Forum:The card you HATE MOST

Which one card do you hate the most? Mine is Gladiator Beast Gyzarus....Damn you and your amazing effects....oh, by the way, I have nothing against Glads (anymore).---Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 03:07, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Call of the Haunted on Gyzarus is ownage.
Mine will depend on the situation, if I don't have MST/Dust Tornado, then it's Royal Oppression.
If I don't have MBaaS/Starlight Road, then it's Mirror Force. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:13, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Infernity Launcher.Need I elaborate?115.135.149.168 (talk) 03:22, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Herald of Perfection. between it and a royal decree i might as well scoop Shadowfox337 (talk • contribs) 03:35, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

stardust dragon assault mode so annoying and hard to get rid of >_< i mean yea D.D. crow works but i dont have one D: and i run solemn but comeon its 1 out of 40 cards the chances of me havin it when assault mode comes out its pretty annoying Raiga (talk • contribs) 03:57, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

You start with 6 cards in your hand on your first turn, you know.

Anyway, I hate Lightning Vortex or Saber Slash the most. Vortex because it's a splashable Raigeki in about any Deck, and acts like Mirror Force, except it destroys monsters in Attack or Defense Mode, and without the attack. I hate Saber Slash because it abuses X-Sabers best ability: SWARMING. Swarm 5 Sabers + Saber Slash + 4 Synchros = you lost. Especially with the Faultroll Loop, leaving you handless, monsterless, and then using Heavy Storm or Giant Truenade to leave you backrowless. You can run both in threes, meaning lots of trouble.

Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk • contribs) 05:19, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Cards that finish me off in duels. It ruins the fun. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 05:29, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Like what? There are always cards that finish you off, but it's usually entirely circumstantial. I lost a Duel because my opponent played Dimension Wall while I had PMD on the field, thought that doesn't it mean that I hate it. Anyway, Dimension Wall is actually my 2nd favorite trap. Whatcha' gonna do when dey're you're favorites? Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk • contribs) 05:43, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know but it's funny when your opponent finishes you off with a card in the first round and in the second round you finish them off in the third round. That's when I don't hate it. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 05:45, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Fricking Trish from the Fricking Ice Barrier. It's bad enough when one waltzes in and messes up everything you have at hand, but when the opponent does 2 or more in the same turn? FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 08:37, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Look inside the same Archetype. Anyway, Fallen, I have no idea what you meant there. Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk • contribs) 16:30, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ok for example, on your first round, you attack your opponent and your opponent beat you with Magic Cylinder. Now on your next round, you use Magic Cylinder back at them to beat them. So did you get it? Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 17:47, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it was the "Finishes off" that threw me off. Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk • contribs) 17:49, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Drew-Gi-Oh: Mirror of the Ice Barrier doesn't exactly stop Trishula, especially when it's one of the cards that ends up getting removed by his effect.--Akiza Izayoi (talk • contribs) 18:09, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Rescue f*cking Cat! It pisses me off :@. Fawlker (talk • contribs) 20:15, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Remember that cats in helmets are household pets in real life, not trading cards. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 21:17, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Compulsory Evacuation Device. DANG, this is annoying as anything. Runer5h (talk • contribs) 21:53, July 28, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h

I really hate gladiator beast war chariot and gladiator beast Heraklinos. That lock gets so annoying!--Bwinggale (talk • contribs) 22:12, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with that, every GB was made 2 be hated. But also THIS LITTLE RAT makes every monster become a bouncer, And thats why everyone but jaden hates it. Pato M (talk • contribs) 22:21, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

My most hated are anything that removes from play instead of grave(i.e. dimentional fissure, macro cosmos etc), my friends is red moon baby cause i say it in an anyiong voice as i summon it, hes already ripped up 17 copies LOL ace776

Oh, as for my most hated.... Bottomless Trap Hole. Never a fun card.--Akiza Izayoi (talk • contribs) 00:41, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

