Talk:Number holder

Name
This term i.e. Kaito's nickname was introduced in episode 13 not episode 14. --Aged Goblin (talk • contribs) 01:29, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Jin
I removed him since the article says Numbers Hunters are immune to the Numbers. Jin is obviously not. --93.87.169.107 (talk) 18:20, August 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Jin was never Number Hunter, he's his own character, unlike Rare Hunter. So I am glad you get him out. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  18:55, August 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've just read the script for the latest episode. He claims being a NH working for Kaito. --The Goblin (talk • contribs) 01:40, August 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Then why is he being possessing, if one mentioned to be immune to the Numbers' affection? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:54, August 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * The show never said that Numbers Hunters are immune to the effects of Numbers. It just so happens that the first two that we knew about were. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:04, August 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Jin will obviously lose and Yuma will take his Numbers, so, will he be removed, added to a new list called "Former Numbers Hunters" or just change his Numbers count to 0?


 * I think the count can stay and we can just make a new column that lists each Hunter as "active" or "inactive". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:43, August 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Or maybe Active/Defeated? Anyone who loses their Numbers won't want any more Numbers as seen with Shark. If the list says Inactive means that Hunter might try to hunt numbers again.


 * Shouldn't "Utopia Ray" be counted like Yuma's tenth Number? --The Goblin (talk • contribs) 19:43, August 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's pretty clearly not one of the 100 Numbers, since it has the same number as the regular Utopia. So I would say no. We also don't know that Yuma will continue to have access to it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:45, August 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Then explain why the hell does Yuma holding a card that featured Alternate version of Utopia? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:59, August 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Astral seemed to create out from the ship-thing in the Emperor's Key. We don't know that Yuma gets to keep it. It could be similar to Majestic Dragon. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:10, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * But Yusei gets SAVIOR dragon when he needs it, so Astral will obviously give Yuma C39 whenever he needs it.


 * While "Utopia Ray" may be a "Number", I don't think that it will count towards the 100 "Number" card limit. This is because each "Number" is a memory of Astral.  He only created the "Chaos Number" because of his strong feelings of friendship (and no new memories were gained). However, this is still uncertain, until we see the next time that Astral goes and visits the Emperor's Key to unlock new memories. Plus, now with the existence of a "Chaos Number", we must not rule out the possibility of other "Chaos Numbers".


 * I also believe that Jin should count as a Number Hunter, since he said "I will hunt for your Numbers." As far as I can tell, no other "Numbers" holder has said that, except for Kaito (who declared himself as a Numbers Hunter). --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 23:40, August 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Exactly. Yeah, I'm sure he'll use it again. But it's not an actual "Number", since there is no connected memory or anything like that. It's just an alternate form of Hope. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:49, August 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * So if Astral keep up with "Chaos" Number, then I would be sure there will be 200 "Numbers" instead. First hundred is for Original "Number" while second is for "Chaos". -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:54, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I doubt they will be more Chaos Numbers. Utopia was made to Chaos as a upgrade version to him which is common for the protagonists' Signature cards as we all have seen. DracoX (talk • contribs) 20:11, August 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yea, yea, look at this dragon for reason, and Yuma will using more Chaos once he obtain certain Numbers. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:13, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Unless they want that probabaly, but Utopia is the only Number Yuma uses because that's his ace monster. DracoX (talk • contribs) 20:15, August 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Partially true. Although "Utopia" is his ace, it doesnt mean it's the only Number Yuma used. He also played "Leviathan Dragon" a few times. --The Goblin (talk • contribs) 20:21, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * As well as Gold Rat - It's like Yusei playing all Signer Dragons at nearly end of 5D's show (while playing against Z-one) -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:23, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hunters listing

 * The "defeated" should be changed to "Eliminated". Jin showed that even if someone loses a duel with Numbers, the winner only takes the Numbers the loser had during the duel, otherwise Yuma would also have taken the Number Jin had hidden. Also, Tetsuo could be included in a "Temporary Numbers Hunters" or something. 201.192.44.110 (talk) 22:53, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

There should be a "Temporary Numbers Hunters" section on the Numbers Hunters Page.

Shark
Both of you stop. If you continue, I'll lock the article and neither of you will be able to edit it. Discuss it here and see what others think. Stop edit warring. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:04, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm doing my best to try and stop this. I'm sorry for anything wrong I've done but he won't listen to reason. Jamesfury (talk • contribs) 02:06, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm just saying that Ryoga should be placed on there. But why don't we just leave the page alone and let other contributers decide.


 * That's what the talk page is for. Seeing what everyone else thinks. Let me make something perfectly clear to both of you. It doesn't matter which of you right. You're edit warring. If you continue, I'll lock the article.
 * In any case, I don't think that Ryoga should be listed. Perhaps he deserves a mention in the prose, but not the chart. Mention that he sort of "hunted" Numbers. Can you both agree to that, perhaps? Or do either of you (or anyone else) have a compromise in mind? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:11, September 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that mentioning him is something I can agree with, but He shouldn't be put in the chart because he has no way of Taking Numbers nor does He want them. Jamesfury (talk • contribs) 02:15, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Fine, I'll admit that but I still think he should be on the page.

I might have an idea. --Firered16 SA (talk • contribs) 02:18, September 13, 2011 (UTC)