User talk:Cheesedude

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Some Decks
Should we really list the Decks of Ponta and Abyss on Girag's and Rio's pages? The Decks don't belong to either and they were possessed during the Duels, so they were merely there as hosts. At most, i'd say to list it in their Duel list e.g. Lose (possessed; using Abyss' Deck) with "Abyss' Deck" linking to the Decklist on his own profile page. What do you think? TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 19:38, May 8, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sort of neutral either way. I prefer to keep them listed on both pages, but if we only do one, then yeah, it should be the one who was in control. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:49, May 8, 2014 (UTC)


 * That's cool. Well just thought i'd propose the idea to you anyway. Also, could you delete Rex's Deck page since i've moved the Decks to their own pages. Thanks. TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 13:28, May 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * Done. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:49, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

Genryu aren't related to serpents... but too late.
As to your edit... it removes the point to put it in the description, and makes it a bit misleading. I was indicating how the obviously poor naming of "Wyrm" is indicative of the exact opposite of what we are seeing the archetype to be (Wyrm becomes Serpent in Old English; being half-right in the wrong language doesn't help it at all), in the same manner as "Fairy". It's certainly a bit of trivia, and not something that needs hidden from knowledge, if not should be blatantly noted to make it clear from the get-go (especially with the site's wonderful new approach of adding the Japanese wording of many things to show how they really relate despite the poor translation jobs).

As for your question (rhetorical as it may be), I would say "It should simply have been left as "Genryu". Considering that they are being a variant of Dragon, but distinctly Eastern in design, it would obviously be quite fitting both for description and theme to do so. But, as it's already got an official name, I can only do as I already do with the Angels: be glad I only collect the real cards: Japanese-language.

Thanks for being polite about it at least. Sorry I talk a lot; I just always get all of my mind out at once, so it becomes quite a bit. Jarie スイクン 03:03, May 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * Some things need to be localized. All things considered, I'm happy with "Angel" becoming "Fairy", especially given that there are many monsters of that type that do resemble fairies far more than angels. It also works the other way around. As to "Wyrm", I would note that we may see the same thing. We only have what, six or seven examples for the Type so far. All of them save the Armed Dragon variant resemble Eastern dragons. But we've had regular old Dragon-Types in the past that also do. In future sets, we may very well see non-Eastern looking dragons be Wyrm Types. Konami's localization staff would know that before hand and could take it into account when choosing the English Type name. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 11:38, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

New problem with images
Although I uploaded newer versions of old images, they still show the old versions (at least for the ones that I overwrote). Will the new mover rights I got from Golden Key help correct this problem? If so, how do I use it?Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 16:50, May 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Its a caching problem that will fix itself eventually. There's nothing we can do but wait. Don't worry about it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:53, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

ARC-V manga
So, you know about the one shot chapter which will be published this month, right? I've been adding the info we know already in the character pages and stuff, but... Since it's just a special chapter and not an actual manga series, should we already consider creating an article for "Yu-Gi-Oh! ARC-V (manga)" (the DD (archetype), for example, only appears in this one shot) and articles like "Yuya Sakaki (manga)"? For the time being I added the info in Yuya's and Akaba's anime articles. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:03, May 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Just keep them on the anime pages for now, yes. When and if a proper manga is confirmed, we can move them. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:37, May 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * So for now, how do I cope with the DD (archetype) page? (regarding the "appears in") Do I put it just "| manga = Yu-Gi-Oh! ARC-V"? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:05, May 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * That's fine. If I get a better idea, I'll let you know. XD. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:10, May 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Done. I made a brief clean-up in the Yu-Gi-Oh! ARC-V and added a section for the manga. We leave this special chapter's stuff together with the anime articles for now, then. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:32, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

But you see... Adding "manga_av =" to a card automatically puts a "ARC-V (manga)" link in the article... LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:45, May 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * I would suggest you activate the Dinoguy signal. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:36, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Custom Videos
Hi Cheesedude,

I wanted to reach out to see if we could produce some cool custom videos for you this summer. You've probably noticed the new 'Must Watch' video module in the right rail. These videos come from our library on http://video.wikia.com. We can produce some videos for you on whatever topic you think would resonate, and then they will show up in that module. I was thinking we could make a few about some of the bigger events listed in your upcoming calendar http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/2014 For example, a video about "Duelist Alliance - What You Need to Know!", based on http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Duelist_Alliance

Let me know what you and others here think about all this. Thanks. Peter 18:28, May 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * This is pretty intriguing. I'll need some time to gather ideas and talk it over with some others, but I'm certainly interested. Thank you. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:38, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

"ryuusei" translation
When you said "It has the same connotation as "Dragonstar" without being as literal.", you meant this Dragonstar? What's the point in that (fyi, I don't really understand what you said)? How does that have anything to do with the translation as "Dragon Star"? How come "Cosmic Dragon" is accurate? It sounds kinda cool and somewhat suits the TCG name patterns better and is good for the English naming, but that doesn't make it accurate. If only you could tell me "ryusei" is an actual word, and it means "Cosmic Dragon"! But it is not! Except for it being a Japanese proper name, of course, it is a PUN.Take Fumikô (talk • contribs) 03:16, May 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * "Sei" can mean more things than just "star". "Ryu" can mean more things than just "dragon". "Cosmic" and "star" have more or less the same connotation, ergo "Cosmic Dragon" is perfectly acceptable translation. Stars are cosmic objects. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 09:18, May 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Agree that a Kanji letter can have different meanings, but that's not an excuse. Considering the Kanji order, "Cosmic Dragon" could only be perfect for "Seiryuu" or something like that, not "Ryuusei". I could give you a simple example: "神風" would mean "divine wind", but "風神" would be more likely "god of wind". I know the Organization have tried to pick up the best names that is most likely to turn official, and "Cosmic Dragon" DOES sound cool and all, but in regard with accurate translation, it's not so brilliant an idea. Take Fumikô (バカアキ) (talk) 10:25, May 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm inclined to agree. "Cosmic Dragon" is synonymous with "Dragon of Stars", while "Ryuusei" means "Star of Dragons". As in, the name doesn't seem to refer to the dragons themselves, but rather a celestial object related to them. "Dragon Cosmos" might be a workable translation. Emmic (talk • contribs) 10:42, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Incorrect Text
On the page of http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Pendulum_Summon there is a discrepancy with the text written of: A Pendulum Summon cannot be negated by cards like "Solemn Warning", if more than one monster is summoned, as "Solemn Warning" and cards similar to it, specifically say to negate the summon of one monster. However, if they only summon one monster, then it can be negated by the effect of "Solemn Warning".[5]. However, you can "Bottomless Trap Hole" the monsters summoned, due to the card saying monster(s), not monster, thus being able to deal with multiple monsters at once. Note 5's link has nothing on solemn warning at all and is not a proper citation. Also in the OCG content it states the negation of 1 summon in the text which would allow the use of solemn warning against a mass pendulum summon and where pendulum summoning is currently in OCG territory only solemn warning should be able to work against a pendulum summon where its text again states 1 summon. Also in due part on that same page of: http://www.ygorganization.com/ocg-pendulum-summon-mg04-starter-deck-2014-rulings/

It states under pendulum summoning: Q: If 2 or more monsters are Special Summoned by a Pendulum Summon, are they considered to be Special Summoned simultaneously? A: In that case, those monsters are considered to be Special Summoned simultaneously by a single Special Summon.