When used against me: JD, DAD, Honest, Kalut, Brionac, and Chaos Sorcerer right now. --184.96.216.174 (talk) 00:45, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I hate Honest too, and Kalut. Especially with Shura. I hate Sirocco too, and Marshmallon. D-prison is Sakurtesu x300 with no cap, and CED gets rid of Tributes/Synchs/Fusions. Heavy Storm unnerves me, since it and Giant Truenade are nearly always used in OTKs. Chaos Sorcerer is a "I SS him, I remove your most powerful monster that can't be destroyed by battle from play, then next turn you blow him up. Though most people may not have encountered him, Frost and Flame Dragon is annoying as heck, and has ludicrously easy summoning conditions.

I also hate Ryko, Wulf, Light and Darkness Dragon, and Darklord Desire. Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk • contribs) 02:00, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

O__O I said one card. Jesus man.---Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 02:48, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Gale the whirlwind, it destroys my stardust in a flash! Holydragoncrusher (talk • contribs) 02:56, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Icarus Attack and Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow. HouseholdCatDeity (talk • contribs) 03:12, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Now that you mentioned that Blackwing, I hate Honest. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 05:55, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

3 cards. Honest.(I hate how my monster is guaranteed to die if used.) JD(How is it balanced???) Brionac(>.<) Megadeth9887 (talk • contribs) 06:17, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Cards that activate in the hand, i.e. Honest, Blackwing-Kalut the Moon Shadow, Battle Fader, etc. (Emphasis on more than one Honest OMG THAT REALLY TICKS ME OFF!)

Don't forget Kuriboh.Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 17:33, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier hands down a rotten card that can easily finish the duel just by its effect alone.Raventheblack (talk • contribs) 18:29, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Don't you just love it when he dusts off your Mirror Force/D-Prison/Sakuretsu/Magic Cylinder/Draining Shield/Negate Attack? Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk • contribs) 05:45, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't use Sakurestu Armor or Negate Attack.....IT'S ALL ABOUT D-PRISON AND THREATENING ROAR.---Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 06:33, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

I hate Tuner's Barrier with Emissary from Pandemonium. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 17:07, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

I hate Honest... And I really don't think I have to explain why~ [Recuk]

Icarus Attack, Macro Cosmos, Caius, Bottomless, Black Rose Dragon Automation44 (talk • contribs) 04:54, August 1, 2010 (UTC)Automation44

No one mentioned Brionac yet so yeah I hate him. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 18:03, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

You know, I HATE Infernity Launcher, but I still don't want it to get hit. I mean Infernities instant Synchro Summon. That's kinda going to get taken away now. Guess they're ACTUAL going to have to use INFERNITY BEETLE'S effect. Huh, wouldn't imagine that...a CARD EFFECT actually being used........sounds too crazy---Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 18:16, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe they'll finally use the Synchro they were given. --Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk • contribs) 19:13, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Elemental Hero Absolute Zero... at least as an opponent, i love it as a monster on my side^^

I mean, it doesn't matter how it is removed or where it goes, every time it leaves the field it is a free Raigeki effect. -dest- (talk • contribs) 01:35, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

What wrong with good ol' Book of Moon and N00b of Crossout? They can murder him without blow the field off. --FredCat100 (talk • contribs) 01:42, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Solemn

Because of thse cards. --Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk • contribs) 03:51, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for cards that counter other cards, otherwise Yugioh wouldn't be yugioh. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 04:30, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Cold Wave. OH. MY. GGGGOOOOOOODDDDDD!!!!!!!!! The fact that I can't even set cards when it's played against me makes me want to rip up every copy of Cold Wave I find! It is the cancer that is killing Yu-gi-oh! Okay, that's an exaggeration, but it IS the one card that I actually believe should not exist for any reason. Rant over. Skullvarnish (talk • contribs) 06:05, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

How funny. Cold Wave was actually present for a very long time. It only took the Gladiator Beasts to develop Cold Wave into the potential game-winner it is right now. Ah, and don't forget - your opponent can't set or activate any Spells or Traps too. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 10:03, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but they only play Cold Wave when they don't need to play any Spells or Traps and it's obnoxious to deal with! Skullvarnish (talk • contribs) 20:48, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

And that's why it's limited sir. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 00:54, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

I Hate Creature Swap!

