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Dub Name

Where is "Barrier World" coming from? The dub has not gotten to that episode yet. They're only on episode 17. Balian World is first mentioned in episode 24. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 14:51, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Should this be "Balian World" with 1 L's? This article was abandoned and I can't redirecting it due to [[Talk:Balian World|that article]] being existed. --FredCat 15:02, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

I think that the name of the barian world comes from the name of tron because the real name of tron is byron so byron and barian have like the same pronunciaton--Yugx5dszexal (talkcontribs) 18:05, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Antagonists?

Should the Barian World be consider antagonists because they are the one's ordering Dr. Tron to destroy the Astral World. —This unsigned comment was made by 184.33.94.128 (talkcontribs) 06:46, July 13, 2012‎

It's a parallel dimension not a character(s). Some of its inhabitants may be antagonists. --The Goblin 15:25, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Naming

Why cannot we just assume this dimension is called "Barian World" as well in Japanese version? It makes more sense with Barrier Light. Final Cannon Dyskusja 08:45, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Because it clearly says ヴァリアン (Varian).--YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 08:57, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
To be fair, that name has never been used in a preview, i.e. we've never seen it written officially, though dialogue indicates that's how it would be spelled. Barrier Light is probably also wrong, and should be something like "Varialight". I'll look into it. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 12:13, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
Looking around a bit, it's odd. Someone mentioned seeing it written differently in a Japanese subtitle (I mean an actual closed captioning on Japanese TV) over at Neo Ark Cradle. If written the way it was, it would be "Barian". Waiting for a response from the poster now. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 12:27, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
Apparently, this is what happened: Because the name was never shown on-screen at any point, Japanese fans made an assumption that it was "Valian", which was then picked up by English fans via translators. This shows that its actually always meant to have been Barian. So yeah. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 12:14, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

About Trivia

Why does it say that all residents currently known have been named after a star of the constellation, when we have Vector. Neither of the rest of the stars is connected to the name. --FruityMan99 (talkcontribs) 17:05, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

It isn't with the English pronunciation, but it is with the Japanese one, with the star "Phecda": "Vector" is pronounced "Bekutā" and "Phecda", "Fekuda" (or something like that). LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 02:30, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Barian/Varian Page Renaming

Since there appears to be an edit war going on in the article, I'll start this here. In today's episode (89), it was shown that Varian is the correct spelling, not Barian as initially thought. However, in spite of this, the dub seems to suggest that Barian is the term used there. Everyone's views on this, and how page renaming should be dealt with, if needed? --~Mana~ (Talk) 23:28, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Dub has a long ways to go before they will discuss the name "Barian". It should be called Varian in the meantime, because the badge Rei displays is official proof. --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 23:30, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
How does the dub suggest that "Barian" is the term? -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:35, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
There was a Character that named "Varian" while possessing Dr. Faker, so that's how we thinking that it was "Varian" species instead of "Barian". --iFredCat 23:48, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
The term "Barain" came from episode 23 in the dub, when Kite suggest to use the "Baria Crystal" on the "Emperor's Key", to which Orbital 7 said that this rare substance came from "Barian World" and it was his power source. Also, in episode 73, Alit and Gilag hang out at the BARian. WinterNightmare (talkcontribs) 23:59, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
All those what Winter said, so therefore what Rei used must be "fake ID" or something. --iFredCat 00:02, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
A bit of background - The way it is pronounced in Japanese could easily mean "Barian" or "Varian". Initially, NeoArkadia translated it as "Varian". The term was never spelled on-screen, at all and Japanese fans began spelling it as if it was "Varian". When ZEXAL II first started being advertised, Gilag's blurb said he was a "messenger of the Barian World". This is the first time that term was ever officially spelled, anywhere. Now the series itself has contradicted this. "Varian" does make more sense for now, given "Utopia Ray V". The dub, on the other hand, used "Barian" (which, once again, was thought to be correct for quite a while). So we probably should retain the use of "Barian" since the dub does so and mention the discrepancy specifically in every related article as clarification. Or we could simply mention both "Varian" and "Barian" and clarify that official sources have used both. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 00:37, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
Of course, it's just like L and R in japan sound, as the twin. --iFredCat 01:06, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
I think it's safe to say Konami will ultimately go with "Varian," as the "V" in both "Utopia Ray V" and "V Salamander" (as well as the other elementals) is clearly meant to stand for it - worth noting that in episode 96, Vector refers to the "Varian cards" that he gave Yuma, not the "V cards." It's not the first time the anime and game have disagreed, and I wouldn't be surprised if they end up using "Varian" in future dub episodes without any explanation for the discrepancy. The US release of Lord of the Tachyon Galaxy can't come soon enough...--Ryusui (talkcontribs) 02:03, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
Well, according to Lord of the Tachyon Galaxy, the Asian English name is Barian. WinterNightmare (talkcontribs) 02:12, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
I looked over that page maybe five times before I spotted the incriminating sentence. But then again, the page also says "Ryoga," and it doesn't have official English names for the Mecha Phantom Beasts or the elemental dragons. Maybe there's hope after all? ^_^;--Ryusui (talkcontribs) 02:18, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
No, there's Utopia. =P --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 02:19, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Weird Question

With ZEXAL now finished and the Barian Emperors now revived in their human forms, does this mean they've become full fledged human again or are they still able to become Barians? If they are humans, this means that the Barian World is dead empty as Don Thousand is gone. --ReshiramArc1255 (talkcontribs) 05:24, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

Eliphas says Astral used the code to re-merge the worlds. Which is good because the Barians get to live again, but bad because it means Chaos still exists and can threaten things, which is where everyone goes at the end of the episode. Given that they were floating around with magic powers, I'd say they retain their Barian abilities, though whether they can Battlemorph is up for debate. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 17:29, March 24, 2014 (UTC)
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