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Most of today, I have been reading about autism, and would like to ask as many people as possible to help in the construction of a deck that has a play-style like that of people with autism. As for the theme of the deck, please give ideas so we can begin construction. I will be the one that updates the deck as soon as I can when someone has posted a suggestion. If you don't know what autism is, please look at what other people say and almost any site that is not Wikipedia. However, the theme/play-style HAS to be approved by someone with autism and have a vote of at least 9 other people for the theme/play-style to be the final decision for the deck. Thanks if you are able to help. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 21:07, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

Why not a Psychic Deck? It would tie in with the 'gifted' theme. Chromace (talkcontribs) 21:51, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, any other ideas?--I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 23:46, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

Autism comes in many forms...is there any archetype which encompasses that? It would be terrible to generalise it.
yeah, a well-built strategy deck like they use in the anime can contain nearly infinite flexible strategies, for example, take a look at the one I'm working on myself (forum's title Strategy Deck Help)Djt08031996 (talkcontribs) 01:02, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

I wonder, on the Psychic note, what kind of playing style would it have? I'm pretty sure Autism is characterised by immense (dare I say obsessive?) focus on a certain kind of task/interest/etc. Is there any way that could be represented? Chromace (talkcontribs) 12:04, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

But that interest changes depending on the individual. --Dark Ace SP (Talk) 12:43, October 25, 2013 (UTC)
Good point...perhaps we're looking at the wrong thing, building a single deck to represent something that can't be generalised. Proposition - multiple decks to fit Autism's diverse spectrum? Chromace (talkcontribs) 04:55, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

Combo-oriented Decks are geared towards setting off a particular sequence of card effects with no interruption. Some combo decks only have that one combo as their win condition, resulting in them insistently going for the combo at nearly every opportunity, with only the opponent's actions causing them to deviate from time to time. --Gadjiltron (talkcontribs) 14:29, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

So are there any archetypes or deck types you suggest? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 15:03, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, trying to create a Deck based around a game-winning infinite combo in Yu-Gi-Oh is rather difficult, since most game-winning combo strings are either impractical (too many potential points of failure), or have been murdered by the banlist. Perhaps the closest I can think of is the one-turn Shooting Quasar Dragon combo in a Yusei Synchro Deck, but that Deck also has the option of branching out to other Synchros for different situations, and won't represent the "insistence on the combo" aspect.
Perhaps a Utopia-ZW Deck might work, since it all hinges on bringing out Utopia and/or its Chaos forms, protecting them, and boosting them with a thousand weapons. --Gadjiltron (talkcontribs) 15:13, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, from what is listed, I see Psychic, Shooting star Quasar dragon, and Utopia (archetype) with Zexal Weapons. Any others than might have an overall relation to how some people with Autism act before I call for a vote? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 22:43, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

As a person with high-functioning autism, I feel like I should contribute. I think it's silly, but what you should do is make a deck focused around an abusable loop. Autistic people enjoy repetition. So a set that can be spammed repeatedly and easily to the most enjoyment of the player. So just give them most meta decks and let them go nuts. You don't need a special decklist because the most basic concept of "thoughtless spamming" already exists. Jet-Black Nova (talkcontribs) 05:05, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

Not speaking for myself but from what I've observed in various friends and acquaintances with a rather large range of how it displays itself, I would suggest what Jet-Black Nova is probably the best. --slave(commandworks) 06:27, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
In that case, Infernity Decks we see in the tournaments are fond of doing the same loop involving the same 3 monsters over and over again. --Gadjiltron (talkcontribs) 08:52, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps building multiple different decks might be a possibility? I don't really think Autism should be summed up in a single deck only. It's a wide spectrum. Chromace (talkcontribs) 10:51, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

Exactly that Chromace. For instance, I use a wide variety of decks ranging from a rank-up deck to Vampires, all the way to a bizarre Obelisk deck. You cannot sum up a mental condition in one simple version. There are infinite influences that affect the person. The only thing is let the person decide their deck. Not you. Jet-Black Nova (talkcontribs) 15:03, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

