User talk:Deus Ex Machina/Archive8


 * Also see Archives 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5, and 6.

Forum:Removal of the CategorySelect tool
Hi Deus Ex Machina. You're probably aware of the CategorySelect tool? Could you leave comments on whether you'd like to see it removed or not here. Thank you. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:06, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

You dont know the rules of yugioh
Half of this wikia is based on wrong Rulings If a monsters effect sets the ATK/DEF that was ? to a amount the effect has faded so the new ATK/DEF is on as long the monster stays on the field. Even if a monster is flipped face down by Book of Moon the ATK/DEF can't be negated because it isn't a effect anymore like the effect of Bower Bond,...

First I Didnt insult others I insulted you. Second if the Card's effect is This card's ATK is equal to (Values) then the ATK is changed by flipping face down. But if the cards effect is like: The original ATK and/or DEF of this card (Values) or This card's ATK and/or DEF become equal to (Values) the ATK is only changed if the card is removed from the field!!! (Did you ever read the official rules on a world championship or the pharao tour?)

Do you mean Konami FAQ(fan made site), Yu-Judges (they are Konami approved but not made by Konami) and Konami DE (Translaton from the real site) Look at the http://www.yugioh-card.com/japan/ for the ruling Changes by gaming style. (Tournament, Free, Official, Bet,...) Overdragons new ATK and DEF are <First removed after the card is summoned again, sent to the deck or RFP, because it states the ORIGINAL ATK and DEF while Montage Dragons ATK is held by its effect(Skill Drain effect ATK of Montage not the ORIGINAL ATK and DEF of Overdragon).

But Fortress dragon Edits the 0 to x1000 Value while the Overdragons ? are x800 Value monsters. And Sry I made a mistake with the translating of Cyber Eltanin but there is a whole article on the net with arguing about what stats are changed by what cause (a idiot wrote that the ATk change od Axt of Despair is effective even is the Card is removed by MST or Heavy Storm) LOL SRY Fot the insult again

Reply from MY: First Your friend is the one who is gay.(A lot of yugioh players have girlfiends or are even married(pros and old school)) Second type Konami Yugioh Rules to google then on the first link

FIRST YOU MENTIONED THE FORTRESS DRAGON FIRST SECOND READ THE EFFECT WORD BY WORD, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE THE ORIGINAL ATK IS.

hello
i know you have a lot to do but can you write back?

thanks

hi
hi mr deus ex machina ive seen you around and could you have a convo with me?GBmaster 18:42, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

ok im fine because i dont use ICR either anyway im just wanting to add friends to my friend list in my user page, so what deck do you use?GBmaster 21:57, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

cool, in that case i have a question you know inbonable gladiator beast the quick play spell well,on yugioh 2009 (ds game) the effect of this allowed me to send GB cards to the deck from the grave not just monsters, and it says just monsters on the card and the card text in the game,so is it a glitch or are they reprinting the spell.GBmaster 22:31, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

THANK YOU!!!!!!
yes i would like some help .....

i don't understand yu-gi-oh! one of my friends says "it should be called yu-gay-oh!", is this true that yu-gi-oh! is gay?

and don't get those rules for yu-gi-oh! and what are the rules?

THANKS

R.HUDSON

My thoughts and tips upon Final Destiny Spell Card
Dear Sir and Madam:

After I've given a clear and careful thought, I've finally come to a conclusion about Final Destiny Spell Card. The prerequisite to use it effectively is to use Infinite Cards Spell Cards on the Field, and use other quick deck drawing cards in order to gain hand advantages over your foes. If there's any more tips to this kind of strategy, please let me know asap, okay?

