocha, which Rex actually uses. What do you say? Runer5h 01:56, October 26, 2009 (UTC)Runer5h

What exactly makes this an archetype?
And no, "Earthbound Immortals" wouldn't be archrelated. Archrelated is for cards that support individual members of the archetype. i.e. everything that is listed in archsupport. Archsupport is for cards that support the archetype as a whole. -- Deltaneos (talk) 02:08, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
What makes this an archetype is the fact that it's very self-supporting. Oracle of the Sun supports Supay and Fire Ant Ascator; Supay supports Oracle of the Sun; Fire Ant Ascator supports level 5 monsters in general which indicates that it can be used with Oracle of the Sun; Apocatequil supports Oracle of the Sun and tuners; Inti and Quilla need Fire Ant Ascator and Supay respectively for their summon and support each other; and Call of the Reaper supports Fire Ant Ascator and Supay. Not to mention the Incan-ness of their names. The only one that doesn't support the archetype proper is Weeping Idol, and that might go in the related category because it is related to Incan civilization and religion, and was used by Rex. Certainly no one seems to be complaining about Power Tool Dragon being in the Five Dragons related category. Runer5h 03:47, October 26, 2009 (UTC)Runer5h
I also thought that this was delete-worthy. Nothing makes this an archetype, and the argument of self-supporting, sorry Runer, but a mix of cards that have no ties that work well together, doesn't make an archetype. That would make lots of decks archetype-esque. Nothing but Incan-esque names tie them together, which can't make an archetype, as any card with a Roman name could be a Roman-archetype. Specific names make an archetype. DemonGodAsura 04:45, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
No offense taken. But my point is that there are ties that work well together. The archetype is clearly focused on using and reusing its members thanks to the effects of each other, and on bringing out Sun Dragon Inti and Moonlight Dragon Quilla/other synchros. In addition, the effects of all of the monsters activate when they are destroyed somehow, or in the case of Supay sent to the graveyard by a card effect. (Not counting Stone Statue.) Runer5h 19:38, October 26, 2009 (UTC)Runer5h

"Ancient Forest" could work in the recommended Deck list.

If someone's looking to create an Inca Deck, I would recommend putting "Ancient Forest" on the "Recommended Cards" list, as after "Sun Dragon Inti" attacks, it will destroy itself and summon "Moonlight Dragon Quilla", and vice versa.

--1exodiafan1 13:20, December 14, 2009 (UTC)1exodiafan1

Sounds pretty good. You could also use it with the effects of Apocatequil, and to a lesser extent Oracle of the Sun and even Supay. Runer5h 20:29, December 14, 2009 (UTC)Runer5h


I just wanted to state that the cards arent really incaish to say their aztecs, the aztecs believed in the sun god and worshiped a serpent god caled quetzatcoal represented my the moon and sun dragon the oracle of the sun being the priest

Actually, the cards are DIRECTLY based off of Incan deities.

  • Moon Dragon Quilla is based off of Mama Quilla, goddess of the moon.
  • Sun Dragon Inti is based off of Inti, the Incan sun god.
  • Apocatequil, or Catequil, is the Incan god of lightning (hence the type).
  • Supay is the god of death in the Incan religion, and he is represented as having horns.
  • Weeping Idol is based off of Virachoca - he has "the sun for a crown, with thunderbolts in his hands, and tears descending from his eyes as rain".

Where's your evidence that they were Aztec in origin? Because what you gave isn't convincing at all. Runer5h 20:44, March 2, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h

uh i use a deck on these guys. i feel that anything that catigorizes as a group of specific monsters is an archtype. ex: dark world cards have monsters without dark world in there name. like mad lobster.

plus its a brand new group so of course there is not alot of Inca cards now but i can expect more pretty soon.

Recommended Cards

I'm Sorry but the recommended cards list is horrible! there are no Inca's even on the list, could this please be fixed as soon as possible. Thank you

KrillyPOP