Forum:Make dueling fun

TairoMegus 15:46, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * now days people play 2 win.. they put lots of destruction cards and quick wipe out your entire field...
 * its getting boring since it does not feel like the same as the anime or what u think... i mean lets not talk about solid holograms... im talking about having a monster on your field to at least remain for 1 TURN .. seems kinda impossible...
 * so i'm hoping konami will create more powerful cards that prevent destruntion with less cost and condition like waboku (but its quite hard to get now)...
 * come on create something like discard 1 card negate any spell/Trap/Monster effect that destroys card(s) on your field... similar to destruction jammer but even more powerful... and what reduce the population of the monster on the field is... BW-Gale of the whirlwind... it can freaking half a monster's ATK forever without any special condition or cost... + its a tuner + it can easily summon...

Unfortunately, people forget to ease up in casual conditions and play with their tournament-worthy decks. There's little you can do about that. As for what you're looking for... Tairo, meet Prime Material Dragon. Prime Material Dragon, meet Tairo. Have a nice day. --Gadjiltron 06:21, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

i hate gale too.--Airbellum 08:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Same here. EgyptianGods 00:01, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

--Well,Stardust Dragon is a good Savior,LOL.Also Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode is more CUTE,LOL.

--Airbellum,who doesn't hate Gale?I think it's the Blackwing users.Maybe they'll limit Gale this September Advance Format.

Jampong 12:32, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Not just prime
There were alot of new destruction prevention cards in the newest raging battle pack.

I for one love running a Prime Material Dragon with a Mist Body attached to it. Outside of bouncing it back to my hand there is very little the oppenent can do to get rid of itSteelfallenangel 08:53, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Monsters stay on the field for more then 1 turn all the time.The game is fun if you have a good deck.--Airbellum 09:45, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Forgetting the Point
I think the point isn't that cards are too powerful, I think it's the fact no one just treats it like a GAME. It's supposed to be fun, not one sided, and it shouldn't matter if you have a tournament deck or not, it should be about the FUN. Playing with decks everyone uses takes all the fun out of personally made decks and themes. In my opinion, it should be about having a good time, not some one-sided battle between a personal deck and a tournament one. Build a deck with a theme you find interesting, and duel someone who does the same, those are the greatest duels of all time to me. Don't follow deck lists, follow your own mind, and have fun. --ZeroLife0L 20:24, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Powerfull Cards
why are people so mad about good cards. The games wouldn't be fun it you strongest was a 2100 atk monster.--Airbellum 20:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Everyone is born differently and therefore have fun in a different way. I for one, have fun when it is a close duel or I am completely dominating my opponent. http://www.youtube.com/user/AkemiCaffeine 03:28, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

--I have fun every time I duel w/ my opponent,and I lose.But I had fun.

Jampong 05:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Well before the september list, the strongest monster in my deck was 2200 atk, and duels were fun, even losing against a creative and unique deck can be fun. Losing against an impersonal hypercompetitive deck made mostly of super and ultrarare broken cards (which in my country means super and ultra expensive and impossible to get otherwise) is no fun, no fun at all. I hate losing against decks that prove nothing but their owner's budget, and I love being able to play against creative and original decks (like one control deck built around stumbling, the only reasson I won that duel was I had one more card on my deck than my opponent). Pleasse be creative, stop this unfunny-expensive-follow-the-leader nonsense. HouseholdCatDeity 00:28, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

ftk
the only deck i hate are deck that end the duel in the first (few) turn(s) Knightofwhitedragon 14:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I know what you mean
I hate it when people choose a "favorite" type or Archetype because of how much support and what it's win potential is. Nobody ever uses those unsupported archetypes, or the strategies that are hard to come up with. Blackwings and Lightsworns fail!!--Akiza&#39;sRose66 19:51, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

