User talk:Deltaneos

Unkickban - Cd5464
Hey you....it would be pretty nice if you would talk to two tailed about unbanning me now...I would appreciate it... CD5464 —This unsigned comment was made by Cd5464 (talk • contribs) 23:36, May 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * TwoTailedFox said the ban was indefinite. i.e. there's no set end to it. I imagine he only plans on removing it after you've shown that you're not going to behave that way again. But you don't seem to have shown any remorse for what you did. Your best bet is to contact him again when you're ready to cease using racial slurs and insults. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:29, May 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * I wont use any racial slurs or insults anymore. I've already asked for unbanning from him. I did yesterday. I don't think hes been on or he just doesn't wish to respond to me. Could you help me with getting back in? Only of course if you believe I'm telling the truth here....and if you are willing. Whats the name for that...sponsor?...perhaps ambassador....lol lets go with sponsor. Would you like to be my sponsor in the task of unbanning me? - Cd5464 —Preceding undated comment added 21:37, May 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Delta? Could you help me out? Cd5464 —Preceding undated comment added 22:28, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't like interfering with bans made by someone else unless there's some sort of communal agreement against the ban or it seemed totally unjustified. If you hadn't posted the insults on his talk page, I might be able to do something. For now, just wait and see if he replies to your last unban request. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:41, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Delta. Have you read the new messages on two tail's page? Is this not unfair? Is this not unreasonable? Could you please help me out here... Cd5464

oh and well...it would probably help if you read my talk page as well lol. Or you wouldn't see his replies... Cd5464

Why?
Delta please explain to me why i was kickbanned. calling people bitches is normal.......at least as how you perceive me.  Biatches You Just Got Served  23:20, May 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * You behavior. You were warned to stop. You stopped once but then you returned to do it. And calling a name to the Chat mod and admin of the chat. -- Laggia Will Lag You (Talk)  23:34, May 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Get on fb, nexus  Biatches You Just Got Served  23:36, May 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * If you wish to talk to me, come to my talk page.-- Laggia Will Lag You (Talk)  23:37, May 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * (Edit conflict) It was Nexus who kickbanned you. But the "bitch" comment was really the needle that broke the camel's back. You and the others who got banned had been fighting a lot. You know better than to do that. I know you said you failed at improving your social reputation, and may think that you've nothing to lose by getting involved in this drama. But I've seen you behave and I'm sure you can fit in just fine. You're not as bad as you other people make you out to be or how you may see yourself. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:39, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

How long am i banned? '' Biatches You Just Got Served 22:44, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal on PPG wiki
Someone erased all my stuff on PPG wiki —This unsigned comment was made by PowderPuffGirlz (talk • contribs) 12:17, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, all cleaned-up now. You should go here or here and explain that you had your old account disabled and would like your new one to have admin rights on that wiki. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:24, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Request for revert: Quillbolt Loop
Hello, I am asking for a revert of all the changes made by Milwaukee's Beast onto the Quillbolt Loop page today. There were 13 minor edits made that all are nonsensical and I would prefer not to make 13 undos because that would seem a bit pompous. Would you make this happen please? -- LordGeovanni - ( Talk To Me ) *Kupo* 21:07, May 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * You can revert more than one edit at a time.
 * Go to the page history
 * Click "cur" next to the revision you want to revert to.
 * Click "undo".
 * After checking that it's making the changes you want, click save/publish.
 * -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:14, May 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I did not know that there was a way for a non-mod to revert multiple edits at once. I have only ever "Undone" one edit at a time. -- LordGeovanni - ( Talk To Me ) *Kupo* 21:34, May 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am agreeing with Lord Geo - I have seen couple Admins done multiple undoing on same article within a minute. To us, the non-Admin, it seemed like impossible to twisting it and making it workable that way. I owned Lord Geo a thank for pulling it out. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:46, May 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Your welcome FredCat. I think that this may be why some people got mad at me when I was reverting the Spoiler lists removals on the Booster Pack pages. I only thought that I could undo one at a time when the others probably thought that I was reverting everything since that edit. -- LordGeovanni - ( Talk To Me ) *Kupo* 00:59, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

My Yu-Gi-Oh! Deck Wiki
I'm not sure this page is to do with Yu-Gi-Oh!... http://myyugiohdeck.wikia.com/wiki/Fiend_Roar_Deity_Raven

Thank you --Spongebob456 (talk • contribs) 13:03, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

A question from a newb.
Do you have a set of organized rules I should know about? Thanks --Weirdowithcoffee —Preceding undated comment added 00:27, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Rules for chat or any particular area of editing? The terms of use are rules to be followed everywhere on Wikia. After that, there are individual policies for different areas of editing. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:24, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Solda VS War Chariot
hi, mr. deltaneos, this person named "daughter-of-the-devil" recommended your page, because i want to discuss about a certain ruling,. it's about evolzar solda v.s g.b. war chariot... sumbody insist that if solda activates his effect to destroy the special summoned bestiari, and the war chariot negates solda's effect, he said that solda will be destroyed even though it has xyz material..? i hope this post would'nt be a disturbance.. —This unsigned comment was made by Scrapbolt (talk • contribs) 12:25, May 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Is it the last Xyz Material that's being detached or not?
 * If "Evolzar Solda" has just one Xyz Material when you activate its effect, detaching the material is a cost, so that's paid before the effect resolves. Then the opponent gets a chance to chain something. Since it has no Xyz Material attached at this point, there's nothing stopping it being destroyed so "Gladiator Beast War Chariot" can be chained.
 * If "Evolzar Solda" has more than one Xyz Material when you activate its effect, you detach one as a cost, then the opponent has a chance to chain. However since it still has material attached, it can't be destroyed, so the opponent can't chain "Gladiator Beast War Chariot".
 * Or am I overlooking anything? I'm not the ideal person to ask, but I'm nearly sure what I've posted is correct. If you want to check with more users, you can start a topic at Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Ruling Queries. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:21, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Im anything, BUT happy
nexus banned me because these beyblade people came over and screamed at me. i did not fight, but nexus banned me. i swear on my life, i didn't fight with them. and he still hasnt unban me. please unban me, asap. ask anyone at chat what happened that day. XOXO, yours truly, '' Biatches You Just Got Served 22:38, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Chatmod request - Flash1234
Delteneos can I be a chat mod? I am very good in chat.

--Flash1234 (talk • contribs) 15:29, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Deltaneos can I be a chat mod please? I am fantastic in chat!

Flash1234 (talk • contribs) 15:31, May 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've never met you before. Your account was only created just over half an hour ago and you're immediately asking for userrights... I'm afraid there's nothing there to make me want to give you chatmod rights. Just be patient. If you'd make a good chatmod, it'll eventually become clear. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:36, May 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Seeing in the chat that he has a bad history with User:BROOKLYN RAGE!, it will be difficult.-- Laggia Will Lag You (Talk)  15:39, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I was chatting today and left my account/laptop on so my brother got on and did some random edits! He can be very,very stupid!

Flash1234 (talk • contribs) 20:26, May 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Even if that is true or not. That's not an excuse, you accepted the terms and its your responsibility.-- Laggia Will Lag You (Talk)  20:34, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Can I have the mod status after 10-15 days please? I am admin/mod at 4/5 wiki's but in this case I wanna be a mod. I am dying to be one!!!! -- Flash1234 (talk • contribs) 15:55, May 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Chatmods are chosen after they've active for a long time, it's become clear that they're fair and most users are okay with having them as a mod. When someone is ready they shouldn't even need to ask as other users will have probably realised their potential. Overinsisting or constantly asking to become one is often not a good sign. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:18, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Two Things...
First; I now understand the reason why most of you and Mods that moving topics can do that - it was one button in between of two buttons that redirect or leaving the link behind. That's how you moved many topics at same times.

Second; be sure to clean this articles, it's starting to get longer in my taste - if that is ok with you, then it's alright to me as well. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:48, May 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * The move subpages option? Yeah, that speeds things up, but I don't think it's been used too often on this site. Bear in mind the "other card information" pages aren't subpages, so it can't be used with them.
 * Clean what articles? -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:55, May 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's what I was trying to recalling, but yes.
 * Your talk page, it seemed little longer than I could "bear" with it. But if you're fine with how long it is, then I can be "ok" with it. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:57, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

2012 Austrian National Championship
I tried to find out the real name of that Bernhard guy, but I couldn't find any hint for his real name. Some pages even called him Höger although it's basically the same as Hoeger. But I'm sure the "Card Master" will mention his name. The problem: the new CM comes at the 30th May. And I also wanted to ask you if you're speaking german :) Dunkles Magiermädchen (talk • contribs) 16:33, May 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks. Incidentally, I was looking for you on the chat yesterday because I thought you might be able to help with this.
 * Yes, I can speak German. Although my grammar's not-so-perfect and it's been a while since I got to use the language on a regular basis. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:18, May 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey there again. I think I found him here. Just compare the boy on the left side of the picture with his profile here. On that website his name is only spelled Hoeger. Dunkles Magiermädchen (talk • contribs) 15:30, June 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * That seems to be him alright, when he was five years younger. Thanks again. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:40, June 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem! Dunkles Magiermädchen (talk • contribs) 14:14, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

Chatmod request - Powerup123
Hey Delta, at times I've seen the chat in a mess, and no chatmods on. Could you consider me for a position please? I'm fair and reasonable with judgment and never abuse my power.

Powerup123 (talk • contribs) 17:41, May 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * You don't seem too bad. I can't think of any times you've caused or been involved in trouble in the past. Although I'm not sure how you'd react to other users causing trouble. Sorry I haven't been keeping as close an eye on your performance as I should have since you last requested this. But yeah, I'll keep you in consideration and maybe get more opinions from other users. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:18, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Chatban - Oneforseven147
Hello Deltaneos I was Wonder Why i got banned from the wikia chat and if you could unban me If i said something wrong i am sorry and i will not do it again

--Oneforseven147 (talk • contribs) 08:12, May 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * I blocked your Oneforseven147 account from chat because it was an alternate account of a user already banned from chat. Lord Grammaticus banned you originally. That was nearly a month ago. I'm sure he is willing to unban you at this stage. I have been meaning to ask him if he intended to remove the ban already. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:06, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

PPG insulting
AngelWingz Cheerleader keisei stop with the cough

Keisei Gyakuten make me oh wait, you can;t ^clearly shows she started the argument

AngelWingz Cheerleader this is annoying

10:19 Keisei Gyakuten Yes you are

10:19 AngelWingz Cheerleader i meant you

AngelWingz Cheerleader i should have said "IT is annoying

^clearly starting the insults

Keisei Gyakuten I should have said "fuck you" But I didn't

AngelWingz Cheerleader when you were born did the doctor put unknown gender on your birth papers keisei?

