Forum:Royal Oppression and Divine Warning

how does Divine Warning and Royal Oppression differ in negating Special Summons? is it correct that DW cannot negate Macro Cosmos and Starlight Road but RO can? please im really confused about this, and can someone, (if ever) give examples of cards that RO can negate and DW can't? thanks alot June23ly 15:04, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Royal Oppression can negate special summons that are caused by the effects of Spell, Trap or Effect Monsters, e.g. One for One. It can also negate special summons via Summoning Conditions, e.g. Cyber Dragon. However, it cannot be used in the Damage Step so it can negate cards like Gorz or Tragoedia.

Divine Warning can negate all types of summons, even the ones caused by other effects. However, being a Counter Trap Card and Spell Speed 3 allows it to be activated during the Damage Step.

The rulings for the negation of Starlight Road and Macro Cosmos by Royal Oppression are BKSS rulings in the TCG.-- HHTurtle  (Talk) 15:14, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

In the TCG, the text of Royal Oppression states "...to negate a Special Summon of a monster and/or the effect of a card that Special Summons a monster and destroy it." It implies that it can only negate effects that will 100% special summon at least one monster.

In the OCG, the Japanese text states "...モンスターの特殊召喚及び、モンスターの特殊召喚を含む効果を無効にし破壊する。" This is roughly translated as "... a special summon of a monster and/or effects that includes the special summoning of a monster and destroy it. The key difference is that it states that it only needs the effect to have a special summoning effect, that may or may not special summon a monster, for Royal Oppression to be used against it.

This is main reason why Royal Oppression has quite a few BKSS rulings attributed to it in the TCG.-- HHTurtle  (Talk) 15:33, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

thanks alot June23ly 15:45, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

"Divine Warning" should be able to negate "Macro Cosmos" and "Starlight Road". It can negate the effect of "Nimble Momonga", and last I checked you choose whether or not to Special Summon with "Nimble Momonga" when the effect resolves. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 18:57, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

That's weird. I know this a relatively new card. As you said, Nimble Momonga may or may not special summon a monster. However, the FAQ section on the Japanese YGO wiki page of Divine Warning [1] states twice that it cannot negate special summons that may or may not special summon a monster. First is about Geartown. The second directly asks about effects that "include the special summoning of monsters".

Pardon? The first ruling deals with the activation of a Spell Card's effect. "Divine Warning" can't negate "Geartown" for the same reason that "Magic Jammer" or "Dark Paladin" can't - all of them can only negate the activation of the card.

The second ruling deals with cards that don't include the effect of Special Summoning. It's like the first ruling on Card Rulings:Divine Warning. It's because you could read the text as, "Negate ... the activation of a [Spell Card], [Trap Card], or [Effect Monster's effect that Special Summons] and destroy it."; some people probably thought that you could use it to negate any Spell or Trap Card.

Err, unless I'm mistranslating something? --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 19:52, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

so it means either OCG or TCG, Divine Warning can negate all types of summons including Macro Cosmos and Starlight Road? thanks alotJune23ly 00:49, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot about the first one and misread the "含まない" in the second one. There should be no problem.-- HHTurtle  (Talk) 03:29, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

So Royal Oppression CANNOT negate starlight road if the player chooses not to summon Stardust?75.42.198.63 (talk) 02:30, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

oppression can negate starlight.

Oppression negate any card that may special summon a monster. When a card is activated that may special summon a monster, oppression can be use against it even if the player is not gonna make the special summon. MobiusxXx (talk • contribs) 03:40, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Remember that with "Starlight Road", you choose whether or not to Summon "Stardust Dragon" when "Starlight Road" resolves. When your opponent gets the chance to activate "Solemn Warning", you haven't chosen whether or not to Special Summon "Stardust Dragon" yet. "Starlight Road" may still Special Summon a monster when it resolves, so "Solemn Warning" can negate it. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 06:07, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

• What if you don't have a Stardust Dragon in your Extra Deck, and you use Starlight Road? So that it is certain that it will not Special Summon a monster. 174.120.149.98 (talk) 22:51, November 28, 2010 (UTC)