Forum:Gladiator Beast Brigade

This is the improved gladiator beast deck and its a whole lot better so thanks for your suggestions takuma & blue eyes white boy.

Side Deck
 * Prohibition
 * Lightning Vortex
 * Light-Imprisoning Mirror
 * Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror
 * Mind Control


 * Congrats on the new deck and hope your build works out, just remember to switch around the deck if so and so card isn't working. As for your sideboard take a look at the Card Twister, it is an excellent sideboard against anti meta the counter to your deck pretty much. Other than that stick an extra copy of waboku at least in your sideboard to add more defense with tagging if need be, if they attack and you suspect they have honest waboku solves the honest problem in a way. Also I read that you don't draw chariot that often so the two equestes probably could be put to one equeste and just add another chariot. Usually I don't find much use in bringing back a GB card from grave other than chariot considering that I think Darius' effect is one of the best for GB's even if the tagged in monster gets no effect and goes back to deck if darius is removed from field.
 * By the way sangan can stay (Since it searches kitty...slower but searches kitty and stuff, and Spirit reaper is good depending on area and play styles, here Spirit reaper is useless due to destruction by effect.)
 * I actually built a test deck based of GB's but with a strategy I haven't seen too often (Its only missing one OCG card x 3 but it works.) so now I "Technically" have a GB deck (not real, proxied but I do use it as my # 2 deck since I will eventually buy all the cards for the top 2 decks I test.)
 * Trap dustshoot might save you from honest but...war chariot also does that so meh =/. Same ending different method, I find late game draw for trap dustshoot sucks big time since your opponent may or may not have 4 cards in hand because they exhaust their hand. Bottomless should be run at x 2 but mehs whatever works =/.--Takuma. 05:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I like sequels...

 * Don't worry, Takuma, I promise to be more constructive and less arguementive. You are right about the Equestes, in this case, because its not worth it with only 2 War Chariots. Try to get another, Gyzarus, if you can. So, minus 1 Equeste.


 * Please, rid yourself of Spirit Reaper or Sangan. Sangan is too slow for the format; the only thing you want to set these days it Hoplomus. As for Spirit Reaper, the only reason you saw him in the old Prisma format was for CCV. He is also too slow. So, take out the Sangan or the Reaper.


 * Your card ratio is way off, as it is: 23, 11, 8. You need to lower your monster count, I suggest taking out a Darius. That will make a total of 41 cards. If you find a certain card a dead draw many times, or just not needed for your current format, take it out. By the way, the normal Gladiator card ratio is around: 18, 11, 11 - you need less monsters because of their searchability, and more traps to counter the many threats facing Gladiators.


 * I like having Book of Moons and Enemy Controllers, but I find when you have two Books and one E Con, I would rather have a total of three Book of Moons and no Controller, because of its unsurpassed versatility and effectiveness.


 * Ok, so in total, take out:

1 Gladiator Beast Equeste

1 Sangan or Spirit Reaper (both would be much better)

1 Darius, D.D. Crow, or a card you seem to hate to draw

1 Enemy Controller (lesser than the Book)


 * To fill in the gaps I made, I think you should put in:

1-2 Proving Grounds (they are worth it)

1 Book of Moon (a playset of these will serve you better)


 * I hope these tips will help you in your duels! These ideas are all subject to playstyle and local meta. --bewk 20:25, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

glads
do you think i should put in 2 Phoenix Wing Wind Blast and take out Enemy Controller.Sangan is for searching out test kitty cat or rescue cat and yes i call Test Tiger test kitty cat.takuma what are you talking about card twister i dont know what that is.--Gyzarus 05:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I was refferring to your sideboard (Side Deck), the cards you switch in and out to counter your counter strategy. Twister is a very popular card for that its a quick play spell that says. Pay 500 LP destroy one face up sp/tr on the field. Needless to say it is one of the quickest and best side deck choices against decks like Anti-Metagame decks that use things like skill drain, royal oppression, field spells, and other cont trap cards.


 * Also I didn't notice you EXCLUDED proving grounds in there (I thought it was already in there so I kinda skipped the spell area). Take out One Equeste and the enemy controller for those two proving grounds. Replace trap dustshoot with book of moon if you like (Book is nice to have in threes but really two works well enough.).
 * My GB build is...well odd, I decided to go non mainstream pure Kitty/Prisma build since I was tired of seeing that. It uses three book of moons.


 * Darius can stay since again I think darius' effect is one of the best, like Laquari's and Bestiari's. Again I like GB reitiari better than DD Crow because of searchability and usefulness but I think you should take out crows and add in one Reitiari and one more bottomless (Extremely good nowadays, No joke.).


 * Short version
 * -1 equeste
 * -1 Enemy controller
 * -1 Trap Dustshoot
 * -2 Crow
 * +2 Proving grounds
 * +1 GB reitiari
 * +1 Bottomless trap hole
 * +1 Book of moon/War chariot. (Depends on your local decks...if a lot of people run mirror matches book is probably better, Chariot = GB in grave = Bad = Darius brings it back = Really bad if its Bestiari.)
 * Do not put in phoenix wing blast, its not worth it in this deck to use and you do not need it.
 * Oh yeah and your card ratio's are fine, cold wave makes you rely on your monsters so more monsters can help. Spirit reaper could be taken out though...for Summon Priest, same with the extra book of moon/war chariot I suggested. Summon Priest + Rescue Kitty = Epic deck thinning.--Takuma. 05:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I can somewhat agree with Takuma on this issue, but you miss the point of my suggestions.


 * I took out and added cards to either lower the total card count or create a better potency for the deck. With the lack of a playset of Chariots, 2 Equestes are not needed. One will do.


 * Do not use Wind Blasts, for they are a -1 in total: Set PWWB (-1), discard (-1), bounce a card (+1). Simple math. Gladiator Beasts already suffer from low hand counts, so using Wind Blasts will not help that.


 * I recommed a playset of Book of Moons because of the playability, and for an unusual ruling. It states: "When "Gladiator Beast Darius" is flipped face-down, its effect disappears and the effects of the Special Summoned "Gladiator Beast" monster are no longer negated." Book of Moon can flip Darius face-down, therefore activating the Summoned Gladiators effect.


 * Remove a Stratos for a Summoner Monk, because it can do anything Stratos can, plus much more, and in a better fashion (definitely not fashion sense).


 * The ratio is wrong, with the current ratio, you will get a fistful of monsters much more often. It also makes it harder to draw the wanted cards at the right time. Believing in the heart of the cards dosen't stop dead draws...


 * This is what it should look like:

-1 Equeste

-1 Enemy Controller

-1 Trap Dustshoot

-2 Crow

-1 Sangan

-1 Spirit Reaper

+1 Summoner Monk

+2 Proving Grounds

+1 Retiari

+1 Book of Moon


 * Try not to just throw cards in - you must take out cards while adding cards, and try to stick to 40-41 cards. I will keep testing a playset of Waves.


 * Also, Gyzarus, what is your local Meta (what decks you duel alot), because 3 Cold Waves against Lightsworn or other Gladiators may be hurting you more than helping, due to the high amount of chainable spell/traps and their non-reliance on them. By the way, your welcome!!!

--bewk 23:50, 15 April 2009 (UTC)