Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL Wiki Problem

There were discussions on the fork page about the issues of copyright infringement that has been done to this wiki and its editors by the Yu-Gi-Oh ZEXAL Wiki. A lot of the information on that wiki is basically a straight copy paste of what we already have on this wiki on many of the pages concerning Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal.

Golden Key thought we should have a separate page for this and I agree, so what are everyone's thoughts?

-- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  23:20, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Well, we have 2 main problems with that wiki. 1. It's pointless, Zexal is just a sequel of yugioh, and is already covered by yugioh wiki. Do they make a new wiki every time a new assassin's creed game or resident evil is released? No they do not.

2. They plagiarized our content --Deathpyre (talk • contribs) 01:05, November 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * A lot of the content was copied months ago, and you can usually see a direct resemblance if you compare it with what we had at the time they made the article. The card article was directly copied, then gutted, except they left in a lot of SMW functionality. They have been asked to ensure their Wiki complies with CC-BY-SA, or there is a chance the Wiki will be shut down.--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 01:12, November 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * But there is no point to the existence of their wiki. Can't we point that out to them and get them to take down the website?--Deathpyre (talk • contribs) 04:01, November 29, 2012 (UTC)--Deathpyre (talk • contribs) 04:00, November 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * They probably won't listen the admin of that wiki is actual just a 13 or 14 year-old based on what I've heard. Also, he tried to get the admins here to take down Zexal content, so people would edit there instead of here. - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  04:06, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

I have to agree with most of the things that have been said so far, and I'll add my own: the only reason I even know about this wikia is because of the advertisements that occasionally show up for it on the bottom listing bar. I guess they made them because they want people to come and edit the wikia? It's a little bare as of now: the front page shows the 2nd Zexal II episode (Zexal 75 to most people) as the most recent one, so it's obvious that there hasn't been a lot of activity. I haven't checked the wikia for any plagiarized content from here, but it seems like there has been some outdated copying around the time these articles were back in... say, august.

I shot an email to a Wikia staff member to talk about this. He said that it is completely okay for two wikias to discuss the same topic, but I clearly think otherwise, especially when discussing cases of plagiarized content. He also suggested that the two wikias could be merged (even if, in this case, there would obviously be nothing to gain from merging except "losing" a wikia because, and let's be honest here: this wikia has the supreme content load. The ZEXAL wikia may be dormant, but I say we file some kind of issue in for plagiarization and general pointlessness, because there's nothing that wikia has that the ZEXAL section of this one doesn't.

Just some simple thoughts from a person who is afraid to scroll down to the bottom of the screen... in case I might get Zexal-bombed. Blatch (talk • contribs) 04:11, November 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think we (or the guys in charge of Wikia) have any valid reason to get their wikia shut-down, unless they keep creating new content that was blatantly copied from our website. The only point of a new wikia (based on some content from another wikia) in my opinion, is to create a new spin on already-existing content, or provided better, more detailed content. I sincerely doubt that they will (judging by their poor grammar and suggested ages). Also, judging by the content on that wikia, it seems to me that it was only created for fans who tried to project their opinions/substandard contributions to this wikia, but were rejected (which is also evident through their poor/low reasoning in their original-content contributions, and bad grammar).
 * TL;DR Even if they do attribute their content to us, if they don't contribute good-quality original contributions to their wikia, after an appropriate amount of time (idk how much), I think we could talk to the head-honcho guys at Wikia with a valid reason to get it shut-down. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 04:19, November 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't see the point to that wikia at all. Why? It's just a cheap copy paste of stuff we have or used to have, and the admin is very childish to the extent that he blocks someone for trying to link their page back here with the template (that worrys me about what he may do in the future if someone just does not agree with him on something). There's nothing to merge (per the first half of my last sentence). If they do not start crediting us, then it needs to be shut down because they've been told many times already to credit us (the admin seems to be listening given his recent reply on his talk page, but we'll see). Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 10:36, November 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * There might not be a point to it, but it can exist. The only thing that bothers some of the users is the use of copyrighted material, not the fact that it exists. Let's face it, if you search Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal on google, we're the 2nd result right behind Wikipedia and above anime watching sites like Hulu and gogoanime. You can't even find them, without doing a specialized search. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  13:29, November 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Their use of our material without proper attribution bothers me as much as anyone else on here (It's very serious). As for finding it, yeah, you can hardly find it (I found it at the very bottom by searching google). Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 14:59, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

We should make an example of them because it is a matter of principle. Can you imagine what gamers would say if every time a new resident evil or a new halo came out, a new wiki was only made for that game, and that wiki disregarded the other wikis. They would complain and object because of the absurdity. So how can we, the gamers of yugioh, stand idly by as more chaos is added, and we get insulted. Yugiohwikia is not just a anime wiki, it is primarily a gaming wiki. So if we make an example of this cancer known as zexal wikia; we shall prevent people from making a new wiki every time a new pack or a new anime comes out, and affirm our principles as a gaming wikia. (also, how do you get that font for your signature?)---Deathpyre (talk • contribs) 23:58, November 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * If you want more details on the situation, then post on Sannse's talk page. Incidentally, as of the moment I post this, there is another user who is complaining to her of a similar problem. Try not to be vague when explaining it to her; she already knows about this situation, and told us they could keep the stuff as long as they attributed it to yugioh.wikia.com --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 00:07, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I now have an admin deleting articles (to hide where the article came from originally), and then re-posting his version under the same page name. This means editors without admin rights will be unable to see the past revisions of the page. I have amended the template used to properly indicate instances where this has happened.--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 01:47, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see why ZeXal having its own Wiki is a problem; after all, Final Fantasy XI has its own Wiki and it's one of the largest and most respected on the web. The plagiarism thing is an issue, though, especially if even the admins are in on it; absolutely reprehensible. Rod (talk • contribs) 16:02, November 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, they have every right to start a new wiki and attempt to make it good. And if they want to cover ZEXAL to a further degree than we do, I'm all for it. I don't see the point of it, but if others do and wish to edit, that's all well and good. That said, the plagiarism really annoys me, especially because I put a fair bit of work into many of those articles myself before they copied them. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:12, November 30, 2012 (UTC)