Forum:Unban Sinister Serpent?

Ok, this card has been banned for several years now. But is there any chance this card could come back to 1 in the future? I mean, all Sinister Serpent does is return to your hand during your Standby Phase and while it would be good discard or defender fodder, most effects which discard cards from your hand (Snipe Hunter, Gungnir, ect) activate in your Main Phase, not Standby, and not many people run Divine Wrath, Magic Jammer, Lightning Vortex, Dark Core, or Phoenix Wing Wind Blast, ect anyways. On top of all that, destruction by card effects is a lot more common today than by battle. I don't think the little guy would be that harmful if he came back to 1 today. Anyone second this? 24.12.202.163 (talk) 18:25, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Prior to the release of the "Mermail" archetype, I was a strong advocate for this monster to coming back. But at the moment, it makes "Mermail" Deck too powerful. Once limits have been put on some of the cards in that Deck to slow it down, I think SS might be able to come back. But until then, I don't see it coming back. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 18:31, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Are you sure it makes Mermail/Atlanteans notably more powerful? They have to wait a turn to reuse it and it doesn't get any cool effects when discarded... 108.196.206.15 (talk) 01:58, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Also, "XYZ-Dragon Cannon" can one-shot a card each turn with this card at limited. --iFredCat 02:04, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

I'll be more than happy to run Lightning Vortex @3
Seriously, keep it banned!

70.167.111.220 (talk) 21:04, November 21, 2012 (UTC)AceCloudKicker

Doesn't generate immediate or any advantage in Merlanteans, so pointless to mention them.

Tossing a single copy of this just to use Lightning Vortex, Magic Jammer, ect with no cost is just poor deck building.

And mentioning Xyz Dragon Cannon has no point as a deck running it will never be viable in the meta game.

Card could return to one and have no effect on the game at all.

209.91.107.151 (talk) 07:23, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

The problem with cards like this is that someone always finds a way to use in an obnoxious combo. Then the game degrades into whoever can start their combo first. --Eps01 (talk • contribs) 11:10, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

That's right. This card is a +1 each turn, with no cost. You'll always have a monster to summon, or a card to discard (if you discard it during your Draw/Standby Phase, you'll be able to get it again in that same turn). I don't think it will return. --Missign0 (talk • contribs) 11:38, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

We have much more broken things nowadays than a +1 caused by a weak snakey monster happening every Standby Phase. IMO it could feasibly be Limited without breaking the game, per various reasons listed above. 108.196.206.15 (talk) 21:26, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Let Sinister Serpent on the list of banned cards. Please no excuses like: "...too slow for the current meta..." or like that. Forget it. Konami knows why he is still banned. Think of new combos with new cards instead of old combos with too old cards... --TheGallisMan (talk • contribs) 01:04, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

I haven't seen anybody dream up any new combos with Sinister Serpent, aside from Atlantean/Mermail discard fodder; even there it doesn't seem gamebreaking, they have enough things to discard that have better reasons to be discarded. 108.196.206.15 (talk) 02:54, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

That's why i say it:"Let Sinister Serpent banned." There's no need for it. --TheGallisMan (talk • contribs) 20:27, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

I can understand that, but I personally advocate keeping the banlist as small as possible; it reflects better on the game in general if fewer cards are absolutely needed to be kept banned. 108.196.206.15 (talk) 22:35, November 27, 2012 (UTC)