Forum:Set page redesign

The current format for set pages was introduced nearly six years ago. A couple of changes have been made since then, mainly the inclusion of links to list, gallery and ratio pages and the ambiguity of whether or not to include lists on the set page as well as the list pages or not. Six years later, I think it might be time for an update.

One of the big faults with the old format is that it uses HTML tables to layout the page. Using tables for anything other than tabular data is generally bad practice. You can see Tableless web design if you want to find out why. Theoretically, we could use CSS instead of tables to get the set pages to appear visually the same as they are now, but I think it's still time to move away from the old format.

I've set up an example of what it could look like.
 * suggested version
 * current version

It uses an infobox and sections. I think it's less crammed this way. It should also be easier to edit and update pages, if we make a proper set infobox.

The lists were a problem. When we just gave links to the lists pages, a lot of people didn't see the links or know what they were for. Some people were in favour of posting the lists on the main set page as well as the separate pages, while others weren't. Also if people weren't seeing the lists links, they probably weren't seeing the gallery or ratio ones either. I think the lists links are more obvious in this setup. I think the links are more obvious in this format. The lists pages are also transcluded, onto the main page inside a set of tabs for each language, so you can view them without leaving the page and we don't have to do duplicate work. I'd considered a set of tabs for each gallery too, but I thought it might drastically slow down the page load on some computers and make the page very long if one has JavaScript disabled.

So yeah, it's just a suggestion, so if you like it, hate it, have a question or have a suggestion please comment. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:39, July 10, 2012 (UTC)