Forum:Xyz Materials

In one Shonen JUMP (recent released) announced that this is now same as OCG rulings - Kevin Tewart has failed and booted. This is the reason... -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  10:56, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Why would you trust the word of a magazine barely affiliated with konami over the word of the director of konami? That's just stupid. 92.4.174.127 (talk) 10:59, August 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * I just need to confirm with Admins about this. The video above sound reality though but need to have some proof first. Thanks for your feedback. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  11:04, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think Shonen Jump Magazines are made by Konami; and Julia didn't list them as an 'Official' source... Also; why is this in Lists discussion? Probably should be in General. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:58, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

DemonGodAsura said something along these lines a few days ago. Also, Shonen Jump gets information from Konami and prints it. They don't just post bogus info. BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 15:21, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

You are misinterpreting the text given from the magazine and shonen jump is not an official ruling source.--DoitForTheLulZ! (talk • contribs) 21:10, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

It's not a ruling source, but what they put out is correct. BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 21:11, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

For the moment, we cannot assume what the shonen jump page said is true because A: it's not an official source, and B: no announcement has been made by Kevin Tewart or Konami.--DoitForTheLulZ! (talk • contribs) 21:07, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

I have numerous Shonen Jump issues-what they say is correct. Their information is official stuff from Konami, whether you like it or not. BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 21:09, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, thank you Falzar for put it in right place - I am still inexperience with all those Forums. And now with Boba confirmed it, it's pulling the proof to truth. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:11, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Correlation does not imply causation; while the history of 100% correctness means it's likely SJ got it right here, there is still the chance someone got the wrong memo somewhere and SJ printed a mistake. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:38, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * The official ruling is now confirmed! -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  02:24, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why not just link to the Official rule book? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:18, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Because I took it from GameFAQs, where it proved many information... yes, kick my ass if you must. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  03:19, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * So, Sangan/Tengu are useless if they was used for Xyz Summon?
 * I already read the Konami's page. But my English is not good to understand it.--Lê (talk • contribs) 03:25, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Correct, Le, as we are now following OCG rulings - anything that included being on the field, sending to the Graveyard and search to add or summon are now worthless while the effect that remembered to be remov- banishing (Such as Plaguespreader or Quillbolt) are erasing and can be reusing again. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  03:28, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. :)--Lê (talk • contribs) 03:57, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * This page? Important Rulebook Updates! “Xyz Materials” and “Leaves the Field”
 * Looks to me that they finally decided to follow the OCG.
 * If the official rule book says it, then it would probably by true; remember that Kevin said that it was under review so it was hinted that it may be changed; and it has.
 * So we should remove the discrepancies from the pages here. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:31, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't we retain the fact that the discrepancies existed though. I think we should still mention Tewart's idiocy (this coming from the guy who protected Tewart's page due to vandalism yesterday). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:34, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Julia has announced the new rulebook as well.
 * I agree that we should mention that there was once a discrepancy for historic purposes.
 * Also, it's possible that Kevin was trying to get people to buy the expensive Tour Guides and other cards; once people bought a large amount, he changes it back. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:38, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I still think that discrepancy originated not from Kevin, but from the way certain people interpreted his statements. Dealing with him, it's very important to quote him literally and avoid any sort of interpretation, conclusion or generalization. Also, he has nothing to do with secondary market prices. A card's value is of no direct importance to Konami, all they care about concerning prices are sales of their products (hence the reprints or highly sought-after cards in tin boxes or special editions). What some guy pays some other guy for their card doesn't do Konami any good nor harm, it just doesn't concern them at all. Assuming Kevin's statements were motivated by things like Single Card prices is just wrong. However, now that you say that, the people interpreting his words in just this way might have had their Tour Guides waiting to get sold... Scenia (talk • contribs) 04:45, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * How many times must I repeat this?
 * The question given was So then Tengu would get It's effect when detached?
 * Kevin says Yes, Tengu leaves the field when he's detached. As I said before.
 * We did not misinterpret him. They just changed their minds.
 * Furthermore; in defense of why they had ruled it differently before:
 * Julia Hedberg says Rulings were not finalized, we told you that, but everyone wanted to know how to rule it. So rulings were made based on interpretations of the card effects.
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 08:08, September 2, 2011 (UTC)