And where Solemn Warnings OCG text states 1 summon warning should be able to negate the summon of a pendulum summon of 2 or more monsters. Which would mean that last edit was incorrect. If you could please take another look at this and change the text if needed it would greatly be appreciated. Josephxppc (talk • contribs) 22:31, May 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * I am not the admin to go to for card ruling related stuff. I would try UltimateKuriboh. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:36, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Yuma, Shark and Kaito
They certainly are quite large. Yeah, I think we should split them up for now until we come up with something else. TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 15:07, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Blank
In 5D's Ride 58, the Duel Dragon cards of Rua, Ruka and Kiryu appear, but only blank (Jack's is the only one who appears normally AND becoming blank). Does that count as a card apparition? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:52, May 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * I would say yes for Jack and no for the rest. Assuming that by blank you mean Mark of the Dragon (card). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:06, May 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, I do. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 01:19, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the information me and my friends are trying to freeze frame at the exact right moments to piece together the frames we need to complete the cards picture. The text may not be completely saveable but were sure the picture of Gagaga Samurai on it is! :)

Fatalfox (talk • contribs) 07:46, May 30, 2014 (UTC)Fatalfox

Gagaga Samurai Thanks you!
Thank you for the information me and my friends are trying to freeze frame at the exact right moments to piece together the frames we need to complete the cards picture. The text may not be completely saveable but were sure the picture of Gagaga Samurai on it is! :)

Fatalfox (talk • contribs) 07:48, May 30, 2014 (UTC)Fatalfox

Dark Dust Spirit missed in the List of Zombie-Type monsters
i tryed to add that card to the list, but i didin't find a way of editing it. Can you do it, please? --OnePiece (talk • contribs) 22:11, June 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Its an SMW glitch. Try clearing your cache and then refreshing the page. If it doesn't appear after that, there's not much to be done aside from waiting. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:14, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Content Removal
You forgot to remove the manga info from Jesse's article. --  The Talk Goblin 15:36, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Could you delete this page? Its content has been moved to corresponding character articles. --  The Talk Goblin 11:51, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. Missed that one. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:12, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * BTW, what are we going to do with episode 8 duel summary? You stated in a edit summary that the duel doesn't begin until the next episode. Should we therefore remove the duel summary from episode 8 and incorporate it into episode 9? --  The Talk Goblin 16:42, June 8, 2014 (UTC)


 * Nothing. That part was shown, it can be kept, I think just find it misleading to otherwise imply that the Duel started. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:11, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Could you also delete this leftover redirect? --  The Talk Goblin 18:23, June 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * This redirect needs to be deleted too. --  The Talk Goblin 17:53, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

Archetype Navboxes
Hey Cheese, I noticed that a few of the navboxes aren't defining cards as part of or support for an archetype, such as Des Imp Scissor for Furnimals and some members of the Superheavy Samurai and Fantasia archetypes. I checked on both Chrome and Safari to see if it was just the browser I used, but it was the same for both. Is it for you? I thought that these sort of things took a few days to resolve, but it's been like it for weeks (and I have never seen Des Imp Scissor classed as support for the Furnimals in their navbox). TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 11:52, June 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, something is wonky with SMW. Wikia has mentioned they plan to upgrade to use use LUA (I don't actually know what that is, but Dinoguy says its a good thing, xd). Hopefully, the issues were will be fixed soon. If you've cleared your cache, there's naught to do but wait, unfortunately. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:23, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

Character Heading Addition
Hey Cheese, the wiki navigation bar at the top of the pages needs Arc-V added to the character's area. Screenshot. -- Dark Ace SP ( Talk ) 23:45, June 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * Dinoguy got it. Thanks for pointing it out. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:13, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

Future Visions
I'll admit that I haven't seen the episode, but there appears to be an inconsistency between pages if that is the case. The Card Appearances page only mentions it sending them from his Deck to the Graveyard. Since Divine Neos can Special Summon itself using Neo-Spacians from the field and Graveyard (in the anime) anyway, it would seem unnecessary to use that card to send Panther to the Graveyard from the field. Anyway, having not seen the episode, I can't really say, so if it is the Card Appearances page that is wrong, please fix that then. -- Snorlax Monster  12:17, June 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Actually, I'm not quite sure how Future Visions and Divine Neos interacted. I'll get someone to check both translations, then edit the pages accordingly. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:44, June 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok, turns out the duel summary was completely wrong and I was crossing the effect listed there in my head with the actual effect. The Card Appearances pages had it 100% right though. Corrected everything now. Thanks, Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:30, June 23, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding Aster
Hey, sorry to bother you with this, but I've been in a minor (emphasis on minor) edit war with MaxMicster regarding Aster's page (though for the sake of peace, I kept it minor), but we just can't come to the same conclusion regarding the structure of the following sentence.
 * "Aster is stated by Maximillion Pegasus the creator of Duel Monsters as one of the best duelists he has ever seen, listing him along with Yugi Muto, the previous King of Games and Seto Kaiba as the greatest duelist."

I've changed it properly twice now and it's been reverted. I'm also concerned that the article itself has too many images that both shouldn't be there and mess up the structure, but that just seems to be me. Again, sorry to bother you with this. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 20:17, June 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Don't apologize for asking me. Its one of the reasons I'm here.
 * Is it just the wording of the sentence that's the problem or some of the content. Need a little more info here.
 * The article does indeed have too many images for the amount of text it has. Rather than remove images though, I'd prefer to see the article expanded to accommodate more images. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:23, June 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * The sentence basically (and redundentally) states the same thing twice (it's a bit painful to look at), so it's the wording rather than the content. As for the images, though, many of them don't even feature Aster in them, which leads me to believe that they shouldn't be there (I haven't changed them based on how defensive he's been getting.) I might note that he also added in that Aster was "a child prodigy and Doctor" (I think he tried renaming the page to "Doctor Aster Phoenix" once), after it had been stated that Aster was never called as such in the show as thus shouldn't be in the article proper.
 * Yikes. Now I feel like I'm nitpicking.

Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 01:32, June 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * In that case, the stuff after Kaiba's name can be dropped, then. Redundant for sure.
 * The images don't always have to feature the character. There's little reason an image wouldn't have him in it, but it depends on the article. A pic of some of his monsters strikes me as fine. I'll look though.
 * I recall that rename, yes. That was...yeah... Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:35, June 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 01:49, June 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sure. Let me know if he starts up again. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:03, June 24, 2014 (UTC)

M-HEROes
Say, which image do you think it's better for the Masked HERO article, the current one or this one? (without the text, of course) LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:40, June 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * I prefer the current one. The other one has more members, but the current shows the two that it does much clearer, which I think is more important in this case. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:41, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding Sanokal and edit
I agree with a lot of the stuff you did to Phoenix's page like some of the stuff you did with some of the the subsections.

First, looking back at the sentence it was simply trying to state how Pegasus finds his top listed duelist as the greatest duelist.

The only thing is that the sentence says "best"     then   "greatest"  confusing the poor guy, when admittedly it probably should've just said "greatest" as "best" isn't really the specific word to use.

Second, I didn't start any edit problems, it was that guy that started constantly rearranging things, not the other way around. Thats how this all began. The guy has been on my ass ever since his first edit there has not stop haunting me since, almost like hes on a mission from god or something.

I dont get why you named one of the sections Jaden vs Aster 2 ...          I mean couldn't you at least named it something a bit better, no offense or anything, I understand if the previous title was a bit long but the new one sounds ... well pretty darn lame.

Finally cheese, lets get this thing Doctor thing straight. Looking at what you said on your recent revision it looks like you were trying to say that I said that Aster didn't have two PhD's. I never said he didn't ... so ...

You are definitely right about removing "Doctor" from Phoenix's occupation, hes most likely not a medical doctor, it doesn't seem to be related to anything that he does for a living. Putting it in occupation was definitely a mistake on my part.

On another note even you have to admit cheese theirs no denying these pages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor ~ the personal titles section

and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_%28title%29

While not seeming to be his occupation, he personally deserves the "title" as doctor for achieving doctorates as such people are automatically granted the titles.

Although, its not up to me, its up to you. This action needs your approval, should we put Dr. or Doctor in Aster's name or will you just leave it as it is?