^clearly shows that she keeps on insulting

Nexus' reaction:

NexusShiker Flash this is between him and angel. But either way NH stop bothering her Spongebob456's reaction:

Spongebob456 NH, I'll have to put my ban face on: -_-" lol

they're being unfair :3 --Keisei Gyakuten﻿ (talk • contribs) 19:30, May 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Purely trying to lighten the mood. Apologies. --Spongebob456 (talk • contribs) 19:37, May 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Who started it isn't so important or clear form those logs. You both continued it and need to be mature enough to not do that. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:48, May 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * That means they should warn BOTH not just me.--Keisei Gyakuten﻿ (talk • contribs) 10:11, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Spongebob456 - Chat mod revoked?
Delta, have I had my chat mod rights revoked please? If so I would like to ask why. As far as I know I haven't done anything wrong. It's not displaying that I'm a mod on my user page or in chat. Sorry if I have :( --Spongebob456 (talk • contribs) 06:25, May 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry Delta, I have just gone back to my user page and it is displaying that I am a mod now. Even when I entered the chat it displayed that I wasn't one. A glitch of some sort?
 * Thank you --Spongebob456 (talk • contribs) 06:25, May 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * 'Must have been a glitch. Is it still not working after you enter the chat? -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:15, May 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * It is working fine now; even in the chat. Sorry for the disruption. It may be a thing to remember if it occurs again.
 * Thank you --Spongebob456 (talk • contribs) 14:42, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Opinion?
On the off chance you haven't seen this, please take a look at it. I'm assuming you have and simply decided not to say anything or are still figuring out what you'd like to say. I'm curious as to what your opinion is on it, so I thought I'd just ask. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:00, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh! Favourite Cards Wikia affiliation.
Hey Delta,

I don't mean to bother you but would you consider affiliating my Wiki with this Wiki please? I know my Wiki doesn't have many pages and it may not look particularly professional but I'm not that good with the technical stuff!!

It is based around people uploading their favourite Yu-Gi-Oh! cards to the Wiki and enabling others to view this, add to it and/or state their opinion about it.

Link: http://yugiohfavouritecards.wikia.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh_Favourite_Cards_Wiki

Thank you. --Spongebob456 (talk • contribs) 18:36, May 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * You mean something like mention it on the Main Page here? You can request that type of thing in the community discussion forum or Talk:Main Page. Personally, I think there are hundreds of Yu-Gi-Oh!-related wikis on Wikia. We can't mention all of them and I don't really see anything particularly beneficial or significant about this one. -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:42, May 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I meant on the main page. Oh well, it's okay. Just asking. Perhaps there should be a page stating the Yu-Gi-Oh! related Wikis. I know there are loads!!

Thank You. --Spongebob456 (talk • contribs) 18:08, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Say, Del
Is this allowed? It's only been edited by anons and users I've never heard of so far, is very unprofessionally laid out, and just seems to be based on fan opinion. Should I zap it, Cap'n? Rod (talk • contribs) 02:04, May 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't know. Some people have already begun to question whether the page is necessary on the talk page. You might want to add your reasons there. I've added a bit too. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:04, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Mike & Sasori
Sasori (in his Metrosexual account) is stalking Mike, capping WAY TOO MUCH and harassing Mike (IDK if harassing and stalking are the same), so help -_- -- Let the Number take hold! 19:42, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

he is really starting to bug me and i am feeling very uncomfortable. Mike Borg 20:31, May 21, 2012 (UTC)mike

Inappropriate actions in chat
Hello Deltaneos ther is a user in chat who is doing inappropriate actions:


 * 1) Camrellim has joined the chat.
 * 6:22 Camrellim hey
 * 6:23 Camrellim hey bitch tits
 * 6:24 Blaze7tyler Hey coolsmothemothafucka.
 * 6:24 Camrellim who wants a nudie?
 * 6:27 Camrellim ????
 * 6:29 Blaze7tyler IDK.
 * 6:29 Blaze7tyler Go ahead and link it, I guess.
 * 6:31 Camrellim k just wait
 * 6:31 Camrellim http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=cody+cummings&um=1&hl=en&safe=active&sa=N&biw=1366&bih=531&authuser=0&tbm=isch&tbnid=1i8rZr9oBylECM:&imgrefurl=http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/m2_J2907BQ5fbYac48szEg&docid=VzsknntoXslXBM&imgurl=http://lh3.ggpht.com/-dLjkW2FiiZ4/S0lE8t2_MYI/AAAAAAAAAZo/HQqTg1lfC98/brutos21281_CodyCummings.jpg&w=384&h=512&ei=bha7T6i1Fq6ZmQWQg-m6CQ&zoom=1

(BTW I warn you that the link includes inappropriate images)--LG talk My own Guides 04:45, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

We have three other users. The Monk111, Cateater02 and Poonslayer. Cateater is correcting everything and basically refusing to stop. Poonslayer and Monk are cursing at everyone and threatening them.

Please help. Blaze is currently pasting everything and he will give it to you Evolution   Is The   Key


 * they are already ban from the chat. If you want to take more actions go ahead.-- Laggia Will Lag You (Talk)  12:06, May 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * They're using shared IPs that a few legimate users have used. It doesn't seem like IP ranges can be blocked from chat and I'd rather not do a regular block unless they're persistant, as I don't want to hit the good users on their IP. Just let me know if they continue. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:36, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Sealed Beast images
The English manga is calling them "Forbidden Beasts". The first three cards ("Bronn", "Boa Booran" and "Garuma Juru") have images that can't be moved for whatever reason. Its saying the images I'm trying to move them to already exist, when they clearly don't. In at least two of those cases, the images previously were under those file names, since we apparently used "Forbidden Beast" when the chapters were first released, then moved them to "Sealed" since the "Forbidden" was speculation (I guess, that predates my time here). I tested this on another image, the one of "Inun" by moving it to "Forbidden", then back to "Sealed", then back to "Forbidden", but I'm not encountering the same problem. Seems similiar to the "Quiz Panel" issue a while back. Anything you (or Dinoguy, since I know he'll read this) can do or should I contact Wikia again? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:52, May 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think someone was making a good guess back then that "Sealed" would be "Forbidden" like with the "Exodia" cards.
 * The page File:ForbiddenBeastBuron-JP-Manga-GX.jpg doesn't exist, but the file http://images.wikia.com/y/yugioh/images/6/67/ForbiddenBeastBuron-JP-Manga-GX.jpg does. We got the ability to move files in April 2009. There were a few bugs with it back then up until a few months later, so I guess we can expect stuff like this with files renamed back then. I'm afraid you may contact Wikia again. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:23, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you.
Hey Delta it's me Juuka, or was until I renamed myself.

Well, for starters, Sasori was banned from our own wiki chat for valid reasons. Then he decided to carry out revenge by sending links to other chats thinking it was funny.

I know you have a lot more to deal with here, but seeing as how Sasori hangs around here often, is there something that could be done?

I don't like taking problems to other chats, but I'd like to know your input in this issue. Also, it happened before with Robert as well.

User: Ame-no-Murakumo --~Formerly known as JuukaRockmanReborn~ "Dispatched in Mankind's darkest hour, we are knights of the blue flame!" 02:00, May 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * What is it he's doing on other wikis? What kind of links is he sending? I could talk to him, but probably can't do anything after that. To report someone for misbehaviour on multiple wikis that isn't just spam/vandalism, you can report them with Special:Contact/user-conflict. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:29, May 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd rather not delve into specifics, but he sent the link to the chat we stay at, to several other wikis which caused a major flood of people coming in and disturbing our chat. It was pretty much an invasion. Thank you for trying to help as well.

--User: Ame-no-Murakumo --~Formerly known as JuukaRockmanReborn~ "Dispatched in Mankind's darkest hour, we are knights of the blue flame!" 18:46, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

Edit Count
Delta why have my edits gone 107 to 89?

--Flash1234 (talk • contribs) 17:57, May 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Please create a new topic, when the conversation is new. In talk pages (Users/Card Pages)-- Laggia Will Lag You (Talk)  18:00, May 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * These are deleted edits because they helped this wiki in no way and was removed. It is nothing to worry about.--Evolution is the key 18:02, May 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks,but did Wikia do them?
 * --Flash1234 (talk • contribs) 18:29, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

Flash1234 (talk • contribs) 18:29, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

Spam protection filter
Hey Delta, never seen this before but it decided to show up and stop the move of File:GravekeepersChiefCP03-EN-C-UE.jpg to the new format due to it containing "rsCH" in the name. I don't have permissions to report this and was checking to see if you know how to get around this. Thanks! ^_^ Look234 (talk • contribs) 19:10, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the random multiple edits, I keep getting a server error whenever I try to leave a message on your page. And it looks like the vstf.wikia.com guys fixed the spam problem. So no worries. ^_^ Look234 (talk • contribs) 19:25, May 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm curious as to why a spam filter would even filter out "rsCH"... -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:24, May 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, I also get that server error when I edit this page. Has anyone else been getting it? I thought it was a problem some users must get when editing their own talk page. It might be a problem with this page specifically.
 * I'm not sure why "rsCh" was blocked to begin with, but that other spam filter problem Falzar reported is creating a few more false positives on other wikis. I'll see if I can get it altered. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:25, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

Scan request
Say, Del, sorry to bug you, but do you think you could scan us a picture of Seto's little welcoming committee in the Duel Spirit dimension from chapter 10? The one we have now is a scanlation (which is entirely my fault) Rod (talk • contribs) 22:03, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

Image Problem
I've been uploading better quality images for cards in Generation Force, and while I was attempting to change "Pain Painter's" picture (the current one is slightly askew), it rejected the imagine. I tried two different files, but it kept saying it had an incompatible MIME type. Could you check this out and see what the problem is? Thanks in advance. --DARK 07:02, June 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Are you trying to upload a jpg over a png? It might be that you've saved the image with .png at the end of its name, but the extension is hidden and actually .jpg. If you're using MS Paint, when you "Save as..." make sure that the "Save as type" is set to png. Or simply upload it as a jpg and flag the png for deletion. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:07, June 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * It should have been a .jpg, so I'll go check and tell you if that does anything. --DARK 03:46, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * That got it. Thanks. --DARK 03:50, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

