Talk:Red Nova Dragon


 * This page shouldn't be deleted, Scarlet Nova Dragon has been officially announced in one of the upcoming episodes of Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's, so why shouldn't it have a page of its own. The type and level might not be known or anything but in this case it follows the line of Shooting Star Dragon who kept the same type and it's level can't be higher because Shooting Star Dragon is the ace monster of the main hero of the series. Masterdramon 18:29, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

No it shouldnt, because anyway its not the first time anyway that a card's page is made even weeks before it is shown on the anime and its mention on an episodes summary. For example Majestic Red Dragon, White Hole, Infernity Doom Dragon where some that follow this situation. DracoX 18:34, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Wait for confirmation. We've had fake episode previews and names before, and this batch seems extra suspicious.


 * Number 70.138.173.219 is correct, don't make up the page without have enough proof. I just don't like see it up without good picture. I know that open show has him in, but still, not enough. So please wait till that episode is air in japan, and then we can work on it. It's like premature baby that had to put back in mother's womb and wait for it to born nature. --FredCat100 01:33, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, I think you lot should leave it up, and when the real name comes up, if it's different, we can rename it. Just leave it alone for the present, and if justifiable grounds for deletion, outside of "it's too soon to make a page for it", come up, then you can delete it.

Scarred, not Scarlet
According to LeArk (DMC and Janime), it's likely is actually Scarred Nova Dragon, not Scarlet Nova (both would be appropriately fitting names though, but given the image we've seen, it is definitely scarred in the face). To quote him from his DMC post: ' "Also, It's name is Scarred, probably. Not Scarlet. :x That D on the last Katakana makes all the difference." ' Anyone agree with changing it? ShinobiPhoenix 08:18, May 14, 2010 (UTC) yes it is and scarlet is a referrence to wow scarlet crusade--Sartorias 15:20, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * So here we are, it is Scarred after all. Even though we are currently saying it as "Scar-Red" it still is Scarred in the end.  ShinobiPhoenix 11:32, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * So, if that is the case, we should move the page, correct? Qim1 23:36, May 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Except that it was moved. "Scar-red" seems to be another wordplay.  "Scarred" (for his look, face and symbol of Jack's wounded pride needing what it did) as well as emphasis on "red."  I just mean in the end, the word "Scarred" was correct, just with some wordplay added in.  ShinobiPhoenix 07:33, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

atk?
how do you know his atk?--Arcanitejedi 14:28, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

i assume it will follow the same patern as shooting star dragon much as majestic star and majestic red have an attack defense and level pattern. even though its in the intro this pic looks awesome the card art will likely be equally epic Kazisaki 00:45, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

You're probably right, however the pattern doesn't always hold. ASSAULT MODES: Stardust(+500 ATK/DEF), Red Dragon Archfiend(+500/ATK DEF) MAJESTIC: Stardust(+1300ATK/1000DEF), Red(+1000 ATK/DEF) Shooting Star gains 800 ATK/500 DEF. So it's possible that Nova Dragon might gain the same numbers, as with the Assault Modes - which would put its stats at 3800/2500. Or, if it follows the Majestics' pattern, its ATK increase could be 300 points less than Stardust's - 500/500, which would put it at 3500/3000, with 200 ATK points more than SSD.

17.102.41.64 14:14, May 22, 2010 (UTC)An Aki fanboy

Level
Wow, I never thought there would be a level 12 Synchro Monster, I thought the highest they could go would always be 10.--Dragonking 21:30, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Not an Accel Synchro, but...
You COULD still Accel Synchro it out... in real life. Since the opponent turn thing is part of the Synchro/Tuner and not the Accel Synchro now, all Synchros are "Accel Synchros" anyway as far as real life is concerned. ShinobiPhoenix 12:06, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Effect?
2 tuners?and not synchro tuners? this is one cripy monster!--Arcanitejedi 12:17, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Repost of the Scans (originally posted in Starstrike Discussion)