Speaking as someone with Autism himself, I'd suggest a strategy deck because, like User:Jet-Black Nova said, there are infinite influences that affect a person, which could be reflected in a deck with infinite possible strategies based on the situationDjt08031996 (talkcontribs) 21:07, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, by strategy deck, what do you mean? Chromace (talkcontribs) 02:34, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
Considering Djt's track record, his definition of "strategy deck" is "something flexible that adapts multiple different strategies to handle different situations". Vague, yes, but that's what I'm seeing based on his use of the word. --Gadjiltron (talkcontribs) 02:54, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
isn't that what it means? besides, in my dueling circle, one of the duelists has several decks, but his strongest by far is his strategy deck, so not only would the various strategies reflect the various ways autistic people can grow up, but the flexibility will make it a strong deck (it is pretty vague, though, but that can help to prevent duplicates that weren't intentionalDjt08031996 (talkcontribs) 13:57, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
Thus, in more familiar terms, a toolbox Deck. Just beware of the common mistake of trying to do so many things and ending up failing to do any one thing well at all. --Gadjiltron (talkcontribs) 15:25, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
That's why, if you look at my one deck that's supposed to be a strategy deck, the only thing each of the cards I'm absolutely not abandoning need is themselvesDjt08031996 (talkcontribs) 17:02, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

Out of curiosity; why are you trying to break down a shared trait shared by thousands of people into a single deck? (No offence; just curious and amused and confused) :) --slave(commandworks) 07:19, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

You might want to look a few paragraphs up. There was a small conversation on that. Personally, multiple decks sound like a good idea. Chromace (talkcontribs) 10:38, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, someone says "Strategy deck" and I now mention past decks I had tried top seek help with that didn't make any scene to anyone (hint, hint). How about a deck based of the Ideas of my previous decks I tried to make? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 21:31, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

Toolbox Decks would be fine for representing "variability" if built well - just be careful of spreading too thin and compromising on consistency. --Gadjiltron (talkcontribs) 01:21, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know about you guys but I think that they should take just take a random bunch of cards and make it grow, with gentle nudges and encouragement towards something they like. That's kind of what I did:

My real world deck is a complete hodgepodge of zombies, Synchros, Xyz, etc. It was originally a deck comprising of cards I got from my cousin, starting with the zombies (especially soul-absorbing bone tower). As time went on though, I found myself adding a lot of cards that did not match the zombie ideal. The only thing they all had in common was the fact that I loved them all. I put them in my deck because I enjoyed using them. Some combos are just so much fun to pull off, like a triple Soul-Absorbing Bone Tower combined with a Pyramid Turtle triple suicide for half the opponent's deck completely gone. (I still use deckout occasionally.) Sure, I run Shooting Quasar Dragon, and yes I also run Wind-Up Zenmaines but they're never at the core of my strategy; I really have no core. I play to bring out my favorite cards, pull off my favorite tricks. If I played competitively it would be a lot different yeah but I don't; it's a game to me.

For those of you with personal experience, does this seem like a bad idea? Aeron Solo wuz here (If you wanna talk) 01:35, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

actually, that's exactly what I was sugesting like Cannon Soldier killing itself for its own effectDjt08031996 (talkcontribs) 10:36, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

When I said "Other decks" I meant the ones you could not figure out. Also, I got some ideas for a deck:

  • Blue-Eyes: Blue-eyes white dragon is my most fav. card of all time.
  • Atlanteans: I like the way they swarm the field and are able to bring out their boss.
  • Constellars: I see they can swarm the field through normal summons, and I think that is cool.
  • Gagagas: they can practically xyz summon almost any xyz monster.
  • Ghostricks: they seem to be child friendly monsters, and I like that they can basically be amble to atk directly.
  • Gravekeepers: This is a favored archetype of mine, and I would be able to cancel out graves.
  • Hieratics: They are dragons, are light, and can swarm? sign me up.
  • LVs: reminds me on how people grow, and I like a few cards from this archetype.
  • Butterspy: Just because I like butterflies, which can calm people if there are enough around them.
  • Photons and Galaxys: I see this as the "Come at me bro" xyz countering archetypes.
  • T.G.s: This I would use for major Synchro summoning.
  • Vampires: Just about the only undead I would willingly use, and i like that they can mill.

