User talk:Cheesedude

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Final Time
Crashsnake still doesn't seem to be following the Manual of Style or your final warning as he wrote 'ritual summon' instead of "Ritual Summon' like he had previously done. I don't think he is going to listen to either of us, so do you think we should block him or not?Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 22:50, December 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm keeping an eye on it. I don't see any instances of him adding "ritual summon", it was already like that before he edited those pages. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:55, December 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually I noticed both this and this while keeping an eye on his newer edits. I had to change those as soon as I found out about them. There a couple of other recent ones I had to change too.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 23:55, December 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I really didn't want to do this, but I've blocked him. I'm willing to unblock him if he just responds to the warnings. I'm hoping the block might get him to come around and realize he's not being helpful. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:09, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Double Buster Sword
Even not fully knowing the Japanese language, I guess you know the abyss that exists between it and the English language, right? So, for short, the art of writing foreign languages (mainly English) in Japanese is freaking unstable and changes each day. Many things still can't be adapted well, many things have several ways to be adapted (besides the fact that English's still not Japanese people's native language). For short again, one can't say something's right or wrong about this art. Both "Buster Sword" or "Bustersword" are valid translations. I personally named it "Buster Sword" 'cause that's the one which fits English the best, but Rank 24 was already released in English, and I'll be receiving it soon, with the card's official English name. So renaming it now wouldn't be worthy, unless if it's to match the official name. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:30, December 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, you can ask me away if you have any doubts like that. I've been striking you with questions for a long time as well, so. xD LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 01:03, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Resemblance
It was indeed beside the three heads monsters, they resembled in the Machine-Type. But of course, because of "Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon", No. 107 is not Machine Type at all. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:50, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Help
So.... This month's chapter of 5D's introduced the "Hell" archetype, used by Sect Ijuin. But, it turned out that there was already such a series - "Chthonian" (which are named "Hell" in the Japanese version, just like Sect's cards). I created the page for Sect's archetype and now it got all messed up. :P Could you please help me here? xD The list of "Chthonian" cards has a redirect to "Hell", so now there's a list with "Chthonian" members with a list of "Hell" support cards. :/ Also, should we mix both pages? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:03, December 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks like the support list issue was fixed, so that just leaves the question of combining the pages. Personally, I'd argue against it; as "Chthonian" is a series, its members are tied together thematically, whereas the members of "Hell" are tied together by card effects. This is further borne out by the fact that "Chthonian" is a GX series and "Hell" is a 5D's archetype, and they are used by completely unrelated characters (unless there's something I don't know about Sect and Chazz, which is actually decently likely considering how much (little =D ) I actually know about GX and 5D's). This isn't just a matter of an old series getting random support all of a sudden, but of a "new" archetype being introduced that inadvertently supports an old series. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:07, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * True. I don't really think Viz'll rename Sect's "Hell" monsters to "Chthonian", so guess we should leave 'em like this for now (although the "Chthonians" still are supported by the "Hell" support cards).
 * And no, Sect and Manjoume have absolutely nothing to do with each other. xD LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:39, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Doesn't the fact that Manjoume's cards would be supported by Sect's support card make the whole thing nil? It's an archetype, right?
 * Also, I was never a big believer that "Chthonian" should have had a page to begin with. The cards were thematically similiar but if it wasn't for Manjoume's use of them I don't know that the connection would have been noticed. Anyway, now that's nil because archetype, so that's fine. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:13, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * So in the end, we should mix both? It's just another case of coincidence after all. This happens a lot, mainly with archetypes like "Doll" and "Knight", which besides being largely used for card names, can be easily on a card's name accidentally, like "Aqua Madoor" for example (in Japanese, "Madōru", it has "dōru", which's "doll"). And "Aqua Madoor" is a valid target for a "dōru" support card (well, not in English, but we consider just Japanese, right?). LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 01:31, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * In the end, support = archetype = logic goes straight the hell out the window. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:33, December 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * In addition to what's listed at "Chthonian", there are cards that use Jigoku as romaji. Of the ones I know of, it looks like "Helpoemer" would also be a "Hell" card, while "Inferno Reckless Summon" and "Pandemonium Watchbear" would not. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 10:33, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * The Hell page could be like the Sphinx page; include all members to the archetype (Hell, Chthonian and any other card with a different translation, but the same Japanese Name), but with two different sections, the first for the cards used by Chazz (basically how the Chthonian is now) and the second for Sect's cards (the currently Hell page). --Missign0 (talk • contribs) 13:44, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, "Helpoemer" isn't a "Hell" card. Sect's "Hell" monsters have the Kanji "地獄" (Jigoku) with the Furigana "ヘル" (Heru). A card must have both, the Kanji and the Furigana, in order to be supported by Sect's support cards. In this case, none of the cards you linked would. Although, there's something that I'm not sure about. "Chthonian Soldier" does have the Kanji and the Furigana, but the Furigana isn't specifically "Heru" for "Jigoku", it's everything in 1, "Heru Sorujā" for "Jigoku Senshi". I'm not sure if this'd make him a valid target. I'll ask Ark to know it for sure. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:09, December 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wait, what am I talking about. Of course he is. I got momentarily confused, never mind. xD LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:18, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, you're right, he's not. He has the whole thing only in the kanji. He has the necessary furigana - but it's not furigana, its part of the kanji. So yeah, the only two members other than Sect's cards are "Chthonian Soldier" and "Mefist the Infernal General (all the other "Chthonian" cards have no furigana). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:47, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Dealing with a jerk
So, I keep undoing a contributor's same edit on Number 72's Trivia, and he keeps doing it again. I tried to talk to him, but he ignored. Anything we can do? :/ LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:57, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * A lot of "Number" trivia is just grasping at straws. It doesn't help that many other trivia pages for "Numbers" list calculations like that as the "origin" of the number. So I dunno. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:59, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's just an extreme example; I'll go through the other trivia pages for the "Numbers" and wipe things like that off. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 03:20, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Much appreciated. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:22, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, much appreciated Kuriboh. That all started when I added on the "Numbers" page that (don't remember who) posted on his Twitter that the Numbers' numbers have a reason to be like that, and that they are carefully chosen. Since then, lots of people with lots of free time and nothing to do started creating the most stupid reasons to explain the numbers. :/ What a pain in the ass. :/ LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 21:30, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Speaking of that, could you cite the Twitter post, if able, on the Number page? --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 22:12, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I read about that in this thread, don't remember in which page  though. *__* LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 15:07, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Replying back
I know this was a few days late, but I got your message and I am following along with most of your ideas. However even with the anime lores literally translated and/or removed, other people might get confused and think that it needs to be written in. UltimateKuriboh is doing an excellent job translating the lores in the anime, but it appears the only places to put in these parts that weren't mentioned in the anime lore would be the Duel Summary and the Card Appearances pages. I only hope a better solution than the one I suggested to UltimateKuriboh will come up soon as I think it was just a good at that moment. Reply when you can.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 16:18, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * If they get confused, we revert them and explain why. I don't necessarily think we need to mention all of it on the card pages. A lore and an effect aren't really the same thing. That being said, I think I'll bring this up at Community Discussion later to get some more opinions. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:45, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

