User talk:Deltaneos

Set page properties
Do you have any comments/suggestions/additions for the properties listed on Set Details (can you point out any that are used but aren't listed there yet)? I'm wondering in particular if there's really any reason to have set-specific properties for various-language names, as opposed to just using the same properties we already use for card names; if we should prefer "Worldwide English" or just "English" for properties dealing with Worldwide English info; and what your thoughts are on the Set Prefix/Set and Region Prefix distinction. The Name and Prefix properties, in particular, are going to be used on Set (as you can (partially) see with Set/Legend of Blue Eyes White Dragon), and the Prefix properties are being demoed on Legend of Blue Eyes White Dragon. Thoughts? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:20, January 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that page should be in the project namespace at least.
 * I can't think of or find anything that's missing. Do you know what the difference between "Language Set Names" and "Actual Language Set Names" is? I'd have thought one would be for the name in the language's native writing system and the other would be for it translated to or wrote phonetically in English, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
 * The naming is just the way TwoTailedFox set it up. I guess it was to avoid getting cards appearing in set queries and vice-versa. Although other items could be easily added to the query to make that distinction.
 * I would say just use "English" rather than "Worldwide English" in the property names.
 * I don't quite understand the need for the individual set subpages of Template:Set. Is it not possible to get all the necessary information automatically? -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:18, January 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I stumbled upon that page already existing there; I didn't think about moving it, but in retrospect, that makes a lot of sense.
 * No idea. TwoTailedFox is the one who set them up, as you said, and since he's not around anymore, we can't really ask him (do you have any idea why he up and left, or what may have been occupying his time more recently?). Since I'm suggesting changing property names anyways (that's what the arrows signify), we could simply replace "Actual X Set Names" with "[Phonetic/Transliterated] X Set Names" and "Translated X Set Names". Are we at all interested in unofficial set names, BTW (and, if so, in what languages)?
 * How expensive is it to query a concept which uses two properties, as opposed to just querying the raw properties? If it's less expensive, we could use concepts for those queries (and we should start using concepts for other complex queries as well).
 * That sounds reasonable. Would you prefer "English" or "Worldwide English" as labels on OCG-TCG set table/block (that's still really rough BTW; I have yet to add any conditional hiding or most of the properties)?
 * I've been learning about SMW pretty much concurrently with the development of Set, and recently came to the realization myself that I could probably replace the whole subpage system with one compact template, depending on how complex it is to achieve arbitrary property-property pairings (since I want to allow users to pass in a set's name in any [official, currently] language and be able to get that set's name or its set prefix/set+region prefix for any language, or the raw pagename). At this point, the two main advantages to the subpage system are, since the value passed to Set is converted pretty much straight into a subpage name, being able to use common misspellings ("Legend of Blue-Eyes White Dragon" is probably a pretty common misspelling, for instance) once the necessary redirect is created; and having an auto-generated table displaying all that available info in a straightforward, compact manner. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:04, January 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Back when he left, I think he didn't have a steady internet connection. I'm not sure why he still doesn't edit, not that he should be obliged to. If you want to try contact him, he seems to have logged in earlier this month. (Sorry, that page isn't working in Monobook right now.) I don't know what's occupying his time more recently, but he seems to be playing some World of Warcraft.
 * I don't think there's much need to add properties for unofficial set names. I can't think of many unless you count mistakes, such as mistranslations or adding the hyphen to Legend of Blue Eyes White Dragon.
 * I don't think query expense can be determined just by the number of properties in the query. If you add  to the a query, it gives you some information. The Query-Size and Query-Depth that that gives are the true measures. I think we were told that anything close to 12 and 4 respectively are too high.
 * The naming on the labels of OCG-TCG set table/block may depend. Will North American/European/Australian English be displayed if they are the same as English? -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:37, January 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I may try emailing him at some point (assuming he has an email address associated with his account); it'd be cool seeing him around again.
 * That's what I was thinking. We could have an "Alternate X Names" parameter for such mistakes/mistranslations/etc. if you think they're worth noting.
 * I didn't think it'd be that straightforward. Do you know if the "stay-under" values for Query-Size and Query-Depth have changed any between the old SMW version and the one we just got upgraded to?
 * I haven't decided that just yet. No matter what, if NA/EU/AU names aren't specified, they'll probably default to the EN name, at least in the respective properties (especially since I don't know of any case where these names differ; on the other hand, maybe we don't want to set properties for sets that haven't been released in the corresponding region?). The main reasons they have separate parameters at all is for consistency across parameters, and just in case there is a set with different English-region names.
 * This would be a good time to spell out exactly when a given region release of a set should get its own "block", as opposed to being combined with other regions in a single block. A minimal OCG-TCG distinction is a good rule of thumb, but we don't have absolute assurance that releases will maintain that distinction, when it comes to set release dates and contents (which are the backup metrics I'm considering). At this point, I think the main argument for continuing to separate set info into region-based blocks at all is only for the ability to display more than one region's version of a set's box/pack, and since I'm planning on proposing a set equivalent to Card Galleries, that may end up being a moot argument as well (there may still be a strong argument for separating the info simply to keep everything more understandable and distinguishable at-a-glance, though). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:43, January 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think the permittable Query-Size and Depth are something Wikia sets. The first time SMW was causing major problems, we were told that they set the max sizes for them to 12 and 4, but I couldn't find any pages that went that high, so I assume the safe values are lower. I'd estimate 5 or 6 for Size. Depth doesn't matter, because I've never seen it go above 1. -- Deltaneos (talk) 02:18, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Category:Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
Why was this cat deleted? We have similar categories for the DM and 5D's, so why not GX? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:10, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I see. Well, I guess we can re-create it when there are enough pages that would fit into it. I'll take a look at the 5D's cat sometime and see if that gives me any ideas for pages that GX could use. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:40, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Upon re-reading your response, I think I may have misinterpreted it. You said that the 5D's cat still exists because there are pages in it. Did you mean that it shouldn't have pages in it and it should be removed? Or did you mean that the GX cat did not have enough pages to be useful. If it is the latter, I think we do have enough articles for it, assuming the 5D's cat has valid pages in it currently. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:46, February 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I meant the Yu-Gi-Oh! GX and Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's categories should both be removed. In my opinion anyway. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:39, February 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just a heads-up. 93.86.56.96 has been adding category to quite a few pages. I left him a message about it, but he either ignored it or is unaware of how talk pages work. Not sure if I should revert his edits or not. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:59, February 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * I honestly don't care that much either way. I do think that if the GX one was deleted, the 5D's one should be as well, with the pages it's in currently recategorized. I can see merits for keeping both cats, and merits for deleting them both. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:17, February 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you're planning on creating more GX location articles, I have a suggestion. How do you feel about an article on the island as a whole? "Duel Academy" can really refer to the institution, the island and the main building itself. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:03, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