2012 Venezuelan National Locations
I Participant in this Event https://www.facebook.com/events/306748296065959/ Vladimirjesus1 (talk • contribs) 18:50, June 2, 2012 (UTC) Vladimirjesus1


 * 0 Wins / 7 Defeats 102°Place Last Place Vladimirjesus1 (talk • contribs) 23:06, June 2, 2012 (UTC)Vladimirjesus1

Kana
Master D has been going around removing any translations of kana to use the phonetic instead, such as at "Tinplate Archduke" and "Gearspring Spirit". I recall some discussion in the past about kana translations that I had with you regarding "Winged Kuriboh". Can you elaborate a bit on this? I asked NeoArkadia, and he said he'd never heard of that rule. Is it translation convention the TCG uses, or something? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:56, June 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Did you use the word "kana" when you asked him? Kana can refer to hiragana too, in which case the word would be translated. It's only katakana I said that you don't apply the translation for.
 * Most Japanese words have a kanji or hirigana spelling. Katakana is used for foreign words, like "Black Magician" (ブラック・マジシャン) and "Walküre Erste" (ワルキューレ・アルテスト). The latter name stays fixed in German no matter what language you translate it to. If you wanted a name to maintain Japanese words when you translate it between languages, it seems to make sense that you'd write them in katakana rather than their standard kanji or hiragana spelling. e.g. "Fortune-Telling Witch Hikari" (and the character Hikari) uses the katakana "ヒカリち" to spell "Hikari", rather than use the kanji, 光, which is why we use "Fortune-Telling Witch Hikari" as the translation, rather than "Fortune-Telling Witch Light".
 * But there are exceptions to every rule for when things just don't seem right. I don't know if it's right to call it "common sense", considering how many unresolvable discussions can be had over them. It does seem a bit overkill to use the use "Nejimaki Shikigami" etc. as the translations, but I don't know maybe it is right to. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:32, June 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok. Um, here's a question then. Why would want to maintain Japanese words when translating across languages? What purpose does that serve? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:42, June 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * When it's just a name, I guess. Like if you edited a German wiki, you'd probably still want to be called Cheesedude, rather than Käsedude. That's why the "Hikari" example makes more sense than the "Clockwork" one to me. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:49, June 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * I suppose that makes some sense, but I really don't see the value of it in card names, honestly. It just seems like a really odd convention to use. Even in the example you listed. I actually never took "Fortune-Telling Witch Light" to mean "A Fortune-Telling Witch named Light". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:03, June 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thinking about this a bit more, I can think of an non-card example this is a convention for, that makes sense - New Domino City. I suppose it does help indicate that even in Japan, the word being used was foreign. But as I said, I'm still not really sold on it. I don't know. Has it just been always de-facto policy? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:09, June 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * You mean named "Hikari" or are you thinking of "Fortune Lady Light"?
 * The first I ever took notice of it was with that Hikari example. I created the page at "Fortune-Telling Witch Hikari", then renamed it to "Fortune-Telling Witch Light", although I was a bit unsure about it. After getting a second opinion (User talk:Deltaneos/Archive 13, User talk:Danny Lilithborne), I put it back. I just went with that standard after that. Although it's only rarely came up where I've edited. I wouldn't call it a policy. But I couldn't see any other reason why you'd put a Japanese word in katakana.
 * A weaker bit of support is that Google translate usually doesn't attempt to translate a Japanese word that's been written in katakana, save putting it in the Latin alphabet.
 * One argument against leaving them untranslated would be nearly all the Japanese cards that have English names written in katakana don't stay in English when translated to other languages. e.g. "Elemental HERO" (エレメンタルヒーロー) becomes "HÉROS Élémentaire", "ElementarHELD" etc. rather than use the English words. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:10, June 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've asked III. He should have a better idea of how this works than me. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:33, June 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * ブリキ is a loanword from Dutch, and even if it weren't, being written in katakana does not "protect it" from being translated. Same story with "Nejimaki Shikigami"; we've already got the romanization up. They're Japanese words, even if they're written in katakana, and they're supposed to be translated. (Though for the record, ヒカリちゃん is a name - rendering it as "Fortunetelling Witch Hikari" is perfectly acceptable.)--Ryusui (talk • contribs) 01:50, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, cool. Could you also clarify on whether its "Hane Kuriboh" or "Wing Kuriboh" and "Neko Mane King" or "Cat Bekonking". I'm guessing you'll go with "Wing" and I think I've seen your stance on the latter. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:32, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I did it that way because we're doing the Syllable cards that way. And I'm not a Japanese speaker, but I think that you can attach various kanji to kana, so you can't actually translate them. And it's definitely Nekomaneking; Cat Beckonking is just stupid. It's Hane Kuribo because of Hanewata. I guess we can give them our own translation since it's obvious they're frogs and that they're made of tin, are winged etc., but Cat Beckonking doesn't fit anywhere; it's stupid. Mad Rest 00:32, June 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * My understanding was that we were doing the Syllable cards that way because they are the Syllable cards. "Kagetokage" set the precedent that they don't get translated in the TCG, so as to maintain the the wordplay. I'm not sure that should be applied to everything else. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:37, June 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * There shouldn't be a translation there. I'll get rid of it. Again, Kagetokage doesn't have a translation since it's Kana. And since the TCG's doing it, I'm not going to give them a translation since it can't be translated. For the same reasoning, the Frogs' Japanese names are portmanteaus, but one part of their name is in kanji. Who came up with Malenlightened, by the way? Mad Rest 00:42, June 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * You're right that kana alone do not always provide sufficient context; however, that's not the case here. As a further note, katakana can indicate emphasis, or even be used for the hell of it - they are not a universal indicator that "this should be taken literally and not translated." I'm not a native speaker, either, but I've had over a decade of experience. For the record, I translated "Neko Mane King" as "Cat Beckonking" because the Japanese name is a portmanteau of 猫招き (lit. "cat beckoning"; reverse it and you get 招き猫, the "beckoning cat" statue it resembles) and キング ("king"). For the record, the Syllable cards are likely meant to evoke onomatopoeia; they could in theory be translated, but any attempt would probably just sound silly. And yeah, "Kagetokage" is clearly "Shadow Lizard" - it sure as hell can be translated, especially given the monster's actual appearance. Apply a little common sense here. I finally thought to look for TDX's site so I could give him a piece of my mind, but really...what the hell do you say to a man who needs a reason to translate 椅子取りゲーム properly as "Musical Chairs"?--Ryusui (talk • contribs) 01:13, June 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, and yeah, ハネ is 羽. "Wing Kuriboh," "Winged Kuriboh," whichever - the latter is more grammatical, so really, I'd argue that a "translation" is redundant.--Ryusui (talk • contribs) 01:38, June 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * III didn't reply, but he edited some of the examples I linked to. He seems to be in favour of translating the katakana for "Winged Kuriboh", "Gearspring Catapult" and "Tinplate Archduke", but not for "Neko Mane King". (Those links go to his edits.) -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:43, June 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * I would note that the Syllable cards are not an exception to this. We don't translate them for English page names, since the TCG doesn't. But that doesn't change the fact "Kagetokage" means "Shadow Lizard". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:30, June 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * He just deleted the translations; they still aren't translated. Neji means screw and maki means winding, so they're basically something similar to Wind-Up. I don't see what deleting the translations will accomplish. Mad Rest 21:32, June 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * The translated name is only added if it's different than the English name. By deleting them, he was implying that the English names were valid translations. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:39, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

Chatmod request - Shadowman45
hello im shadow from yugioh wikia i was wondering if i could become a chat mod.I want to be one because i would be great for the job.Well hope you get my message see ya :D —This unsigned comment was made by Shadowman34 (talk • contribs) 15:20, June 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't know. I haven't really seen how you deal with conflict. -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:02, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Six Samurai - Vandalism
Hey Delta,

I have already 'undone' this edit, but I feel this user needs disciplinary action.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Six_Samurai?diff=prev&oldid=1939550

Thank you --Spongebob456 (talk • contribs) 19:17, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Chat issues
Hey Delta,

I'm afraid the chat is playing up as when I log on, I can't see any of the users on the right hand side. I can see them speaking in the centre however. Not sure what the problem is. Can you help out please?

Thank you. --Spongebob456 (talk • contribs) 13:11, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

power abuse from spongebob
PrincessPikeruBFF cmon bob i wanna see if anything changes

5:00 Spongebob456 I can't do it with no reason to do so -_-

5:01 PrincessPikeruBFF yes kicking doesnt matter banning does

PrincessPikeruBFF has been kicked by Spongebob456.

Btw I'm new here :3--Trey Racer (talk • contribs) 14:02, June 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's only because Princess is behaving poorly toward other people, from what I heard. I am sure Spongebob456 never back down his words and I don't believe that he's abusing the power but sure that's same person he kicked often was because of her behavior. To be honestly, Princess Pikeru have never learned her lesson to not treat other like lower class. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:05, June 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * It was also a pure test to see what would happen, to see if the chat would change as it has malfunctioned in some way. Apologies if it was against the rules, but it wasn't intended for power abuse in any way. --Spongebob456 (talk • contribs) 14:08, June 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * It was consensual and just for testing. There's nothing wrong with that. And you're not new. You've used alternate accounts before. If you have a problem with a user, will you please try and work out, put it aside or at least bring it up directly. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:07, June 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Knew something about Trey screamed "alt". Wonder who it belongs to. Lord Grammaticus (talk • contribs) 18:14, June 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * In add to Delta's advice, take 5 minutes cool yourself down before start to talking - otherwise we all have to tie you up in rope and let you sit there and wait patience for you to stop squishing in there. If five minutes passed and you're still that ticking off, take a walk around a block or something to cool yourself down. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  18:15, June 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Imma report Freddie here for harassment if he keeps saying he'll tie me up with a rope-- Let the Number take hold! 07:16, June 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Who's Freddie? Super '''Sponge!!  (Talk)(About me) 07:44, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Requesting block
Vandalism-only account acting up again. Lord Grammaticus (talk • contribs) 01:55, June 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Agreed with him - he's spoiling the shit crap. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  02:02, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Deck help - 00:53, 8 June 2012 Tsavs98
Umm Hi, Im not that great at building decks, but i was wondering if you could help me, Ive beaten almost all my friends with this deck but I feel it needs improvment still. I would really appreciate it if you could help. Monsters: Copycat Attack gainer wattbeta X2 Skelengel Stealthbird X2 Familiar knight Dandylion Counselor lily Skull Kraken Des Koala Newdoria Vylon Prism Summoner monk Chaos sorcerer Guardian Eatos X2 Black Luster soldier Envoy of the beggining

Magic: Power Pickaxe Monster reborn Mystical space typhoon X2 Falling current The warrior returning alive Dark hole Photon sanctuary Swords of revealing light Double summon Miricle sychro fusion

Traps: Skill drain Sakuretsu armor Reckless greed Scrap iron scarecrow Compulsory evacuation device X3 Call of the haunted Negate attack Magic cylinder

Extra: Fusion: Dragon knight Draco-Equiste

Synchro: Red dragon archfiend X2 Red nova Dragon

XYZ: Number 39: Utopia Gem Knight Pearl X2

—This unsigned comment was made by Tsavs98 (talk • contribs) 00:53, June 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi. You'd be better off starting a topic at Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Deck Help. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:05, June 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Already posted on his talk page about this, was about to tell you, but your're too fast. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  01:07, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Requesting page move for Hairon
The English name for Hairon being changed to Hanion has no basis whatsoever other than continuity.

