Forum:Debris Dragon Q.

So I have a question about this which was brought up with my friends while we were playing.

Player A has a Debris Dragon in their hand. And they have a Lonefire Blossom in their graveyard.

Player A's Turn. Player A Normal summons Debris Dragon and uses it's effect to Special Summon Lonefire Blossom.

Player B activates nothing and allows the Special Summon to go through.

Player A then tributes Lonefire Blossom to Special Summon Dandylion from the deck.

Player B argues that when Lonefire Blossom gets special summoned via Debris Dragon, it's effects are negated and that it cannot use it's own effect to tribute itself.

Player A says that they have been able to do that at previous tournaments and such.

Player B argues that he says that there has been a ruling change on the subject, and that the combo doesn't work anymore.

Basically: is Player B right? I have not heard of a ruling change about it recently, and I want to make sure which one is right so that I don't screw up in tournaments.

2nd Question. Does Papilloperative's effect of the monster losing attack still linger if it doesn't exist on the field?

EX: Photon Papilloperative uses it's ability to detach a material in order to flip the opponent's monster face-down position into face-up attack position.

The monster turns out to be penguin soldier, and uses it's flip effect to return papilloperative to the extra deck. Does penguin still lose attack?

Shikaru777 (talk • contribs) 06:38, November 2, 2012 (UTC)