Forum:Damage Calculation

I've seen a few cards that say things like "destroy the attack target with this card's effect without applying damage calculation". However, if say, Drillroid, attacks a face-down Flip Effect monster, say, Man-Eater Bug, will the Flip Effect trigger? And to confirm, Neo-Spacian Grand Mole's effect triggers at the start of the Damage Step, meaning that it can bounce the monster before the Flip Effect is set off, right? --Gadjiltron 04:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)