Forum:Deck Guide

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Deck Guides
As you all know (hopefully), Bluedog, Blue-Eyes White Kid, and I have started a page where we help create/edit decks submitted to us on our page. While on this page, a user (Phoenixdrakenfire), suggested that, as experienced deck builders, we could create guides for those who are less skilled. These deck guides would be in depth guides, written by experienced duelists/deckbuilders, that describe how to use/build a type of deck such as Dinosaur, Yubel, Diamond Dude Turbo, and many others (hybrids would go under their strongest base. ex - Twilight would go under Lightsworn). The guides would explain how a deck works, their strengths and weaknesses, and would provide different examples and variants of the deck type. These guides would hopefully be in the forums under their own section (similar to Weekly Deck Contest or the Duel Terminal) and would have a designated area for duelists to post their own ideas to further better the guides. If you've been invited here it means that I think that your deckbuilding/knowledge is of a high enough standard that it should be used by duelists all of the globe. Would you be interested in helping? Please understand that this will be a massive undertaking. --Tantara 00:45, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Sign Up and Deck Selection
Please note that only those who are invited may sign up. --Tantara 03:19, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Tantara - Fairy Guide
 * Blue-Eyes White Kid - Gladiator Beast Guide
 * Bluedog187
 * Runer5h
 * Gadjiltron - Macro Guide
 * Trivi-AM
 * Darth Covah - Lightsworn Guide
 * Messengerofthedark (Active, but busy most of the time)

Links

 * | Decks to choose from
 * Guide Template is at the bottom of this page. You can make small modifications to this if you'd like (such as adding an "Approximate Cost of Deck" section)

Ideas/Suggestions

 * I've invited Runer, do you guys have anyone you've thought of to invite? --Tantara 20:28, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Messenger of the Dark might be a good choice. Many Weekly Deck Competition members could be good choices.


 * I've just been thinking about him, he could be a good contestant. Which of the WDC competitors do you have in mind? Please remember that this'll be a lot of work. --Tantara 20:36, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Count me in... if at all possible, I'd like Quick Synchro and Monarchs. Runer5h 21:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)Runer5h


 * If allowed, I could post a generic message on all the contestants talk page with a link to Tantara's talk, and - if they are interested - they could then try and register there. How does that sound?
 * Also, once we get this started, I will probably take on the tasks of writing the Gladiator Beast Guide, the Lightsworn Guide, the Zombie Guide, the and Psychic Guide in fair time. I have much knowledge with those decks, along with partial knowledge with several more decks. I am not 'calling' them, I'm just letting you know what decks I can cover.
 * Let's not split up the guides just yet, I've invited messenger. Whoo! I feel like we're the elite! --Tantara 00:40, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Are there any other duelists that could be good contestands? --Tantara 00:42, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, not unlike being the elite. Other ideas for contestants... what about Chris427? He happens to have a deckmaking tutorial already (specifically, a Stone Statue OTK) and it's quite good. Runer5h 00:45, 22 August 2009 (UTC)Runer5h


 * I've thought about Chris as well. I've tried to contact him but he no longer seems to be on. --Tantara 00:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmm... I don't know... Gadjiltron has made a variety of decks, so I guess he might work. Runer5h 01:08, 22 August 2009 (UTC)Runer5h


 * I vote yes on Gadjiltron. He looks solid. --Tantara 01:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * OK. Someone notify him. Runer5h 01:15, 22 August 2009 (UTC)Runer5h


 * I'll do it. --Tantara 01:16, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * BTW, I probably won't have internet access for about a week starting tomorrow (I may be wrong about this). Runer5h 01:17, 22 August 2009 (UTC)Runer5h


 * This is going to be a long term thing, so no worries. If we start, we'll just start on one guide each. --Tantara 01:24, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I've made a page for everyone else to tell us what guides they'd like. --Tantara 03:06, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * How about Trivi-AM? Just look at his decks.
 * Oh yeah, will we be covering OCG decks, like Genex, Ice Barrier, etc.?


 * I'd really rather keep it to TCG (OCG is so much bigger), but that's just my vote. And I like Trivi-AM as well. BEWK, would you invite him? --Tantara 05:15, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey all, I've heard from you and I'd be delighted to join in. --Gadjiltron 09:30, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, let's all pick out one (yes, BEWK, I'm looking at you!) deck on the to create a guide on. BEWK, have you invited Trivi yet? --Tantara 18:55, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Trivi-AM has yet to reply. Does the deck have to be on that page? I will choose Gladiator Beasts.


 * If it's not on the page, add it. I gave the wrong link before, oops. Here's the edited | link Anyone else want to claim a guide? --Tantara 00:27, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll take Macro, I'm experienced in that. --Gadjiltron 05:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * There is something wrong with the link. And as far as choosing a deck, and building a deck guide, how exactly do we cover that? Isn't that exactly what the Deck Types pages do? Messengerofthedark 08:22, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, nevermind, I'm going to withdraw myself. I already have WDC, and am fairly busy, so I don't think that I would have the time, and don't really have the qualifications. Messengerofthedark 08:41, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * It's your choice, but this isn't something that you have to do all at once. I, myself, am going to do my guides on the week ends. The invitation stands if you'd like to rejoin. Darth Covah and Airbellum would like to join. What do you all think of them? --Tantara 14:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Darth Covah, Airbellum, and Blackwingggys would like to join. What do you all think? --Tantara (talk) 22:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I can tell you that Darth's a really good deck builder, he'd be perfect for this sort of thing. (I don't know about Airbellum and Blackwingggys, though, never seen their decks so I can't say much about them) --Bluedog (Talk) 23:19, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll take your word on it and invite Darth. I'm totally neutral on Airbellum but I'm kind of shaky with Blackwingggys (a few of his card choices are TOTALLY random sometimes) --Tantara (talk) 23:27, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Like I said, I don't really know about them, so you and the others should decide. --Bluedog (Talk) 23:43, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Blackwingggys knows what he's doing to the extent of the decks that he's familiar with, which is enough. I say that we invite him. --Tantara (talk) 00:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I say no to Blackwinggys. He needs to show more deckbuilding prowess first. Messengerofthedark 00:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for the invite guys, I won't let you down. As for the other people who want to join (Blackwinggys and Airbellum), here's my opinion:
 * -Blackwinggys indeed seems to show skill in decks he's familiar with, but unless he can take the principles that made one of his deck good and apply them to a deck he's never built before, he needs more practice. I'm not saying he is not good, quite the contrary, but skill in deckbuilding comes with a lot of practice, and he does not seem to have enough of that. Sorry mate, I just don't think you are ready yet.
 * -Airbellum... seeing his page, I don't see anything bad, but I don't see anything extraordinary either. His deck is good, but it is just like all other decks of the GB archetype - it has no personal touch. Also, I see no other examples of deckbuilding from him. Now, his deck is good, and I'm sure he can build decks, but I just can't say how good. I'm afraid you'll need to show us some more stuff mate.

All those being said, I'd like some added info on the guides folks. Is anyone in charge of Lightsworn and Burn guides? Shall I write them? Where will we post them? --Darth Covah (Talk | Contribs) 01:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with Darth Covah. And will we be having a template for the deck guides like this? That is just my idea for deck guide structure. So, Tantara, could you create - or give your opinion for - a satisfactory template for the guides? I do not mean to rush anything.


 * We should get started on this immediately, I added links to the section to select Guides to make as well as the template to the guides. I'll tell Blackwingggys and Airbellum NO then. --Tantara (talk) 18:52, 25 August 2009 (UTC)