Also, the decks I was referring to (as a full list) where:

  • Master deck upgrade suggestions
  • Puzzle deck suggestions
  • Personal deck suggestions: the list that is titled "my deck"'

First of, I would like you to tell me what it is you see in common with the three decks and what it is you think about me (again; hint, hint). Second, Id like to eliminate archetypes that have the least to do with what an autistic person might like till there is only one left. Thirdly, I might have thought you would know something about me I indirectly said with the first "(hint, hint)", maybe you'll figure it out after the second one. Anyways, thanks If you can help lower the list. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 15:07, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

the "hint, hint" parts to me suggest romantic feelings, yet your username suggest a dude, which I don't swing that way, but blue-eyes is my 2nd favorite card, my favorite being Red-Eyes Darkness Metal DragonDjt08031996 (talkcontribs) 23:21, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

Another failure. I Have given more thought, and I have these archetypes left:

Blue-eyes, Constellars, Ghostricks, Hieratics, LVs, Gimmick Puppets, and Wind-ups

The reasons I listed them are as follows:

Blue-eyes, Constellars, and Hieratics: their cards usualy follow the archetypes (examples: Maiden with Eyes of Blue for Blue-eyes, Constellar Virgo [possibly] for Constellars, and Hieratic Seal of the Dragon King for Hieratics)

LVs: Because it kinda reflects on how people and natures people grow (referring to the animals when I said "natures people")

Ghostricks, Gimmick Puppets, and Wind-up: the latter two look like toys (wind-ups for youths and Gimmick Puppets for the older) and the Ghostricks look like they kinda came from someones love for toons and Halloween.

Three things: 1. Any more that could be eliminated? 2. Any that where said before of during my ideAs that you sUpport for The deck? 3. Is It a bit hard to identify what it iS I aM indirectly saying? If you would like a clue, I just gave you it. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 03:18, October 29, 2013 (UTC) I get it now, and maybe you could do a Gimmck Puppets/Wind-up deckDjt08031996 (talkcontribs) 23:02, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

I have just ruled out more, this is what I have with the reason:

Blue-Eyes: Still a fav.

Hieratics: Like light monsters, and dragons. they fit along with blue-eyes (but not for favoritism).

Gimmick Puppets: again, TOYS!

Wind-ups: again, MORE TOYS!

3 things: 1. Any of thease have to do with what autistic people might like or something? 2. maybe start construction of each deck (one goes to a person, each) and people with autism vote on the best one, or (again) something. 3. If you have figured out what I indirectly said, put this -> ;) <- at the end of your post please. Again, thanks If your able to help. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 02:26, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

As a person with autism, I despise all the suggestions you made. They aren't fun and they require no thought. Just mindless spamming. Furthermore, I don't think it's possible to capture such a concept in a single deck. Jet-Black Nova (talkcontribs) 02:31, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

and I'm surprised it took that long for someone to say... not that i've been following this all --slave(commandworks) 04:01, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, because someone had asked me (not necessarily nicely) I now tell the truth. Is this deck for autism? Yes and No. No: it is not for everyone with autism. Yes: it is for a single person. I am looking for a deck that is like my personality (which is kinda what I was trying to do with the other decks, but failed because no one offered help because I had apparently confused them.) that was fun to use, but also could have a chance to take down people in tournaments. I wasn't sure if others with autism might like the deck (whatever it may be), so I thought it as if others might want to use the deck as well (which as I currently see, didn't work out as well as I would have liked). So, do I need to forget about this form or continue searching for a deck? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 12:15, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

...It's the internet you can do whatever the hell you want although the laws of your country may catch up to you and be irksome and you may be banned form sections of the internet which requires nothing more than a new account/proxy//etc... I am just surprised that to word it initially in such a ...blunt way and not expect someone to get upset... ironic. Next time I would suggest trying to make it clear that you are talking about 1 person and that they *happen* to have a given thing etc... --slave(commandworks) 14:34, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I hear you people. Now what to do about the deck? Which archetype that has been mentions so far might be for me? Or would I need to describe my personality for people to suggest a different archetype? Or would I just need to start a completely different form and forget about this one? I don't think I usually ask this many questions, it is usually 3 or less. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 21:18, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

yeah, that might help because everyone's different, like I'm working on a deck that uses gods to put my opponent downDjt08031996 (talkcontribs) 22:46, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

Lets see, I think I'll make lists:

  • Words that describe me: calm, fun, wise, (sometimes) short-fused, smart, (mood I'm usually in) happy-go-lucky, puzzle-like, etc. (ran out of words)
  • Small sentences about me: doesn't like conflict, likes video games a lot (especially strategy games), will laugh at almost anything (sometimes I can't control it), Passionate and determined to be whatever I want to, likes to collect pictures of the internet (that I like), thing a lot (to the point I will talk to myself while thinking of many different things and possibilities), sometimes childish or mature (sometimes, even both) etc.
  • Current interests: Star Wars, Yu-Gi-oh (obviously), Lord of the Rings, Steampunk, Dinos, Dragons, Magic (not the card game), Legos, Pirates, AQWorlds, etc.

