User talk:Master D

Hello
Hello Master D, your user page was vandilised (I'm assuming from what it said) So I fixed it for you, have a nice time on the wikia!--Berfomet (talk • contribs) 08:50, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Solemn Fetter

 * Why did you move it back to "Divine Fetter"? Did you not even bother to READ the talk page?--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 20:33, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

machine emperor 4
how did you know the 4 emperor is a synchro?

ssjgohan
hi the page you post in yugioh 5d is  wrong  i put in tag force 4  i did not get  Leo (Academy version what is going on way did not get him and how do get luna  (Academy version there is no tag force 3 out here in us i want her leo but  i did not unlcok them use   the tag force games like you said  so  tell me  the true way on how to get them  want to duel them when they have that ofutit on but it not there

Continuous Trap Equip Cards
(regarding the effect of Hardship)Uh-uh. You are wrong my friend. If you had actually looked up Metalmorph and Blast with Chain, you would have seen that they are NOT Continuous Trap Cards, just Normal Trap Cards. I know this wikia more than you do, and believe me, there has yet to be a Continuous Trap Card with an effect that treats itself as an Equip Card. Leave the anime effect-editing to me. (this is User:UltimateKuriboh, though not signed in).

Z-One's name change
The reality reason is this; http://www.konami.com/games/ygo5dswc2011 -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 12:52, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Template:Rename
Thank you for moving the "Machine Imperial God" pages. I'm not sure if you're aware, but the template is placed pages to let people know there is a discussion on whether or not to rename the pages. It's not necessarily an instruction to rename the page.

Normally pages can be moved without discussing it, but in some cases where other people might not agree with the rename is used.

It didn't matter in this case, since most people seemed to be in favour of the rename. Next time you see used, could you check the discussion on the talk page before considering moving it. If you did that this time, that's okay. Thank you. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:10, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Endure Soul
I saw you moved the article from "Enduro Soul" to "Endure Soul". Can you take your time to visit the link above and comment for the renamed? Thank you. Blackwings0605 (talk) 06:46, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

gender =male
Why are you removing the space after the equals sign for characters' genders? -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:26, February 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see. I think I understand what happened. SMW was disabled recently. That can cause pages to appear broken. You probably found those pages after SMW had been reenabled, but the effects were still visible. Editing the page (regardless of what changes you make) is one way of clearing the page's cache and forcing the newest version to show. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:41, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Just curious about where found the romaji for translations at.
I've searched everywhere online, or so I thought, for the romaji translations for translating things into Japanese easily without the kanji. So I'm just curious as to what site you found it at.--elementalknight (talk • contribs) 01:13, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much.--elementalknight (talk • contribs) 17:23, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Number 17: Leviath Dragon
We're all having a discussion about the name on the Talk Page. Please do not remove the Alternate Name until the talk has come to a unanimous decision. Wilimut Talk Mail Paris, 20:23, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ninjutsu/Ninjitsu
Considering "Ninjitsu Art of Decoy" and "Ninjitsu Art of Transformation" mispell it, that would indicate that the anime cards will probably be spelled that way too. There is a discussion about this here. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:27, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I failed to notice exactly what you had last moved them to until after I left you that message. Cheesedude (talk • contribs)

