User talk:Resk/DFF

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User:The Antichrist


 * Seems to be really darn slow
 * Edit:

"Hello, this is Christ, sorry guys its taking so long im staying with my dad for about a few wekks because hes ill and he has no computer so can you all wait? I only had time to send this message becuase I had to go to the library. Thank You All. --The Antichrist (talk • contribs) 23:57, July 25, 2011 (UTC)"

so... - Resk ( ✩ ) 01:02, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that's fine then, his dad's ill come on, we have to have hearts, sort ah. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:48, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I say, if we don't get the decks soon (Within 2 weeks), we say no to him as well. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  22:11, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

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User:Xuhaofei110


 * 12 harpies,- Resk ( ✩ ) 01:02, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * He didn't know about the rulings, the same applies to cards like A Legendary Ocean and Umi. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:47, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * So, far this guys got my disapproval, but I want to see what he comes up with for Harpie Vally. Well I run the same deck and you do too Resk, and BF2 has some variant of Harpies. So, let's wait until then. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:51, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * For venomnomnom deck, requires tribute summons for King, despite existance of Limit Reverse & Damage = Reptile, so deck seems less than avarage for that, if cards were unknown, at the very least the tips page mentions them,,,
 * - Resk ( ✩ ) 12:42, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

His Fortune Ladies weren't that good. He lacked a lot of staples and used quite a few not-so-great cards.


 * He's taken way too long on the Harpies, I say no to him being a deckbuilder. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  22:08, August 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * I also say, we give him a link to Lappyzard's General Deck Building Guide. Forum:Deck Guide/General. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  22:09, August 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Agreed- Resk ( ✩ ) 11:46, August 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Good, I think we are all agreed that he does not qualify. His Harpie build is bad. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  14:38, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

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User:SquirtleHero


 * Issues with his Vehicroid deck. He lacked staples: Dark Hole, Monster Reborn, Book of Moon, Solemn Judgment, and Torrential Tribute while focusing on Fusion Summoning (and using Armoroid). BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 02:05, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

I don't like what he did with the KM deck at all. I have to post it just to go over it.

He doesn't run any KMs of the same type for revelation costs. He plays triple Boulder when cards like that are too slow for the format. He runs Morphing Jar when we're about to see the return of Dark World, and, he doesn't play any of the good Rock KMs (I told him no Rock Stun though). He runs Maximus and Rooklord, which are just... awful. He plays triple Skill Drain in a deck that thrives on monster effects. He plays triple Bribe, which I would never do, ever, except in Mill. He's missing the following staples: Dark Hole, Heavy Storm, Solemn Warning, and Torrential Tribute. There's no synergy to the deck, no way to generate card advantage, and it's the most horribly built excuse for a Control/Stun deck I've ever seen. Without a doubt I say no. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 02:47, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

I've just looked at the other decks he did too. His Vehicroid deck looks terrible and lacks staples, as does the Timeater deck, which has no synergy. In fact, the only thing he's done in any of his decks that I liked was using Black Garden for Timeater. My answer is definitely no. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 02:52, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I kinda liked his timeater deck(though needs more shura targets), but the Koa'ki are terrible, & the roids are missing cards, though the concept was fine, so no & he can re-apply.... 3 months? 2 months? never?
 * - Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 17:35, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

I would say tell him never, but repeal the never if he starts posting quality decks on the deck help forum. Until we see that he can make something a. competitive, b. innovative, and/or c. correctly, I don't have much hope for his case. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 19:51, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

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User:SquirtleHero

The steelswarm look a heck of a lot better than his last deck, as does the naturia, though something still feels wrong about the steelswarm... but need to play with it first, it looks like it just contains good cards, but doesn't look to be fluid...

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 01:10, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well, she's seemed to fix her issues with staples thing. I question her choice of Sycnhros monsters, and the thing with 2 Tytannial, Princess of Camellias, but seeing as how Naturia's cover the field it shouldn't be a large deal. This is the Naturia build she gave me.