Say i have one strong and one weak monster on the field. My opponent murders my weak one, and then plays Creature Swap giving me one of his searchers. The worst thing is that my monster doesn't return to me in the end phase. O, and Honest also makes me want to punch my opponent in the face ;) Jens (talk • contribs) 16:40, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

• I really hate "Compulsory Evacuation Device"!

Sincerely yours, Unregistered User 69.123.238.61 (talk) 11:54, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Well you are going to need it against Red Nova and Shooting Star Dragon. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 18:22, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I really hate the Blue Eyes White Dragon, with 3000 attack points it's just overpowered. Plus it's unfair since there are only 4 existing Blue Eyes in the entire world. Hebi No David (talk • contribs) 18:58, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

What are you in, an anime? Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 19:37, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

• OR on DRUGS? My cousin must be very fortunate to have 5 then.---Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 19:44, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

ROFL Hebi No David must be joking and if he was that is hilarious, if he wasnt joking then man u need to get with the program there's loads of blue eyes in the world... In the anime there's only 4 XD, also its nowere near overpowered, it doesnt even have an effect, maneater bug can kill it xD.

In Traditional Format, I HATE Exchange of the Spirit (although Naturia Rock helps a little bit). In Advanced, Machina Fortress drives me crazy.

OK now it's CRYSTAL ABUNDANCE and it ANNOYS me. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 00:59, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

@HND, Indeed or Kuriboh alone can attack it. --FredCat ^{T.P. • F.R. • J.R. • W.S.} 01:26, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I hate cards that are too card efficient, like heavy storm, mirror force, dark hole. usually when these cards are played (hahaha no heavy storm now) they have no cost and this one card is destroying on average 2/3 of your opponents...

some of the cards people are complaining about aint bad, I mean come on, compulsory evac??? I would rather that than them simply just sakaretsuing my creature. or magical cylinder ( which are not sick cards, sak for example is one for one) unless its a synchro you still gain some hand advantage and even then, with the synchro it makes no difference whether its evac'd or sac'd its not on the field either way

but yeah, heavy storm being banned was brilliant, and they should follow suite with the other 2 cards I mentioned Volcanicstriker (talk • contribs) 04:46, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

I'm waiting for XX-Saber Faultroll to get hit. He alone is broken, not to mention fuels the infinite handloss loop. LV6 Reviver that's special summoned after Gottoms' Emergency Call is activated, or TF, Rescue Cat. The synchro for Gottoms, and wipe the opponent's hand clean! And it's even better when combined with Cold Wave...--Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk) 06:02, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Mine is Machina Fortress

I think the only reason Faultroll isnt being hit for now is that the whole x sabers deck in general is big money. a lot fo its components are pricey (emmersblade) and difficult to get and konami will want to capitalise on this (and to thosse who think this is unfair, they are a company out to make profit, remember that, they dont care how broken the card game is. insert evil laugh) but yeah I agree, faultrolls field swarmin capabilities combined with emergency call, mr gottoms himself and the discard loop is destructive and could probably do with being taken down a notch or two.

what do yous think about semi limiting say bestiari to make glads more playable? I know they are good but they got hit hard by the ban list a few years ago (or last year cant remember which) but with bestiari I would say they could maybe be top tier again. this is true of a lot of decks.for example lightsworns with that summoner thingy that brings a card from the grave. yous know the one im talking about (actually i think it may be called lightsworn summoner)

usually its the difference between limiting one card in the deck or not that can be the difference between top tier or not

Volcanicstriker (talk • contribs) 13:21, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Mark of the FECKING Rose! What an obnoxious card. It's a Snatch Steal for plant decks that you can use 3 of! Yeah, I know you get the monster back on your turns, but it's usually used for tribute/synchro fodder right away! Skullvarnish (talk • contribs) 22:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

i freaking hate bottomless, it really makes me hesitate wether or not to get my Scrap Dragon out when theres a backrow...