Thanks, bye! The Professional 20:32, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Flamvell Firedog
Does the activation of skill negate the effect of flamvell firedog

hi
thanks that makes me feel better !

question: why is seto sooooo evil to joey? why call him a "mutt" r.hudson 21:34, November 14, 2009 (UTC)ruby

Are You Sure?
The text on Precious Cards From Beyond states that you draw two cards if you "...tribute summon or set a monster that required two or more tributes..." it doesn't specify that it has to be two monsters.--Dragonking 03:37, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

But the effect that applies considers to number of tributes to be two. Take money for example. a double tributer is like the ever rare two-dollar bill: it's a single bill, but the value is that of two dollars. Other types of summoning level 7+ monsters by tributing one monster like Tribute Doll, go more along the lines of a discount in the metaphor, where you only pay one tribute/dollar for something worth two tributes/dollars.--Dragonking 21:41, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

That's because Cloudian - Nimbusman counts by "monsters". Precious Cards from Beyond counts by "tributes". There's a small, hard to see, difference.--Dragonking 01:03, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

hi again!
what do you think of yugi?

r.hudson 09:00, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Korean backing
Do you know what's on the reverse side of Korean Yu-Gi-Oh! cards? Do they use the same backing as Japanese cards or maybe Asian-English? -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:32, November 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * That's okay. Thanks anyway. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:30, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Vayu & royal oppression
could you check that ruling query, cause i dont think its right...then again i could be wrong, but that why i came to you Marmka 02:07, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

yugi
i like yugi but i love yami yugi!

do you like joey wheller ?! r.hudson 16:31, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Judges forum rulings
Don't know if you've already noticed, but Yu-Judges also includes rulings from the Judges forum.

Are these rulings taken word-for-word or are they based on what was written by the Judges? I've seen a couple of minor mistakes (e.g. miscapitalising or leaving out hypens). Should we fix these these or leave them as they are?

Some of them are the same as the main TCG rulings. (e.g. the first one for "Light-Imprisoning Mirror". Do we need to list them too? -- Deltaneos (talk) 04:30, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

HI!!!
HI AGAIN DEAR FRIEND!!:)r.hudson 09:38, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Worms
Looks like the first part of "Worm King's" effect requires a Retiple-Type, so there seemingly goes the ability to Tribute "Dimensionhole" or "Electric Virus". But supposing, 1 was to use "DNA Surgery", selecting Reptile, would they be eligible in that case? Assuming these Worms get released in the TCG and someone was to combine "DNA Surgery" with a non-"ワーム" "Worm", like "Humanoid Worm Drake"... Should we change card texts to accomodate for these bizzare situations?
 * ''... 1 Reptile-Type "Worm" monster (other than "Humanoid Worm Drake"), Reptile-Type "Electric Virus", or Reptile-Type "Dimensionhole"

Or are we assume it to be the same case as Archfiends and players should just know what does and doesn't count? -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:19, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Face-down Attack Position
Hey. I heard that Darkness Approaches is the only case in which there can a face-down Attack Position monster, but what about Curse of Fiend? Its lore doesn't say that it switches to face-up Attack, just that it switches positions. This question suddenly hit me when I saw the Face-down page. Thank you for your time.PoirotH 06:25, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

sorry:(
hi couldn't write to you last week because my mum took my laptop away!!! sorry

Gaap the Divine Soldier vs curse of anubis/level limit area B what happen??? what battle postion the monsters????Daredevil^^ 11:50, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Book Of Eclipse.
I have a normal monster face up on the field. My oponent have another. He activate "Ojama Trio". OK. Now i have 1 monster and 3 Tokens. The i activate "Book Of Eclipse". What Happens with the tokens ? (Sorry for the bad english, im brasilian) Massinha4 17:39, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Decoy Dragon
Hey DXM, how have you been? Good I hope. Anyway I tried a tip on Decoy Dragon's Tip page (the fourth one down) on WC09 and is didn't work like it says it should. Is it a glitch in the game or is the tip inaccurate. D.Kaiser (Talk • Contribs • Count) 14:36, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that one. Thanks again for clearing that up. D.Kaiser (Talk • Contribs • Count) 03:09, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

yo!
hey hows it going buddy? Thanks for the help with some of my question but and interesting point came up. Does Penguin soldier still target or does it "choses a monster?" DeVast 01:47, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

I owe you an apology.
In response to the message you left me, I did in fact realize that the ruling was unofficial as soon as I posted it.