I would have made a Naturia Insect build, truthfully. For some reason, I've been thinking about making a Insect deck lately. Anyway I liked her build. But I'm waiting to see the forum posts she made on other sites, but overall I think she has gotten a lot better. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  01:12, October 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Btw, can you use Verz Bahamut with Steelswarm? That name stuff has gotten me confused. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  01:14, October 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * So tested the Naturia Deck out, 3/5 duels won. I really could have used some Xyz(s), way too many copies of cards in the extra deck, I don't want/need double Barkion, Black Rose, or both Trish. and Mist Wurm. A Steelswarm Roach or Utopia would have really helped. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  01:58, October 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Still, I'll admit, I did want to test out her deck, and the Rai-Oh were a great call on her part, really good. Although maybe both Camellia didn't help. My suggestion would be for her to add a few more traps, maybe a D-Prison/Comp. I say give her the advice to add Xyz(s), even if the deck is Synchro capable, as there is no need for double BRD, both Trish and Wurm, or Barkion, but overall I liked her deck, and let her in on a trial phase in DFF, but I'll wait on what you and BF2 have to say. -- - Dark Ace SP™  ( Talk )  02:04, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Way too slow. BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 02:07, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I will say there's a lot of improvement over the previous trial. The Steelswarm deck looks good, I have few complaints there, but I have issues with the Naturia Deck and the Gem-Knight deck. Gem-Knights has too many monsters to be consistent. I like the use of Summoner Monk, but dislike the use of Alexandrite, Gem-Turtle, and Thunder King (either play stun using GKF for discard costs or don't play TKRO). The use of DDR is interesting, but questionable. There aren't enough Traps to cover for the huge RFTDD play. There aren't enough traps to do anything, really. MST and Heavy will shut them down all day. I like the use of Gemini Spark but dislike the lack of Pot of Duality. Personally I'm not a fan of Obsidian at all, but 3 is definitely pushing it. 2 would be better.

My real problems are with the Naturia Deck. It lacks Spore and uses double Tytannial. Debris Dragon would have been a nice add, as would Effect Veiler. Anything Stun should be using triple Duality, especially before running Upstarts, which shouldn't be run in Stun at all. I really dislike the use of My Body as a Shield. It's generally a bad card. Again, nowhere near enough Traps, especially in a Deck claiming to be Stun. Double Tools is not needed this format, Stun traps like D Prison and Compulse should be played instead. The Extra Deck is very weak. Particularly notable is the use of double Barkion, double BRD, and of course, RDA. It also lacks necessary Xyz. Judging from her description of the deck, I'm guessing she doesn't know that Cliff misses timing when used for Synchro Summons.

There has been considerable improvement, which is commendable in such a short time, but there's still a ways to go. For now, albeit a bit reluctantly, I vote no. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 02:23, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I guess that's a point too. I mean the only true reason I won 3 out of 5 games was because of the Thunder King. Yeah, I really hated the extra deck, it was ok, but just way to hard to consistently Syncrho summon. And there isn't a spore in this..., Hmm I must have misread or mistyped a card. I put spore in the one I have on DN <,<.

I'll change my vote to a no, since Lappy did a way better job at pointing out everything I missed. I really am bad at evaluating decks, for some reason the decks I build usually work out ok, but I'm a complete failure when it comes to seeing all the details. But we really do need to tell her that she did way better, and point out all the little issues. She'll probably fix those up, and we really should make sure she knows where this wiki's deck help section is. I think we can label her as a person of future interest? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  03:28, October 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * And for the my body as a shield, I really would have preferred a Starlight Road, instead.

List of issues:
 * 2 Tytannial, Princess of Camellias in Naturia
 * No Xyz(s) in Naturia
 * No Spore in Naturia
 * No Debris Dragon to complete Plant engine (particularly since Extra contains 2 BRD) in Naturia
 * Odd Extra Deck choices/x2 of certain monsters in Naturia
 * Used Upstart over PoD in a "stun" Naturia deck
 * No D-Prison/Comp. Evac. Device in a "stun" Naturia deck
 * Not enough traps
 * Double Tools
 * Possibly lacked knowledge of Naturia Cliff rulings
 * Use of My Body in Naturia
 * Use of 3 Obsidian in Gem-Knight (this could be a personal choice though)
 * Too many monsters in Gem-Knight
 * No Duality in Gem-Knight

Keep adding what you feel is needed. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  03:32, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

My vote's a no, because I still haven't received my deck and it's been way too long. BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 12:46, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Boba, you didn't have a trial this time around... Not on her talk page anyway. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 20:06, October 18, 2011 (UTC)