Well yeah, that was pretty much it for now, just clearing air and things up.MaxMicster (talk • contribs) 04:48, June 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * The sentence was redundant, that's all. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 11:29, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * Change the section header if you want, doesn't matter.
 * Yes, he is technically a doctor. It does not matter. He is said to have two PhDs in an off-hand remark that has no bearing on the plot or even on his character. Mentioning he has the PhDs should suffice, there is no reason to refer to him as "Doctor Aster Phoenix". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 11:29, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Ok, that's fine.MaxMicster (talk • contribs) 14:17, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

"All video game lores should be on each page when possible"?

 * Not sure if this policy is a good idea. There's at least 24 different video games that have available sections; for most early cards, wouldn't that mean bloating the section and stacking up 25 completely identical lores just to show that it exists and hasn't changed? We don't list anime lores when they're identical (my go-to example is "Stardust Dragon") and I don't see why we should; why not apply the same for video games? Blueapple128 (talk • contribs) 16:36, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

"All video game lores should be on each page when possible"?
Not sure if this policy is a good idea. There's at least 24 different video games that have available sections; for most early cards, wouldn't that mean bloating the section and stacking up 25 completely identical lores just to show that it exists and hasn't changed? We don't list anime lores when they're identical (my go-to example is "Stardust Dragon") and I don't see why we should; why not apply the same for video games? Blueapple128 (talk • contribs) 16:37, July 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * Eventually, we'll have video game card articles split out, so the lores would be displayed there instead. The CardTable revamp is still pending though. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:27, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

DDD
Yo, sorry for always recurring to you, but it seems people don't usually check Talk Pages... *___*' Would you check Talk:DDD please? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 22:34, July 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sort of waiting for the Org to decide. I'll bring it up when I can, as we most definitely do need to standardize them. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:44, July 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, I see. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 18:36, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re
Regarding your edit summery. For Mizael, well it was the first time we have someone imply that the teleport and dimension travel was their own tech and not something they got as a Barian. I looked at the series end, and everyone flying was actually just the Emperors key letting them. I really did question why Alito could still produce a red glow when he's suppose to have lost his Barian powers (materializing a Duel Disk he could have done in his past life at one point). On the other hand as you said, they were rather vaque in how they said, they always say lose their powers, but they never say all of it, so I suppose they could retain some abilities, just not the Barian Morph or Number use (I think Astral probably just took out Don Thousand's power from their Numbers with the Numeron code, so they don't have to have Barian power to use them). Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 13:05, July 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not saying that flying wasn't a Barian power. I'm saying that it just wasn't part of what Thousand was talking about in that instance. The Over-Hundreds and Bariamorph were directly tied to Thousand's power, apparently. The rest of the Barian powers, while still Barian powers, exist independently of him.
 * I assumed the Over-Hundreds just ceased to when Nasch died, but I suppose them still existing without Barian power makes just as much sense, actually.
 * Ultimately, I don't think we need to mention it at all in the articles, sense any explanation just causes us to speculate. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:56, July 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * I wasn't trying to imply that I was going to insert guesses in the articles (I'm against that). I always strive to put what is true but not go beyond (though I do like adding an extra point to further prove some stuff, the points being true ones of course). In this case, I have to agree with not mentioning the Mizael thing given they all retained their other powers even after they lost in a match after getting their memories back. Have you ever wondered if the Yuma part of Astral thing was too rushed? I mean why wait until the last 3 episodes to tell us that (what does it make his family, are they not his actuall family and just adopted him? It's something to really think about. And even then there's the question of how Yuma existed this long given the battle with Don Thousand happened far far years before the current Zexal events; that includes the Seven Barian Emperors growing up in their previous life)? I will dare say I think Zexal ll may just be my favorite in the entire franchise though (though I love 5D's a lot too). Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 00:18, July 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * I didn't think you would, but just making sure. The end of ZEXAL was very rushed, yes. I could easily think up an entire arc's worth of additional duels that were hinted it (lack of another YumavVector, another YumavKite for starters). I felt the bit with Yuma being a piece of Astral was sort of a pointless addition. It seems meant to tie back in with Kazuma's comment to Mirai in episode 121 - "Yuma chose us". But its still very vague and I would have preferred it to not be there. Did they think it was needed to explain Shining Draw? If so, there were better explanations. The best theory I can think up is s that since the Numbers are pieces of Astral/his memories, that Yuma is literally Hope in human form. Or something, I dunno. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:24, July 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * I always felt the Tron send off wasn't so good. His sons got great send off Duels with their Numbers and Chaos forms, yet all Tron does is hault the worlds (which is still big). It would have been so much better if they had Tron find out his sons were gone, and then he showed up and fought Don Thousand, angry for losing his sons while Yuma returned his Numbers. It felt like a missed opportunity. Tron would have lost, but he would have still put up a good fight (this is the guy who brought Yuma to his knees pretty much, it took 3 Zexal weapons to finally beat Tron. No other time did Yuma exert that many in one Duel, though he didn't need to of course). Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 00:44, July 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, yeah. Honestly, when the Fearsome Four Duels were going on, I half expected Tron to show up and team with Faker against Heartland or something. Or even against Vector. That would have been cool. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:48, July 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Forgot to ask this, but aren't V lll and IV's Chaos Numbers not in Astral's posession? Those were man-made cards, so they aren't a part of Astral like the base form ones (they created their own Rank-up and had man-made cards for their specific Chaos Numbers). Yuma created his own Rank-up and Number with the Astral power/Shining Draw so it wasn't simply man-made like the 3 Tron family brothers ones (though Future Number 0 is Yuma's own Number and not a part of Astral either). That said, how should this be handled, should those Numbers actually be changed to Nasch since we don't how those 3 ones work with Astral, and I don't see Astral with them (in fact did Nasch even take the Chaos ones?)? Also it is impossible for Yuma to have even had those before the Tron Family used those ones, because he only had the base forms (the chaos ones didn't even exist until the Tron Family made them, or created them via the man-made Rank-up Urgent Chaos force's that V created). Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 16:58, July 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't think of the method of Rank-Up makes a difference. I don't think possession of Chaos Numbers was ever really clear though. We know Vector got some from other people, but he and Nash aer the only ones that ever showed it. I wouldn't really worry about it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:06, July 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah I guess. I don't think it is a big deal either, it's just something I always wonder here and there and question if Astral has their Numbers or not. Zexal is a whole lot better in the area of less plot holes (5D's had so many plot holes it was painful, such as Ruka never bringing up that Crow's Dragon was not the one from her dream, nor why Z-one's group would use Rudger if he was already going to be a Dark Signer anyway and cause Zero Reverse without them doing anything. There's also the big question why Life Stream Dragon got turned into Power Tool Dragon. There's also why Aporia didn't get warned by Z-one about Rua possibly becoming a Signer given he was one in the original time-line). Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 19:23, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Pretty funny
I thought i'd compile Yusei's Standing and Riding Decks into individual Decks and lets just say, if you thought Kaito's, Ryoga's and Yuma's Decks were huge, you'll be in for a nice surprise xD: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User:TheScarecrow14/Sandbox#Turbo TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 00:50, July 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hahahah. Honestly, I thought there would be even more traps. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:55, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Move
Yo, I'm not able to rename "Diary Exchange of Youth" into "Exchanging Diary of Youth", could you do that for me please? :p I researched a bit and this seems to be a more accurate translation. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:03, July 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * We've been having lots of move problems recently. I'll give it a try later, but I'm doubtful it will work (Entermate Mufflio and One to Jump are still at the wrong names from last week, actually). If it doesn't work, I'll submit another ticket to staff. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:53, July 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Wow, I noticed the Wikia was going crazy lately but I thought it was just for me. Are you doing some revamp in the Wikia or something? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 20:43, July 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * No idea what the problem actually is. I attempted to move Friendonkey, but no dice there either. There have been no successful card page moves in the last week. Galleries and files seem to be fine. I also haven't seen reports of this going on over at an other wikis. I'll submit a bug report to staff. The other admins are just as stumped. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:28, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