Both the anime and TF6 game has its name as 'ハイロン', Hairon. There is still no English air date for the episode it was featured in. Sephylon, the Ultimate Timelord clearly shows that the Timelords' name don't have to end with '-ion'.

That is why to follow with its Japanese name and to follow the TCG English name for Metaion, the Timelord and Sephylon; I suggest keeping its name as 'Hairon, the Timelord'. HHT  - (Talk to the Turtle) 09:50, June 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay. Before I do... There's a lot of variation among the other "Timelord" pages as to whether it's "Timelord" or "Time Lord" and whether or not there's a comma after the name at the start. I'm guessing they should all be "Timelord" and with a comma based on the two that have English releases. Can you confirm this first so I don't end up moving the pages more times than I need to? -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:02, June 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Metaion and Sephylon are the only ones released in the TCG and the OCG. It is relatively safe to follow these two cards' TCG English names, that is with a comma and 'Timelord'. Is there anything else that you need? HHT   - (Talk to the Turtle) 11:14, June 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * While cleaning-up after the page move, I stumbled on this old forum. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:52, June 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've also stumbled across that thread but what he said confused me. Razion has the Japanese name 'ラツィオン' pronounced 'Ratsuion'. Tzaphion has the Japanese name 'ザフィオン' pronounced 'Zafion'. I know about their names being derived from Archangels.
 * However, Hairon really has that character 'ロ' in its name. Naming it Hanion is just because there is an archangel called Haniel seems to bold of a move to me. That's why I was hesitant because I was asking "where is this unwritten rule where they must be '-ion'"? —This unsigned comment was made by Hide Head Turtle (talk • contribs) 15:02, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Affiliation
Per Forum:Offer of affiliation from our sources, I've been discussing things with Pharaoh Atem at DuelistGroundz. I said that you would be the best person to represent the wiki within the group and he'd like to speak with you. Could you please reply to this topic regardless of whether or not you are interested? I know you never posted in the forum discussion, so I don't know how you feel about this. Thanks, Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:20, June 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay. Are you sure I'm the right person for this? Anyway, you want me to create an account on DuelistGroundz and reply there? I see Neonian is a part of that group. I'm in somewhat regular contact with him. I might just talk it over with him before doing anything else. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:07, June 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think you are. You have a lot of general knowledge about the game, which is something I sort of lack myself. You were the first person I thought of to help there. But yes, please create an account and reply there. Thanks, Delt. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:15, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

New lightbox
Hi, Recently, as part of improving the viewing experience of both photos and videos, we a developed new lightbox for wikia. It is now live on a handful of wikis, and we would like to start rolling out the new version of the lightbox to more wikis, including Yugioh. You might be wondering, what is new in this version? Improvements include:
 * View all types of media (photos and videos) the same lightbox across your wiki (please note that videos that are embedded at width of 320px or larger will play in place on your article and will not launch the lightbox)
 * Continuous viewing - when viewing an item in the lightbox, you can advance through all other photos and videos from the article page
 * Share - you can now easily share out to multiple social media sites and by email right from the lightbox In the new share, the share URLs will share context by sending your friend to the original article page from which you shared with the lightbox loaded with the shared photo or video and all other photos available on the article page loaded into the carousel.
 * Better viewing experience - the lightbox is now larger and displays the maximum possible size of the photos so you can see your media in its best form.

You can see the lightbox in action on Diablo wiki and the Assassin's creed wiki.

Please let me know if this wiki is ok with being in the next group to receive the new lightbox, as well as any questions or concerns you may have. I posted this message to you since you were the most recently active admin. Please let me know if there is somewhere else I should post. Thanks, --Sarah (help forum | blog) 21:02, June 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, cool. (I think you mean w:c:assassinscreed, rather than w:c:assassincreed.) We usually use Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki Community Discussion to get input on new features. I've started a thread there, Forum:New image lightbox, to ask everyone else. Thanks. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:15, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I wasn't quite sure on the best spot - thanks for the help! --Sarah (help forum | blog) 16:22, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

Spamming Chat
DarkLeone3122 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:DarkLeone3122 was spamming the chat with love hearts and abusing over members of the chat http://imgur.com/FtQ5Q --Oneforseven Aka The New Bos (talk • contribs) 04:04, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I have already dealt with it, Delta. I was notified about it in the chat and have just seen it on your talk page. There people present to back up the ban which made it easily justifiable.

Thanks Super '''Sponge!! (Talk)(About me) 06:51, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

Toonzai subs
Card names and Yu-Gi-Oh terminology is based on the TCG, but characters and places retain their Japanese names. They call it Red Nova Dragon; they use their own translations for cards, just like the dub. Mad Rest 15:38, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

Are these connected?
Hey Delt, can you run a checkuser to see if and  are connected? The first edit Caonima performed here was reverting Blackwings' revert of Zhu's vandalism on their talk page, but their other three (as of time of writing this) edits appear to be fine, so I hesitate to just autoblock them. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:56, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Check their IP codes? Last time someone got in trouble was actually the account's cousin who lived in same region. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  18:08, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * There is one IP used recently by both accounts. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:36, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Does it look like enough to block the latter for block evasion, then? 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:39, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * As Lord Grammaticus has pointed out, they're still continuing to do it, while logged out. (Yes, that's the IP.) I'd say it's okay to reinforce the block. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:07, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Good thing I kept that part in mind. Hope a good work to keep them tightly secure, my friends. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:18, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * All right, I already blocked the IP for a month, and I just permablocked the Caonima2b account; bump the lengths down if you feel that was too extreme. =) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:59, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's better to have that account gone than him spamming the site with two accounts. It's like we, Batman, fighting Two-Face. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:20, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

I need to talk
Hey Delta. I need to talk with you later, it's important. --There&#39;s no love in fear. (talk • contribs) 21:54, June 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, what is it that you need to talk about? -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:44, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Complaint
I'd like to complain about my ban from chat. As you know, I spammed and got banned for 3 days, while Brook used Caps, insulted and annoyed everyone, and got banned for one day. I demand an unban, otherwise I'll report to the Wiki Community.-- Let the Number take hold! 13:41, June 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * That was his first time being banned. You've been banned multiple times before. Generally people get longer bans the more often they offend. You also said that you were deliberately trying to get banned. It's not like you're going to get a ban long enough for your convenience when you do that. When you want to be unbanned, it's better to just focus on not causing the trouble again. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:59, June 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Report it is.-- Let the Number take hold! 14:26, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Chatbox
I'd like to say on mine and ivy's behalf that there is such a thing as being inappropriate, disruptive, and altogether abusive to other members. I'm a respectful and cooperative member of the Yu-Gi-Oh wikia and chatbox, however as a chatbox monitor, you have the responsibility to make it clear that such behavior from Anybody regardless of ties, relations or connections, is NOT tolerated. I'll say right now that if i do not see behavioral change in the clearly, consistently, and un-apologetically disruptive members, not only will I discontinue my volunteering at this website, but will seek assistance to question the validity of the chatbox monitors' judgement. This is a respectable wiki branch; duelists and fans alike from around the world come here, please make sure that those of them that admire the site enough to wish to contribute to it are in a welcoming and safe environment.--Ilvirdis (talk • contribs) 02:30, June 24, 2012 (UTC)ilvirdis

Alternate account of User:Firehurt
Hello Delta. Didn't you say that User:Hunter X hunter 123 was the alternate account of User:Firehurt? I may be wrong. Firehurt was banned recently and Hunter X hunter joined the chat just now. I was just asking to see if the Hunter account is the alternate account of Firehurt. Thanks. Super '''Sponge!! (Talk)(About me) 16:41, June 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, you might have already got confirmation, but they are the same. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:42, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

The Organization
Hello. I am NeoArkadia from the Neo Ark Cradle forum. The Organization would like you to join us over at Duelist Groundz. NeoArkadia (talk • contribs) 17:28, June 29, 2012 (UTC) NeoArkadia (June 29th, 2012)


 * Heh, that sounds so sinister... =D (also, welcome to the wiki, Neo!) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:40, June 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * We bring cookies. NeoArkadia (talk • contribs) 17:28, June 29, 2012 (UTC) NeoArkadia (June 29th, 2012)


 * Hi and thanks for the offer. I've registered on DuelistGroundz. My username is the same as it is here. But I'm getting permission errors whenever I try to view a thread. I don't even get those errors while logged out. I've followed the account validation instructions a few times. It says I've successfully validated the account each time, but I still get the errors. Any idea what I may be doing wrong? -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:47, June 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * You should inquire with the staff. I can try asking Atem about it. • contribs) 17:28, July 6th, 2012 (UTC) NeoArkadia (July 6th, 2012)


 * He emailed me yesterday. It's sorted out now. I'll see about replying on that thread soon. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:33, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Atem's getting a bit antsy. =D Have you not been able to find time to swing by or something? 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:45, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

100 000th edit
I see that you made 100 000 edits. This is good, you might sponsor the wiki. I made a wiki for people that made 100 000 edits. However, you are the first person I am contacting for this. So, can you sign on this page? It would mean a lot for our wiki. If you know anyone else who made 100 000 edits, please let me know. 94.253.203.119 (talk) 19:17, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

