User talk:Cheesedude/Archive5

Transformation Monsters
Now that it's been clarified that even in the manga, these aren't considered to be a new type of Monster Card, I think the "Acid", "Dark Law" and "Daian" pages need revising. Should we just change  to   and add 'This card cannot be Special Summoned, except with "Mask Change".' to the beginning of the lore or should "Form Change" also be mentioned or mentioned instead for cards that were Summoned using it? -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:03, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Those aren't the only two cards we'd need to mention. There's also "Mask Change Second" and "Damaged Mask". Adding all four is going to make for some very clunkily worded card lores. To be honest, it's not something I thought about at all when I went and clarified the rest of it. Regardless of anything else,  to   Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 14:10, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Have any "Masked HEROes" been shown to be Summoned with more than one of the four cards? Or have any of the real world ones been Summoned with anything other than "Mask Change" in the manga? If not, we might be able to say that each can only be Summoned with a particular one of the four.
 * If they have... since the real world ones only mention "Mask Change", I suppose we could do the same with these ones, like how Ritual Monsters only mention their unique Ritual Spell Card. And consider the others to be alternatives like "Advanced Ritual Art" and "Contract with the Abyss".
 * There's also the dodgy 'This card can only be Special Summoned by the effect of a "Mask" card'. But I worry if we did that people would jump in and add every card with "Mask" in its name to that series and create an article beginning with something like "Mask is an archetype used by Umbra and Lumis in Yu-Gi-Oh! and Jaden Yuki in the Yu-Gi-Oh! GX manga.". -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:19, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * No. All of them were Summoned only once, actually (and "Damaged Mask" only ever Summoned a non-Fusion "Masked HERO", but the wording would allow it Summon a Fusion one). Yes, "Vapor" was Summoned via "Form Change".
 * I think that works.
 * Yeah, let's avoid that last option at all costs.
 * On a related note, what's the point of having a page for "Double Attack (Attack Union)" and a page for what happens when its used. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:13, July 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think this edit is inaccurate and one I was hoping people wouldn't make. A lot of fans can't seem to accept that the game works different in the anime and manga and we don't have to change card's lores to the closest real world equivalent. (I've even seen one page say that in the anime "Giant Soldier of Stone" had an effect that lets him destroy 1 Spell Card.) Unless I'm mistaken, if you translate the text on "Double Attack (Attack Union)" you get something like '2 "Masked Hero" monsters can attack 1 monster together. The ATK is equal to the their combined ATK.' That means that both monsters actually attack one monster at the same time. This is impossible in the real world, so it's a manga only mechanic. The other article was on this mechanic. The effect it was changed to in that edit is similar, but still a lot different. e.g. "Red Dragon Archfiend" shouldn't destroy one of them in the End Phase.
 * Anyway, I was half expecting to see more cards that Double Attack, so the article's not as important as I thought it would be when I started it. It seems to be a once off odd rule, which we've seen plenty of before. -- Deltaneos (talk) 02:51, July 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * May I suggest we just revert it and add a hidden note stating not to change it? We could add hidden notes to a lot of card articles saying this. It might help. It may also help to include it in the documentation for CardTable2 (and advertise the fact that such documentation exists a bit better). Yes, the obsession with translating everything to real world terms bugs me as well. I wish people would just accept that they the rules differ. The lores for "Dark Sanctuary" and the Legendary Dragons are impressive attempts to translate them into real-word effects. That does not make them any less wrong. Hell, I'd love to remove all the Notes from episode/chapter articles detailing differences in effects. I really think there being parameters on the card pages for the lores should suffice.
 * Right. I'm not sure we really need it then, since it would be covered in the card page anyway. It's also a rule that likely would have seen much more use had the manga not been cut short (thanks, ZEXAL). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:47, July 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey, sorry to butt in, but I just like to give you some information that similar to this flaw - Remember the time when Judai turned Supreme King? Yes, "Dark Fusion" and etc... That can also be used via "Dark Calling" instead. I am pretty sure that "Mask Change Second" and "Damaged Mask" can put in the word just like "Dark Calling" referring to "Dark Fusion" when summoning the Evil HERO Fusion Monsters. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:24, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that's also a good option. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:13, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Yuma's hand
I did not literally mean "hand". It was really an opening set of cards on table with Yuma's Deck. I didn't have a better idea how to name this card set. You can change the note if you like. --Aged Goblin (talk • contribs) 13:36, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Tragoedia's Weighing of the Heart
Do you know which chapter Tragoedia's Weighing of the Heart took place in? And would you be able to get a more appropriate infobox image for that article? -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:21, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Chapter 31. The current image is quite appropriate. Tragoedia's heart being weighed is precisely what is happening in that picture. WK absorbed it and its weighed against the Feather of Ma'at. WK doesn't turn brown until after the weighing is complete. Looking through the chapter, there are two other images we could use, both of which show Kuriboh's side slowly falling. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:13, July 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Also, I believe I made a mistake in my chapter summaries when I mention Seto and Kalim. Tragoedia's weighing happens shortly after the Kul Elna Massacre. So those two characters would not have been the priests that sealed him. Their unnamed predecessors would have been. The Pharaoh they wish to hide the existence of Tragoedia from would have been Atem's father. An IP pointed this out at Talk:Tragoedia (character) and I failed to go ahead and fix the articles (though I have verified from the manga itself that the IP was indeed correct). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:56, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Card Tip:Card Appearance:CoffeeDude
[http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=Card_Tips:Number_34:_Terror-Byte&diff=1541826&oldid=1539451 What. The. Freaking?] That's one reason why I continued the "Coffee" joke from that argument we set up? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:41, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Everyone makes mistakes. I didn't realize there was a comma. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:13, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

