Talk:Majestic Red Dragon

Speculation?
This is User:Elemental Hero Kid Neos, this is all I can get for Savior Archfiend Dragon. Some of the details are guesses, like the ATK and DEF. This card's ATK and DEF are, respectively, equal to the ATK and DEF of Red Dragon Archfiend plus half its ATK and DEF, I’m not sure if that will be on the show. If there are any problems let me know.


 * Actually because their guesses this page isnt sustain to exist yet. Since all that info is just speculation, its better left out until the card its actually use on next week´s episode. For now its type and name are all we got, though its the OCG name and not TCG, as we dont know how the english version is gonna be called at the end. DracoX 23:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I suppose it should be deleted because there is no proof. The existence of this card is certain. However, you cannot support the effect. Despite the standards for "Savior" monsters, you cannot assume it has the effect "This card returns to your Extra Deck at the end phase and Special Summon a Red Dragon Archfiend from the graveyard". Also, it is known as "Savior Demon Dragon" in the anime. Naming it "Savior Archfiend Dragon" is also a spectulation that cannot be said for certain. However, the possiblities of this is extremely high. 173.34.86.202 00:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Name

 * Whether its name will be changed to include "Archfiend", can be said for certain, if you know the Japanese name. If the Japanese name we have is correct, then it is not an "Archfiend", because it does not have "デーモン" in its Japanese name. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:41, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * However, to remain consistent with its previous form (Red Dragon Archfiend), it can be assumed greatly that will contain some aspect of its name, other than Dragon. The English edits have called some cards a certain name, regardless of the Japanese name, ex. Frog the Jam. If it is a demon, or devil, it is extremely likely that its name will be changed to Archfiend. Messengerofthedark 21:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)Messengerofthedark


 * Wouldn't a more logical translation be "Savior Dragon Archfiend"?


 * No. See above, it doesn't have "デーモン" in its Japanese name, so "Archfiend" support cards will not work on it in the Japanese version. "Frog the Jam" has "Frog" in its name because it was released before the "Frog" support cards. They did not know they would have "Frog" support cards at the time and when they made them, they were able to add other than "Frog the Jam" to the texts. The only way it will have Archfiend in its English name is if we have the wrong Japanese name. -- Deltaneos (talk) 10:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The wouldn't a temporary proper name be Savior Fiend's Dragon? Messengerofthedark 02:26, 16 May 2009 (UTC)Messengerofthedark


 * Not necessarily. The Japanese term for Fiend(-Type) is " 悪(あく)魔(ま)族</rb>(</rp>ぞく</rt>)</rp> ", pronounced "Akumazoku", which is the Japanese word for "Demon". This card's name uses "デモン", which is pronounced close to "Demon". One is the actual Japanese name for "Demon", the other is the English word "Demon" wrote in Japanese characters. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:38, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi!, I think that it would be more like the Stardust Savior version, becaus it is called Savior Star Dragon becomen the Star, like the Red on Red Dragon Archfiend, I think it will be traduced as Savior Red Dragon, but nothing like Demon, Fiend nor Archfiend (Sorry with my english, I'm from Chile, I usually don't talk English). BYE :D


 * Could it possibly make its way to the TCG as Savior Daemons Dragon? It would not be pronounced like demon, but rather like day-mon? If it isn't a fiend or an Archfiend, then what are we left with? Messengerofthedark 04:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)Messengerofthedark


 * I note that the current name for the page is ideal; not only does it truly reflect the actual name known so far, but it also fits the kana, never we mind the OCG's own use of "デモン" in cards beforehand.

Take heed that I specified "デモン" rather than "デーモン"; The OCG does have at least one use of "デモン" - although possibly only in Furigana. Refer to "Split Demon Rose" - probably here as "Regenerating Rose". 136.227.2.81 16:36, 22 May 2009 (UTC) Atem

Stop making changes to this card please
Please leave the Atk/Def/Star Level/Card Number/Effect/Etc with "?'s" please, Because until next wednesday (May 20th) we won't know any information on Red Dragon's Savior Form~MEOW~ Might of the BIRD Empire 19:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Real ATK value?
Asukatenjouin 05:34, 21 May 2009 (UTC) I think there's something wrong with the ATK value. I saw from the picture before this article's picture that its ATK is 4000. Is it just me?

Effect details
I'm User:Elemental Hero Kid Neos. When I look at the Japanese letters on "Savior Demon Dragon" and "Savior Star Dragon", they both have the same letters on the last row and a bit on the second to last, so I'm guessing that "Savior Demon Dragon" as the Return to the Extra Deck and Summon it's Regular form from the Graveyard.

Release date
118.136.125.44 07:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC) How do you know that this card will be released in Stardust Overdrive?

Just specualtion, as until now it hasnt been confirmed if it release on this booster. DracoX 17:44, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Name...
Why not "Savior Archfiend Dragon" or "Savior Dragon Archfiend"?? :) Abe Storm 17:52, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Because it's not an Archfiend

savior archfiend dragon
why are they making these savior cards they are so hard to summon it is like a .0000000000000000000000000002 chance of summoning this cards. the summoning requirements are so hard that there effects dont make up for.--Airbellum 22:34, 6 June 2009 (UTC)