Forum:Spell counter rulings

If I have a monster that requiers spell counters, like Skill dark magician but he has 0 counters and I have magical citadel of endymion with 10 counters. Can I remove 3 counters from the field card with skill having 0 counters?

and with breaker the magical warrior can I do the same or the monster must have the counters already to remove from him??