Forum:Zombie master effect

okay, my question is this: i have been told so many things about zombie master and lumina by multiple sources and official judges( at regionals and a shonen jump) that i don't know what actually happens. i know that in the database here it says that if i activate zmasters effect and an effect like bottomless or book of moon makes him no longer on the field he can't special the monster but lumina can. is this really the case because the head judge at the jump told me it is not true, both will still get their effects to special out monsters. also he said dont go by what off sites like wikia say because they are not "official Rulings sites" and then refused to inform me of what was " official" and if it is true that zmaster does not while lumina does could someone explain to me why. i am an avid player of zombies and would like to get my rulings straight. thank you. Lord eriee 12:52, November 1, 2009 (UTC)