If you remove all the offending templates and SMW queries on a page or just blank the page to ensure it's totally cleansed, you should be able to move it afterwards. You can unblank it then. Disclaimer: It takes ages and might not work every time. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:54, July 17, 2014 (UTC)

Sartorius
I was under the impression that season decks were supposed to be merged into a single deck if they were technically one and the same deck. Did i miss something? --  The Talk Goblin 16:31, July 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * In this particular case, I don't consider them to be the same. He identifies Dark Ruler as a new card and his entire strategy rested on Judai having The Fool. Though I suppose the same argument could be made for Vector, so yeah, maybe we should merge them. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:55, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

NavBar at Top
Hey Cheese, just wondering but do you know why the navigation bar at the top of the wiki was modified? I think the old layout was fine personally. -- Dark Ace SP  ( Talk Page ) 04:21, July 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * I do not. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:45, July 21, 2014 (UTC)

Entermate -> Performapal?
I'm basically wondering if I should rename Entermate Cheermole to Performpal Cheermole (3 subpages already exisit for the Performapal version, even though the actual card page doesn't exist yet. To be completely honest though, I'm been having issues when trying to create card number redirect pages for quite a few of the cards, namely Block Spider. -- Dark Ace SP  ( Talk Page ) 14:27, July 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Also, the renaming seems to be taking too long after I try to rename a card page. -- Dark Ace SP  ( Talk Page ) 14:29, July 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Renaming stuff is not working right now. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:45, July 21, 2014 (UTC)

Cookmates
Since it seems renaming pages it's taking a week, I guess it's the perfect timing. Cookmate Eggman and Cookmate Jagajaga must be renamed (I added the template, but I don't get why my explanations don't appear :p). Also, since you're better with words than me (and is more native speaker XD), it doesn't hurt to check it first; In the first case, its name is "tamagongu"; "tamago" = "egg", "gongu" = "gong", I'd go with "Eggong" (absolutely nothing near "eggman"). The second case, "jagajagā": "jagaimo" = "potato", "jagā" = "jaguar", I'd go with "potatopard". Cookmate Chickwheat is a correct translation, but if you by chance find words for "chick" and "wheat" that can form a perfect portmanteau, that'd be even more accurate. I guess it's better to create their trivias after they are renamed to avoid link frenzy, right? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:28, July 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * UltimateKuriboh mentioned a workaround. Try talking to him. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:45, July 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * It seems X-Metaman was able to move Eggman to Eggong. o.O I'm still not able to move Jagajaga to Potatopard though. Guess I'll talk to Kuriboh then.

Regen
This card. It's the same name and effect as Overlay Regen. I think it's just a case of alternative artwork like this one. But Viz was able to give it another name in English. *___* What should we do? Maybe leave it as an alternative artwork and add "Overlay Regeneration" as the manganame? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 13:52, July 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * I would do the same as was done for "Reload" when the card was used in the ZEXAL manga. Its just an alternate manga artwork, with VIZ deciding to be VIZ on top of it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:02, July 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll transfer the stuff to Overlay Regen's article, can you delete Overlay Regeneration then? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 01:31, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

Galilei & Kepler
Any objection in renaming DD Magical Sage Galilei and DD Magical Sage Kepler to "DD Prophecy Sages"? The rename template has been there for a while and they weren't moved yet, is the organization discussing about their names or something? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:01, August 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * Raising Masters isn't out for another week, so no finalized names yet. I highly, highly doubt the Org will end up going with "Prophecy Sage" though. There are no support cards that would be relevant to them, since "Stoic" only affects Level 3 monsters. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:15, August 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't think that's enough reason. "Prophecy" was already an archetype before the DD Sages debuted. They are legit targets for cards that support "Prophecy" cards, even if there's none so far. If they ever release a card that, let's suppose, searches for a DARK "Prophecy" monster, the DD Sages would be searchable by it, so I'm pretty positive they will be named "Prophecy" in the TCG, unless they add a "This card is always treated as a 'Prophecy' monster" flavor, which doesn't seem appropriate. The TCG is being very strict with archetype names lately. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:59, August 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * Strict when its relevant. The fact that there are so many monsters that WOULD be Prophecy monsters if they made support is reason enough not to make that support. For lack of a better way to put it: its not going to happen unless the OCG deliberately does it to fuck with the TCG. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:02, August 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * I see your point, but as I said, my uneasiness is about the possibility of a card that supports "Prophecy" monsters including the DD Sages come to exist in the future. That'd be Summoned Skull/Harpie's Brother all over again. And let's be honest, it's the TCG that fucks itself, renaming cards and archetypes with no need to. (insert cookie monster emoction here) LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 01:37, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

Renaming, again
Say, how are we doing with the problems on renaming pages? Do we just have to rename the page once and wait some time for the change to be done, or there is a trick or something to rename a page properly? Both of Yuya's next opponents, Eita Kyuandou and Mieru Houchu, need renaming due to their strong "o"s. :P I've already tried renaming Eita and it didn't work. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 22:34, August 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * Still hit or miss. I managed to move an article yesterday and it worked right away, but the next move I tried failed three times in a row. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 13:47, August 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * I see. On another note, sorry for always appealing to you, but people really don't seem to check talk pages (and I guess you're the admin who's most involved in "working" with the latest episodes' articles). I think this is a kinda important issue. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:07, August 11, 2014 (UTC)

Shadow of Mordor versus tournament
Hi Cheesedude! I'm Mark, from Wikia's Community Development Team.

I'm reaching out to see if your community would like to be a part of a versus tournament we're hosting on the Shadow of Mordor wikia. It would go live in September, and we would be pitting Yuya Sakaki against Talion from Shadow of Mordor. The voting would live in a blog on Shadow of Mordor and we would post a button on Yuya Sakaki's page here encouraging your community to vote for them. On the voting blog we would link back to your wikia, and we'll be promoting the tournament around Wikia. If your community would like to be a part of the tournament, which would include the button on Yuya Sakaki's page as well as a link back to your community from the voting blog, please let me know by 8/29.

Thank you! Mark ( talk ) 21:21, August 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hey, hopefully I'm too late. I talked it over with some other admins, then waited to see if there were any objections, then...forgot to respond. If its not too late, Yuya would be fine to put in. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:41, August 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * No worries, you're still on time! I appreciate you taking the time to discuss it with the other admins. I'll add the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikia to the list. Thanks! Mark  ( talk ) 04:02, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Duel summary
The style I have been using has received no complaints up until what you said just recently. If an effect activates multiple times and we know which cards are used or affected by it, I will just mention those cards (so that it applies to what you have shown). I just feel that the word "letting" should apply when it states that an effect has activated. The statement of a monster destroying another monster after a card or effect interrupts the attack was created by myself after I felt the sentence "the attack continues, destroying ?" could have been a better sentence. I will apply a bit to your styling, but only when an effect activates more than once in an episode or a Duel (since I just remembered there was a similar thing you did for the GX episodes that you edited after I did so).Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 15:03, September 13, 2014 (UTC) http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Cheesedude?action=edit#http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Cheesedude?action=edit#

A Better Understanding
Hey, Ive come across a message you left recently stating that subsections weren't done anymore, which now I feel now is a bit confusing.