G5 Duel Puzzle names
第1問　：　「バトルフェイズにはいるまえに　（バトルフェイズに入る前に）」 第2問　：　「モンスターをゆうごうするには？ （モンスターを融合するには？）」 第3問　：　「ぎしきにひつようなもの （儀式に必要なもの）」 第4問　：　「しょうかんするべきモンスター （召喚するべきモンスター）」 第5問　：　「これをいけにえにしょうかん！！ （これを生け贄に召喚！！）」 第6問　：　「いじげんへのいざない （異次元への誘い）」 第7問　：　「これじゃこうげきはふせげない！ （これじゃ攻撃は防げない！）」 第8問　：　「３０００たい３０００ （３０００対３０００）」 第9問　：　「ペンギンだいらんせん （ペンギン大乱戦）」 第10問　：　「いま！ふっかつのとき （今！復活の時）」 第11問　：　「けっそくのちから！！ （結束の力！！）」 第12問　：　「あせらずじっくりと… （焦らずじっくりと…）」 第13問　：　「トランスフォーム・フィールド」 第14問　：　「こうレベルモンスターをしょうかん （高レベルモンスターを召喚）」 第15問　：　「しょうかんするのはコレだ！ （召喚するのはコレだ！）」 第16問　：　「けっそく！ゼラをたおせ （結束！ゼラを倒せ）」 第17問　：　「こころがわりなモンスター （心変わりなモンスター）」 第18問　：　「ししゃのいちげき！ （死者の一撃！）」 第19問　：　「ししゃにささげるいけにえ （死者に捧げる生け贄）」 第20問　：　「うらからおもてになったとき （裏から表になった時）」 第21問　：　「ふうじられたらおてあげです （封じられたらお手上げです）」 第22問　：　「ふうじられたらほんとうにおてあげ！ （封じられたら本当にお手上げ！）」 第23問　：　「パワーアップしてますか？」 第24問　：　「ダイヤをくだきてきをもくだけ！！ （ダイヤを砕き敵をも砕け！！）」 -- III (talk • contribs) 19:38, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Giganto R/Minerva
I look through the lineart and can't found anything that resemble Carly's Duel Runner expect for Giganto L. The only solution I got, is to ask Katsumi Ono on his Twitter account like how we got Trinidart Ouroboros's name. WinterNightmare (talk • contribs) 19:30, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

About LaserGhost
Hey, Delta. Sup? Laser is cursing and...yeah, he becomes crazy because of his Xyz Zombie. "LaserGhost fuck u all who run xyzombies other than me your decks still suck i am perfect so fuck you all i can bea ya anytime oh and btw fuck u all bitches" Barcibal (talk • contribs) 11:56, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

True--LaserGhost (talk • contribs) 11:59, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Yo Del, just stopping by to say that Nexus is a bitch who bans without giving warnings and abuses multiple accounts without taking any consequences. So, BYE!-- Let the Number take hold! 19:10, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Offense talk in chat
Reporting offense talk in chat by users http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:The_Play_Boy_X and http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:LaserGhost http://i.imgur.com/EhwF8.png That is the screen shot i took of the offense talk.

--Oneforseven (talk • contribs) 11:31, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

delta please do something about laserghost. he is saying things like "there u go now fucking change your name or else i keep calling u borg/cyborg >:D " and other stuff and u can ask daughter and she can prove he said that. thanks delta Mike Borg 12:28, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

now he has added to it. "Daugther-of-the-Devil:So Laser, could you please stop with annoying Mike and others?" "LaserGhost:others k mike no >:D" "lol borg u gave me headache and what are u anyway? nobody" please stop him or i cant guarentee anything. Mike Borg 12:38, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

The above is true but if you want to hear explanations here you go:Playboy talked about my parents and thats a red line for me, the other things against mike borg is that she is acting bossy in the chat and i cant take it(she is saying or i won't guarantee anything and she cant do anything). also they take words to seriously and they reported me because i said i will...but never did. and actually i didnt do anything wrong in my conversation with borg exept tell her to stop acting bossy in somehow hard way and i told her to change her name using the page i linked her.if you want to hear more then just tell me at my talk page, if not then thank you right there.I dont fear being banned from the chat and im not gonna kiss anybody's feet so i won't get banned, i was simply explaining my behaviour so if you accept it, fine if you dont, then its still fine.--LaserGhost (talk • contribs) 12:54, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Block request
Please could you block this user. He has been vandalising pages. Super Sponge!! (Talk)(About me) 18:56, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

February 2003 lists
Hey Delt, here's hoping you know something about the old Forbidden/Limited lists: do you have any idea what's up with the February 2003 Lists? As far as I can tell, all additions and changes made in this list were reversed in the subsequent list. The source for this list is the same as the source I found for the May 2002 Lists, which match up with the originally posted list, though unfortunately that source has disappeared since the last time I looked. The other list pages I've created/updated all use Wayback archives of UDE's old list page.

My current theory, since the source used otherwise agreed with UDE's lists, is that this list was actually for Europe or Oceania (or some other non-NA region), but I don't have any way to prove or disprove this.

While I'm at it, you wouldn't happen to know of any sources for the old OCG lists, would you? 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 09:25, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmm, you know how to make a guy feel old.
 * In North America", "Sinister Serpent" and "Harpie's Feather Duster" were Stairway to the Destined Duel promotional cards, released April 2003. In Europe they were released in 2004 as World Championship 2004 promotional cards. The OCG got them much sooner.
 * "Graceful Charity" was released in the TCG with Starter Deck: Pegasus, which we've listed as being released on March 30, 2003. The OCG also got it sooner.
 * It looks to me like the February 2003 Lists are for the OCG, which had those cards and the April 2003 Lists are for the TCG, which didn't have those cards. (It's a lot more likely than them deciding to unlimit "Harpie's Feather Duster" and "Sinister Serpent"; two long term residents at 1 and 0.) The OCG and TCG used to use different Forbidden and Limited Lists, where some cards would have different status, even if they were released in both regions. That would explain why some of the other cards are different. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:04, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * I actually don't remember where the source for these was. It is entirely possible the early ones are OCG list.--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 17:35, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've sourced all of them except the May '02 and Feb '03 lists to UDE's old site, so those ones are definitely the TCG lists.
 * Also, as a general note (I probably should have said this earlier): don't trust what I've written in the ledes for the lists, in terms of what was added and changed. While adding the April '03 list, I looked over the earlier ones and noticed several discrepancies that I'll need to fix at some point. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:53, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's what I'm here for. =D
 * That would help explain things. If we can just find a source for the old OCG lists, then, we'll really be in business. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:32, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * You guys probably already have found these but just incase, this but it only goes to 2005, and this has all the lists except 1999 but no official sources. Here are two older lists, not sure on the date though looks like 2004 here and here. Hopefully this helps a bit. ^_^ Look234 (talk • contribs) 18:00, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the links, Look, that should definitely help. =D 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:34, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

DeltaneosBot profile pic
Taking a cue from [ my bot], eh? =D (and at the risk of sounding sacrilegious, what is your bot's profile pic from?) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:22, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I didn't think people would realise what that log action was targeting. Image is from commons:File:Wikibot gray.jpg. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:51, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I got an email notification for an edit to DeltBot's user page, but without an actual edit link; I've known for a long time that such notifications correspond to log actions (and on Wikia wikis, they usually mean an added or changed avatar). ;) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:55, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Those images are quite interesting - At least they gain some various base on their looks. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:21, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Unofficial?
I asked this to Cheesedude, but he couldn't answer me for sure. If a card is played in the manga, but the card itself is not shown, and the effect is just explained in a dialogue - is the Japanese card lore of that card considered an ?LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:13, July 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I would say yes (I would also say I make for a funny-looking Deltaneos, but that's neither here nor there =D ). Such cases should be noted somewhere, probably on the card's trivia page. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:12, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * In the same token, this could also apply to the English lores of ALL anime-only cards. The dub has no card text, which means no lore, which means unofficial. However, I think applying it that way is just pointless...and would probably confuse more people than it would help, honestly. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 14:18, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * But in this case, if we have the lore shown in Japanese, then we couldn't consider it unofficial, as they cannot change the effect of a card in the dub. However, um, for example: Remember Kaito's Feelings Towards the Future? If we didn't have the image for the card showing the lore, we would never know it would inflict 4000 damage to Kaito if he didn't Overlay the Special Summoned monsters. So, the lore would be incomplete. This is why I came up with this question. The cards may have other effects, limitations, drawbacks, etc, but we can't figure it out if they don't say or the card is not shown. And you know in the manga many cards don't have the lore written in the card. LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:04, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Chat Ban
Hey, I need some enlightenment on a recent chat issue. A little while ago, me and a few fellow users from the Dragon Ball Wikia decided to visit this wiki's chat. However, the only chat moderator on at the time (NexusShiker) somehow came under the impression that we had malicious intent there. Even though we were not breaking any apparent rules, we were all eventually banned by this user. I find this highly unfair, could you shed some light on our dilemma? --NobleTrigon 17:31, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Delta why are User:Spongebob456 and User:NexusShiker Chatmods? they are just two power abusers. I got banned from Sponge and when i went to see the reason it said "Miss-click" ok seriously what is that?--LaserGhost (talk • contribs) 11:33, July 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * "Miss-click" was the reason given for changing the length of the ban. He meant "misclick", as in he originally clicked on the wrong length. The reason he gave for the ban was "insulting". You can view the full log. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:09, July 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Check Laser's talk page for more information. -- Super Sponge!!   12:46, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