*poke*
Leon need your help to get his episode appearance back, it's absent. -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 21:50, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, it updated but missed them. So should I put them in then? -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 22:25, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Template
Sorry, I didn't know that it did this. 01:45, February 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yea, that. I thought it was ok since it's used in many other wiki(a)s, and that I didn't see anyone comment on this being done.
 * If it drains the already overdrained servers, then I agree on the deletion. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:06, February 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's okay. Many people are unaware of the excess strain. It isn't a large amount, but is unnecessary and can build up. You can see Wikipedia have even forbidden unsubstituted signature templates. -- Deltaneos (talk) 02:09, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

History Edit Not Showing
I know that's annoy you since we are in different skin page. But I just wanna information ya that the skin I am using (Monoskin or something) has it history page viewing disable. -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 23:49, February 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * That is what I am aware, but it won't revealing the list of user who had editing the article. It just not opening to "show the further history" or something like that. That is what I mean. -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 00:50, February 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * It was on List A-C of decks, so other, I don't know. Since on my skinpage, it never ever show history page droplist (whatever you called it) on User/User Talk. -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 01:06, February 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * I went to Bri Synchron and clicked the history dropdown, it worked now. So at least I informed ya would do any good. -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 01:35, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Forgive me, D-Neos
But Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's World Championship 2011 - Over the Nexus is having problem to keep the site off. Lock it for couple days? -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 02:43, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Gender=male
Because there's a glitch with some genders and some random characters just show up. I don't know if you just need to refresh it or move it one space, but it fixed the glitch. Master D (talk • contribs) 12:30, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Episode staff
脚本/Kyakuhon > Screenplay 絵コンテ/E Konte > Storyboard 作画監督/Sakuga Kantoku > Animation director -- III (talk • contribs) 12:33, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Delete these, or are they salvagable?
I was looking for any proxy images which weren't deleted yet, and apart from the ones in the history of File:TheCreatorGodofLight,Horakhty-JP-Manga.jpg, which aren't deleted, but probably should, I have yet to come across one. Anyways, I also checked for other images, and so far, here's a list of the ones where I'm not sure if they should be deleted, or are salvagable.
 * File:SJ V6 I7-Page362.jpg
 * File:SJ V6 I7-Page370.jpg
 * File:SJ V6 I7-Page366.jpg
 * File:Dark World.png
 * File:Gorilla Thing.png
 * File:Yugioh costume.jpg
 * File:Certificate.JPG
 * File:Busted.jpg
 * File:Cowboy&Himuro.png
 * File:Who's that Pok... card?.png
 * File:GunRemoved.png
 * File:PDS.jpg
 * File:Sol Chevolsky.png