Are you meaning that "Mini Sections"(the subsections under the main titles) aren't done anymore?, a response to clear things would be much appreciated.MaxMicster (talk • contribs) 21:16, September 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Its not necessarily that they're not done. You definitely don't need so many though. Generally,, one subsection per arc is used, but there are exceptions in some cases, such as Vector. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:55, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

Well I can understand not using subsections, I don't use them either, yet Vector, characters from zeal, and most definitely the main characters from 5ds were expanded upon to include mini arcs, side stories, and other events which wasn't really done for Gx characters besides maybe Jaden. What is a decent number of sections, I currently work on Gx character pages ?MaxMicster (talk • contribs) 19:13, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, when the articles get longer, subsections become more appropriate. Aster's article could perhaps use a few subsections. Just not anywhere near as many as were previously there. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:30, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

hmmm oh I see.MaxMicster (talk • contribs) 02:26, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

Archrelation
If I may ask, why don't cards related to archetypes show up in archetype boxes anymore? (BetterThanYou92 (talk • contribs) 07:59, September 14, 2014 (UTC))


 * Its a glitch with SemanticMediaWiki (SMW), which is the program that displays those. Nothing we can do to fix it, unfortunately. It should right itself eventually and/or staff will get around to fixing it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 09:16, September 14, 2014 (UTC)

ZEXAL 123
It's been a while since I did an episode summary, to be honest. Mind if you look over what I did for ZEXAL episode 123? Also, on a random note, they kept Heartland's death by burning in the dub, though they removed a few shots of him burning up. ChaosGallade (talk • contribs) 04:42, September 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * I can look at it at some point tomorrow. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:53, September 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks. ChaosGallade (talk • contribs) 05:15, September 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Made a few minor fixes, nothing major. Good work. One of these days, I'll get around to adding more images to it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:12, September 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, BTW, if you could give me a list of episodes you've done those summaries for, I'll try to get images into them. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:47, September 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * I did the summaries of ZEXAL episodes 112-117 and ARC-V episodes 5-6. Sanokal-KT did some of the later ARC-V episode's summaries, but I'm too lazy to check, atm. ChaosGallade (talk • contribs) 03:24, September 18, 2014 (UTC)

Newer edits
I am okay with the Life Point change edits you've made, but I have mixed feelings over how you show the stats of monsters. My versions usually apply when a monster's ATK, DEF, or Level is changed. This has been applied to most episode Duel summaries, but nobody had an issue previously. Originally, it was (ATK: ?) or (DEF: ?) I inputted before I felt it was too vague for me to understand what was going on. Is there any agreement we can put through this new problem.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 02:21, September 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, when the sentence is saying "the ATK of X increases", I see no reason the parenthesis need to then specify ATK as well. If I'm interpreting your question right. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:24, September 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Partly. After seeing some of the other Duel summary pages, I put ATK and DEF in the same parenthesis and I used this method for a majority of duel summaries I have modified even though by the third season of DM the show only show the stats that are actually modified (though no cared mostly at those points). I usually put the name of the monster in to specify which monster(s) are having their stats changed, which was again inputted in without a problem previously. User:Blueapple128's problem with my duel summaries was that some turns are written as too long and those should be separated into paragraphs, which I complied with immediately.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 02:29, September 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'd like to point out that all newer duel summaries do not use that style. Your style is not a problem, but my main goal here is consistency. I'd like to have all the duel summaries reading the same fashion. My general rule is this: If the monster is mentioned in the same sentence, you don't need it in parenthesis. If its not, then yes, add it in parenthesis before the difference. Can you agree to that? If not, I suppose I don't have a real problem with adding that to the newer duel summaries. My main goal is once again, to have a format we can stick to. That doesn't mean I have to like 100% of it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:45, September 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * I choose to go with my style, which I am trying to make consistent in each episode page as possible. You should try and input this into the newer summaries. I was going to change the episode duel summaries of Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's (only episodes 1-143) to match up to this as soon as I finish the GX Duel Summaries. I also plan to input my style in Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL Duel summaries once that is all wrapped up with, but it will take a while to get there. Hope we can make this an agreement!Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 02:56, September 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * That's fine. However, a few caveats. Please do try to stop specifying who is being directly attacked when there is only one opponent. And if a number is mentioned and it is not a stat, please spell it out. Can you agree to those? And I would be happy to put the ZEXAL articles back in order once we've decided. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:14, September 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * I can agree with thatCardsknower (talk • contribs) 03:49, September 18, 2014 (UTC)

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Cheesedude?action=edit&section=37#
 * Ok, great. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:52, September 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * One more thing I failed to mention. Do you have any issue with only mentioning the stat that is changed? In other words, if ATK increases, there is no need to mention the DEF again. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:57, September 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * I do have an issue with that and I do stats slightly different. If just ATK or just DEF that increases, I mention the other regardless. That thing you are mentioning was an old style that I no longer use. If it's just Level, there is nothing else mentioned in the stat change.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 01:33, September 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * But why? Aside from "that's how I want to do it", what purpose does listing DEF every single time ATK is changed serve? It just bloats the article. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:57, September 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * It was mostly to remove confusion between which stat was which and the change made the mess on the 5D's Duel summaries less messier (for at least most of season 1 that is).Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 02:20, September 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't understand how it could be confusing. When is there an ATK or DEF change that does not mention which stat is being changed in the same sentence? Can you link me to an example in the edit history of one of those pages, maybe? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:25, September 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * In the 5D's Duel summaries from episode 1-51, the ATK and DEF are changed, but the parenthesis and the showing of the stats being changed within were not used. This was one example of this prior to me going around and editing Duel Summary pages. This was from August 12, 2012 [] I am not sure if I can change your mind about this, but it seems that you are very interested in making everything as small as possible for articlesCardsknower (talk • contribs) 02:33, September 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * I see. Well, you did a good job fixing them, but I find listing both stat unneeded. The one that was changed most certainly does need to be listed there, so thank you for fixing that.
 * Not so much small as "with as few redundancies as possible". My reasoning on this is the same as the "don't specify who is being attacked directly when there is only one opponent" thing. It just clogs the article.
 * Also, keep in mind that there is no deadline here. If I get you to agree to this, I do not expect you to go around and apply it to every episode summary instantly. I intend to (slowly) get through everything myself. Though I would welcome your help.Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:41, September 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * I assumed it wasn't a redundancy prior to all this (There were no recent issues at that point). Understandably, this could be because since the third season of DM, the anime usually just shows which stats are changed (it mostly applied to the monster's battle position as demonstrated). Still I am trying hard to make the Duel summaries comply with most of requests to me as much as I can (It prominently started off at the start of Battle City where direct attacks were allowed), but I won't change my mind on that redundancy we have been negotiating about.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 02:55, September 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, I guess that's a good a point, with the anime showing both stats. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:59, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Yuya
We have never done this before, and i don't like it. I know I'm not the one who say it stays or not, but the fact is why should we do it just this once for just one character? I'm sorry, but i will keep reverting back every time you or anyone else adds it. I just think that we shouldn't start making up things as we go...--Omojuze (talk • contribs) 16:28, September 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Why is it a bad thing? Say what you want, but since we have never done that before, I'm going to keep it that way for as long as I can.. Sorry if you have a problem with that but I don't think this is a thing that needs change.--Omojuze (talk • contribs) 16:34, September 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying that its a bad thing. I just don't like it 'cause we've never done that before and i don't think we should do that. I think its a big bother having a lot of references in the decklist and just putting unnecessary ones just for a few weeks is really not THAT important. Also, most people know where the info comes from. I just think that change in referencing rules is not important and should be kept as it is. Also, can you really promise that you're going to do that with all the characters from now on? How 'bout with Gongenzaka's Susano-O? There's no reference there.. Just because its the main character, you guys decided to add it. If we do to one, we have to do to all. It's just bothersome and really NOT THAT IMPORTANT.--Omojuze (talk • contribs) 16:45, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

Stardust
Yo, dunno if you checked the news on NAC, but Yusei's got a Stardust upgrade this month in the manga. Its name translates to Holy Spark Dragon God - Stardust Sifr (or something like that, I don't have the remotest idea of what "shifuru" refers to). Should I create the article with that name, or go with a Org-ish name, like Stardust Divine Spark Dragon or something? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:16, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