I totally agree with you. My Favorite card and type is Dark Magician, and my favorite attribute is Dark, not because of it's great support, no, it's because I've always liked evil things, scary things and demon-like-looking cards. Even though I'm scared as hell of demons IRL and that kind of freaky stuff, I love the DARK attribute. Why do I like Dark Magician? Because I like magic as much as darkness. I love magicians and ilusion tricks IRL. alot of people ask me why I don't run a Blue-eyes White Dragon deck because it has more power then dark magician, I always answer: I like Dark Magician and I do not care if he's weak for a level 7 monster, it has great support and I just like magic. Deal with it, if you want a blue-eyes deck, go make one your own. I don't wanna spend 1000 dollars for a well supported lightsworn deck, blue-eyes deck or blackwings. Only people with no lives pay with those expensive cards, they don't care about favorites at all, for them it's all about winning.--91.95.255.117 15:27, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. My friend loves Dark Magician as well, it's his favorite card. He has ever since the good old Yugi days. We love spending our time not buying our decks, but taking our time in collecting them. I am one of the only people at my local tournaments who actually CARES about their deck as a duelist. My deck is covered in Black Rose Dragon card sleeves (thanks Amazon.com!!) and I am soon to be purchasing a Black Rose Dragon playmat. My username for the tournaments is Black Rose, and everyone there calls me by that name. Black Rose Dragon may not be the strongest card in the world, but it's certainly more fun when you can make up your own Summoning chants and stuff for it because you acually have a connection with the card.--Akiza'sRose66 "Chilling flames engulf this entire world, pitch-dark flower.... Set into bloom!! Synchro Summon! Appear now, Black Rose Dragon! 18:25, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Very true, you have build the deck that you want, with the cards that YOU have collected over the years in your trading circles. I mean, I found my favorite cards through trades, not because the archetype looked uber. I have two great decks and once I have bought single cards. Netdecking is wrong, but it will always be there. My favs may be more powerful cards (Stardust & Assualt, Black Rose), but then I have cards that are good, but I think they're just awesome, and I thought it amazing when I got them, so I built a deck around them, and it turned out great (by the way it was crystal beasts). People need to make craetive decks again, I refuse to go with Lightsworns or Blackwings etc... because I want to find my own style of play, one that I enjoy, one that I will have fun with, win or lose.~--BassNettoHikari2 21:32, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Agreeing w/ the point
It's true now a days its less declared a Game then it used to be! now a days everybody runs the same decks! Gladiators, Lightsworns, Blackwings and whatsoever! besides I only play for the Fun of it and I never duel comfortably if don't Use a Dragon Deck!! What can you do that's my style. I know Dragon Decks are not that very competitive (at least in Malta) but I have my Dragon Deck and i duel in tourneys even if I end Last I still have fun using Dragons!! My only wish is that everybody PLAYS the Game not see a good deck and uses it!! SAVE THE GAME PLAY CREATIVELY PLS for the games' sake!!

Hah, yeah, I love a certain bunch of monsters and if it weren't for problems w/ balance (too many high level cards, not enough support, etc.) There are some cards with effects and other details I find cool or interesting (Ex: Convulsion of Nature, Yu-Jo Friendship, Clear World) and other cards I find awesome or hilarious to look at (Anteatereatingant, Rescue Cat, Fishborg Blaster, Hungry Burger) but besides Rescue Cat in Beast decks, or Fishborg Blaster in a WATER or Fish-themed Synchro deck, they really don't fit anywhere in working decks too well, what with the way the game is played now. Heck, after I heard the song "Cartoon Heroes" by Aqua, for some reason suddenly wanted to make a Toon + Elemental Heroes deck... only to realize the combo of archetypes would never work... >.> Rose Duelist 01:52, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

This may be random
when i 1st got into yu gi oh you hardly ever heard of effect cards and the game was dominated by cards such as dark magician and blue eyes white dragon and summoned skull etc. but now it seems that the normal monster has near enough died out and been replaced by the more common effect cards. i can adit that my deck does contain mostly effect monsters but i just think it is a shame especialyt when you look at the strong cards such as dark magician and blue eyes white dragon and even now with cards like sabersaurus and elemental hero neos. anyway the point of this rant is just to say next time you are building a deck just put some normal monsters in there for old time's sake.

Please, for old time's sake, post four tildes at the end of your post. I understand your point with the normal monster thing, but everyone decides for theirselves whether to put in normal monster(s). My only normal monster in my fiend deck is Summoned Skull, and in my Dark Magician deck it is Dark Magician (x3) and Neo Aqua Madoor--91.95.255.117 18:34, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Agreed...
I pretty much agree with you guys here. A lot of people just netdeck their decks and even for friendly duels, people in my area are way too competitive. It takes the fun out of it sometimes. It's still hilarious to beat them with a deck that shouldn't be able to beat them though.

I always make decks just for fun. I never make them just for the purpose of winning. I get a fun idea, make a decklist, and then I do whatever I can to make it as perfect as possible, while sticking to the original idea. It's too bad most people don't do this anymore.

And it's very possible to make a deck based around Normal Monsters. Cards like Justi-Break and Ancient Rules really help normal monsters. 75.175.21.245 17:16, October 18, 2009 (UTC)Sephilli

HEART
this will sound cheesy but these days no one BELVIES IN THE HEART OF THE CARDS they just believe in power and most of them have no skill just money.

I agree. Also, why most duelists need to lay some more slack when they see people playing with banned cards. Seriously, I had this one dude flip out over Premature Burial. I told him what I'm paraphasing: "It is a ****** card, from a children's card game. At a tournment, ok it matters, but casual play WHO CARES. Its all just paper in the end."

My point: Don't freak on someone who plays with banned cards, they aren't a cheater, they are just playing a childrens card game.

I think the above post is pretty wrong, playing with banned cards is cheating unless the other player does not mind. You can't just move a bishop in straight lines in chess even if it was a casual game... OjaOwnage 14:20, May 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agreed with OjaOwnage, just as long as opponent can accept at equal power or is running traditional format. For myself, I have seen my opponent playing Pot of Greed twice in full Match Duel while I ran Advanced Format deck, but this both decks were at equal power. And for Chess part, they are what they must to be, as Bishop should go on white space/black space on where they're start out. Queen can kill anyone, but cannot cross her own knight's space that only Horse can jump. --FredCat100 14:26, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding banned cards and seriousness, I think it all depends on the context of the situation. If you're in an official tournament, you should be serious about banned cards and the entire game in general. You should be 'sportsmanlike', respect your opponent, etc. In unofficial tournaments, it's up to the organisers to state what rules are used.