-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:04, February 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've added a few more to the list, If you have time (and don't mind), can you check them as well? Thanks.
 * I've blocked someone for these reasons. Now he's abusing the fact that I didn't block his ability to use the talk page, what should be done? Block the talk page, or Block the troll indefinitely, for trolling, continuous vandalism and attention seeking.
 * Also, there's a User:Cheesedude2; although, after that one incident, it seems like they stopped vandalizing, but according to this "Usernames that are designed to impersonate or attack legitimate users will be blocked immediately and indefinitely." Should they still be blocked, and what should be blocked? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 23:50, February 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, there's a high possibility that 'Cheesedude2' is 174.3.71.35, because that user registered just after Cheesedude locked the page. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:15, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Help with the watchlist!
Hi Deltaneos! Once again I need your help with the Wikia's mechanics. Say that I want to watch every Ruling Page in my Watchlist (so I can prevent vandalism, fake rulings, ect. as soon as possible). I can watch the current existing Ruling Pages simply by having every Ruling Page watched in my Watchlist. But how can I watch also the newly created Ruling Pages? Like how can I note that someone has created Firegrass's Rulings with unofficial/fake Rulings? Is there a way to do this (except to have all those uncreated pages also watched in my Watchlist)? Thanks! ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 09:07, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I see! Thanks a lot man! ATEMVEGETA  (Talk) 12:46, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Machine Imperial Gods
Hey! i was wondering if we could add info from the above page, to the main Machine Emperor page. I left my thoughts on the talk page, and i also contacted Dark-Shimy, who said to contact you. There's already a deletion notice, so I think we should just delete.


 * I wouldn't say merge them with the "Machine Emperor" article. Maybe with the "Machine Imperial" one. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:14, February 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think either is fine. they're basically all the same archtype, but I think since the info. on that particular page is so little, we could just add it to another article. (75.71.136.197 (talk) 22:20, February 4, 2011 (UTC))

File move
Could you please move the File:VortexTheWhirlwindSTOR-SP-UR.jpg to VortextheWhirlwindSTOR-SP-UR-LE.jpg? I'm making the Gallery page. Siguiendo la luna no llegare lejos, tan lejos como se pueda llegar ♫ 23:42, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Breaks
In what instances is it best to use each of these: , and ? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:18, February 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actual usage is a bit more nuanced than this, but generally, the first and third should be used after floating content (infoboxes and such) if they are breaking the page layout (overlapping with text or other page elements). The second should be used anywhere else a single line break is wanted. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:31, February 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * adds a linebreak.
 * (which on this site is, unlike other wikis) adds extra whitespace such that any headers or tables used below floating content (e.g. images and infoboxes) appear below them and use the fullwidth of the page, rather than appear beside them or overlap them.
 * is a mixture of the above two. "all" can be replaced with "left" or "right" to only apply it to one side of the page.
 * is usually used to stop images and headers interfering. It's placed just above the header.
 * and sometimes  are usually used to add a space between infoboxes or record boxes and navboxes or Decklists. They're also sometimes used instead of , since it can't be used for one side only.
 * -- Deltaneos (talk) 02:52, February 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just a markup note, "clear=[right/left/both]" on br tags is deprecated markup; it has been replaced with the "clear: [left/right/both]" CSS attribute as seen in the div tag used for -. The "clear" CSS attribute can actually be applied directly to any block-level element (tables, images, divs) in addition to brs. (and it'd be trivial to change - to allow clearing the specified side; in fact, I'll go make that change now) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:01, February 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Can you go into a bit more detail about what the above means. I'm not familiar with CSS, so I'm not quite sure how to use what you told me about. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 13:22, February 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * In HTML and CSS, some markup becomes deprecated. This means newer software and upgrades won't necessarily support them. e.g. the  tag is considered deprecated. It may still centre text, but when combined with other newer code, it can cause things to break. So alternatives like   should be used instead.
 * In this case the "clear=" in  is deprecated, so   should be used instead. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:45, February 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright, got it. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:16, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

to separate decklists or navboxes. And by usually, I mean all the time, in any given article I edit with multiple decklists. Thanks to both of you. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:11, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I usually use

is fine for separating Decklist and navboxes from each other. It's separating them from infoboxes or result boxes where the clear is necessary. -- Deltaneos (talk) 03:14, February 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Check. Any other instance when the clear is a better option that are likely to be encountered? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:33, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