Re:Utopia
Interesting. However, I've literally never seen anyone translate that particular card as "King". I've always seen it as "Emperor" or "Lord". All other cards on this wiki using that romaji using King is a good enough reason for me though. Go ahead with it. You may want to add a hidden note next to the translation with your reasoning to deter it from being changed. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:22, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Legendary Dragons
Thats Not Their LoreK.O.L.O (talk • contribs) 02:47, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm willing to compromise. I know they have no offical lore and i agree with you, but the edit seemed to some people as a spam.K.O.L.O (talk • contribs) 22:09, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Card lores
Since you edit them quite a bit, I thought I'd leave this here. See Yu-Gi-Oh!: Manual of Style. Terms like "Effect Monster" and "Armor Monster" should have the "monster" capitalized. Monster by it itself (ie. Destroy 1 mosnter your opponent controls) does not get caps. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:41, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yup you're right. Epic admin fail. Carry on. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:48, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Jin's Dance cards
Where are you getting those names from? If those are the correct translation, then fine, but you need to remove the "trans" parameter. If it's from an English source, then you can remove the unofficial name template. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:27, September 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * If I recall right, you moved the other cards too. Anyway, that's good for enough. In the future, I'd suggest that you put your explanation in the edit summary. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 14:07, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Video game card lores
For cards that appear in the anime and video games, but not in the OCG/TCG, the regular lore parameter should be an adaptation of the most recent video game lore. The video game lores take precedence, since you can actually use the cards there. See Forum:Video game card list (and add to the list if you know of any). Thanks, Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:58, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

LIghtpulsar Dragon
I changed it to IF since in its text, it says 場合, which says IF not when, otherwise it would have been 時 for WHEN, right? LastMinute (talk • contribs) 01:18, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Gambler Deck
Nice Deck idea about a gambler deck most gamblers in Yugioh are spellcasters. I have been thinking about this theme myself too for some time, I decided for myself i didn't like the play style involved and the risk while playing such a deck.

GL Depreved Warrior (talk • contribs) 16:46, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

String Devil and Drum Devil.
I specifically put a link to Talk:String Fiend Itchy Rhythm in my edit summary when I created the other article so that it would not be moved without discussion. Then you moved it without discussion. Please comment at that discussion with your reasoning, if you would. Thanks, Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:37, October 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's sound enough reasoning for me. Please post that on the talk page I linked you to. I don't have a counter to that, someone else may. We need to see what consensus is for this, since it seems like there's going to more of them at this rate. May as well figure it out now. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:51, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Evolzar chants
Hey, i just saw you chants about the evolzar and i came here to say that they look awesome, truly one of the best I've seen. keep it up.-- Shiker the Phoenix King  and the King Emperor (Talk) 22:26, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Well besides the evolzar chant, i really like the numbers chant, it cool.-- Shiker the Phoenix King  and the King Emperor (Talk) 00:10, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Spiritual Light Art?
What in the blaze of that you just doing? Why not just let it "Spiritual Light Art" instead of that new name? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:25, February 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, go and fixing the Charmer page because Dino just updating it with what he changed. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:30, February 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Then wait till Konami pull that out of their asses. Just don't rush yourself ahead ^_^ And thank you for having a discuss with me. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:36, February 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * If I may interject here, "Spiritual [Element] Art" is the "older" name used for the original Four Elements sub-series; Dharc's "Spirit Art" card does use a more logical name (and was the most recent one to be released): "Dark Spirit Art - Greed". There are certain things that suggest "Greed" isn't actually supposed to be part of this series (mainly, that Dharc doesn't appear in its artwork, whereas the other Charmers all appear in their respective "Spirit Art" cards), but I'm not sure if that's actually the case. Personally, my money's on "Hijiri" being named "Light Spirit Art - Hijiri" when it's released in the TCG. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:21, February 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's the reason why I told him to wait till it official TCG release before shove it up here. But you're correct - Greed ain't one of them, though has topic same as them. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:24, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

Thunderclap Knight - Gaia Dragoon
What you say is true, but chiten no kishi doesn't mean Universal Force either. Same with daichi no kishi and so on. I just tried to approximate the TCG translation. Lon3wolf (talk • contribs) 17:26, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Dian
Ok, fair enough. Heh, I didn't pick up the diamond connection. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:36, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Misspell
Thank you for spot that - I didn't notice the one like of that early. I went ahead and gave more details of what you were pointing on in that talk page. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:53, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Spiritual Art Light? Round 2
Now look who's wrong? -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:49, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright... In previous round, you sound like you think that was such to be that way... -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:14, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

