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I'm thinking about why the Egyptian Gods without eff are Ilegal, Ra and Slifer have no eff, 0 ATK and 0 DEF, the only good thing is the 4000 ATK and DEF of Obelisk, who will want to use it in a Deck?. And the difference between Victory Dragon and the other Match Winners that made it be Forbidden instead of Ilegal. ThanksYusei254 (talkcontribs) 11:20, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

They have the card text "This card cannot be used in a duel".

Hence illegal.

Victory Dragon does not have that text, and as such, is Forbidden.

-Resk ()() 14:08, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Every illegal card cannot be used in a duel. The Victory Dragons that come from an SJC has that text, but the Shonen Jump Promo does not. It is illegal because of the OCG rules - you can't give up before the 10th turn in the OCG so an early use of a match winner could win the whole match. BF2 Talk Deck Guides 14:37, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

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