During casual play, it's up to the players: if they want to play seriously and agree on it, that's great. If they want to ignore banlists and just play for fun, that's also great. If a banned card shows up in a casual game, it doesn't matter. For example, when I played a banned card in a casual game, we came to an agreement that I was not to activate it, but had to discard it draw a new card in it's place. It's a much better alternative to making a huge fuss.

My point is that you should only be truly serious in an official tournament, and play however you like in a casual game. During casual games, it's best if people come to an agreement regarding banned cards and how they play. I personally play YGO for fun, as well as to test my skill.

However, in any casual circumstance, I don't think that people should make such a large fuss. It's a card game; it's not like it dictates the fate of the world. (Not IRL, anyway) --HybridDragoness 08:39, June 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think the people who whine about this sort of thing are usually the players who are getting their ass handed to them by "uncreative decks." Like the people who whine about Honest or Machina or some other ridiculous card being broken, just because they're not good enough players to get around it. If you don't like people playing seriously, then don't play competitive people. Yu-Gi-Oh! is a competitive game, children's card game or not. If somebody I was playing casually happened to play a banned card without telling me in advance, I'd usually tell them they can't use it. No drawing 1 extra card. No nothing. Why should we even have a ban list if people are gonna decide to put whatever in the deck anyway? Yet, if I ran 3 Honest against some scrub who hated Honest, I'd probably get an earful just because they don't like the card. In the end, it comes down to: Stop whining. Just because you don't find playing seriously fun doesn't mean other people don't, and ultimately, if you can't find fun in playing a children's card game, then don't play it.--YamiWheeler 09:14, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

I mostly agree with you. There are definitely people who enjoy playing seriously. That, however, doesn't mean everyone has to play seriously. Different people enjoy playing casually or seriously. The main thing I'm saying is that people should come to an agreement on how they want to play. If people agree to play seriously, it's good. If people agree to play casually, that's also good. However, regarding people who whine about being overpowered and 'broken' cards, I agree. It's a game. When you play any game, you agree that you generally will either win or lose. It revolves around skill. Being a sore loser and complaining makes it less fun for yourself, and annoys your opponent. --HybridDragoness 05:55, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I follow the advanced format religiously, and the only other people i play regularly have 4 copies and banned cards in their decks, they play monsters face-up in defense and they activate traps on the turn they are set and from their hands. I don't freak out at this, I just enjoy the game, if they 'cheat' or get a ruling wrong I simply pick them up on it and continue the game. I do find the lack of respect for the rules of the game a bit annoying but at the end of the day it doesn't matter. I play GladBeasts which i know is a bit 'Broken' but I put my own influences on it and I didn't just copy others. Basically, Meta Archetypes can be personalized and fun to play and play against. When rules are concerned, there does have to be some respect for them or at least acceptance if they are proven wrong (but so long as everyones having fun, do whatever the hell you like). The-Conman 16:16, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

What I wish is that duelists would respect other duelists picks in ban lists. I play Traditional, along with "super banned" (which my friend would define as running 3 Pot of Greed in one deck) and this one dude at my school would just go yellin and get mean at people for not playing Advanced ban list. "You can't run 3 Pot of Greed, retard". I was cool running 3 Pot of Greed, my opponent I was dueling was ok with me running 3 Pot of Greed, only person who really cared was him.

In short: If you play to a certain ban list, please respect others who play to diffrent ones, even if you don't like to play that way, becasue it's just a card game. Don't go haggling and getting mean with other people who play diffrent ban lists. --97.118.230.173 (talk) 07:50, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Deck > Dueling?
I don't love Dueling as much as I like making my decks. After I make my deck, balance it out, debug it, double-check it, and then count it, I feel extremely thrilled when I challenge someone with it. I don't love anything more in the game of Yu-Gi-Oh! then a suspense-filled game. I have my one special deck: my Ice Barrier Deck. I use Brionac sleeves for my best cards: My three Generals and my Synchros. Have you ever bought a card or booster pack, opened it up, and then find a card that just makes you go: "This would go perfectly with my deck!" That's how I felt when I got my [[White Night Dragon] in an Ancient prophecy pack, and I tell you, White Night Dragon has saved my tail plenty of times.

You can actually tell when someone is completely focused on winning: they complain when something bad happens, they beg for me to spare their monsters (My Sister!), or they start yelling at me that I broke the rules. (They didn't know that White Night Dragon can't be targeted by Spell or Traps -.-) Another way I tell is that I read their body movement: are they smiling? Is their leg shaking, is their hand tightly gripping their...hand? That's how you know they're in it for fun, and even if they make mistakes in the reading or rulings, it makes the Duel way more fun.