and I was throwing some names without looking at anything -.- stupid me--LaserGhost (talk • contribs) 09:06, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Chat Rules?
Hello delta. I am being frequently banned because of extremely small insults (stupid/noobs) so I ask you to put a list of Insults that deserve a ban. because of the power abusers banning people for no proper reason. oh and sponge said i was insulting at other people's back while they happened to be away, and that person didnt bother putting his brain to work and figure out that if anybody returns they will see my insult meaning it is not behind people's back.--LaserGhost (talk • contribs) 14:52, July 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Nexus and me have been discussing the Chat Rules. That may be something to add to the list. The severity of the insult may be up to the Chat Mod's discretion however. -- Super Sponge!!   15:04, July 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Nexus has also been talking to me about it. I've been meaning to get back to him on it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:41, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Template:Card lists and Template:NavboxList
Hey Delt, do you have any idea what's going on with the archseries member lists on Card lists? Archetype [anti]support lists don't do the same, even after a null edit, and I can't find anything obviously wrong in any related template. The only possibility I can think of is that there's a problem with using a category in the query, which is supported by this edit. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:47, July 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Something to do with spacing. &#91;&#91;Archetype or series__card list for::Abyss&#93;&#93; works, while &#91;&#91;Archetype or series_card list for::Abyss&#93;&#93; doesn't. The double space is needed for the cards, whose archetype is automatically taken from the page name some . The single space is needed for the others. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:28, July 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually once you null edit one of the other list pages, you'll see they all need the double space. We could just change Template:Card lists to return, with the two spaces. But I think we'd both rather have it fixed, so that they use the proper single space. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:41, July 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * It was just a bit of phantom spacing. Just need to let the cache for each page clear now. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:56, July 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * (A bit late, but...) Thanks for figuring it out. Whitespace bugs are nothing short of retarded - you shouldn't have to worry about whitespace unless you're doing string manipulations, in which case you (usually) want to explicitly handle whitespace character-by-character, just like everything else in the string. This is not such a case, thus this is an incredibly retarded bug (and a regression at that, since it worked prior to the upgrade). =/ 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:06, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * They can be a pain alright. The Factbox, which I've been in favour of removing, is what helped me spot the problem. I noticed the extra space after copy pasting the property name from the factbox. I don't know how I would have picked up on it otherwise. Despite its assistance, I still feel like backstabbing it and having it removed. ^^ -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:10, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * You and me both. It's great the 0.0001% of the time I'm playing with properties in templates, and otherwise it's just an almost completely useless waste of screen real estate. I'd be perfectly happy with it not displayed by default, with a switch of some sort (maybe something like ) to display it on a page. 「 ディノ 奴  千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:32, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Xyz Colosseo
Why did you move this? I said that Colosseo is the original Italian name, and your reason was the talk about kana, even though that has nothing to do with this. Mad Rest 22:31, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Cheesedude moved it, not me. I would have thought "Xyz Colosseo" was right too. But in the conversation he linked to, we were talking about when Japanese names use katakana to write a word in a language other than English. And whether we should leave them in the language used or translate them to English.
 * One way of looking at it is for example the Japanese name for "Stardust Dragon" uses English words. Its Italian name uses the Italian words, despite the Japanese name using the English ones. For "Xyz Colosseo", the Japanese name uses an Italian word, so the English one could use the English word, despite the Japanese name using the Italian one.
 * Really, both translations, "Xyz Colosseo" and "Xyz Colosseum" are correct and arguments could be (and have been) made in favour of using either one. In the long term, I think our best option is to see what English name 4Kids/Konami give it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:25, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * I thought the point of the kana conversation was that we should only leave foreign loan words that way if they are names. "Colosseo" isn't a name, so we should use "Colosseum". The dub is very likely to use "Colosseum" as they've set a precedence for that sort of thing already (no, I'm not suggesting we use that as rationale to change it back to "Colosseum"). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:39, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Retro Format
My deletion notices have been repeatedly removed from Retro Format. Its only source is "the memory of who invented it". Please deal with the page. Thanks. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 18:26, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

DONT DELETE RETRO FORMAT !!! WAS DECLARE OFICIAL TO DOMESTIC DUELS IN 2010 Ron.and.Roll (talk • contribs)

Is not my problem how deleted works, you deleted my article three times. I asked that administrators do not erase the article because the Retro Format was officially declared two years ago and in this wiki there is any information about it.

READ ALL ARTICLE AGAIN !!!

"the memory of who invented it" is reference to many people since 18 to 22 years old. All information abou Retro Format was deleted from the net in 2008. Ron.and.Roll (talk • contribs)

RE: Tag Force Booster Pack images
I currently don't have access to a copy of TF04, maybe in a couple of weeks. I can upload the ones from TF05 for now. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:11, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I have a copy of TF04 so I should be able to grab the pack images in a bit. And for the dimensions of the booster images, I'm getting 64x128, let me know if you get a larger resolution and I'll dig again and see if I can find them. ^_^ Look234 (talk • contribs) 01:08, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * My TF05 would be 65x131. I'm using whatever the original resolution is that I'm getting them at.
 * Also, we should use no spaces in the file names, similar to the other things in the Image Policy right? A lot of them still have symbols and spaces.
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:02, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmm, not sure where I'm losing the few pixels, but its nothing too drastic. And yeah we should keep with the Image Policy and remove the spaces. Look234 (talk • contribs) 02:46, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * If the original size is in a different size through different game titles, there shouldn't be a reason to change it. It should be fine keeping the same size as what you get yours at. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:49, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Mkay, all the TF06 Boosters are uploaded. ^_^ The names are taken from the GameFaqs guides, feel free to change them if needed. I'll work on TF04 here in a bit. Look234 (talk • contribs) 04:10, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * TF05 also up. Except Picking Flowers and Generation Gap which I don't have unlocked. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 04:35, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks guys. -- Deltaneos (talk) 10:29, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * ... I just remembered that I could extract images directly. So I didn't need to take them or have them unlocked to get their images.
 * The images include the booster box art next to them (File:PickingFlowers-Booster-TF05.png, File:GenerationGap-Booster-TF05.png). Should I make all the other images like that, or should I crop them and only have the booster pack? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 14:51, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Including the box art might be a good idea, given how small the images are. Should we maybe use a different filename for the images that include the box? -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:57, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I have all 60 Box and Booster images each for both (TF05 and TF06, 120 total), so I can make it so that all the TF05 and TF06 images all are the same, so a different filename may be redundant.
 * I'm pretty sure I can do the same for TF04 and below when I get access to them. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 15:02, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Again with the dragon lords D:
Hello deltaneos, i have a problem some person that nominates the article "Dragon Lord" to deletion without enought resasons,if you remember the set of "Rise of the Dragon lords" states cleary "Bring on the Dragon Lords" and Appears Felgrand, Darkblaze and Tyrant...In addition there is an strategy around them, so please try to withdraw the delete nomination. There is not the same thing that like happens with From the Underworld group []because at least the second case has enoght reasons to be deleted until appears more "from the underworld" cards Greetings .--Angellicantropo (talk • contribs) 02:36, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Are you the same person, who was against it being deleted last time it was nominated? Can you please use the talk page to say why you disagree with the deletion. The topic that's already on that talk page is a year old, so you should probably start a new one. -- Deltaneos (talk) 10:35, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Ron.and.Roll Ignored the Warning
It's fourth time he put up "Retro Forum" or whatever that was, it seemed like he did not listening to all warnings that we threw all over his mugs. So by a chance, would he get banning for that reason? -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:08, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Translation Errors
Greetings, I've reached out to you because you seem to be the admin most concerned with Japanese texts and translations.

As you've known, User:Master D is obsessed with using online translators to translate Japanese card names. Also, he has been moving many pages without official TCG card names. Often, his edits are full of mistakes. What's worse is that he is making more mistakes than I can correct him. Moreover, he is undoing my corrections.

Whenever he is confronted by me about the way the words he translated being far too literal, he refuses to admit that he is using an online translator, despite the blatant obviousness, and continues to copy translations from them. Time and time again, he fails to give an educated proof to his rebuttal in discussions about translations.

Right now, it's turning into a "one vs one" argument. I do not intend to go into an edit war with him. I request the intervention of admins and other educated users in this matter. Your opinions on the matter are greatly appreciated. HHT  - (Talk to the Turtle) 15:03, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * We really only argued about Arcane Archer of the Forest. I say that he shouldn't be too literal about translating Kyutsukai as bow user, when it's obviously archer. Even admins have told me not to be too literal. The other argument we had is about Seven Kids, but I accepted that I was wrong about that. I don't know why he's making up stuff that we're arguing. He's clearly starting the arguments because he's angry about being confronted. Mad Rest 15:34, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * It is not only those 2 card articles. There's also the mistakes you've made with Nitwit Outwit, Flaming Star Emperor - Choraio, Centrifugal Field, Anteatereatingant and many, many others. You're whole Talk Page is full of questions about your weird translations from many other users. How oblivious to your own mistakes can you be? HHT   - (Talk to the Turtle) 15:48, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, but why are you saying that I started an edit war over them? I accepted hat I was wrong and didn't argue about it. Show some proof that I argued about them before reporting me! And Centrifugation Field wasn't a wrong translation. Centrifuge and Centrifugation can be used in the same way here, by the way. Mad Rest 15:52, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey, Mister "D", just make your own article and keep all your weirdo translation to yourself, ok? -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  15:56, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I never wanted to report you or get you blocked or banned. I just wanted more expert opinion on the matter. Also, I said that I do not want to start an edit war with you. You did undo my edits multiple times.


 * Also, "Centrifugation" is the process. "Centrifuge" is a thing that performs the process. There are not synonyms.  HHT   - (Talk to the Turtle) 15:57, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Fine, but it's still not that horribly wrong from the previous translation. I meant they were similar, not synonyms, but I edited that. And the reason I'm moving pages with no TCG names is because they are wrong. Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 16:01, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, many translations on this site are incorrect because we don't have many people educated in Japanese here. However, you making numerous mistakes isn't making the situation any better. HHT   - (Talk to the Turtle) 16:07, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't make numerous mistakes. In the case of Anteater, I wanted to keep the Kana, because it's the same as the Syllable cards. They are supposed to be some kind of pun. And it's not bow user, it's archer. I'm not syaing it's incorrect, but even an admin has told me not to be too literal. <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 16:10, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, Mister "D" - I am with Turtle here in the argument - I am also uneducated in Japan, though I am easily educated in cette langue and este idioma. El día bueno, señor. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:12, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * The Syllable cards retain the "Gagaga" and "Achacha" because it has no meaning in Japanese and English. It's like baby talk, trying to translate it is foolish. [オオアリクイクイアリ] does have a specific meaning in Japanese.
 * When Dinoguy1000 told you "not to translate too literally". What he meant was not to do what you did with Nitwit Outwit and others, separating the name into individual words and translating it 1 word by 1 word which is what most online translators do.
 * [魔弓使い] is translated together as a phrase into "Magical Bow Wielder". Furthermore, "A person wielding a bow." and "He is a bow wielder/wielder of bows." are correct grammar-wise. HHT   - (Talk to the Turtle) 16:27, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Do you even know what we're talking about? If you don't know Japanese, you have no reason to support him. You don't even belong in this conversation if you don't know the issue. <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 16:15, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, amigo, the reason why I am here is to "vote" Turtle and maybe Deltaneos if he agreed for this whole argument. I am aware of what the hell is going on around here - you're the one screwing the translation around some bunch of articles and Turtle don't like that. Therefore I am not only here to vote them, but also to advice you to do one thing: Keep your stuffs to yourself. Like myself with my own Judge Rulings that don't belong to Ruling Articles, my own create cards that don't exist in this site, and ever smily that don't making any sense anyways. So now, would you heed my advice or being an asno? -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:20, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm with Fred and Turtle, the wikia has various users, from different countries who different language. It is a bit difficult trying to find someone who actually understand/is educated in Japan. So if you don't have any proof or source, don't throw out names from online translators. Btw Fred has the right and reason to support who he wants to. It is very simple, No source/proof, no naming.-- Laggia Will Lag You (Talk)  16:21, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