4KIDS Mistakes Page
I was going to start on it today, just checking if it's alright? Also what do you think a good name for the page would be? Cheers! TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 22:31, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's fine. As for the title, perhaps Card edits in the dub or something like that? We can always move it later. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:07, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Is the page specifically going to deal with card mistakes or all kinds of mistakes? -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:13, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Scarecrow and I had discussed this on NAC. The idea was to have a page that could be linked to for all 4Kids card edits (i.e. a page like Arkana's Deck: Mistakes in dubbed episodes, but for all instances). We were hoping that having that would then enable us to remove the error cards from the character Decklists. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:17, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * "Card edits in the dub" sounds like the better name to me. You don't mistakenly edit multiple copies of The Winged Dragon of Ra into characters' hands; those are more Freeze Frame Bonuses. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 00:22, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think we should be careful about calling them mistakes, when they may have been intentional. Although "card edits..." sounds to me more like using the same cards, but changing them, such as censoring the artwork. Maybe "card replacements..."? -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:33, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * So Card replacements in the dub? I'll start designing the layout on my profile anyway, so when a name is settled on, could someone let me know please? TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 14:32, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Attack names
So today, I got a peek at some of the chapters of the English Viz Manga of Yu-Gi-Oh! R. Thing is, I am a bit hesitant about my changes to the attack name page. The English manga described a pumped-up version of Blue-Eyes White Dragon's attack as "Destruction Burst Extreme" (I didn't make that change yet). I also believe I remember seeing "Burst Stream of Destruction" being used as an attack name. This confuses me, as the English name for its attack is described as "White Lightning," yet the Japanese name is also "Burst Stream of Destruction." Do I put that as the English attack name or Japanese translated attack name? It also makes me wonder if I messed up when I put the other attack names down... --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 06:14, December 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't have enough English volumes to do much checking, but it's probably just the English manga being inconsistent. If you saw both "Destruction Burst Extreme" and "Burst Stream of Destruction, then list both. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 06:17, December 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * 'scuse for the intruding. Thing is, Viz messes up everything. Well, also attack and effect names use to change a lot when the monster is affected by some effect or something like that (in those cases you should add it like "[attack/effect name] [affected by/equiped with...]"). Sometimes (MANY times) Viz commits mistranslations, or translates the same thing in two different ways. That's Viz's incompetence, and I don't know how we could add those. Maybe we add them as "alternate names". LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 15:28, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Card search categories
Oh. I'm not well conversant with those categories yet. xD Thanks for notifying me. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 15:35, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

ZEXAL - Episode 80
I'm working on Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL - Episode 080 summary and i'm not finshed with duel part can you finish it for me. Thanks highly respet, Stark 18:36, December 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, very nice. I can try to finish the Duel part later if you don't get to it, but I don't know if I'll have the time myself. What's there looks pretty good. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:52, December 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Part of summary of duel between Alit and Yuma isn't finished, but thanks and MERRY CHRISTMAS highly respet, Stark 18:57, December 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * In future, do not repost two topic with same name, you're just make it look funnier. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:03, December 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * oh yea, sorry about that highly respet, Stark 19:05, December 25, 2012 (UTC)