Forum:Upgrade problems

The recent upgrade seems to have messed up the formatting in the archetype navboxes. There are underscores between the members' names and an arrow to extend the boxes now appears if there are numerous members. I'm using the new wikia look on Chrome.

The wikitext options (bold text, italicize text, your signature with time stamp, etc.) are also showing up twice at the top. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 11:48, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * GalleryHeader is also messed up (Go to any gallery page).
 * Center isn't working for some tables.
 * The "Read more" is starting to annoy me on rulings pages, "This card effect does not target." etc is bound to appear on wrong pages and people who think "Read more" refers to "read more on this article" would screw up.
 * "… further results" gets sorted when the list is sorted, it shouldn't do that. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:32, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's why I voted no and they ignored me! What's a bad luck! -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:47, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Wasn't the "Read more" always at the bottom of rulings pages, Falzar?
 * Fred, you voted no for the lightbox, which is something else. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 12:56, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Correct, and I am absolute against anything Wikia foolish threw at our face, ever the new skin ($%^$ the space limitation!) -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:59, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * It didn't appear until just now. Maybe it wasn't added to Monobook so I never noticed. If it's not bothering anyone else, I'll just hide it manually for myself via css some time. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:48, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am aware that some user rather Monobook skin over New Wikia Skin and I have no problem with that - but it's Wikia Staffs themselves that have a problem - they should revert all those shits back to normal. They just make New Wikia Skin look pathetic each time they "upgrade" it (more of downgrading). So I would still rebel against this whole updates - they should check it out twice before actually publish it... (/rant) -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  13:51, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh yes, also they raped the image enlarge - they don't show up at all and can't withdrew out unless hit the Refresh button or CTRL + R. Get your arse, Wikia Staffs, OUT OF HERE! -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  13:52, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * This is a MediaWiki upgrade, not a Wikia feature. MediaWiki upgrades usually just contain bugfixes and improvements and generally non-controversial changes. There's always a few bugs or things that we need to change whenever we get one of these upgrades.
 * Most of the bugs reported so far are a result of mixing the changes with Wikia features and SMW. That's why they're unlikely to have been dealt with yet.
 * I've fixed the archetype navbox problem, or the worst of it at least. If there's anything else wrong with it, please say so.
 * Can someone give an example of a table centring problem? -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:15, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * It seems to be because the stuff in the "class" changed or was disabled by some reason. Some table classes had alignments inside then, so wasn't necessary, now it is. It's not really a problem since it's not used much and adding centers is easy.
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 14:24, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * I still can't find an example of this. But &lt;center&gt;&lt;/center&gt; is deprecated, so we should try to avoid using that.
 * Archetype/series lists are fixed now. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:29, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Delta. Template boxes all require expanding to see full content now. Can something be done about that? --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 14:36, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Example would be the "Key" box at Forum:Reasons why cards are Forbidden/Limited, in that case, it seems align=center broke. I'm certain that it was centered just before the update.
 * Also, is anyone else seeing & lt;r& gt; at the top of Recent Changes ?
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 14:38, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * No shit, Falzar... And thank you for corrected me, Sub-Founder... I meant for them and still referred them as the one I mentioned. They should revert all that back to normal before they could pushing the site down at least 6 feet under the dirt. I am just little sick of see Errata Box covering the updating information on right side of the site and no image when clicked to enlarging. Again - no shit! -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:52, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * align="center" in tables is deprecated. You should use  instead.