Nitwit Outwit Japanese translation
Hey, I was discussing with User:Cheesedude about the translated name for Nitwit Outwit about changing from "Curious Schemes" to "Clever Schemes" in Talk:Nitwit Outwit, and he/she said that you're the one who came up with this idea. LastMinute (talk • contribs) 03:04, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Cerperus
Why do you think "Peropero Kerperos" is more appropriate than "Licking Cerperus"? We should not put card names in the original Japanese, they should be translated, and the "Unofficial name" template should be added. We always do that. LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 20:54, May 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * I see. Then, shouldn't it be "Peropero Cerperus"? LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 21:11, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Don't know if you've seen this.
Check out Forum:Offer of affiliation from our sources. Any opinions on the matter would be appreciated, especially one from someone who has knowledge of Japanese like yourself. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:56, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Parameter
If you remove what's in the "trans" parameter, please just remove the parameter itself and not just the translation. Leaving it in encourages people to re-add incorrect translations. Thanks, Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 14:22, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

Request
If you ever change a translation, please be sure the new term redirects to the page. For example, you changed the translation for "Owner's Seal". Create a new page called "Owner's Carved Seal" and redirect it to "Owner's Seal". Translations should always redirect. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:12, June 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Trust me, if there was a way to automatically do that, we'd have done it long ago. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:22, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Red Nova in Toonzai subs
I see you've moved a number of cards to their names used in the Toonzai subtitles. Do you know if "Scar-Red Nova" is called "Red Nova" in those subtitles? That's the name used here because its consistent with how "Scar-Red Nova Dragon" got changed to "Red Nova Dragon". Can you confirm if it's also been used officially? Thanks. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:12, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Card names and Yu-Gi-Oh terminology is based on the TCG, but characters and places retain their Japanese names. They call it Red Nova Dragon; they use their own translations for cards, just like the dub. Mad Rest 15:38, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright. Thanks. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:59, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

Kana
Why are you changing card names on all cards written in kana? I've asked several speakers of Japanese and they've all said that that's not how its supposed to be done, unless we're talking about names ("Fortune Lady Light", for example). You can see a discussion about it here. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:59, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Could you explain your reasoning at the discussion I linked too? Maybe then we'll understand where you're coming from a bit better. I'm not trying to march in and just say "no, you're wrong!". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:24, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Left-/Right- Hand Freak
Why do you dare disagreed with some user that gave a proof about the logical of Left-/Right- names? Why doesn't the logical disapproved!! -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:24, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Still, we have to following the logical of games. If "Left Arm of the Forbidden One" exist, then "Left Hand Shark" must be naming that way, not as "Left-Hand Shark". -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:32, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Please check Talk:Left Hand Shark. I'd like to decide this for once instead of moving and un-moving it each 5 minutes. As I said that, its too troublesome to fix the pages that links to the card article every time. LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 20:36, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agreed with Legenary for once - it's better off without dashes... it's like Doing/Undoing the tip/trivia articles into the Edit Warring. Just let it be for now till we get the volume that publishing their name then we can settle at that time - but not now as we can't control our rage hormones anymore. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:39, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

Masked Doll, etc.
Actually, consensus is NOT to add TCG-esque effects to old anime/manga cards. Please do not do so. We are here to document what the cards say, not what they could say if they were real. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:39, June 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * True, we simply haven't gotten around to fixing all of them yet. The de facto consensus was always to modify them as you have been, but there wasn't any actual discussion about it. When there was a discussion, it was decided not to do so. You can see a discussion about it here. There's some more info buried in the edit history of "Double Attack (Attack Union)".
 * Here's an idea though. I don't have a problem with documenting those modified lores somewhere. Perhaps either on the card trivia pages or on the card lores pages, with an explicit note that the effect was made by editors and is not official.
 * I argue that it causes more confusion to document modified lores on main pages, since it implies they are actual official lores that were actually used, when they are not. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:15, June 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * To expand on this a bit more, consider the following. Where do we draw the line at what to modify to fit real game wording. Prior to the release of "Heroic Revenge Sword", there were no released Trap Cards that equipped themselves to monsters. This was cited as rationale to change all anime/manga only traps that do equip themselves to say "select one monster" instead. Similarly, there was an Equip Spell (whose name I can't recall right now) in R that allowed it to be treated as a Tribute for a Tribute Summon when it was equipped to a monster. That was changed to "the equipped monster can be treated as two Tributes." But those things are unequivocally not what those cards do Are they functional effects with little practical difference? Yes. But that does not make them any less wrong. Where to draw the line is hard to say, which I why I support simply NOT drawing a line and wording the effects as the anime/manga does. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:25, June 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * That is exactly the point. Those cards don't have a valid Yu-Gi-Oh! lore. They were not meant to have one and thus they don't. The anime and manga is not and never was the same as the real game. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:36, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