World Championship Sprites
Should they be uploaded somewhere, like the galleries? For example:, ,. They are official Sprites, used in the World Championship games, and quite a few of them show more of the monster than the card itself. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:09, February 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, I'll also add a note to the Trivia if the image contains something surprising (like what was already done for Card Trivia:Timeater). Two other things:
 * 1) Is the file name extension (VG-WCS-EN.png) alright?
 * VG-WCS being Video Game - World Championship Sprites (Although WCS by itself is already used for a TCG set);
 * and since the games should share the same sprites, and that I'm not entirely sure which WC game the sprites are from (in a mixed folder, so it's not WC09, WC08, etc) (Then again, the Tag Force card images are shared, yet we split them into TF03, TF04, TF05)
 * 2) On the topic of VG images, I've noticed this for a while (since WC09 images), but never really thought about it.
 * Is there a reason for uploading slightly resized images (e.g. File:Jack-TF05.png, File:Cheerleader-TF05.png)?
 * compared to images in their native resolution (e.g. Jack, Cheerleader)
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:39, February 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * With that in mind, the image names could be like MysteriousPuppeteerVG-WC-EN-NC.png with a screenshot fair use licence. The NC bit should take care of the bit about them being sprites.
 * I'm just gathering a bunch before I start uploading them. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:28, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Tech Genus -> T.G.
Hi Deltaneos, with Extreme Victory being added to Konami's product page the Tech Genus archetype has been changed to T.G. normally this would result in the Tech Genus page being moved (as you are well aware). However, the product page does refer to the T.G. standing for "Tech Genus" so should the Tech Genus page be moved to "T.G." or left as is with a sentence added that they are also known simply as "T.G." in the TCG? --Trivi-AM (talk) 11:00, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Founder Admin
After see that Dino-Guy update the list, I am sure you're not the Founder of this site, eh? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:11, February 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, User:TwoTailedFox is the founder of this wiki; that can be seen on Special:ListUsers/sysop (assuming it loads). ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:22, February 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * If Two Tailed Fox is the founder why isn't he here. You would think that he would maintain this website every day? Irohanihoheto (talk • contribs) 03:48, February 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * When you start a wiki on Wikia, Wikia will take care of all the hosting and maintenance. Founders don't have much obligations, but are encouraged to start building up content to attract more readers and editors. He did that and was here almost every day for the first four years. That is far longer than the majority of people who start wikis on Wikia. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:01, February 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see, TwoTailedFox is at the top of that list, while D-Neos is like 6th - 7th from the top from what I recalled. But at least, you're nice Admin so far I have known. (you is referring to D-Neos) -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  13:40, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Grannel/Granel
It's spelled "Granel" in the TCG. However, the English video games spell it "Grannel". I know that the main card should be at "Granel", but what about the pieces like "Top" and "Attack". Should they be moved as well, or do we go with the video game name since they're not real cards? On another note, "Doma" is a disambiguation page. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:17, February 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wow, that's one hell of a naming flub with "Archfiend Mirror". Terrible. Anyway, I'll leave them at "Grannel" for right now. I'll probably move them tomorrow when I have the patience to do so (and a three-hour gap between classes I have nothing to do during). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:00, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Tenses
What tense are we supposed to use in storyline articles?

I was talking about the characters mostly. It's just so confusing. 16:40, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a ton. I'll get right to fixing stuff then.

Is this good? I fixed many, many, grammatical errors, and I set the tense to past for the storyline and background as it was in the past. 17:08, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Video game decklists
Do you see any reason we should not add vg decklists to articles based on the FAQs at GameFAQs? Generally speaking, if something is blatantly wrong there, someone reports it and the FAQ gets taken down. So I don't have any reason to distrust the info in the FAQs, aside from capitalization and spelling issues. If you have no objections, I may begin doing this. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:16, February 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Heh, yeah I realize that they can't claim copyright on the lists. I wrote an FAQ for a game years back, and included one of those copyright notices myself. Years later, I look at it and it sounds very dumb, nor do I care if anyone copies the info. Alright then. I seem to have a very big tendency to start about five different projects and never finish any of them. So the video game decklists can be another one for that list. And thanks for the clarification on tenses at BobaFett's talk page. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:39, February 18, 2011 (UTC)