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episode 16
where did you see the whole episode of yugioh zexal 16 i can only find places with only 12 minutes of the video

"Villain" Article
Well, I know you find it not need, but it could help the newb user who not know how to find them can find under that article. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:56, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Ninjutsu/Ninjitsu
Yes, I moved them already when I noticed that. Mad Rest 22:23, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Spirits
OK. If there is no consensus, I'll revert my edits. --Aged Goblin (talk • contribs) 00:41, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ojama
Yup. When Jaden takes out his Deck before going to the Abandoned Dorm, "Ojama Yellow" is shown on its bottom. --Aged Goblin (talk • contribs) 00:41, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Bullets
I didn't know that. I began changing prose to bullets to keep canonicity which exists in GX articles. If that is the case, I'll revert my edits. --Aged Goblin (talk • contribs) 00:46, July 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think I've somewhere read that if there is no consensus or an existing policy, should be kept. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, I won't change prose to bullets anymore. --Aged Goblin (talk • contribs) 01:11, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

IP
Chech this guy. He seems putting false information in the articles. --Aged Goblin (talk • contribs) 22:37, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Get Eng Name
I assume this also isn't working on so many Rulings pages because of SMW being down? Golden Key (talk • contribs) 03:44, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Episode 179
I know this episode doesn't feature a particular card at its end. But it does show featured cards from previous episodes. Does episode infobox have a parameter where these cards can be listed? --Aged Goblin (talk • contribs) 00:53, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Account
Does the wikia allow having more than one account? If not, I'd like you to block an old account of mine (it's not a bot) with an expiry time of indefinite. --Aged Goblin (talk • contribs) 00:53, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't use my old account anymore since I have more edits on this one. The same reason goes for blocking. --Aged Goblin (talk • contribs) 01:06, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * This one. Do I need to confirm it? --Aged Goblin (talk • contribs) 01:15, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Confirmed. --Evil Squirrel (talk • contribs) 01:23, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Shamanomnomnom
Well, thank you for improve "Shaman" article I was trying to create original. I should know that "Shaaman" going to the one you fixed, not with "Japanese" line. :-) Let's hope that it get better over time - I only took them from E-HERO article when to created it. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:35, August 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sure. You did a good job otherwise. Very glad the article popped up so quick. I'd not have gotten to it myself until at least tomorrow. Next time, I might suggest you use another anime-only archetype as a base. The E-Hero page has so much information in the infobox that a smaller anime archetype won't need. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:39, August 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for a kindly word. And I will certain try to remember that when I come access to one of them. Also I am wonder why Filter is little too... highly lately? I was trying to revert the article back to normal with explain that seemed to be consider as spamming. I told the unregistered user in the summary that "Shaman" didn't show up in GX and didn't release in OCG/TCG and you know the story - Spam Blocked. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:43, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Chapter "Zero"
I just saw "Chapter 000" in Chapter 1, is there really one exist with that number or was SMW glitch like freaking again? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:35, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Must be SMW. It seems the fallbacks we have for it link the logical number automatically, even if it's not actually logical. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:25, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, right, thanks for hitting my head. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:26, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