[炎星皇－チョウライオ]
Can you please tell why you translated [皇] ---> "Empress" for the Flaming Star Lord - Choraio page? HHT  - (Talk to the Turtle) 13:32, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

There you go. Yes, I agree that [皇] should be translated as "Emperor". Next time, you decide to move another page or change translations, please get your facts straight first. HHT  - (Talk to the Turtle) 18:17, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

オオアリクイクイアリ
If you don't understand it, then please don't edit it.

Please read this and this.

The phrase is translated as "Giant Anteater-eating Ant". It's wordplay. HHT  - (Talk to the Turtle) 18:26, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

No Commas
The Japanese Language does have its own punctuations, especially the comma. When the Japanese read [ホーリーナイトパーシアス], what they read is more similar to when English speakers read "Perseus the Holy Knight". In any case, if there is no comma in the name, then please don't add one in the translation. HHT  - (Talk to the Turtle) 06:55, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Lightray Madoor
Goldy is right, you should prove some source to confirming "Lightray Madoor" details. Otherwise, kept your stuffs to yourself please. Thank you - if you respond back, please comment here instead. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:48, August 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * What you're saying actually benefits me. Lightray Madoor doesn't exist as an OCG card. It's the guy who added a translated name the one who needs to "prove some source", not me. Mad Rest 00:51, August 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Then why did I see Goldy commenting you? -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:55, August 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Because, apparently, they still add the OCG names, even without a source. Mad Rest 00:56, August 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * This is no different from a card that's only released in the OCG. It just means the Japanese name is unofficial as opposed to the English one. If it turns out they choose a different name, we change it when that name becomes available, just like any other card. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:27, August 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Like he said, "Lightray Madoor" is only name we know right now - and it can be either level 4 or level 8 (with 3000 DEF) Madoor, but not sure exact which one till they further confirmed it. Lemme say what Bruce told his son: "Patience is virtue". -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  03:45, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Relinquished's lore
I only asked because my opponent believed that it still activate without an Equip card on it - so I was just keep myself in the check by asking that question in the forum. But since you confirmed it, it's become clearer. So thank you for your respond. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:59, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

Bottomless Trap Hole
"Naraku" is not the same thing as "Hell". See here. Its a similar concept, but its not referring to the Christian Hell. When cards refer to that, they do so differently. This would also apply to "Flash of Hell", etc. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:43, September 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'll move the articles and change it now then. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:54, September 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Delta says towards the bottom of this topic that "Naraku" is more acceptable. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:07, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Episodes
If you're going to change the translation in an episode infobox, you need to be doing the same thing to the translation in the first paragraph. Do not leave articles contradicting themselves, please. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:16, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Potential image policy change
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Enginel
Did you bother to read the edit history? Its meant to be a portmanteau of "Engine" and "Angel" (and now that you mention it, probably "Colonel" as well). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 12:11, October 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's not something we can do. We'd have to get Wikia staff to do it and its highly unlikely they would. Put on the article's talk page, then, please. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 12:14, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Wrong Rulings
Alright, do you wish to prove me that all my "rulings" being wrong - go check them in my User Page and pick one of them that you believed to be wrong then I can explanation the reason why it is that way. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:00, October 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * I never said all of your rulings were wrong. But they're impossible to decipher and thereby inapplicable. Mad Rest 22:25, October 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Then prove me why they are "impossible to decipher and thereby inapplicable"? ATEM seemed happily when I post up the correct "decipher" rules, as well as explained to me all what he knew about what they were such to do. If you have no evidence, then shut the hell up and create your article of that translation of your. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:48, October 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Why the hell would I create a separate page for translations? If a translation is wrong, I'll fix it. That's that. Your grammar is horrible; that's why people won't take your rulings seriously or try to understand them. Mad Rest 00:15, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Fine, berated me all you like - my rulings are correct though Konami don't know them yet. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:18, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