I would remember more, but that is what currently comes to mind. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 20:59, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

well, that couldn't help me think of archetypes, but you could use Enemy Controller in just about any deckDjt08031996 (talkcontribs) 23:00, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

Would it help if I said the main things for the first 2 lists?--I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 20:49, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

2 things: 1. What would help about my personality that might help select an archetype that fits my personality? 2. should I just select one of the remaining archetypes? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 02:54, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

I think that depends on what kind of decks there are out there. I mean, anyone can base a deck upon some aspect of their character (Seriously. Anything. Even their Username. Chromace = Chromatic = Colour = Crystal Beasts/Gem Knights). Well...about AQWorlds, which occupation are you using (could have some sort of deck around that)? For Star Wars, perhaps a deck which uses Number 9: Canopy Star - Dyson Sphere? It just depends on what part of your character you'd like to capture, Shadow. Hope this makes sense. Chromace (talkcontribs) 04:54, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

I think I know what I would like to focus on; my personality. The part of my personality in specific:

happy-go-lucky mood, doesn't like conflicts, wise, smart, hard to figure out (puzzle-like), childish yet mature, etc.

If that still doesn't help, I am just getting started! On steampunk that is. I have taken an interest in steampunk a few months ago, and i have just begun a steampunk look. Think there are any archetypes that might appeal to me and my steampunk? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 13:58, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Someone say steampunk? Look no further than Ancient Gear - oh wait, that's clockpunk, isn't it? --Gadjiltron (talkcontribs) 14:08, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I'll leave the A.G. steapmunk deck aside as another project. What about my personality? any archetypes that have something to do with that? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 14:19, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, this is the list of archetypes that I have:

Archetype: Fortune Lady, Ghostrick, Gimmick Puppet, Chronomaly

If I where to build a pure deck of each one, who would have the best performance? Also, I took out Blue-Eyes as I realize I'm already constructing that deck. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 13:26, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

I am down to 2 archetypes: Ghostricks and Chronomalys. After I dest a pure Chronomaly deck, I will ask for suggestions for the archetype I like most.--I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 04:46, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, all of the sudden I'm curious, if Ghostricks and Chronomalies battled each other, who would win if they each had pure decks? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 23:22, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

No idea but on name alone I would suggest Ghostricks with a touch of Dustons. --slave(commandworks) 09:42, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I have decided; I am going to build a Ghostrick deck. On Dueling Network, this is what I have:

This is Hall-Toon-ween!

I know for a fact that this deck could use some "renovating", any suggestion? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 01:17, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Reverse Buster? Chromace (talkcontribs) 10:32, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, any other suggestions? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 02:50, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Trade the 2 "Yuki-onna" for 2 "Tour Guide From the Underworld". --Missign0 (talkcontribs) 02:55, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

why did you include toon in the name of the deck, made me think it was a toon hybrid (like maybe ghostrick/toon)Djt08031996 (talkcontribs) 03:41, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I included toon in the name because Ghostricks look like toon versions of Halloween creatures. Also, I am wondering, how would tour guide help this deck? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 04:57, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Primarily for Summoning Ghostrick Alucard, who will protect your other Ghostricks. --Gadjiltron (talkcontribs) 05:02, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I didn't think about that, that might actually be useful. I accept, but I will at least leave the Ghostrick in the side deck. This is the deck so far:

This is Hall-Toon-ween!

Looking good, or needs some more improvement? --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 14:15, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Tour Guide, not Tour Bus. Corrected. --Gadjiltron (talkcontribs) 15:34, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

does the deck need any other updates? is it good? something else about it? I'd like to know. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 22:54, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

when done right, the extra deck is set apart in its own tabDjt08031996 (talkcontribs) 00:33, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
I was talking about how the deck itself was, not how I listed the cards. -_- --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 02:07, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I am assuming that no one saying anything means there is nothing wrong with the deck, and can participate in tournaments. Thanks for the help. --I may not be perfect, but thats who I am. (talkcontribs) 22:27, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

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