 * The navboxes going off the page was my fault. I've it fixed now. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:20, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * GalleryHeader problem is fixed now. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:02, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Artwork headers are still messed up, though. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 20:31, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, fixed. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:41, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * The "Read More" section was always absent in Monobook (in fact, I'd not seen one in so long that I forgot it even existed). Now I see it and its already bugging me. I really can't believe that what's random visitors to the wiki see at the bottom of every page... Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:06, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm used to it, but I doubt anyone would cry if it was removed.
 * Still seeing double wikitext options. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 17:49, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Page edit notification emails now have the text "$PAGESUMMARY" instead of the actual edit summary. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:53, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * All those ranting they gave out supporting my objection - those "upgrade" have to go, period. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:42, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * While I hate certain additions (the lightbox) and placement of things (why is the option to add a video above the option to add images?!), this sort of upgrade is necessary, Fred. Certain incompatibilities will always need to be fixed, but the updates fix bugs and are necessary. It's not a huge deal, and we've got many of them sorted out mere hours later. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 20:47, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Was Width-Screen Size sorta out? Don't think so - also fucking double stuffs. I rather old version over this shit new version - and I am absolute not changing my mind. Since I had an instinct, I have my own willing. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:51, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm sure the "Read more" appearing in Monobook is a mistake. Wikia will probably remove it soon. In the meantime, I doubt there's any problem with us hiding it in Monobook with CSS, considering it's not meant to be there and doesn't work properly there. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:26, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * For anyone wanting to hide it, just add the following code to your monobook.css file:  「 ディノ 奴  千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:32, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Negref has been disabled. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:54, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * In other word; MediaWiki just got fuck'd. If I was the Founder - I should reject that program in the first place. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:55, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * No. Negref is a custom extension. It's very uncommon and unlikely to have been taken into consideration when designing the upgrades. The entire interface here and on most wikis is MediaWiki. Without it, this site wouldn't exist. This upgrade is actually very important. It's left us with a few bugs, but they're all fixable and in the long run, we are better off with the upgrade. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:15, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * One gallery (and surely others) doesn't have the card's name listed in the box header.
 * I actually prefer the pages without the SMW factboxes, tbqh. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 23:49, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * That problem happens when getting the Japanese name for cards without ruby text. I tried fixing the template. The logic looks right, but isn't working. Dinoguy:  returns blank, but   returns "Ruby Text" rather than "Japanese Name". Can you see why it's doing that? -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:49, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * It should really use an #if rather than #ifeq, but the problem still exists. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:00, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's because it doesn't actually return nothing. I'm not sure how best to work around it, though. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:48, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've just set an #ifeq to check for that product. It fixes the problem for now, but I imagine future versions of SMW will change that output, in which case that template will need to be revised. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:38, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Needs staff help
The following require staff assistance. This covers unresolved problems mentioned above and more. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:36, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Page size is not displayed in page histories.
 * Page edit notification emails now have the text "$PAGESUMMARY" instead of the actual edit summary.
 * &amp;lt;r&amp;gt; in the recent changes options.
 * Followed pages' histories don't have the updated since last visit notice beside some edits.
 * Rollback and undo don't appear beside all edits in page histories.
 * Category addition emails use MediaWiki:Enotif subject for the subject instead of MediaWiki:Enotif subject categoryadd (this also applies to new blog notifications and new article comment notifications).
 * Attempting to rename a file results in the error "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason: The new file extension does not match its type".
 * Resized images have their edges cut off. e.g. original and resized.
 * The right hand side of images in galleries are being cut off. e.g. Card Gallery:D-Boyz.
 * The job queue is no longer shown on Special:Statistics