With the September banlist in place, Trish is no longer a major problem for me. The next card I'd RAGE over right now would be Dark Armed Dragon. Even when it's Limited... the very moment it shows up, everything turns into shit. And it's splashable, too. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 09:14, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

opponent top decking... then, " MMMMOOOOONNNNSSSTTEERR REEEBBBOOORN!. Pawnage. --SilentHero26 (talk • contribs) 12:25, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Jinzo. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 13:10, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Dimensional Prision my monsters in a duel is really effin annoying! --184.96.223.211 (talk) 05:58, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Bottomless vs my Crystal Beast Deck, it ruins everything...

Creature Swap ,and also Snatch Steal..Nagareboshi-kun (talk • contribs) 13:06, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

That's why they banned Snatch Steal. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 14:53, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

i cant stand dimension prison and karma cut it kills the mood of me and its always getting in the way of reusing monsters in the grave and i hate magic cylinder too its always there when you got a otk ready to go and you got a monster with 8000+ atk and you think you got it all in the bag until you run strait into the magic cylinder then you be like......CRAP!!!!--Litherain (talk • contribs) 17:46, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Same here unless it's you running the Magic Cylinder and etc. Then it's funny. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 05:33, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Honest. Honestly fcking annoying. Needs to be limited. Aside from instantly destroying any monster in a fight on either player's turn, it deals attack equal to their monster. AND what gets me the most, is that it has its own little damage step window, do you can't even turn the tides with Shrink or some other atk/def modifying card. Pif. Koyori (talk • contribs) 04:17, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

You forgot the fact that it's incredibly easy to reuse. --Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk) 04:24, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well a way to stop Honest is using DNA Transplant. That's all I can think of. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 17:14, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Tytannial, Princess of Camellias is really annoying to kill right now. --184.96.251.113 (talk) 00:35, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

• You can always Black Hole her, Mask of restriction is good against her too. HouseholdCatDeity (talk • contribs) 02:42, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

For some reason, I hate her too. She ruins the fun of activating most of my spells and traps. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 13:10, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I hate Riko!!!.HouseholdCatDeity (talk • contribs) 21:49, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Same here. However there is no use complaining about it. It's life man. Card games are suppose to be competitive, thus making hate. Hate is great for competition but don't take it too far by posting it on this forum. A lot of cards are supposed to be hated anyways. That's what makes them powerful. Hate itself. It's great hearing about hating but still you are just making the card really powerful. I hate some cards too and I have posted it here before but now I realized that we are just making them look great. Just like things in the world. So just stop making them look great. You'll make them look greater. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 23:00, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Question: Do we have a section dedicated around these cards. The wiki has card tips to enhance a cards use, but is there anything related to a "counter" certain cards? --184.96.251.113 (talk) 04:02, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Countering single cards? No, I don't believe so. There are lists of cards that work against archetypes though.|DED((Leaving Me Messages Are Often Left Here) 04:44, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Well in the card tips, there are some tip that counter. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 13:06, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Most of the Defensive cards. I create very fast decks but my opponent lowering the speed of my decks ruin my strategy a lot of times. I've lost the count of how many times i've lost a duel because my opponent countered all my good cards. By Snetonobre (talk • contribs) 15:30, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

i think most card that we hate already in the forbid & limited list . But still i wanna vote some cards that doesn't " get in " in the list like that Phoenix winged wind blast and x saber hole Gemini 93 (talk • contribs) 22:33, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