I don't know what I was thinking. I must have been in a silly mood.

Anyway, so, I'm sorry I made a spammy mess that you had to clean up :-P.

It won't happen again. I wish there was some way to repay you.

I'm so sorry.

--GoldenSandslash15 05:36, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Rulings Knowledge
I have recently been registered as a Konami judge, and would like to become a top judge. I recognize you as someone who recognizes all rules, and understands all game mechanics. I would like to ask what you have done to become so knowledgeable of rulings and mechanics so that I may be just as competent. DemonGodAsura 07:52, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Tragoedia Rulings TCG/OCG Differences
Hi,

I can't find an official source for TCG Rulings about Tragoedia vs Pachy, but here is a difference. o_O

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Tragoedia

flip flop frog
Hey man, could you clear this thread up please? http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Flip_Flop_Frog_%3F&t=20091215215842

It's about whether or not flip flop frog is counted for it's own effect when destroyed by battle facedown.Yummyjelly 22:51, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Are you Italian?
Hi, Deus Ex Machina. Are you Italian? Are there any forum where we can find you talking about Yu-Gi-Oh! rulings?

The LaDD effect can negate the effect of your own cards??
Can the LaDD negate the effect of your own cards???

Wikia(J)
Can you translate what this note on Wikia(J) says exactly?:

※重要なお知らせ：近日サーバを移転するので、移転直前の編集部分に関しては反映されません. ご注意下さい. （移転日は早くて12/23、遅くても今週中には行える予定です. ）

Thanks! ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 11:13, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks! I though they wanted to close the site or something! ATEMVEGETA  (Talk) 01:08, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Second Coin Toss
I'm Dueling with a guy here. He is using Arcana Force. He is Discuting with me that Second Coin Toss negates the effect of a card once per turn, but that you can Activate it any times as you want in different cards. But i think it can only activate it once per turn in only one card. Who is correct ? Sorry for the Bad English, i'm Brasilian. I Wish u understand. Massinha4 18:10, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Croatian Translations
Man, you guys have a rel problem vith Croatian translations. Can I help with that. I am from Croatia and I made a lot of translations allready.

Can you translate this?
Or can you find someone to translate this:

Ａ：《ファントム・オブ・カオス》の効果で《エキセントリック・ボーイ》を対象にできるか、という時点で調整中です. （09/11/10）
 * Ｑ：《ファントム・オブ・カオス》でこのカードの効果のみをコピーしました. この《ファントム・オブ・カオス》をシンクロ素材に使用する場合、手札のチューナー1体を使用してシンクロ召喚できますか？

I found it in the Tips for Eccentric Boy.PoirotH 11:56, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the help.PoirotH 06:17, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

easy translation look
Q: "Phantom of Chaos" has been copied from the only effect of this card. This "Phantom of Chaos" If the material used to synchronize the one hand you can summon synchro tuner to use the body? A: "Phantom of Chaos" in effect "Boy eccentric" targeting ability, as it is being adjusted. (09/11/10)--Sartorias 12:00, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