I'd go with the second option, but with "Sifr" incorporated into it somehow. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:11, September 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * Would you like to discuss an Orgname with the rest of the Org, or I choose something I think fits? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 21:20, September 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * Chose what you like for now. Page moving is working fine, so I'm not too worried about it. We'll discuss it eventually, other things on the table right now. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:47, September 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * Roger. Guess I'll go with Divine Spark Dragon Stardust Sifr for now, since keeping Stardust Sifr in the beginning doesn't sound good IMO. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:36, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

RE:D Team
Nope, I think NAC is the only place where you'll find full D Team scans. Or tieba baidu, but you'd spend some time searching for it. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:37, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Sub-series
Yo, I'd like to know what you think about this, since it includes several cases. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:11, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Glitch
For some reason when I try to add refs and then preview, it keeps saying refs found but not closing tag, despite the fact I type the ref correctly just like the others on the page. Maybe it's a glitch with my device, bummer if it is, because I really hate adding bio stuff without refs. Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 16:00, September 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * Are you by chance doing section editing? Because that will happen on section editing, since the references section won't be visible in the preview. If not, I have no idea. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:06, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Doubt
Yo, regarding this edit. Just a doubt about English, what's the difference between a fiancee and a wife? :P LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:18, October 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * A fiancee would mean she is engaged to him. A wife would mean they're married. 20:26, October 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see, thanks. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 18:42, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * By the way, we seem to have reached an agreement about deleting sub-series articles in Talk:El Shaddoll. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 18:44, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Miami
Yo, after the name of Miami City, I do think it should be "Maiami" instead. It's not Katakana like in foreign words, it's actual Japanese. Do you have a bot or something to rename all "Miami City"s? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 14:00, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, and there's this too. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 14:03, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Lores from English VG's?
Are the lore's from current OCG-only cards, such as the unreleased content of DP Yuma 2/Kastle Twins, taken from the english Zexal VG considered to be official, or would it have to come from the physical release of the card in english territories? PhotonLegion95 (talk • contribs) 19:39, October 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, they would be considered official. That does not necessarily mean they will be the same as the final TCG texts, but they are official. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:53, October 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok then. Towmorrow I'll go through the unreleased OCG stuff from the Zexal VG and make sure every thing matches up. PhotonLegion95 (talk • contribs) 20:56, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Card effect
I forgot to ask before, but is it a legit mistake if you have a character in the original version properly explain the effect, but in the dub scene the character explains their activated card wrong or doesn't even explain why they're drawing another card or said effect happened despite the original version of the doing it right? I get the original can screw up on that too, but I mean if the dub screws up like that in the scene when the original did it right. Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 04:04, October 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ideally, that should just be in the summary in parenthesis if there is one. If there isn't, then it can go in errors until a summary is written. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 12:20, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Sketch
Yo, quick thing, would you mind proofreading the Sketch article? It felt kinda awkward for me to explain about their appearance and etymology, so I'm not sure I wrote everything right. :p LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:34, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Fixed up the wording. Some very good info there, though. Interesting. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:05, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * *blushes* XD LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:36, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Renaming or Combing the Tag Duel Rules Pages
Hi, I noticed that there are two sets of rules for Tag Duels. One named, Tag Duel rules and the other, Team Dueling Rules. The first page is for the OCG (learned that after a while of researching) and the latter is for the TCG. Is it possible to either change the name of the two pages to OCG Tag Duel rules and TCG Tag Duel rules or combine both pages into one with a separate section for both the TCG and OCG? It got really confusing to figure out which rule belonged to which CG when the player doesn't know that the TCG and OCG are different things. It didn't help that neither pages stated which CG its rules applied to until yesterday. ShikiKira (talk • contribs) 02:21, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Wow. I wasn't aware we actually had separate pages for them. Yeah, I think a merger is probably in order. I'll talk to some of the other admins and hopefully try to merge them tomorrow. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:05, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. The rules for both CGs are mostly the same with the exception of each duelists' field zones, and the TCG's rules had a better explanation of how card effects would be applied. ShikiKira (talk • contribs) 03:26, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Merged them together. The formatting could still use some work though. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:22, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I saw that. I deleted the extra copy of the OCG that was on the page. By the way, could we change the pages name Tag-Team Dueling Rules to reflect the Tag-Team Duel page? ShikiKira (talk • contribs) 06:28, October 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, thanks. Copy-paste fail, I guess. Anyway, I think the better question is actually "why is the other page hyphenated anyway". I've never seen Tag Team hyphenated when used in any other context. So I'm going to look into why and maybe move that instead. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 11:12, October 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * I think it was named that way because some websites and pages refer to Tag Duels as Team Duels. The page name was probably hyphenated to show that the two duels are the same thing, but that's just my speculation. ShikiKira (talk • contribs) 21:17, October 18, 2014 (UTC)

TF Special
Hey Cheese, do you know if Tag Force Special is branded as an ARC V game at all? I've seen Arc V on some logos, then some without, so not entirely sure. Thanks! TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 16:57, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * One of them does say "Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V Tag Force Special", but another one does not. So I would leave it at the current name for now, especially since we're apparently getting a game that has characters from all five anime series OMG THIS IS AWESOME. a-hem. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:03, October 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, that's cool then. Best to wait for the game box art to clarify it. And yes xD I'm pretty excited for this! TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 17:06, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

The Main Image on Episode 28
Hi. I wanted to propose the changing of episode 28's main image to something more appropriate for the episode in question. Though I don't have any images myself to offer, if it could be changed to one that focuses on the Duel participants of that episode (most any one appropriate image should be fine for that) and not Sora and Shun, who quite frankly have no business being shown so prominently in the header-image for that episode, I feel it would benefit that particular page overall.

Thanks for hearing me out. J. D. Guy (talk • contribs) 12:29, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, I absolutely agree. I can attempt to pick out a new picture when I get to watching the episode later. There are a number of pages where the infobox image is sort of random. When picking them myself, I usually try to pick something that evokes the Japanese episode title. If I can't do that, I generally go with "Player A stares down Player B's ace monster". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:48, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Looks like its since been changed. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:51, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * I feel an image that represents the "main idea", if you will, of the episode with its context taken into account is a good idea to strive for in general (I wonder if the Japanese titles can be as misleading as they can in the Pokemon Anime). The current image is perfect, in my opinion. Definitely better than the other image that was there before. I wonder why it was used in the first place?J. D. Guy (talk • contribs) 19:18, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Who's TwoTailedFox, why did "he" leave a notification 8 years ago, and why won't it go away?
One more thing. I've been meaning to ask this for a while now. I have an apparent 8 year old message from "TwoTailedFox" for sometime now. It says it came from the B-Damon Wiki. Clicking on it leads me here and the notification never seems to go away.

What can tell me about this? Thanks in advance. J. D. Guy (talk • contribs) 12:37, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * TwoTailedFox is the YGO wiki's founder. I don't know if he ever he had anything to do with the B-Damon wiki. In any case, if the notification does not go away, try using Special:Contact to contact Wikia staff about it. Hopefully they can fix it. It seems to just be a glitch. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:48, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Since it has been there for a while now (almost, if not over a year), I guess that's what I'll need to do. Thanks.J. D. Guy (talk • contribs) 19:20, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Nothing to do with me. The notification system has been known for throwing odd bugs like this. S:C is the way to go.--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 01:00, October 28, 2014 (UTC)

Yuzu's Deck
Hey Cheese, I was looking at Yuzu's Deck and thought it looks extremely messy with all of those notes floating about from when she dropped her Deck in episode 24. Do you think a reference on the end of a sentence saying something like "She is also shown to utilize a large amount of Fairy and LIGHT support cards, shown from when she dropped her Deck" would suffice enough to remove them? It just looks extremely clunky as is. TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 19:54, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Maybe. I think we should wait until the next episode or two air, though. They may end up solving some of the problems. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:35, October 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * User:Cheesedude/Sandbox/2. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:33, October 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * I would say keep those cards in her Decklist and use references just stating in general what was shown as they are technically part of her Deck. It just looks really clunky with all of the text and notes. TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 00:50, October 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * Uh, there's now way we're removing them altogether, even with references. I thought the text would be a better option than all the notes. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:58, October 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah right, I was basing on the Decklist in your sandbox as the shown cards weren't listed in her Decklist. How about: She is also shown to utilize a large amount of Fairy and LIGHT support cards, shown when she dropped her Deck, as well as multiples of her "Melodious" monsters . With the references being to the episodes where her Deck was shown.