(Manga)
Er, I don't agree with that part - as Cheese and Falzar had beating the dead horse repeat with their giant bats, "Manga" is not necessary to be captain if it's within the parentheses beside the card name/show name/character name/ever your own mother's name. Before you send the roof into the space, go ask either Admin for more details of why I disagreed to your recently "moving" post. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:45, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's a title. Everything in a title is capitalized, except for prepositions. Mad Rest 17:47, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Does it printed in the card's "title"? Nope - lowercase it. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:48, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

http://www.writersblock.ca/tips/monthtip/tipmar98.htm The card doesn't matter; this is a title of a page. And you're not from this country; you wouldn't understand how the principles for capitalization work in different countries. Mad Rest 17:50, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * In context to wikias, parenthetical disambiguation is put in lowercase. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 18:04, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, and I'm pretty sure Fred is American; his first language is American sign language. This has caused him some difficulty in grasping word order, etc. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 18:07, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * He's definitely Spanish-speaking. For some reason, Wikipedia only capitalizes the first word of the title; it doesn't matter if it's in parentheses. As the page I linked to says, every word in a title is capitalized, safe for some exceptions. I don't know what kind of system Wikipedia uses, though. Mad Rest 18:15, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Unless the word is a proper noun or a game term that is capitalized in card lore, it should not be capitalized, period. Sentence case should be used. Standard wiki formatting does not necessarily have to coincide with how things are usually written in American English. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:31, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * ¿Mí? Creo que no.
 * On seriously topic, me speak Signing Language what Goldy said. Me know it sound stupid but it's me first language. Cheese did say that so that prove me right. (On the seriously topic, I do speaking American Sign Language, like what Goldy had told you. I know that sound stupid but it's my primary language. Cheese confirmed the point so that proved my above comment right.) -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:31, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh and also this from TwoTailedFox's second-in-command; "Manga" is a common noun. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:39, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Abyss-scale
Actually, I usually do that, but I forgot this time. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 01:47, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

i am really confused of megalo's rulings ..

i summonned megalo by discarding 2 marksman. i targeted 2 trap cards by the effect of marksman. then if megalo landed in the field. would be the trap cards that marksman targeted will be chained ?

hope ull answer my question ..


 * zaijen nilvine


 * Post this on a forum, not here! First, Megalo is Summoned, then the 2 Marksmen are chained to the Summon, so they become Chain Links 1 and 2. Then, if you activate Megalo's Optional Effect, it'll be Chain Link 3. If the 2 Trap Cards are something like Bottomless Trap Hole or Torrential Tribute, your opponent can chain them to the Summon as Chain Link 4 and Chain Link 5. They will resolve first, destroy Abyssmegalo, then you can add 1 Abyss Spell/Trap to your hand (if you used its effect), If both of the Trap Cards were activated, then the Marksmen, which resolve last, will resolve without effect. <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 12:51, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Leviair's Image
I uploaded the better image if that helped you feel better. If it is so, then peace, bro! -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  15:12, November 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Either way, I am sure Goldy will agreeing with me, again. That is best image I can get for this site - so don't force yourself into the ban room with me, ok? Let it go please. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:09, November 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Talk with Goldy and you will know why. It don't matter if it's iPhone or scanner, either way is complete fine! -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:13, November 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just go to the that image file or change your skin to Monobook skin - either will show the latest image that Goldy uploading. No, I am not lying here - I am using the MonoBook skin right now and I have seen Goldy's edit/post image! If you refuse to do them, then just go and do what you can to see it, not change the image back to previous image. Enough already! -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:29, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

