Forum:Effect veiler ???

112.198.82.137 (talk) 14:28, February 22, 2012 (UTC) I've read that effect veiler can't negate graveyard effects like sangan's effect... but it can negate exiled force..how does that work? Isn't exiled force a graveyard effect? or maybe effect veiler cannot be chained to the activation of exiled force and you must activate effect veiler first before your opponent do something to his exiled force? Does this event applied to effect veiler negating lonefire blossom,tytannia, or scrap dragon's tributing itself?

I also have this questions: 1. If wind-up juggler was detroyed by battle, can it's effect be activated? 2. If "Tiras, Keeper of Genesis" (with xyz materials) was detroyed by battle, does its effect activate?