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Ok stop the edit war now. We're getting nowhere, and this is a waste of time for all parties. Stop undoing the edits until an admin specifically says something about this. I can't find where An admin undid an edit like this, so you'll have to find the instance and tell it to us. 69.207.190.249 (talk) 23:25, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
Yea, knock that out already. We can say that it's Xyz Version of "Armory Arm", except that it's not "ZW - Lion Arms". --iFredCat 23:28, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
- We have MANY trivia facts that aren't firsts...141.0.9.62 (talk) 23:30, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Then please. Delete those trivia tidbits by all means. We don't want other users being inspired by those pages. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 23:31, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Anyway, here is the link: http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=Card_Trivia%3ANumber_44%3A_White_Sky_Horse_-_Sky_Pegasus&diff=2422142&oldid=2422134
- And no, FredCat100, we cannot say it is a version of those cards just because its effect is slightly similar. 64.62.201.5 (talk) 23:33, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
- On another note, Neo Galaxy-Eyes Tachyon Dragon is not similar at all to Cyber End Dragon, so that should be deleted too. 64.62.201.5 (talk) 23:35, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
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Instead of going through an edit war, does the user who keeps adding baseless trivia wish to explain why he thinks those trivia points aren't just wild assumptions? 50.117.80.77 (talk) 17:54, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
First of all, can the rude tone. Second of all, not all Number meanings are easy to figure out. Kazuki Takahashi isn't exactly giving us any confirmation on what they mean, so of course any potential meanings to the Number would seem baseless. But on the other hand, we EXPLAIN how these potential meanings relate to the Number itself, so they aren't baseless. Bottom line: Just because Takahashi is giving us no clue to the meaning of the Numbers does NOT mean that the public who CAN see the meanings shouldn't give our own interpretations. --Taylor Gorrell (talk • contribs) 18:00, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
- That's the thing. They are baseless. This card isn't named after a bridge nobody knows. Also, just because 'shi' means death doesn't mean that very Number with a 4 relates to death. Mach is the human form of this card; not its dead rider, as far as I gather. Since there were really baseless stuff about Numbers on Trivia pages in the past, it was decided that only obvious references should be added, not wild assumptions. 50.117.80.77 (talk) 18:08, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Exactly. I think it should be removed, as it's just speculation and no references to back it up. Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 18:12, April 26, 2013 (UTC
And just how do either of YOU know this? The card isn't numbered after its Xyz Materials, either. Or is it? No one truly knows, so under your logic, the Trivia bit about the Xyz Materials should be deleted as well since it's apparently "baseless", as you put it. Any clue to the Numbers' meanings have no bases since none of them are confirmed. So, going by your logic, there shouldn't be any clues to the Numbers' meanings on ANY of their Trivia pages. --Taylor Gorrell (talk • contribs) 18:14, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
- We can only keep the ones that are likely. I even deleted the part about its Xyz Materials once but decided to keep it later on because it was the most likely theory. 50.117.80.77 (talk) 18:16, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
See, right there. You're contradicting yourself. The Xyz Materials are NOT the most likely theory to the naming. Takahashi is known for some clever naming, so there is no way he would name the first Legendary Number after its own Materials. So what did he name it after? WE DON'T KNOW. --Taylor Gorrell (talk • contribs) 18:21, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Besides that, giving a Number based on its Xyz Material, is the weakest kind of reference a person can give a card. That's just laziness. --Rocket.knight.777 (talk • contribs) 18:22, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Then that should be deleted as well. Are you fine with deleting all 3 since none of them is very likely? 50.117.80.77 (talk) 18:23, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
- The other two are more likely than the Xyz Material. They can stay. --Rocket.knight.777 (talk • contribs) 18:24, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
- No, they aren't. Do you care to explain any connection between this card and a loosely known bridge other than its name? 50.117.80.77 (talk) 18:29, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Can't you read what is typed? "which was renamed in 1944 after the emblem of the British Airborne Forces." Name and Number match. Thank you come again. --Rocket.knight.777 (talk • contribs) 18:30, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Read our text carefully: It doesn't matter how obscure a reference is, if it fits with the card, it should be in Trivia. Please, quit being so bullheaded about this. --Taylor Gorrell (talk • contribs) 18:32, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Wish we had a trivia rule page. We know not to speculate in character articles/episodes, and simply put things that are true and back them up with a reference, but trivia is a problem (some things could just be moved to card appearance, while some other things scraped). Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 18:36, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, not enough. The bridge was built in 1934. Are you saying that the creator was so uncreative that he researched when a bridge nobody knows was renamed? If so, there is a lot of other stuff that matches with this card and its number. I can say that it's based on the book "Pegasus Bridge", whose time of happening is 1944; however, because it's obviously not related to it in any way, we won't put it up. There is no likely reason why this card would be based on a bridge. Also, that's the reason we don't put up obscure references. There is an enormous amount of obscure references that fit with this card. We won't put it up if it doesn't have an obvious connection to this card. Nobody is interested to hear about unrelated stuff to this card. 50.117.80.77 (talk) 18:38, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Trivia pages were not designed for adding any conceivable links between things. While there has not been much removal in the past, many have been in favor of removing the kinds of trivia that have sparked the edit war for this page, and users have recently begun doing so. The correlation to that bridge and this card is weak at best, as is that reference to 4 and death. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 18:51, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
- So, it should be deleted, right? 50.117.80.80 (talk) 11:58, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, fine. Do so. I'm done fighting with thick-headed people. On another note though, I think a little more should be added to the point about this being being the embodiment of Mach, who himself is the spirit of a legendary Pegasus. --Rocket.knight.777 (talk • contribs) 13:39, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
- More like the embodiment of Rainbow Dash. It even has rainbow coloring during one of it's attacks.141.0.8.158 (talk) 01:48, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
So can an admin delete the irrelevant parts already?! 50.117.80.77 (talk) 00:22, April 30, 2013 (UTC)