From Forum:Page Format Reference: "The English card image takes priority if it is available, and the image of the card from the newest set is preferred. If a card is released in the same set and has multiple rarities, avoid Ultimate Rares and Ghost Rares if possible. The quality of the image does not matter; if it is bad, it should encourage someone to click on the image and then use the 'Upload a new version of this file' button to upload a clearer one." -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 23:21, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

Archrelation
What is your argument for "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" being related to the "Fire King" archetype? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:49, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed with Chessy here, I see nothing about "Fire King" within her name or even her effect. And also, Coffee-dude, you missed a quotation, I put it up for you. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:05, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Aside from its effect, which is similar to "Fire King High Avatar Garunix" (which I don't think is much of a basis for a relation between archetypes), I see nothing relating to Fire Kings. Neos01 (talk • contribs) 17:11, November 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Similar effects have absolutely nothing to do with archrelation at all. Related should be used for cards the support a member of an archetype but not the whole archetype or stuff such as transformed monsters and the like. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:32, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Terror Fang Wolf, Diawolf
The current name of Terror Fang Wolf, Diawolf is not its translated name. His OCG name is Terrorfang Wolf Direwolf (look at shriek.twoday or so). I mean, it's current english name given is still not official. It's the same nonsense as it was done before with Number 92: False Skeletal God Dragon, Heart-eartH Dragon, when its unofficial English name was named in Number 92: Fake-Body God, Heart-eartH Dragon. Of course, Japanese names don't only have one possible meaning, but why isn't used the normal OCG name instead of any name from a forum that is wrong in the end anyway? (e.g. Number 92: Heart-eartH Dragon again) --TheGallisMan (talk • contribs) 02:45, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Notice
Thank you, but I already moved it over to his own article (with his user name included). So don't worry, I am a Mover - if you find him leaving the smelly article behind, just comment my talk page and I will do it immediately (current activation). -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:02, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Barian Lords
I created that page from previews given.
 * バリアン世界の七皇に新たな動きが出ていた this is from episode 80

By the way the whole preview can be seen here DracoX (talk • contribs) 03:51, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Element/Attribute Demoted
I am curious why you wish to remove those articles? They are important article for Charmer and Familiar-Possessed articles and they are necessary to be enlisted and knowledge... -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:52, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * At least it helped some new people to find the right monster, such as "Blazing Hiita", since those monsters don't have their own pages, only Charmer and Familiar-Possessed. If you want them to go, create new articles base on those group of monsters with same effect (but different targets). Or forget delete them to save more energy try to create alternate, your choice. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  15:18, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Stardust Dragon/Exiled Force vs. Soul Drain
Ok, can you please explain the reason why "Soul Drain" can't preventing "Stardust Dragon" from be able to Special Summon back onto the field if the effect was negating successful by that dragon's effect? -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  02:22, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