His name is GILIAREWEROFVIE
I warned him in Talk Page many times but he just went and did it. Again, sorry for amuse topic, if you need to laughing at. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:49, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * What? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:51, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * About the Mysterious Dinosaur if you checked the Talk page you just revert not so long ago. He kept saying that it's Gilasaurus, while I warned him that it's not because of no stat showing, neither did the Life Points (before Battle was set). -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:52, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok. Yeah, I reverted it. It COULD be Gilasaurus, but we don't know that. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:53, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's why I tried to counter him... >_> -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:55, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Jack's Feelings
Well, yea, but after that; Carly was ignoring by her revival from death. Unless if that's still strong confirm - all we should wait is to get Yuma's heart rip out of his chest by Cathy's claws and heard his word "I love you..." or something? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  18:44, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Surface
Oops, thanks for fixing it. I think that was the first time I accidentally suppressed the main card page... upon logging off, I remembered that someone vandalised the page on Surface before, so I moved it over to that name so maybe I misclicked, and that's also why I didn't move the images yet, or upload the new english image yet. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:26, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Curious...
Why you just broke my nose with a good ole' door of your at that minute? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:36, August 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I thought your edit summary was a bit unclear. I also thought that simply responding to the poster was a better option that deleting his post. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:38, August 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, check his Talk page, I just gave him a nice warning (not ragequit warning version) before let him get some spank from you and Admins friends of your. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:39, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Exodia
So you took my idea better than his? I am surprise for once... -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  18:06, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Of or F-?
Didn't take into account that nowiking it would completely f the spacing.

Is that just me or you just screw up the sentence with 1 "f"? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:43, August 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Nope. I meant "f" as in "fuck". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:44, August 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see, it's because of site's censor filter has kick in action. If you wanna say that word, better say "f-ing" or "f-", as censor filter won't suspense it. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:45, August 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * I know we have no filter. I just chose not to use the actual word since I wasn't quite angry enough to do so. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:46, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Goblin of Greed's Story
Since you seem to know something about the Master Guide 2 in regard to Card storylines, is the "Goblin of Greed" part of that article actually taken from official materials? What with the poor grammar and thematic blunders (like misinterpreting "Good Goblin Housekeeping" as actually joining a housekeeping service), I find it hard to believe it's anything more than the disjointed conjecture of a well-meaning adolescent use. Please reply ASAP.

Headcrab64 (talk • contribs) 04:30, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Card Appearance
This dude still has "CardTable2" or so it called included in it article. And I have noticed your action with few of other Card Appearance lately, so why not go kill it? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  11:09, August 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I haven't gotten to that page yet. I will eventually. I have a list of pages that are using it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:01, August 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * There's still a handful of Card Appearances pages using CardTable2; Cheesedude can only work through them so fast. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:55, August 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Right. And I only do so when I feel like editing but don't feel like thinking. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:49, August 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hm, it sound like you kindly let the "instinct" of your do the work, while your brain rather to analogize on all other of "Manga" stuffs. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:52, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Roll down the Hill
You have a pretty fowl mouth. Talk pages are for discussion in all wikias. I never received any information about improvements exclusively and stuff. --Juely 19:25, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Alright then. I'll have it in mind. --Juely 19:36, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Happy days!