How about that? TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 03:39, October 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * I think I misunderstood you, then. We can remove them from the Decklist, as the sandbox shows. However, if its removed from the Decklist, the cards still need to be mentioned in the Deck section somewhere, hence the prose. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:39, October 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * What I mean was, although we do mention that she was shown with those cards, they are part of her Deck, so should really be listed in the actual Deck, rather than the section. Plus, it looks rather clunky. Give me a couple of minutes to make up what I mean in my sandbox and i'll post a link. TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 15:00, October 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * Here you go: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User:TheScarecrow14/Sandbox TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 15:05, October 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, ok. Yeah, I have no problem with that. That should work fine, I think. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:47, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Harpie Support Cards
Hi again. I just wanted to ask about two of the Harpie support cards. I'm actually just confused on why Rose Whip and Harpie's Feather Duster are no longer included in the Harpies archetype's list of support cards and why they were taken off of the Harpies template. I know both cards used to be on both the template and the card listings two to three years ago. Kind of weird that they're no longer included. Is there any reason for the exclusion? ShikiKira (talk • contribs) 08:26, October 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * "Rose Whip" is support for "Harpie Lady", not for "Harpie" monsters, while "Harpie's Feather Duster" is a "Harpie" card but does not support any "Harpie" monsters at all. So "Rose Whip" should be listed under the related category, while "Feather Duster" is actually a member. If they are not currently displaying there, try clearing your cache. If that doesn't work, its likely an SMW (the program that displays those lists) glitch, which can't really be fixed except with thime. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:38, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Des-Toy
Why keep the Japanese name as "Des-Toy"? "Des" is "Death", which is usually adapted to "Des" in the TCG. The correct translation of the Japanese name is "death". We don't even know if a pun with "destroy" was intended, but even if it was, we do explain the pun in the etymology, I don't see reason to keep a wrong translation just to try to make it closer to the pun. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:41, October 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'd argue that keeping it as "Des" isn't incorrect, but its not a big issue. Feel free to revert, I'm not too concerned about it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:44, October 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, by the way, I just noticed now that you did provide an argument in your edit, my bad for not checking it previously. But I'd say "no", because like I said, even if a pun was intended, we can just explain it in the etymology instead of keeping a misleading translation. The example you gave, Des Troy, has the kanji of "Death Troy" in its name, so the primary meaning is "death", with the pun being secondary. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:48, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Jack's Decks
Hey Cheese, I sorted out all of the Decks on Jack's Deck page. Could you delete it? Thanks. TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 23:08, October 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Done. Also, I'm going to see what we can do with Yuzu's Deck now, considering the episode didn't too much to solve the problem, though it was awesome. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:24, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, and how about putting that multiple Melodious monsters, LIGHT and Fairy support was shown when looking through her Deck/when she dropped it, with references to those episodes? TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 00:01, October 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * Actually, I responded to the wrong section. Look back up above at the original topic for the link. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:37, October 28, 2014 (UTC)

Error monster
Not sure about how to handle this. You think the way I left it is okay? To be honest I wasn't even sure about making an article for it or not, I dunno. Manga cards can be crazy. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 15:35, October 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * I was hoping you would know, actually. My reaction to seeing it yesterday was "oh, its a token...no its not...its a...huh?" That being said, I think it does need an article in some form. Looks fine the way it is. Alternately, we could present it as an article similar to Ghost of Dark Sanctuary, maybe. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:16, October 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * Not sure there. Considering non-gaming flavor effects, "E'Rah Monsters" are the shadows of the "light" monsters. They are not a thing themselves, like the Ghost of Dark Sanctuary. IMO they are closer to Dragonecro's Dark Souls, which became a token when Dragonecro was released. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:08, October 28, 2014 (UTC)

Goodwin's monster
So, in 5000-year-old flashbacks, Goodwin used this guy for a One-Shot Run. Should I list it in his "Celestial" Deck and note it was only used for a One-Shot Run, or should I list it separately? I'm not sure how to handle it. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 19:33, November 8, 2014 (UTC)


 * I guess just list it in the regular deck. I don't see why it wouldn't be apart of it, anyway. But yeah, note that it was only used in the Run. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:39, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Yugioh Manga
Do you know where I could read some of the manga from either 5D's or Zexal? Sorry to ask. --Jackpo21 (talk • contribs) 01:56, November 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * In English, I believe Shonen Jump Alpha prints them and that digital copies are available. In Japanese, try Neo Ark Cradle. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:17, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Would it be too much to ask to leave a link? --Jackpo21 (talk • contribs) 02:26, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Edit: I meant for either of those sites where the manga might be. --Jackpo21 (talk • contribs) 02:33, November 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * You need an account for NAC. Once you have one, just look around. Don't want to direct link. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 12:04, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Entermate
I've been dying to replace the current pic for Performapals with this one, since it features their user and a great amount of their members, but I've been hesitating 'cause of the Gazers being there too. What do you think? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 18:32, November 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * I think it would be fine. Caption could be something like "Yuya Sakaki with various Performapal monsters, "Stargazer Magician", "Timegazer Magtician" and "Hippo Tokens". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:29, November 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * Awright. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 21:39, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Forum request
I've left a forum that involves inputting personality section for other major characters (I only listed three because I was trying to remember which major character pages need personality sections.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 01:59, November 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * I've never really concerned myself much with those sections. Not sure how much I can help, but I can look at the relevant sections tomorrow, hopefully. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:29, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

ZEXAL 131
In the original version of that episode, Vector outright said he killed Nash and Marin. In the dub, he "erased them from existence". Do you think both things mean the same thing? Just wanted to make sure. ChaosGallade (talk • contribs) 17:30, November 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think so. May be worth noting the wording change. Very similar to the "sent to the stars" thing in GX. Which I've always insisted is simply a change from an outright death to a heavily implied one. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:48, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

Image Misidentified
Hello. I'm sorry if you're not the person to talk to about this, but I'm unfamiliar with who staff members are on this wiki. The file "File:CosmicBlazarDragon-JP-Anime-5D-NC.png" seems to have been misidentified as an image of Yusei holding out the card in question. The card is Shooting Star Dragon - it is in an identical pose with red coloring in the corner, and in the episode, where the full image is shown, Yusei is riding alongside Shooting Star.