 * Original WJUMP Anime Scan


 * Cropped Scar-Red Nova Dragon shot


 * Cropped Attack Gainer and Create Resonator shot

What we CAN confirm from these are the Level and Synchro Materials (not to mention there's PURE logic in the fact Jack doesn't get this from a RIDING DUEL, which is also a requirement for something that is SPEED BASED). What you cannot confirm is whether or not Attack Gainer and Create Resonator is in the next set due to this talking about the anime and as such, not having setcodes even printed on. Doesn't say they won't, doesn't say they will. Only that Jack will use them for Scar-Red. I PERSONALLY say they won't be in set because they are clones of Flare Resonator and Synchro Magnator respectively. Extremely close clones and they are all even Tuners as well. I'm thinking they are just made to be the correct levels and work with some strategy Jack is doing. Still the scans exist and they are from WJUMP. Not something people can deny without prior drug usage or brain damage. I didn't believe it at first either, BUT I ASKED FOR PROOF AND IT WAS GIVEN QUICKLY AND CONFIRMED BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WE HAVE HAD NO PROBLEM BEFORE TRUSTING BEFORE. It's like people ignore things when it makes things feel fluffy. Problem with the internet generation. ShinobiPhoenix 22:06, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Two Tuner Monsters?
Is there any proof it takes two Tuner Monsters to play this card?


 * The scans are more than enough proof. They were already translated by LeArk, Shriek and Danieru Lynx separated.  Just because a monster hasn't done something before, doesn't mean one can't set a precedent.  I can say these are for the anime, but in the case of Scar-Red, that is more than enough as it won't really change the requirements so much as whatever effects it has.  The other two, not so much.  ShinobiPhoenix 03:14, May 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * is there a web link to confirm this page?
 * Why would there be a website for a Japanese card YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO READ YOURSELF? Obviously, you can't read kanji or you wouldn't be asking, so you want English.  No, all the info is coming from Janime, DMC and any place that has the scans and people who can translate them or spreading the original info around.  If you want to suddenly disbelief people you had no problem believing before, that's your problem.   People trust LeArk easily and I talk to Shriek on a daily basis and the only reason he didn't add the 2 Tuner part is because he prefers putting info about the set cards not the anime.  Lynx is the one who keeps adding anime info, but it is what it is and no amount of doing this to annoy people is going to change that and both Shriek and Lynx agree on it being 2 tuners for the anime at least.  The scans are FOR THE ANIME, but it's not going to change the requirements for the real card, only the effects.  Obviously, people are going along with it.  ShinobiPhoenix 03:49, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

my thoughts
i think this card is an accel synchro for 3 reason and they are Reason 1. yusei tells jack and crow about accel synchro in ep 73 or 74 and they set out to figure out how it works meaning it not being one would be pointless to for the story to tell jack and crow about it.

Reason 2. the yiliaster guys use the infinity cards that absorb synchros meaning this card would be useless against them because as soon as he summons it the next turn they could take it from him.

Lastly Reason 3. since team 5DS is made up of yusei, jack and crow will have to duel all three yiliaster guys at the end of the WRPG meaning 3 inifinite monsters then 3 accel synchro monsters to battle them cause like that "god" told yusei boths sides to the future most be given an equal chance. This also means that crow will get an accel synchro monster since hes on the 3 man team that will duel the infinite monsters, basicly 3 vs 3 for the future. This is what i think anyway.

MIKE G THE MAZOKU

For the n00b who doesn't check the history page
I put one of the sources in the edit that I made, but you ignored it. Kumaorika - blog-entry-843 Site says "チューナー２体＋レッド・デーモンズ・ドラゴン" That means 2 Tuner Monsters + Red Dragon Archfiend. Falzar FZ 09:49, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's nice, but if people aren't reading the history pages, what makes you think they are reading the Discussion Pages? Thanks for putting here for those that do read the Discussion Pages though.  ShinobiPhoenix 10:43, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I just made an edit that should ensure anyone who changes it NOW should just be considered a troll. Plain and simple.  With the kanji posted up, anyone with a brain could see the "2" screaming at them and even something as stupid as Google Translate will translate that little bit of text for someone who attempts it.  ("チューナー２" = "Tuner 2," "体" = "Body," "＋ レッド・デーモンズ・ドラゴン" = "+ Red Demons Dragon")  This can't even be remotely denied unless someone wants to claim someone wrote up fake kanji text now.  To which I say, you're a troll and an idiot just looking for excuses to be annoying... or not.  Like a troll needs an excuse.  ShinobiPhoenix 11:11, May 28, 2010 (UTC)