 * Moved to Forum:CardTable2 discussion. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:45, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Question.
Hey "Cheesedude" I was wondering if you could slightly edit a mistake in "Ruka's bio? Ruka cannot manifest her duel spirits that she befriended, rather she is the only person who can see or talk to them(that doesn't mean she can manifest them). It's not like Judia/Jaden. Yes he could do that but what everyone forgets is thats because he fused with a duel spirit(Yubel) and before that he could only see and talk to them while everyone else couldn't. The scene in episode 19 shows Ruka holding Kuribon(but that's only because she was in the spirit world, same thing in episodes 48-49). Ancient fairy dragon and Regules appeared in episode 51 after Ruka's duel with Demak, however Ruka did not manifest them, rather they materialized on their own. In episode 70 she did not manifest Regules and he didn't manifest ether, he just appeared as an image and warned Ruka(same thing in episode 78). So she cannot manifest them like Judia/Jaden can, she only can talk to them.Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 00:13, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blocking IP addresses of people who use harassing language.
Cheese dude, I was checking that guy you blocked just now and let me tell you: Thank you! I was fixing every single page he ruined with language I won't even put here. I wanted to ask you this: lately, I've been trying to learn more and more about this site so I could contribute to it.

Thanks to AgedGoblin, I've learned how to fix pages and now I'd like to learn how to cut the evil right directly from the root (sorry if the expression doesn't exist in English. It's common in Portuguese). In short, could you tell me how to block these sons of ..... ?

F.E.A.R. (talk • contribs) 00:17, August 9, 2011 (UTC)F.E.A.R.

Episode 18
Are you sure some flashback features "GEPD"? I noticed "Baby Tragon" next to Yuma, but "GEPD" nowhere. --The Goblin (talk • contribs) 01:47, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yu-gi-oh episode 155
Okay, sorry about that Kombat716 (talk • contribs) 04:20, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Move
Could you rename the following image? --The Goblin (talk • contribs) 00:37, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

File:EvilHeroLightningGolem-JP-Anime.jpg → File:EvilHEROLightningGolem-JP-Anime-GX-NC.jpg

season 4
Hi. Sorry about the changes, all I did was trying to tell you that there's gonna be a season 4 of Yu-gi-oh GX season 4. Believe me, I know it. Kombat716 (talk • contribs) 01:24, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yubel and Jaden the GX finale
I mean as of May 2011, they do intend to keep final battle between Yubel and Jaden the GX finale indefinitely. Kombat716 (talk • contribs) 01:37, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

How many comments needs a talk page idea?
Just wondering. I once proposed to seperate arcs and tourneys as example, which Deltaneos thought it was a good idea. Never really happened. Now I'm wondering how many supports an idea on a talk page needs, as I have proposed to seperate the deck list from Yuma (which you have seen). HellKaiserN (talk • contribs) 18:50, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ok. If nobody disagrees in a few days, I'll make the page I guess. Was only checking things, so I wouldn't be too fast and others delete the page or such. HellKaiserN (talk • contribs) 09:26, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

question.
Would you mind getting PoirotH to stop messing with Leo's article(yes it's me, I'm using a mobile device since something came up). I know that some may not agree, but this is ridicules(he is the only one who seems to have a problem). 24.28.27.188 (talk) 03:41, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

So you're saying we should include it as a side comment that he may have powers?PoirotH (talk • contribs) 05:01, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

And I believe it wasn't due to his supposed "powers". I won't deny those things happened, but I don't think they happened because Leo has above human abilities. For all we know, the Crimson Dragon could have done it. Wouldn't be the first time it comes to rescue.PoirotH (talk • contribs) 05:20, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

So you're saying we should include something like "When Leo Summoned Life Stream Dragon, activating its effect to restore their LP, the pain he, Luna and Jack felt disappeared..." etc. into the main article, or something else that doesn't directly imply anyone of being responsible for whatever happened?PoirotH (talk • contribs) 05:27, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough. Though I think it should be better expressed than the example I made, but I just can't think of a good sentence.PoirotH (talk • contribs) 05:34, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Alright I think I have solution. What do you guys think(no I am not saying he has psychic powers, I am simply saying the damage he inlicted on Lucciano and Aporia is much like that of a psychic duelist, that does not mean that he is a psychic duelist)?