"Constrec" Element
The card also had this name previously, but... what the hell is "constrec"? :/ Does that word exist? I can't tell for sure since English isn't my native language, but I've never heard of it. *__* LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:22, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. If it's a portmanteau, I guess it'd be "Construct" + "Track" = "Constrack"? But I believe it's just a(nother) case of good'n'old Engrish. Kageyama-sensei probably thought the word "construct" was pronounced in a different way. For example, there's a Japanese song called "wind" (y'know, "wind" is pronounced just as it is written), but the composer probably though it was pronounced "uaind", and made the Furigana "Waindo". LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:31, January 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * torakku, one thing Japanese can't do it put consonants together (despite "n"). Still, it should be just a mistake from Kageyama-sensei. Different from Yoshida-sensei (widely known as Trollshida at NAC), he's not the type of guy addicted to silly puns and portmanteau (thanks god). LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:38, January 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * But, as I said, that's not a translation; the weird pronunciation is just a mistake from the author, whose native language isn't English, and mistook the pronunciation of a word. Adapting English to Japanese is already difficult, even more for someone not used to the language. I don't think Kageyama-sensei had any second meanings or puns in that name, he doesn't use to do things like that (I don't remember having seeing any kinda pun or portmanteau in the whole GX manga). So there's no point on adding a word that doesn't even exist as a translation for the author's mistake. ;) LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:45, January 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * It's not a matter of having or not proof. If I can't prove it's a mistake, you can't prove it isn't either. But, I'm experienced with the Japanese language and I've already seen dozens of cases like this before. If you doubt, ask Ark, from NAC, who's the best JP translator I know and everybody out there trust blindly. As I told you, Kageyama-sensei simply doesn't use puns and portmanteaus. The sounding he used is similar to the actual pronunciation. I was explaining to Cheesedude once how the "English to Japanese" works, and it's a really unstable art. You can't say something is right or wrong 'bout it. For example, the English word "the". If you research about it, you'll note it has lots of adaptations to Japanese, which include "za" and "ji", both which are the most common adaptations in YGO cards (compare for example The Supremacy Sun and Speed Spell - The End of the Storm). If the author thought that was the sounding which got nearer to the English pronunciation, then that's what he'll use. You are assuming that there's a portmanteau there without even knowing which words he could have been uniting. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 01:04, January 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * You're being contradictory. You say "You can't say that this isn't the author's style, and then present it as proof. How do you know the author so perfectly?", but then says "Like I said, the author chose it because he liked how it sounded". I send your words back too you, how do you know he chose it? If I was such a literal translator like you say, I wouldn't be able to translate all of Yuma's stupid cards which are parades of puns and second meanings every month for the ZEXAL manga. I'm not saying I know the author perfectly, I'm saying that in 64 chapters with 31 pages each, he never, not even one single time used a pun or a portmanteau in a card's name (nor anywhere), and due to what I already explained to you about adaptations in Japanese, it perfectly makes more sense that the author thought that sound got closest to the actual sound, instead of that he "created a word" or something. "Construct" totally fits the card's artwork and effect, it was clearly his intentions. You asked me an example of when a Japanese person mistook the pronunciation of an English word, but I already gave you one: Akeboshi or whoever wrote the song "wind" thought it was pronounced "waind" and indicated that pronunciation. Also, the different adaptations of "the". You said "You say 'di end', not 'da end'." Do you that mean that the adaptation "za" is wrong? If so, here you go, second example. We don't really need to keep discussing this for days, c'mon. I don't see why we would list a word that don't even exist as a card's name's translation when it clearly isn't the translation. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:15, January 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * You know that "Tragoedia" is the name of an egyptian Ka, right? It has nothing to do with English words. And it's not a matter of "fixing the author's mistakes", it's a matter of professionalism. If the name of the card is "Contstruct Element", then why translate it to a non sense like "Contrec Element"? The reads will think "da hell is 'constrec'?". I'm tired of repeating that English "romajization" in Japanese doesn't have rules or anything, and that changes constantly. For example, nowadays, they use "ト" ("to") with a small "ウ" ("u") to make "トゥ" ("tu") (which they don't have, having the "tsu" instead) in cases like Toon World. This didn't exist once, and they had to use either "tsu" or "chyu" instead. It's a matter of western influence. You can't say he wrote "Construct" wrong, if that's how he thought it would be closer to the English pronunciation. Also, with "Of course there's going to be someone in the whole of Japan that makes these kinds of mistakes, but it's not this one." I understand that you think YGO authors are special and never commit errors. C'mon, they're humans, they do error, many times even. In 5D's for example, Junk Mail's stats were listed completely wrongly when the chapter was published in V Jump, and the error was fixed when the chapter was released in the Tankoubon. Things like that happen, just accept it: the author didn't create a no-meaning word for the card's name! It doesn't make sense! What is "Contrec" Element? I don't know! But "Construct Element" totally makes sense seeing the card's artwork and effect; now this makes sense. