Forum:Genex Ally Birdman,Treacherous Q

1.Can you activate Genex Ally Birdman's effect if you have five monsters on the field and why?(and if you can what is the difference between this and activating Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner with no monsters in your grave?)

2.If I activate Treacherous Trap Hole do both monsters targeted have to be on the field by the time it resolves for them to be destroyed, for example my opponent chains Compulsory Evacuation Device and one monster is returned to the hand is the other one destroyed by Treacherous and why?(and if it is destroyed what is the difference between this and Double Edged Sword Technique where if one target is removed from the grave you don't summon the other one)SaltyPepper (talk • contribs) 21:06, August 25, 2013 (UTC)