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 * You don't get to vote when you're not a Japanese speaker. How the hell do you know if Turtle is right when you don't know Japanese? And no offense, but I doubt you're a judge. I saw you say on a forum post that Trigger Effects can never miss the timing. And no, just because he's a Japanese speaker doesn't mean he's always right. And there's no reason to support him; we're not arguing about card names here. We're giving examples; go to the talk page if you want to respond. <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 16:26, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ding, Source! You need a source to get that name out of your asno. That's all, señor.
 * There is a user that can perfectly speak Japan; III, ask him about your skill and let's see who won at end. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:27, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't know Japanese; I'm not denying that. As I said, we're not talking about card names. If he gives a valid reason as to why a name should be corrected, I'll accept it. <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 16:31, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ding! You don't know the Japanese at last! Now cut it out please, Señor "D". -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:36, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I wasn't exactly hiding it. And what should I cut out?! You don't know what we're talking about. And ou still haven't answered; are you really a judge?! <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 16:39, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Cut your obsessing of put in all wrong Japanese translation. That's so insanity that all other Admins had to hauling over the table to redoing them all right. And have you not bothered by checking my Profile; my career is right there, just walk there and read there. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:42, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * You said that Trigger Effects can't miss the timing. Even if you are a judge, I don't trust you. My translations aren't wrong. You don't even know Japanese, and you fully believe I'm wrong, because we're arguing over various translations. And what admins hauled over fixing my translations?! <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 16:46, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I stood my word: The "Trigger Effects" Monster on the field never missing their timing is, indeed, correct. But the one point that I was wrong in forum; Timing of when they such to be. Like the action of card resolved and the monster with Trigger Effects arrived onto the field too late, would not activating, neither would missing the timing. I am not official Judge. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:50, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Wait, wait! You're not an official judge?! Then what kind of judge are you?! Also, you're wrong. Trigger effects are, like, the only effects that miss the timing. How can you get that wrong?! <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 16:54, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * * point to Monarch* Try making them missing the timing, amigo. And cut that out, we are here to talking about your Japanese obsessing, not the argument over about eff and shits. Deltaneos would shut this topic down if we kept going off topic. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:01, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * The Monarchs are a Trigger Effect monster, but they aren't an Optional Trigger Effect that starts with, "When... you can...". Peten the Dark Clown is a Trigger Effect monster, and it misses the timing. You're a self-proclaimed "judge"; you're supposed to know this. And you're the one straying off-topic. You don't even belong in this conversation. no matter if you're supporting him. <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 17:12, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Nexus included me, so shut up. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:31, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

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 * Yeah, I agree that this is going off-topic. We can maybe resolve this if we focus on the problem and don't fight. So the problem is that Hide Head Turtle thinks too many of Master D's translations are disputed that it's becoming too time consuming having to correct or discuss each one, right? Is there much consistency in what you two are disagreeing on? i.e. Do you think each other are making the same type of mistakes each time? If so we could create a page similar to Project:Arabic card names guidelines for Japanese name translations (Dinoguy's suggestion, btw). Whatever rules or guidelines are put on it are a result of collaborative discussion. Anything on it should be followed and if you disagree with it, go to the policy page's talk page, rather than change translations. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:56, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just to clarify, my suggestion is for a policy page on Japanese translation in general, not just names specifically.
 * We may instead want to rename "Project:Arabic card names guidelines" to "Project:Translation" or the like and generalize it to translating between languages in general, with specific guidelines for individual languages/language pairings as necessary. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:58, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I actually assumed there already was one. <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 23:33, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's scary how quickly this went-off topic. The topic I'm arguing about is that User:Master D should not be basing his Japanese to English translations on online translators.
 * Here are some examples of his edits:
 * Hermit of Prophecy: [魔導老士 エアミット] ---> "Magical Lao-tse Ermite" ([老士] =/= [老子])
 * Treeborn Frog: [黄泉ガエル] ---> "Abyss Gaeru" ([黄泉] has a special meaning than just "Abyss")
 * Desertapir: [砂バク] ---> "Sand Baku" (Card Trivia:Desertapir)
 * Nitwit Outwit: [奇策] ---> "Curious Schemes" (Talk:Nitwit Outwit)
 * Tinplate Archduke: [ブリキの大公] ---> "Buriki Archduke"
 * The Warrior Returning Alive: [戦士の生還] ---> "Alive Return of the Warrior" ([生] = "Life", [還] = "Return", [生還] = "Alive Return"???)
 * Even he himself has admitted to using an online translator for his edits: Talk:Nitwit Outwit. To quote his statement: "Use www.tangorin.com for translating kanji. I will change it if someone doesn't offer a sound counterargument." I'm not saying that my translations are 100% correct. I've even participated in discussions about translating conventions multiple times. However, he has continued with his nonsensical translations, ignoring discussions on the Talk Page.
 * Dinoguy1000 said it best: "If you're using an online translator - any online translator, regardless of advertised, perceived, or actual quality - you've automatically lost the right to declare any translation "incorrect". Machine translation is still years (if not decades) away from even approaching the level of quality and accuracy needed for this type of translation work, and that's if it can happen before the creation of strong AI (which I doubt for a plethora of reasons). In absolutely any situation where I have to pick between what an online translator gives and what a person that knows Japanese gives, I will go with the person every time."
 * A set of established guidelines for Japanese to English translations is a good idea. However, it won't solve the fundamental problem here. The No. 1 important guideline for translations that Master D must follow is to "Never, ever rely on online translators for accurate translations.". HHT   - (Talk to the Turtle) 06:25, July 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Automatic translators are useful, but it's ridiculous to expect perfect translations from them or cite one as proof for a disputed translation.
 * Looking at the "Nitwit Outwit" talk page, Master D doesn't seem to understand that compounds can have a different meaning than the individual kanji. "奇" = "strange", "奇策 = "clever scheme". Other editors have caused problems by translating names one kanji at a time before.
 * Per the "essay" above (may end up on a separate archive than this), a non-English word in katakana doesn't necessarily make it exempt from translating.
 * Do you accept these three points, Master D? If we follow these, that should hopefully lessen the disagreements. -- Deltaneos (talk) 09:09, July 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * That was before I learned how to use the general translations. That's why Nitwit Outwit's was so literal. My translator also gives the translation as clever schemes. And for most of those examples, I didn't use a translator. A baku is a Japanese supernatural-being. Even Wikipedia has an article about it. And I mostly edit those translations which are wrong. Abyss doesn't have a special meaning. It is part of the Yomi/Abyss archetype. For the rest, I wanted to keep the original kana, but now they look just stupid, so I guess they can be translated as frog. And I don't know how I am causing a problem, when none of those translations would've been fixed if I hadn't changed them. Also, my translator didn't give Alive Return as a translation. It gave returning alive, but I didn't have a better way to phrase it for the time being. In fact, for those examples, only Nitwit Outwit was from a translator, and guess what: It also gives the translation as Clever Schemes. And based on results, I'm guessing my translator is 85% of times correct, since I've done way more translations and no one's complaining about those. You just think since I'm using a translator, when a confronting opinion comes up, I will always be in the wrong. Also, what point are you talking about? I will edit translations that are wrong, and if you want them changed, then come up with a valid reason! I mean, I didn't complain when Turtle said Choraio, Anteater and Seven Kids were wrong. <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 13:24, July 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * The No. 1 important guideline for translations that Master D must follow is to "Never, ever rely on online translators for accurate translations.". ~
 * Sorry, buddy, time to cut out your silly action, Mister D. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  13:40, July 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * The reason I told you not to respond on this post is because you're annoying. You never once responded to what I posted; you just keep saying my translations are wrong. Even now, you don't offer a counterargument to what I said; you just say that ALL of my translations are wrong because I use a translator, even though you don't know Japanese or English. Unless you want to say something that is related to my previous post, don't enter this discussion at all! This is the last time I'm responding to you. <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 14:08, July 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Let's not make another fight out of this. If we can be patient and polite, we might sort this out. FredCat, I know you mean well, but it's not nice to keep degrading other people's work, particularly when you don't understand it. They are trying to help too. Master D, yes his Japanese credentials aren't much and he's not adding adequately responding to your new points, but maybe we should try not make something personal of this. We don't want to stray into another off-topic fight. If you don't want to reply to him any further, okay. I guess it's one way of sorting that problem, for now.
 * For "Desertapir", you are okay with the current translation, "Sand Tapir", right?
 * Archetype consistency seems as good a reason as any to choose one translation over another, but correct me if I'm wrong, would it not be better to list "Yomi" as the translated name for all the "Yomi"/"Abyss" cards, rather than "Abyss"? Yomi is the Japanese word for the land of the dead. "Abyss" seems to be the same concept, but from other faiths.
 * You say you're willing to admit a translation is wrong if someone manages to prove it's wrong. That's fine. If you can prove other people's translations are wrong too, that's also fine. I think the problem is in the occurrence rate for these disputes. You and HHT could probably discuss each translation and come to an agreement on each one, but it's not something either of you want to spend most of your free time doing. If we can find some commonality in where wrong translations, whoever they're from, we might be able to reduce their occurrences. Do you think there's any repeating mistakes that HHT keeps making? When did you start using the "general translations" option? It sounds like a step in the right direction. Have there been as many disputed translations since you started using it?
 * I know you say that the majority of your translations are right and most of the stuff you change was definitely wrong beforehand. I haven't checked myself. I'm guessing HHT will have something to say about this. HHT: While you think he is making a lot of mistranslations, do you think he is making a share of correct changes to existing translations? -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:52, July 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * I started using it 2-3 months ago. And the Toonzaki subs, if you can count them as official, translate them as Abyss. <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 16:01, July 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Don't the Toonzaki subs use dub names? Dub names aren't always a direct translation. e.g. they changed "Wicked King" to "Ruler" for "Abyss Ruler Mictlancoatl". -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:45, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