Wikia skin only
 * Edit toolbar has repeated buttons.

Monobook only
 * Search autocomplete is missing.
 * Link suggest appears off the page.
 * "Read more" sections are appearing.
 * Spotlights are off-centre.
 * The wrong new messages notification is shown when you have new messages on this wiki only.
 * Initiating a watch/unwatch (follow/unfollow) updates the tab label to read "following..."/"unfollowing..." as appropriate, but the label is not updated again to remove the ellipsis when the operation actually completes.


 * I would rather turn them off and have them fixing off the wikia, they are already waste their time make this site look foolish. Yes, I am still resisting to accept the new changes. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:42, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Here's another one for Monobook (I don't use Wikia often enough to know how the watch/unwatch (follow/unfollow) functionality actually works, and thus whether it's affected or not): when watching/unwatching a page, the message changes to "following..."/"unfollowing..." as appropriate, but the ellipsis does not subsequently get removed when the actual watch/unwatch operation completes. (Should I just add any further bugs I notice directly to the above list, Delt?) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:28, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd say add them directly to the list. -- Deltaneos (talk) 09:44, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Added, I'll do that for any others I notice then. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 09:55, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * And another enotif one: email notifications for a page being added to a category you're following now have the subject "See the latest changes made to $PAGETITLE on by $PAGEEDITOR", instead of the correct subject "The $PAGETITLE page on  has been added to $CATEGORY by $PAGEEDITOR" (this may also have happened for new blog notifications and new article comment notifications, but we don't have user bogs or article comments enabled here so I can't check). 「 ディノ 奴  千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:30, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Renaming files seems to be broken, e.g. this results in the error message "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason: The new file extension does not match its type", even though the image is clearly a PNG. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:52, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I moved another image just now and it worked fine, it's probably just that image that's problematic.
 * On the topic of files, what happened to Special:MultipleUpload? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:02, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Apparently, it changed to Special:UploadWizard
 * After uploading a bunch, it seems to force you to add release rights, but with strange buggy/incomplete options like  
 * Also, I can't seem to find a way to add a custom summary to apply to all of them at once like in Special:MultipleUpload
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:53, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Weird, Special:MultipleUpload apparently works again. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:01, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * I just tried to move a topic to the Forum using the new moving setup, but it instead moved it to "Form:". >_> --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 15:47, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's another prove I was right... Fucking Mediawiki Staff and their toys. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  15:52, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, I thought Form was a misspelling of Forum, but the Forum option is there as well. I actually like this new way of moving; I don't understand the ordering of the options, though. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 16:40, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * They're ordered by namespace ID. You can see the namespace IDs at User:Dinoguy1000/namespaces. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:21, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Still, we are better off without those toys... -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:25, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not a case of bad vocabulary. Forms and Forums are two different things. "Form" is used for is used for Semantic Forms. Forums are used for discussions. We've had them both for ages. It's nothing to do with the recent update. Golden Key just looked at the wrong word and thought it was a mistake. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:22, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Still no, I rather "Forum" over "Form". Must back it out immediately. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:23, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * What are you talking about? "Forum" has not been renamed "Form". They're two different things. Golden Key just misread something. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:27, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * He moved one of "Forum" into "Form". If you keep that, you have losing my trust. The whole "upgrade" stuffs MediaWiki threw at us are actually downgrade. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:30, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, he moved a page from the main namespace, where it was mistakenly created, to the Form: namespace. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:30, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * I got that - but I am not changing my mind about those "upgrade" stuffs. I am stuck being Rebellian. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:36, July 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Anyone else seeing all the edit notices appearing twice? (Edit a talk page, edit a Card Tips page, etc to see them) -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:26, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, in Monobook. They only appear once or appear in some odd way in the default skin. I'm not sure what they were like in the default skin beforehand. -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:56, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hi All, Thanks for detailing this. I sent it onto our Product & technical teams. The majority of issues are known and being worked on. Thanks for your patience as we get through these. --Sarah (help forum | blog) 17:34, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * You better keep your word for this. I would like to reduce the mover faction back to normal, the way before each user gain their rights to moving them: It's like we are ambushing from anywhere and nowhere as well as wasted our time tried to fixing stuffs that "trollers" moved into and get them locked up. Visiting this article for further knowledges. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:38, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sarah: Has SMW been upgraded to a newer version here too? A lot of these problems (and a number of unmentioned ones) are related to SMW. A lot of them are to do with different syntax being required and different output being given, rather than being actual bugs. Although some seem to be bugs. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:38, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Another problem: on history pages the undo and rollback options aren't always available for the most recent changes. Has anyone else noticed this? --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 18:11, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah. Like with the "updated since last visit" notifications, it appears beside some but not others. I can't see the correlation between the ones that do get them or the ones that don't get them. 'Added this problem to the list. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:19, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * That is why I asked Sarah to keep the new-ish stuffs off till they proof-test it and see if they are clearly. They lacked something; Patience. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:23, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * To be fair, them deploying it here is actually part of their testing. We got the update early because they'd need to stress-test it on a very large wiki to get an idea of how it'll hold up when all of Wikia has been upgraded, and they also hope that more bugs with it will be found if there are a lot of eyes on it, as there are here. It simply wouldn't be possible to adequately test the upgrade without deploying it to some wiki, and deploying to ours is better from a server damage management/mitigation perspective then deploying to a dozen smaller wikis (plus we have a fairly unique setup AFAICT, which means we test parts of the upgrade that might otherwise go untested until the site-wide upgrade). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:40, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Non-sense, I kept my vow - if I see any waste of the time additional stuffs in this site and not making an improvement, I will stop attend this site till they removed this! Size-Width is still an issue right now! And it must be fixed or removed, immediately. And no, I am not changing my mind, ever. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  18:24, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * They have wikis set up specifically for testing, but they still need real-world testing, and no amount of testing on closed beta-testing wikis can get that. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:36, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Still, I don't forgive them for make this site look foolish. They need to keep testing till it's perfect clearly - else, trash it. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:06, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

