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112.203.176.100 11:37, April 6, 2010 (UTC) by the way thanks for giving me the answers for divine wrath and gladial chariot.....but im still confuse with inherent summon...is the effect of THE TRICKY to discard one card to special summon it from hand a InHERENT special SUMMON?how about the darkworld monsters?

"The Tricky" has an inherent Special Summon. "Divine Wrath" can't negate it.

In general:

If the Summon must happen in response to something, then it's usually a Trigger Effect. (Ex: "Gorz")
If the monster can Special Summon itself ONLY from the Graveyard, then it's usually an Ignition Effect (Ex: "Plaguespreader Zombie")
If the monster's text specifies that the effect activates, then it's usually an Ignition Effect (Ex: "Ally Genex Birdman")
If the monster can be Special Summoned outside of the Main Phase, then it's usually a Trigger or Ignition Effect (Ex: "Treeborn Frog")
If the effect doesn't fall into any of the above categories, then it's usually an inherent Special Summon.

"The Tricky" doesn't fall into categories 1-4, so it's an inherent Summon. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 19:13, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

What about creatures such as Dark Simorgh or The Fabled Nozoochee? Playing in WC2010, I have had these monsters' self-summoning effects negated by Divine Wrath and War Chariot, but not Solemn Judgment, whereas the reverse is true for monsters such as Quickdraw Synchron and Dark Grepher.

Textually, I am unsure of the difference. Some folks at locals and I were arguing over such a notion, attempting to find out whether a monster was summoning by Ignition/Trigger or Inheritance. Is there another way to tell said difference textually?

74.232.42.40 (talk) 15:47, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

That's because the part that special summons them are Ignition Monster Effects, not Summoning Conditions. It's not very easy to see in the card text.-- HHTurtle ^Talk 15:54, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

"The Fabled Nozoochee"'s OCG text specifies, "You can only activate this during your Main Phase. Discard 1...". It activates, which means it starts a Chain Link, which means that it's an Ignition Effect. It falls into #3 in my above chart.

"Dark Simorgh" has specific rulings saying that its effect activates. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 05:28, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

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 [[Special:Contributions/74.232.42.40|74.232.42.40]] ([[User talk:74.232.42.40|talk]]) 15:47, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
-That's because the part that special summons them are [[Continuous Effect|Ignition Monster Effects]], not [[Summoning Conditions]]. It's not very easy to see in the card text.--<span style="background-color:LightCyan; border:4px ridge blue; -moz-border-radius:1em;">&nbsp;[[User:Hide Head Turtle|<span style="color:black;">'''HHTurtle'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Hide Head Turtle|'''Talk''']]</sup> &nbsp;</span> 15:54, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
+That's because the part that special summons them are [[Continuous Effect|Ignition Monster Effects]], not [[Summoning condition|Summoning Conditions]]. It's not very easy to see in the card text.--<span style="background-color:LightCyan; border:4px ridge blue; -moz-border-radius:1em;">&nbsp;[[User:Hide Head Turtle|<span style="color:black;">'''HHTurtle'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Hide Head Turtle|'''Talk''']]</sup> &nbsp;</span> 15:54, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 :"[[The Fabled Nozoochee]]"'s OCG text specifies, "''You can only activate this during your Main Phase.  Discard 1...''".  It [[activate]]s, which means it starts a Chain Link, which means that it's an Ignition Effect.  It falls into #3 in my above chart.