@Sartorias: If you don't know about this, please don't translate it with online translator. It's the Card Ruling, so it should be case sensitive and clearly to understand. --Blackwings0605 14:54, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Question about Second Booster's effect
Ok, it's effect on this site it says "When the ATK of 1 monster you control is changed, you can Tribute this card to have that monster gain 1500 ATK." but according to Shriek's site it's effect [in OCG terminology] is ""Activate by Releasing this card, and selecting 1 face-up Attack Position monster you control. The selected monster gains 1500 ATK until the End Phase." and no where does it talk about anything changing, beyond the selected monster gaining 1500 ATK. So where did this site get the part "When the ATK of 1 monster you control is changed..." from?Altyrell 05:59, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, and any timeAltyrell 14:00, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Question on Talk:Priority
There was an answer given on Talk:Priority, which I think was wrong, but I'd like to check with you first. "The Creator Incarnate", has an Ignition Effect, so when you Summon it you can call priority and activate it. Since Tributing itself is a cost, it gets Tributed before the opponent can chain anything. The opponent can't play "Bottomless Trap Hole" then because "The Creator Incarnate" is in the Graveyard. Is that right?-- Deltaneos (talk) 15:02, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Success Probability 0%
Hey man wats up. Quick question, if I activate Success Probability 0% and my opponent has Fusion and Synchro Monsters, I'm pretty sure that they have to separate all the Fusions from their Synchros in their Extra Deck face-down in order for me to choose 2 Fusion Monsters. Is this correct?

Thanks once again for clearing something up for me man. you rock out loud LoL!!

GX manga parody
Hi, do you think you could help me with something, unless it's too much effort? How strong is your Japanese? There was a parody of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX printed in the V Jump magazine a few months ago. Yume o Idaku uploaded scans of it: Other than what I've already told you, I don't know much about it. Do you think if you took a look at the scans we could get enough info to start an article about it? -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:48, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * http://yumeoidaku.info/GX/LOL/inu01.jpg
 * http://yumeoidaku.info/GX/LOL/inu02.jpg
 * http://yumeoidaku.info/GX/LOL/inu03.jpg
 * http://yumeoidaku.info/GX/LOL/inu04.jpg
 * http://yumeoidaku.info/GX/LOL/inu05.jpg
 * http://yumeoidaku.info/GX/LOL/inu06.jpg
 * http://yumeoidaku.info/GX/LOL/inu07.jpg


 * That's okay. Thanks. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:27, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

FL Light + Magical Dimension Review
http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=Fortune_Ladies&diff=875140&oldid=873206
 * About how you said "Removing the comment about "Magical Dimension" - that's currently under review." Is this review over yet? If it is, what was the result for it? (Asking since there have been different opinions put up there recently, some say it doesn't miss, some say it does miss.) Falzar FZ 23:48, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

combo idea
Is this legal? Say i played polymerization and fused material monsters then enter battle phase and attack with the fusion then activate de-fusion and split my fusion monster back into the fusion materials and attack once more with them, then i activate Super poly and fuse my monsters again and attack with the fusion monster. Is that a legal combo? lol DeVast 23:57, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Arcana Force Rulings
All the users whom you left messages for are the same person, and have been identified as spammers. DemonGodAsura 02:20, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Roid
The last sentence of Vehicroid Connection Zone said that "its effect cannot be negated" What's effect??? the effect of the spell card or the effect of monsters that were special summon from this card???Daredevil^^ 15:06, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Contradict on "Necrovalley"
The contradiction was saying that Necrovalley in TCG can only negate effects that target cards in the Graveyard. But according to its second ruling it also negates (err, prevents) costs and effects that require removing cards from the Graveyard (Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End, Dark Necrofear, ect)! Except the contradiction means something else that I missed! ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 20:14, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think the ruling is worded that much incredibly badly as you're saying! I think the "negate" in the ruling is refereed to the "effects that require removing cards from the Graveyard" and not that much to the "costs". Of course costs cannot be negated (unless some exceptions), and that's why I said the "(err, prevents)". I said "negates" first because this is what the ruling says! By the way, Necrovalley can also negate cards that does not target cards in the Graveyard like Big Burn, ect! ATEMVEGETA  (Talk) 21:07, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah! Now I saw it! Necrovalley's second effect! I was looking only to its first effect and I was wondering why Book of Life couldn't be able to be activated since it's not only affecting cards in the Graveyard, but it also targets them!
 * And, with the missing of Necrovalley's second effect, according to Big Burn's ruling, it seemed that it could also negate cards that do not target cards in the Graveyard. The ruling says also "negate" instead of "prevents" which making the perfect confusion. lol!
 * Hmm! I'm not seeing a ruling saying that Necrovalley can negate effects that do not target cards in the Graveyard, but since its text says "affects" instead of "targets" I guess that it should negate also effects that do not target.
 * By the way, it's fine with me to keep the contradiction if you want to!
 * ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 21:37, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok! We keep the contradiction then! Thank you too! ATEMVEGETA  (Talk) 21:56, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Wrong Rulings