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:46, January 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * The card does "construct" elements. Look its usage in the manga, for example; it used an ice and an wind monster to "construct" a fire and a light monster. And forgetting a letter is a perfectly understandable mistake, that's what I was trying to say. Also, the pronunciation "e" instead of "a" is valid; the actual pronunciation of "construct" (the "u") part isn't perfectly adapted to Japanese with "torakku" either, it's a more nasal sound. The pronunciation "constréct" sounds similar to the actual pronunciation in my opinion (and probably in Kageyama-sensei's opinion too), but anyway. I'm glad we can finally end the discussion. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 18:02, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Hey. Sorry for bothering again, but you wanted some examples of when the Japanese adaptation of an English word was misspelled, probably 'cause the author thought it was pronounced differently, in Yu-Gi-Oh!, and I couldn't give you any. Not to bring the discussion back or anything, but I actually found 2 examples and thought you'd like to check 'em. ^^ First, Foresee Draw, which Hikokubo-sensei thought was pronounced "Forse", it seems. Second, Gemini Elf, which is spelled "Djeminai" in Japanese (it seems they thought the last "i" was pronounced "ai"). LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:17, February 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, then that's me who pronounces it wrong. :P Although, you said that "jemini" is correct too, right? Just to be sure. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 01:00, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Phantom Beast Plane
I've asked several people. Ki can mean anything from "Machine", to "Plane", to "Gizmo". So Mecha is perfectly valid. Also, per the apposition discussions, no translation should be needed for them at all. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:25, February 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * I would argue that a Machine is a type of Mecha. Furthermore, "Mecha" makes sense for every member of the archetype, but "Plane" does not since one of them is a helicoptor. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:07, February 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * I certainly agree that "craft" is better than "plane". However, when the TCG name was revealed, I asked several Org members and they agreed that "Mecha" was just as valid a translation as "craft". "Mecha" is being used in the Japanese sense of the term, even in the English translation. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:09, February 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * I said "Mecha" was being used in the Japanese sense of the term, where it just means "Machine". Yes, its the TCG name, but its using the Japanese connotation for the word "mecha". No, we shouldn't take the TCG at its word for everything, but there is just as much danger in assuming they are wrong when they're not. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 13:37, February 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Have you ever examined the artwork of these cards? Each one of them has a face. Each one of them is based on an animal. Each one of them is essentially a giant robot in the form in the of an aircraft. Do you think these things would look out of place in a mecha show? Because I sure as hell don't. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:36, February 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * True, they would not stick out at either. That's the entire point. They are based on aircraft and mecha. The translation does not have to encompass both concepts. Its obvious they're based on both, the name doesn't need to point that out. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:45, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Card Renaming
Would "Psychonductor Behemoth" be at least reasonable for this card's name? I don't care if it isn't literal or anything; I just want to know if is baseless or not. User:NeoArkadia is suggesting it as its name. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 06:44, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Someone's asking for a rename of "Magical Under Taker". I ask because you were the guy who renamed from what the user wants it changed to. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 13:10, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Would "Wheel of Prophecy" and "Divine Judgment of the Spellbooks" be due for a rename due to the recent update to Dueling Network's card pool to include them with the names of Fortune of Prophecy and Spellbook Judgment Day respectively? I have posted on the talk page for Wheel in regards for the choice of name being made so early and with DN's recent update I could see the names leading to confusion if people came to look for information related to both cards. - Axel Shiokawa (talk • contribs) 00:22, February 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * I can see how using the literal translation of the names would work for now. I guess the only other option left to do is for Konami to release the cards with whatever names they feel like giving them. - Axel Shiokawa (talk • contribs) 08:07, February 21, 2013 (UTC)