Forum:2 ? - Same name cards and ATK increase at summon

Can I have three Umis and three A Legendary Oceans in one deck?

Can Trap Hole or Bottomless Trap Hole be used on a monster who is increased as it's summoned? For example, a monster is summoned, and a field card changes its ATK, or the monster changes its own ATK by its own continuous effect. Which must Trap Hole be used against? The monster before its ATK changes or after? Please confirm there's no difference between the field card's change and the monster's change. Sorry if this sounds really confusing, I'm having trouble wording it. Zeek Aran 01:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC)