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This list is for the people who are curious about why certain cards are banned/limited.

This list can also assist people before posting a prediction on the next banlist.

Please help out by pointing out changes that should be made in the list (if any) (please include reasons).

And for those who are wondering. No, I didn't make this list recently. It been on 2 other forums before. This is the most updated version of it as the other 2 aren't being updated.

See also: Historic Forbidden/Limited Chart. --  Falzar FZ  talk page  useful stuff    07:32, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

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We want '''Mind master''' back to play as limited in 2014

The psychic deck is the thousands favorite and popular synchro deck in the word, but unfortunately it's not played in Tournaments because:

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• it's stell slow without "Mind master"
• weak without "Mnid master"
• Psychic deck known as OTK deck, but without Mind master,that's olmost never will happend.
• The level of decks playing become higher and higher every day because of new decks as buijin and evilswarme....

We want see Psychic deck in big tournaments and arrive to top 8, and without Mind master,i think is dificult or may be impossible.

Personnaly i playing psychic but always i feel something meesing, and i suggest "Mind master" and "Brain research lab" become limited to be fair .

Thousands of duelists wait for it come back in next ban list, so...

''Let's duel'' Kickboxer1988 (talk • contribs) 17:32, March 3, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I don't know if this is the best way to ask, but does anyone know why "Morphing Jar 2" got completely banned (April 2014 Lists (TCG))? It only seems to have gotten any use in the All-Out Attacks OTK. As far as I can see... --LordGeovanni- (Talk To Me) *Kupo* 07:51, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

It's because it excavates a lot of cards at once, so it's broken in Sylvans, as well as clearing all the monsters off the field. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 08:20, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

The AOA-OTK appears to be the reason. Though it'd be more sensible to just ban All-Out Attacks due to the variations on the OTK.

MJ2 doesn't interact well with Sylvans ignoring their high-Level monsters. Although it excavates them, they still need to be sent to the Graveyard for their excavate-and-mill effects to trigger. Any LV4 or lower Sylvan hit in this process is just Set on the field with no fanfare.

The other possibility is that the banlist maker is bitter over Empty Jar. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 09:10, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

I actually just found out that MJ23 got an errata. Originally, I was disappointed that it didn't change to"excavate" but I guess they changed their minds...? I thought only the cards that ended up in the Battle Pack 2: War of the Giants - Round 2 set would be the cards that got errata'd? They really must have changed their minds because other cards got changed too.

As it is, I could possibly see MJ2 hit for that reason (Sylvans) but it doesn't make sense. Gadjiltron hit the nail on the head. I would have to have several monsters on the field when I then FLIP MJ2 in order to Shuffle my Deck and monsters and then possibly excavate some high level "Sylvans"? The Shuffle part would prevent stacking and then I have the whole "Hope and Pray" style? Not the best. Even then, the AOA-OTK is a stupid reason too. It relies on a restricted Deck as well as two monsters on the field (out of a max potential 4) with only Trap Monsters and Extra Deck monsters for backup (Trap Monsters and Extra Deck monsters don't count for the count of MJ2).

A bigger possibility (in my opinion) was something to do with Pendulum Summoning. Maybe something where you summon 4 and then FLIP MJ2? Or maybe as a deterrent to MJ2 being the perfect solution to the opponent using Pendulum, but that should have been hit after the first format of Pendulum, not before it had a chance... --LordGeovanni- (Talk To Me) *Kupo* 11:26, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

And the "Jackpot 7" FTK/OTK. --Missign0 (talk • contribs) 02:00, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

Just what is the "Jackpot 7" FTK/OTK? I thought that used "Dark Scorpion Burglars", not MJ2... --LordGeovanni- (Talk To Me) *Kupo* 04:08, March 26, 2014 (UTC)