What happened to Mirror Force? Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 00:51, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Mark Of The Rose, Forced Back, & Share The Pain are annoying. Love using them, hate when used against you! 71.165.86.216 (talk) 06:46, September 24, 2010 (UTC)Automation44

Wow the cards that you don't see a lot is now mention in the hate list. Should've see that coming. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 13:09, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

herald of perfection. granted since its a ritual monster its got a load of weakneses. but that effect...Kazisaki (talk • contribs) 01:12, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Consecrated Light And Honest but i use Honest GOOOOOOOOOOD!!! D4r4v3n

Anybody starting to hate Dark Hole yet? Because I do. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 02:41, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Main reason why Dark Hole was forbidden in what, 2005? It is a terrible Card, especially in Tag Force 1, where the CPu's can use it. It's friggin annoying. Heavy Storm can get very annoying, but I especially hate Ring of Destruction. It takes out one of your good monsters if it is chosen, and then bam! Life Damage to both you and your opponent, but your out one monster. Of course, these cards are great when I'm in possession of them. Shrev64 03:42, September 27, 2010 (UTC)Shrev64

Yeah but dude, the cards limited now. Look it up. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 03:44, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

God, seriously. This is going to suck big time. At least I can put some Dark Holes back in my decks. `Shrev64 04:03, September 27, 2010 (UTC)Shrev64

Oh, and another annoying card is Arkana Knight Joker. If your opponent has a full, variety-full hand, you're screwed. Shrev64 04:53, September 27, 2010 (UTC)Shrev64

Dang, just learned that Heavy Storm, Brain Control switched places with Dark Hole in the Forbidden lists. Now I have to take out my Storms and BC's. At least Monster Reborn became useful. And hey! You can have TWO MST and Magic Cylinders apiece. YES! Shrev64 05:00, September 27, 2010 (UTC)Shrev64

Torrental tribute just p's me off... like why are you gonna kill all your monsters just to aggrovate me...Nameless0666 (talk • contribs) 05:30, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

So that way my Crystal Beasts can do even more damage...BassNettoHikari2...Chat Page... 06:55, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ugh then a Crystal Abundance will come along and wipe out cards. Not even Starlight will save you. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 13:11, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Scrap iorn scarecrow too... that thing has absorded some powerful blows...Nameless0666 (talk • contribs) 15:14, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

• I hate Macro Cosmos.. it is anti meta.--190.173.117.153 (talk) 15:29, September 28, 2010 (UTC)Tomas/bechi

I hate both meta and anti meta. They both are popular and most people use it. No offense to the people out there. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 23:07, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

why doesnt starlight save you from crystal abundance? it destroys more than 2 cards on the field...(I know there is probably good reason otherwise you wouldnt have said it) Volcanicstriker (talk • contribs) 00:42, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Volcanicstriker: Crystal Abundance SENDS cards to the Graveyard; it doesn't DESTROY, so it wouldn't fulfill Starlight Road's activation condition. Shrev64 00:46, October 8, 2010 (UTC)Shrev64

I really hate DAD, JD, Dark Hole and most blackwings (swarms too much) these cards keep activating and it's when I have nothing to counter with!!! Gas Snake X

Chaos Sorcerer. I wish I could take every copy of that card ever printed and toss it into a giant fire, and fire the ashes out of a canon into the sun.

Blackwing armor master. especially when aided by anything that stops cards from being destroyed. its summoned too easily and has a major OP effect. Alboono (talk • contribs) 10:08, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

XX-Saber Faultroll. Blackwings/Glads/LS/Scrap/Infernity aren't too bad for me, but if the foe summones Faultroll... insta game-over without a correct counter-213.123.215.233 (talk) 10:17, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Pot of Duality anyone? Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 13:01, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Apart from the price, Duality isn't too bad, you see 3 cards of their deck, know that one is in hand, & 2 aren't, and they can't special that turn, it's fairly balanced, but still good-213.123.215.233 (talk) 13:11, October 8, 2010 (UTC)