 * There are some effects that are wrong in this page ,as Horus the "black flame dragon lv6" .Horus saiys that it is unaffected by spell so you can t use "monster reborn"to special summon it from your graveyard.(in wikia says =it is unaffectable while face up)in any part of the monster effect says this.

Thanks Alot.Gxthelord 00:32, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah,thanks alot about your previous reply regarding Reactors effects. But now I have another question,under its ruling. It does not negate the activation of trap card(Trap Reactor),so what happen if a mirror force is activated when Trap Reactor declares attack? Does it attacks resolve? And can u tell me more about (sign your posts with four tildes Gxthelord 00:32, January 25, 2010 (UTC)) where should I put the 4 tildes?

Invitation
Dear Duelist,

I would like in inform you that I have just created a duelist friendly and safe chat on my user page for duelist. I'm also asking if you would like to be a moderator for the chat. I, as the owner, have seen you about the boards all the time and would be honored if you would accept this position. I can see from experience you love/enjoy this game as much as I do and will work to helping other duelist who may not be as experienced as you. If you wish to decline this offer please feel free. If you would like to accept please leave me a message on my users page with the name you are going to be referred to on the Chat. Thank you and I hope to talk to you soon.

--TheDivineDuelist 19:49, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

hi again
hey thankx for those tips last time,now I want to knw about how u put those box. The one with the Show button. For Monster,Spell,Traps.Those that are on the DECK HELP section. Btw,wad you think about Harpies working alongside with Reactors? =)

Hi
Hi, I've seen that you've answered a lot of my questions here and I was just wondering if you're an official judge or something. And thanks for answering all those questions btw! --CloudStrife768 04:09, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Back to an old discussion: Card Rulings:Ancient Lamp
I'm seeing that you are using the yu-judges site as a source for the rulings. Now, should we get Ancient Lamp's rulings too (since they appear to that site)? The (deleted) Geosites site didn't had them, which means that UDE didn't had them either when they lost Yu-Gi-Oh!. What we should do? ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 20:24, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Even if UDE (probably) deleted them? ATEMVEGETA  (Talk) 20:41, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok! Should we list them as Semi-Official, or not? ATEMVEGETA  (Talk) 21:03, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Lava Golem Query
Player A has 2 monsters (1 is a face-up Dark Magician) and set S/T's. Player B goes to Special Summon Lava Golem. Would Player A be able to activate Eradicator Epidemic Virus to tribute his Dark Magician before Lava Golem would be Special Summon or would it be too late to activate EEV?Altyrell 21:19, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Deus Ex.Altyrell 01:42, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

i know its correct
im only doing this so i could win a bet

Junk Synchron + Geminis
How's it going DXM? Good I hope. Anyway, I was working on a friends deck and a interesting question came up. If Junk Synchron special summons a Level 2 or 1 Gemini monster, does he negate its effects? I don't think it would due to the fact it has yet to gain it's effects but I was just looking for verification. Thanks for you time as always. D.Kaiser (Talk • Contribs • Count) 00:58, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Question about Helios Monsters and Venom Swamp
Ok, how does Venom Swamp effect the Helios monsters? Cause i currently have Helios - The Primordial Sun on the field and it has 500 Atk/Def. What happens upon ending the turn?. I also have Caius (400) and Survivor (300), Gravekeeper's Servant, Dimensional Fissure, Soul Absorption and Venom Swamp active, and a face-down spell/trap.Altyrell 20:24, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nvm, i solved it, lol had to re-look at Venom Swamp's effect.Altyrell 20:55, February 16, 2010 (UTC)