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please open this article i would like to change the templates --Hanmac

One question. It says that you need "1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Spellcaster-Type monsters". Does this mean the Tuner monster has to be a Spellcaster too? RedDrgn 19:53, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


Tin set

In what Tin set can I find this card? I have the assault mode but don't have the Synchro Arcanite Magician card.

Gender reckless the French Name...

One unregistered user said that this card's French Name proved that spellcaster is male, how can we confirmed that? And sorry, it's old habit of mine, if you want me to question that in Forum, just shoot me and move on... --FredCat100 (talkcontribs) 21:59, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think what they were saying is that in French there are two words for "magician"; "magicien" and "magicienne". The first one is used for male magicians and the second is used for female magicians. Since the male word is used in the name, they're inferring that the card is male. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:56, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
Alright... then why is that monster have couple of feminine traits; hourglass hip and smooth chin, if that's male name? As for all spellcasters (though male or female) were calling wizards in some movies. --FredCat His litterFR 16:47, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ok look the white cloak gives a false impression. Assault mode's legs are visible and come from the waist. No Hips.Arcane Kuriboh (talkcontribs) 04:46, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Personaly, I'm glad that it is a male. Its one of my favorite card. I just wish there was a way to confirm this...--Scourge The Hedgehog (talkcontribs) 02:09, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

I think Arcanite is a male, and I'm kind of annoyed that /Assault Mode version is placed under the female tag. When you look to female cards you can clearly see that the artists focus on hands (such as Silent Magician and St. Joan whose genders was a topic of debate back in the day) are drawn in a very feminine fashion to avoid people thinking they were male. What do you guys think? 95.8.162.254 (talk) 17:56, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Knight Archetype?

I'm seeing the Arcanite family listed under the Knight archetype. Surely that can't be the case.--Azul120 (talkcontribs) 04:38, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

"ナイト" = Knight, Night or Nite. There is no difference in the Japanese. Unintended or not, they are members. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 14:59, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Male or Female?

There's an user claiming Arcanite is male. Does anyone have an evidence it's either male or female? Personally, I'd say it's female, given the chest size and the facial expression. Any thoughts? You can check all pictures of it here and at the cards mentioned at its trivia page.. Becasita Pendulum (talkcontribs) 22:23, May 23, 2016 (UTC) —Last edited at 22:30, May 23, 2016 (UTC).

There's nothing definitive about it. It's not uncommon for guys to have small frames, and their clothing here doesn't indicate anything. Female monsters have had the sole name of "Magician" before (as opposed to "Magician Girl"), such as "Nobledragon Magician". Just remove the female tag, and refer to them in the trivia page as "it" or "they." --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 22:35, May 23, 2016 (UTC)
Fair enough. I just thought there was some evidence about it, due to this edit. Becasita Pendulum (talkcontribs) 22:38, May 23, 2016 (UTC)

Discussion part 2

Looks like we have to restart the discussion. I guess there are some reasons for this monster being female, considering the foreign translations sounding it feminine.

Here's an example: P.M. Captor. I thought P.M. was for Pendulum Monster, but it is actually in fact the first and the last letter of the word Pendulum, a trait carried also onto other languages. I am drawing the parallel here to say that there's some evidence that this is a female, too. Energy X 17:56, January 19, 2020 (UTC)

The foreign translation makes it sound male, not female (Magicien is male, Magicienne is female) Willlux (talkcontribs) 17:57, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
OK. But how do you explain that Supreme Arcanite Magician is classified as female, too? That creates an inconsistency. Energy X 18:05, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
From what I can see, the card name in french is same as the non-assault mode, "Magicien des Arcanes/Mode Assaut" - Magicien i.e. the male, not Magicienne, the female. Either way, my suggestion would be to leave the gender tag off of the card without solid proof of it having a definitive gender, what do you think? Willlux (talkcontribs) 18:10, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
Both cards are male in German as well. So unless the Japanese is female I don't know why they would be classified as such. So if there has to be a gender tag, it should be male. Orifire (talkcontribs) 18:26, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
If you look at Assault Overload, Arcanite is entirely effeminate. Pitifulheartles (talkcontribs) 19:11, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
Male characters can often come across as effiminate/gender neutral in anime, if you look at the card art though you can see it's body shape is more male, i.e., broad shoulders & no hips. If the art clearly showed wide hips or visible cleavage then I'd be with you but I just don't see how you can interpret the art as clearly female. As I've said before perhaps the best option is just to leave the gender tag off altogether as a compromise? Willlux (talkcontribs) 19:19, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
Show me ONE male human yugioh card that looks female. Also, are you going to tell me Akashic Magician is a male because its french name is Magicien Akashique and not Magicienne Akashique? Pitifulheartles (talkcontribs) 19:22, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
Also look at the shadowing on Arcanite's chest in Synchro Transcend. Pitifulheartles (talkcontribs) 19:30, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
That's a fair point, but I think we can both agree that Akashic Magician is very clearly female and not androgynous in any way, unlike Arcanite. In terms of cards that are of unclear gender, Yubel would be the obvious one, but you could take any "pretty boy" card, Dharc the Dark Charmer for example. I think Arcanite is in the same category as Crowler, a male who dresses in an over-the-top somewhat effeminite way, or with a style similar to the old hair metal bands from the 80's, just like Dark Paladin, Magician of Black Chaos etc. In terms of the chest in the Synchro Transcend art work, remember it has armor on underneath as you can see in Assault Overload it sticks out a bit. Willlux (talkcontribs) 19:36, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
It's wearing the Assault Mode armor underneath its robes. And you can clearly see the Assault Mode chest piece does not match the shape of the shadow in Tanscend. Also Yubel is 100% female. Pitifulheartles (talkcontribs) 19:40, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
The armor is the same, in Assault mode he takes off his robe and wears it as a cape. And Yubel is literally half male half female lol Willlux (talkcontribs) 19:41, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
Guess you've never watched the show. Yubel was in love with the Supreme King, and voluntarily became a Duel Monster Spirit to watch over him. And Look at the damn contours of her Assault Armor and then look at the chest on Transcend. They're two different things. The chest piece is probably placed on after taking the robes off. Pitifulheartles (talkcontribs) 19:45, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
I stopped watching after the original series. If you look at Yubel one half of its body is male, the other half female. You can literally see Arcanite Assault Mode's armor underneath the robe on Arcanite, you can even see the little indentation the gem on it's hat and chest makes in the cloth. Just put the artworks next to each other. Willlux (talkcontribs) 19:49, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
You really are seeing things through a filtered lens. Pitifulheartles (talkcontribs) 19:53, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
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