Although these hints only occur in the second season, it is shown that Leo may have some sort of ability(it is currently unknown however). During His and Luna's fight with Lester, Lester doesn't even flinch from Luna's attack, and simply brushes it off, despite the damage being real. When Leo inflicted damage on him, Lester groaned and looked pained. During the fight with Aporia, throughout the duel Aporia felt no pain (it is to be noted that Aporia did not feel pain even from his own Trap Card). When Leo attacks, Aporia yells in pain, indicating that Leo inflicted real damage, much like that of a Psychic Duelist. It is interesting to note that both times Leo seemed to inflict actuall damage, he had a desire to hurt his opponet in order to protect Luna(simaler to how Akiza's powers were born, as they came from anger and rage, and a desire to inflict pain on others). After Leo gains Life Stream Dragon, it healed the team(it is not known however if it was Lifestream Dragons doing), much like what Akiza's dragon did in episode 140.Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 13:43, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Move
Could you rename the following image? --The Goblin (talk • contribs) 16:04, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

File:XyzWait-JP-Anime-ZX.jpg → File:XyzWeight-JP-Anime-ZX.jpg

What you said on Leo's talk page.
I said on the talk page that I agree with your compromise. Where exactly do you want (what's above) this to be put? I would do it, but PoirotH will just take it out, so I'd rather you did it instead.Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 17:06, August 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * I am agreeing with Shard, since you showed him some respect by give it a solution while Poirot just have a troll nomnoming on his brain at this minute. I am pretty sure Poirot is taking some personality from Blue back when I remembered him. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:09, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Apoligy.
Sorry about that, I only did what you said. I thought you ment to put all of it in his biogragphy section (my mistake). Do you want me to put at the top where it mentions he was once a signer, something like "For unexplained reasons, he seemed to be able to hurt both Lester and Aporia(below)". Maybe it's a bit much, but I just thought I'd ask. By the way, where would the part that mentions the fact that both times Leo seemed to inflict actuall damage, he had a desire to hurt his opponet in order to protect Luna (much like Akiza, as she inflicted damage through rage, and a desire to hurt/inflict pain on others)?Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 00:38, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Wasn't Dude...
Look like he's one big stubborn editor on the site, he just shoved them back in though you told him not to do so. How about mark him some warning and get over with it? That usually work on most users. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:30, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Look like my word had finally reach to him and ceased his action from editing anything further than his stupidity. Now I need to popping my wrist back in the place because I am sure I hit little too hard on the side. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:51, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Move
Could you rename the following file? --The Goblin (talk • contribs) 20:19, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

File:ThunderShotGENF-JP-C.jpg → File:ThunderShortGENF-JP-C.jpg

Nicknames
Should we Japanese honorifics (aniki, onisan...) count as charachters' nicknames or not? --The Goblin (talk • contribs) 17:35, August 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your opinion. I'll remove them from the corresponding characters' articles. --The Goblin (talk • contribs) 00:46, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Anime card names.

 * Yeah, so it was still wrong. Either way, thanks for the heads up.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 00:53, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Archetype names and quotation marks
I was wondering, while referring to Archetypes on trivia pages, do we put them in quotation marks or not? Would I say "Amazoness" monsters or Amazoness monsters? I asked Fredcat, but he's apparently on 7 day time out. Thanks. Golden Key (talk • contribs) 01:31, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clearing that up. Golden Key (talk • contribs) 01:40, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Question.
I was wondering if you would be okay with me putting something in Luna's bio(it's at the bottom of my talk page)?Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 19:10, August 18, 2011 (UTC)