So, the image either needs to be renamed and moved, or deleted. Drake Clawfang (talk • contribs) 03:05, November 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * The image is indeed of "Shooting Star Dragon". However, what is also in the image is a shot of the only time the name of "Cosmic Blazar Dragon" was ever displayed. So its actually an appropriate image for "Blazar".
 * The "NC" in the file name indicates that it is a non-card image. And it is. Its also a card image of "Shooting Star Dragon" though. I understand where the confusion comes from. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:31, November 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. Drake Clawfang (talk • contribs) 21:18, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Dub Request
Don't you need to put the dub changes on Zexal 133? No offence... Scarboot198 (talk • contribs) 14:57, November 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't actually watch the dub, beyond skimming through for card names. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:44, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Manga cards
Should I start creating the article for manga cards using this template? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:34, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * If you'd like, sure. Deltaneos has gotten through most of the original stuff, I think, and I'm working on GX for now.
 * As you've seen, we've been doing separate articles for every card that appears in the manga, even when it has the same effect as the real world one. Template:CardTable2 will hopefully be retired eventually (you've seen the SMW issues) and part of doing that is splitting off anime, manga and video game articles.
 * In cases where a card's effect changes in the manga, we've made two articles - such as Foolish Burial (manga) and Foolish Burial (GX manga). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:19, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * I see. I'll start using it then to save you guys' time. How about links? Like, in the chapters' articles and in the characters' decklists. Should we also replace everything? For example, "Foolish Burial (manga)|Foolish Burial" instead of just "Foolish Burial"? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:38, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Eventually. I believe the plan is to get all them manga articles done, then do a bot run and/or update them all at once. So I wouldn't bother with the links yet.
 * If you could start with 5D's, that would be great. When I finish GX, I'll likely move to ZEXAL. Not sure what Delt himself is doing either. And yeah, if you could start new articles for future manga chapters using the template, it would be great. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:42, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * From what I've seen, Delt's going for DM, it seems. And God saves the bot. xD Sure, I'll start with 5D's then, kinda slowly though (and even a bit slower since it'll take me a while to get used to that template xD). LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:45, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm not sure if he's finished or not. It will take a while to get used to it, yes. Once I got through five or so chapters worth of cards, I had enough of a grasp to go faster. I still randomly forget parameters, though. XD. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:47, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * BTW, last question. When we split articles (like Junk Blader), do we remove the manga lore and manga ppearances from the OCG/TCG article? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:54, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Leave them for now. I'm not actually sure we've decided yet. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:55, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Remember the "last question" thing? I lied. Junk Blader has an English card image as well. How do I add it? en_image doesn't seem to work. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:59, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * If there's an English image, use "image" and put the Japanese image at "image_ja". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:02, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * I mean "ja_image". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:04, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay, one more. xD Arms Regeneration has different names in R and 5D's. What to do. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 18:05, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Um. I dunno. I'll add that to my list of issues to ask Delt. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:09, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * I swear, each card I try to convert to manga template gives me a new issue. xD So, Pride of the Warrior has card names in 3 other languages as well, but they don't seem to appear in the manga template. Should I just remove them? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 18:12, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Use Unofficial names (not Unofficial name) and add it after Manga card Example (hit edit) at Turboroid. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:14, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Do you have to ask Delt about cards-with-different-names-in-manga-and-TCG? :p LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 18:24, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Nah. If there is an English manga name, use it, even if it sucks. So, "Jeweled whatever the hell they used for RDA (manga)". Add "main = Hot Red Dragon Archfiend" to the manga article to make the gallery and other links still work. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:28, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:28, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yessir. BTW, I'm loving the "viz_lore" thing. I can finally add proper English lores without having to stick to Viz's blatant errors. *hallelujah plays in the background* LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 18:32, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's one of my favorite parts, too. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:34, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, and try to use put a space between "|" and the parameter name if you remember (think Dino's gonna bot the ones we miss though). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:36, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Guess you didn't notice, but if there's a real card article, you don't have to add the Japanese name stuff to the manga article unless its different like Heartlandraco or Ultimaya whatever it was. The template pulls it from the main article automatically. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:43, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, I see. BTW, adding the "main" template in Quick Spanite (manga) doesn't seem to work for gallery and stuff, it keeps both "main card articles". LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 18:53, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Think I got it. It has to be the exact article name or it doesn't work. Also, "romaji_name" and "trans_name", now. I kept getting those wrong at first too. Like I said, it takes some getting used to. I asked nearly all the questions you've asked me to Delt, actually. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:01, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, I tried "" instead of "|main", that's why it didn't work. xD LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 19:10, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * If either of you want to upload images of just the card's artwork and add it through, it will be useful for creating lists of the cards. e.g. Maximillion J. Pegasus (manga). -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:04, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but are lists like that really needed? I think the usual decklist, listing the cards by name, is great already, and it looks more organized. Just a thought though, if we'll keep those lists I'll try to add some artwork pics when I have time. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 22:28, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I plan to go through my scans and upload artworks...eventually. I do like the new decklist, though. Its neat to be able to see all the artworks there. I wasn't fond of it at first myself, but I think it actually looks more organized this way. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:37, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

So, did you reach any conclusions about what to do with Arms Regeneration, who has different names in R and 5D's? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 19:31, December 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, another issue. Rose Blizzard and Rose Blizzard (manga) are different cards, but the manga article treats the anime article as the main article. No idea what to do in that case. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 20:21, December 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * Also, Checkered Flag of Glory. No idea how to add the "non-game card" category, nor the "entry for the D1GP" description. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 20:35, December 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * No idea on either. Sort of fixed the "Rose Blizzard" thing, but the now the article backlinks to itself. We could move "Rose Blizzard" to "Rose Blizzard (anime)" (and we eventually will when the anime template is complete), that would fix it. Don't know if we want to do that prematurely, though. I'll ask Delt. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:14, December 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * The correct fix for "Rose Blizzard (manga)" and similar cases is to set ; this prevents the "Main: foobar" line from being shown above the card table and ensures the other card information links below the table link to the correct pages.
 * I don't think it'll be necessary to rename the anime article; it looks like the primary topic here and what people will most likely be looking for when they look for a card named "Rose Blizzard". 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:16, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

Angels
About Rose Bell of Revelation. First, the Japanese lore does read only part of the monsters' names, but it isn't worded as if they were archetypes; the card makes it clear you can add either "the gallant angel" (Queen Angel of Roses) or "the demon angel" (Fallen Angel of Roses), either of those monsters, to your hand. Manga is manga, they call cards by nicknames, that doesn't mean it's an archetype. I think the articles Queen Angel and Fallen Angel can be deleted. Second, for Rose Bell's non-Viz lore, should I use the Japanese or English names? (like, "Gallant Angel" or "Queen Angel"?) LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:15, December 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * Deleted, sorry, forgot to respond after. Uh, for the lore, I'd go with "Queen", since the card has a TCG release. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:11, December 11, 2014 (UTC)

Manga again
Machina Soldier, Machina Defender and Machina Sniper are called like that in 5D's, but are called "Machine" instead in R. Separate articles or not? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 20:36, December 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Separate, but not because of the names. IIRC, they were vanillas in R and Effect Monsters in 5D's. I would suggest using the "Machine" names for the R versions and having the 5D's versions with 5D's manga in parenthesis. The actual "Machina X (manga)" pages can be disambiguation, linking to both. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:34, December 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Actually, they are vanillas in both. In 5D's, their only use was to be discarded to summon Machina Cannon, and there was no lore in the cards. Do I still create separate articles? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 21:42, December 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, damn. Just do single articles, use "Machina" since its the more recent name. I'll poke Delt about an alt name parameter. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:54, December 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * In that case, should I also make Arms Regeneration keep the 5D's name, and add the R name later when the alt name parameter is ready? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 22:55, December 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that should work. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:57, December 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * By the way, I created the articles for the Machinas with the R pics because the 5D's pics didn't show the full card, is that ok? Or should I have used the 5D's ones anyway, since they are the latest ones (and have the correct names)? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:18, December 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * I think what you did is fine. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:22, December 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * "alt_names" has been added. Also, "ja_alt_names", but I don't know if we'll need to use that. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:40, December 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, great. About the "ja_alt_names" thing, just form the top of my mind I have two examples already, Queen Angel of Roses and Ultimaya Tzolk'in, so yes, we'll need to use that. xD LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 15:41, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

How do you add the "archrelated" thing in the manga template? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:52, December 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * "related_to_archseries". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:54, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

D Team
How are we gonna handle D Team ZEXAL with the manga template thing, since that manga uses OCG cards instead of manga cards? We won't put them in manga templates, right? There's, for example Call of the Haunted (5D's manga), which was used in the 5D's manga and also in D Team. Should we list the D Team appearance in the manga template too or not? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:02, December 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * No, don't list D Team appearances in the manga card pages. I'm unsure what the plan is for them. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:28, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

Manga
Should we create manga articles for already existing monsters that just make a cameo in the manga, like Alien Overlord and Montage Dragon? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:12, December 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:35, December 17, 2014 (UTC)