Forum:Divine Knight Ishzark & DMoC

My friend and I keep arguing over this and I want to find out once and for all. For 'Divine Knight Ishzark' and 'Dark Magician of Chaos' their effects say, "Any monster this card destroys by battle is removed from play" and "A monster that is destroyed by this monster as a result of battle is removed from play instead of going to the graveyard". We both know that monsters whose effect's activate when they hit the graveyard don't activate. What we keep disagreeing about is whether or not flip effect monsters effect's activate. I say yes and he says no. They're still being flipped dispite where they end up afterwards. Please let me know what is right. Thanks. Mastermind6656 21:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)