I've just noticed you can see the page size from the page history by hovering over the number that indicates how many bytes the page length changed by. That can be used for the time being until, we have the lengths fully reappearing. DaNASCAT is looking into fixing it, so that appears without the need to hover. -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:29, July 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Still, I am against those garbages. It's a waste of the time - I now can't help with the Gallery and all shits if this continued. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  04:23, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

SMW
Semantic Mediawiki seems to have been upgraded too. I think it's been from version 1.5.5 to 1.7.1. I'm moving the SMW bugs to here and posting some new ones. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:50, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Negref is disabled.
 * "Further results" in sortable tables from #ask queries shouldn't move when the columns are sorted.
 * Factbox is gone from the default skin and unstyled in Monobook.
 * The removal of the "Type" namespace left us with a bunch of unreachable pages.
 * The warning that appears when a property is given an invalid value is unstyled.

Golden Key has said above that he thinks we're better off without the factbox appearing in articles. I agree with this. Does anyone else? Readers don't need to see that section. The article itself is supposed to provide readers with the information there. If it doesn't, it probably means the article isn't laid out very well. But in compensation, the default skin should include a link to Special:Browse for users who do need to see it for construction #ask queries and what not. e.g. the Dark Magician page should link to Special:Browse/Dark Magician. That feature exists in Monobook. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:15, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree, remove it. It's more trouble than its worth, even without the "Japanese name is too long, page is borked" issue. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:53, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree as well; 99.999% of a given page's viewers don't need to see the factbox.
 * If we had to, we could easily enough add a link ourselves via some Javascript, but I'd much rather it be something that's added from Mediawiki's/SMW's side of things. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:55, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

All card name links on the Files using Template:OCG-TCG card image seems to be broken. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:46, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Fixed. Unfortunately, there also seem to be a zillion other template-related bugs caused by the unannounced SMW upgrade. =/ 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:12, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * And yet, Enlarge Image (that viewing when you click on image from the article or Image uploading) is still broken. Dismissing this dumb shit stuffs - I am still unhappy of not able to opening the image to get a closer look. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:44, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * I noticed that occasionally the factbox appears unstyled on pages in the new wikia look. After doing an edit I saw it on the page of Iron Core Luster, but it disappeared after I left the page. It shows up after I null edit, too.
 * Also on some card pages, a tiny bit at the bottom border of the card images is sometimes cut off. I never noticed this before the upgrade. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 16:31, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Further comments
Many resized images seem to have their edges cut off. e.g. original, resized; original, resized; original, resized etc. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 01:06, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

I think all the card pages are going haywire, because of the updates, the navboxes are now condensed, so you don't see a box, just Show/Hide button. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  15:06, July 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * It seems like the styles from Mediawiki:Common.css are not being applied to the default skin. They are however being applied to Monobook. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:29, July 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, it's working properly for me again. Are you still seeing this problem? -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:52, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

There is no longer a huge white space above the card images, and the show/hide boxes appear normal on the card pages. But the bottoms of some images have been cut-off, not all of the cards are like that though. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  15:20, July 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Falzar mentioned this above. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:29, July 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * And I mentioned it above him. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 18:46, July 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * What can you guys do to fix it? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  18:46, July 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think there's anything we can do. At least not directly. It's added to the list of things we need staff to look at. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:07, July 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * The right sides of a lot of cards in the galleries are now being cut off as well. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 16:00, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * By that, you mean the image part of that card was stretching passing to the right (our right) that it seemed like it was chopping out? -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:24, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 16:25, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh well, less action for me. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:31, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Goldy - it appeared that Gallery is not only one to have that kind of problem: Artwork articles also get them Yubel as explain. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:34, July 18, 2012 (UTC)