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 * Yes, except in cases where there is no dub name. The Crimson Devil episodes were never dubbed, so the Toonzaki subs are as close to official English names as we'll get in such cases. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:08, July 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * I have approved and defended his edits before, e.g. Talk:Magic-Power-Induced Explosion. Let me be clear on this: I don't choose sides. I only favour good edits.
 * As said before, Yomi is a special name for a special place. It is more akin to the words "Hades" and "Hell". Translating it as "Abyss" causes that special meaning to be lost. I'm not convinced that Toonzaki subs are "reliable enough". They have never intended to translate the Japanese names as consistently as possible. Toonzaki, 4Kids and Konami (TCG) are all subject to censorship laws so many of their English translations are heavily altered to prevent mentions about death, violence, etc.
 * As for his "general translations" method, whatever that is; it has not gotten any better. Here is one of his recent translations: From Gaia Soul the Combustible Collective, [爆炎集合体ガイヤ・ソウル] ---> "Aggregation of Explosive Flames - Gaia Soul". There is so much wrong with this. 1st, "Aggregation" is the process, "Aggregate" is the noun. 2nd, [集合体] should be translated as "Assembly" as in [燃料集合体] (Fuel Assembly). 3rd, [爆炎] is a very difficult word to translate, literally it means "Bursting/Exploding Flames", though together as a phrase it means something along the lines of "Combustible"/"Explosive"/"Inflammable".
 * I think there is a fallacy in your statement: "And based on results, I'm guessing my translator is 85% of times correct, since I've done way more translations and no one's complaining about those.". 1st, you don't understand any Japanese at all, how would you know when the translations you are getting from it is right or wrong? 2nd, 85% is not good enough. 3rd, I've been fixing many of your edits. 4th, plenty of users have been complaining about your edits.
 * To address your next statement: "You just think since I'm using a translator, when a confronting opinion comes up, I will always be in the wrong.", I don't think that you are always wrong. I just think that since you are relying heavily on online translators, you are not a certified translator, meaning you have never earned the right to declare other people's translations as being right or wrong. Also, you have never given intellectual and educated rebuttals in our discussions which further affirms the above remark.
 * Lastly, this is all said with no offence to you or your being. You are very passionate about your edits as do most users here. However, please be open to criticism from other users. Under any sort of circumstance, there is no need to be emotional on the internet. HHT   - (Talk to the Turtle) 06:24, July 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * You're wrong about Gaia Soul. Check this: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aggregation You can see that an aggregation is a collection of parts, not just the process, therefore it is correct. Bakuen means explosive flame. I didn't even need a translator for that. No matter if it's used in different ways, it can't get any clearer. You just want to translate too literally. That's why you translate Kyutsukai as Bow User. That is the correct translation, but you even said to me that I translated Nitwit Outwit just by looking at the kanji, and this is what you're doing now. It is Archer, no matter how you look at it. The only way to wield bows is through the use of archery. <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 13:20, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying that your Gaia Soul translation is wrong; it's just there are more ways to translate it, and my translation isn't incorrect, just because there are different synonyms to it. You offer synonyms to my words, and expect people to believe it's the translator's fault for not offering those exact synonyms. <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest  13:23, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, Naraku is translated as Hell. Shouldn't it just be Naraku? As for Yomi, since it's the closest official English source, we must go with that. I mean, we follow the English video games and their translations, don't we? <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 13:30, July 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Video games and Toonzaki are legitimate sources for official English names. As we all know, official English names aren't always translations of the Japanese name. They didn't use an exact translation when they changed "Jaō" (Wicked King) to "Ruler", so they didn't necessarily use an exact translation when they changed "Yomi" to "Abyss" in the same name. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:42, July 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, if it's a concept similar to Hell, rather than the Japanese word for Hell, I personally think "Sun of Naraku" would be a more suitable translation than "Sun of Hell". -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:58, July 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey, Maddy Rest... shut up and accept it! -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  13:35, July 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm failing to understand your logic here, Master D. HHT: [爆炎] ---> "Combustible" is too literal??? Master D: [爆炎] ---> "Explosive Flames" is ok??? Do you understand the meaning of the word "literal"? Fine, I've changed [弓使い] to "Archer" since you always ignore my other points. As for Gaia Soul, "Aggregation" and "Assembly" do have similar meaning. However, that doesn't mean you can use them interchangeably. As I've shown, the name is paralleling the word [燃料集合体] which is called "Fuel Assembly" in English. If you told an Engineer that you call that thing a "Fuel Aggregation", he would look at you funny. This is why I emphasizes the inclusion of context in translations so much. Words in English that have similar meaning don't usually have the same usage. Which words to use is always governed by context.
 * Another example of your blatant ignorance for context, "Naraku" is the name for "Hell" in Japanese Buddhism while "Yomi" is the land of the dead which is often portrayed in Japanese Mythology and the "Shinto" Religion. Using them interchangeably is absolutely incorrect. Also, telling a Japanese person that "Yomi" is some sort of "Abyss" will garner the same reaction from telling a Greek person that "Hades" and the "Elysian Fields" are just some sort of "Abyss".
 * Yes, we do obtain English names from video games, Toonzaki Subs, 4Kids and Konami(TCG). However, that doesn't mean we should obtain translations from them as well. The word "Abyss" is used in the Toonzaki Subs but it shouldn't be in the "trans" section. Remember that is was Master D who added that word "Abyss" into the "trans" section of the Treeborn Frog article.
 * Lastly, the edits by Master D have been getting worse. Example from Silver Sentinel: [白銀のスナイパー] ---> "Silvery Snow Sniper"??? "Snow"? What "Snow"? Yes, there is snow is the card's artwork but nowhere is it mentioned in the card's name. Also, the translation was fine before you decided to mess with it. If you have no clue what you are doing, then I suggest you take some time to reconsider your edits. HHT   - (Talk to the Turtle) 07:45, July 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Silvery Snow Sniper was its previous name. I didn't translate it. I just added it in the trans parameter. And it doesn't mean White Silver. It means either Silver or Snow. This time, you seem to be translating too literally. The previous translator, I'm guessing, translated it as both. I have no qualms about the trans parameter about Yomi. I agree that the translated should be Yomi. I was just talking about the English name. And I fail to find how bakuen means combustible, when kanen means inflammable, combustible, burnable, not bakuen. <font color="silver" size="2px">Mad <font color="gold" size="2px">Rest 12:50, July 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Now, you're just being foolish. [白銀] (hakugin) means "White Silver" or "Silvery White". It's not a matter of "translating literally", it means nothing else. Also, there is no mention of "Snow" in the name. What the heck are you talking about? [可燃] means "Can be ignited" or "Inflammable". [爆炎] means something along the lines of "about to burst into flames" or "Inflammable" or "Combustible". Again, mean almost the same thing but cannot be used interchangeably. HHT   - (Talk to the Turtle) 16:04, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

New Set Page Design
Hey Delta I just wanted to check if the new set page design is good to go? If so I'll start to update the pages as I go now. ^_^ Look234 (talk • contribs) 13:53, July 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, good to go. It's already set up on a few pages. Any help rolling it out is appreciated. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:59, July 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Can do! I'll let you know if I run into any trouble. ^_^ Look234 (talk • contribs) 14:02, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Traditional Format vandalism

 * Can you lock this page? It's being constantly vandalized by that Ron.and.Roll guy.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 17:23, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've given him a block warning since he's been doing this on other pages too. I doubt we'll need to lock it after this. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:44, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

DGA's suggestion
[21:51] <@DemonGodAsura> I wish Deltaneos were here... [21:53] <@DemonGodAsura> On the upcoming sets, I think that "TCG exclusive" should be changed to "World premiere card", and that "OCG exclusive" should be changed to "OCG import" or something similar. --YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 20:59, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just relaying:


 * I assume you're talking about the unknown cards in lists for upcoming TCG sets. They sound good to me. The old names were a bit illogical. I don't see any reason not to change them. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:25, July 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Main reason being that Konami use the term/phrase "World premiere card" to introduce/describe the new "exclusive" cards introduced in the sets. DemonGodAsura (talk • contribs) 04:55, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Block log
I just had a look through the block log after blocking an IP. I noticed that that are multiple cases in the early years of the wiki where IPs were blocked indefinitely (and thus are still blocked to this day). Isn't this generally frowned upon (or even against general Wikia policy)? And if we are permitted to permanently block IPs, then I have a few I'd like to block myself. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:32, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Or just call it on this board? If you wish to get IP block power, just call for "IP Block" Admins article, much like with Admin itself. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  03:41, July 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Fred, you're missing the point. Any admin can block anyone. I just blocked two IPs in the last twenty-four hours. I'm talking about permanent IP blocks, meaning anyone using that IP address can never edit again. Which I was given to understand was not something that should ever been done. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:44, July 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah ok, forgot that you had Admin member card pinning on your shirt. I think I have seen couple Admins, like Blue or this Admin (DeltaNeos) managed to lock up very few users into permanent ban. But that's age ago, when I was immature user. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  03:46, July 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * There are some very limited circumstances where indef-blocking an IP is okay (the English Wikipedia, for instance, indef-blocks known proxies and TOR exit nodes), but generally it's a bad idea. The 108 indef-blocked IPs should probably have their blocks lifted, unless there's a very good reason to leave them indef-blocked. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:58, July 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's what I thought. I suppose I'll go unblock a few now, I have a few minutes. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:11, July 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Guess that I remembered well... It was definite DeltaNeos and Blue that literally mopped the floor with bad IP-Addressed Users. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  04:26, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

LC3 Token
Hey Deltaneos, I just wanted to explain why I made my edit. I know that they're all printed as "Token" but most people, and the wikia itself refer to them by the monster on the card. So I thought calling the tokens the Kuriboh token and the Emmisary of Darkness token was sufficient. Besides, isn't saying "with "Kuriboh Token" illustrations" also doing the same thing, saying that they're actually named that? The problem I have with that is shouldn't it be more like "with Kuriboh illustrations/art.

How about something like:
 * 3 Ultra Rare "Token" cards; 2 feature "Kuriboh" illustrations and 1 features an "Emissary of Darkness" illustration.

The first part tells them they're named "Token". The second part allows people to still see the artwork, but doesn't name them "Kuriboh Token". - 魔法師 MoFaatSi (talk • contribs) (talk • contribs) 07:06, July 27, 2012 (UTC)