User talk:ATEMVEGETA

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RE:Translation help!/Rulings Idea!
Oops, sorry, I thought I responded to this....

The ruling is about how to officially record the win in official tournaments.

Q: Please explain how to record it when, in an official tournament, you win the match with the effect of "Victory Dragon".

A: When you're in an official tournament where you play one Match of three Duels, if you win a match with the effect of "Victory Dragon", then you record the wins and losses as follows:


 * 1st Duel [As in, you use "Victory Dragon" to win the first Duel of the Match.]
 * 2 wins, 0 losses [You record it as if you won two Duels.]


 * 2nd Duel [You play one Duel, and then you use "Victory Dragon" to win the second one.]
 * 1 win => 2 wins, 0 losses [If you won the first Duel, then you record it as two wins.]
 * 1 draw => 2 wins, 1 draw [If you drew the first Duel, then you record it as two wins/one draw.]
 * 1 loss => 2 wins, 1 loss


 * 3rd Duel
 * 1 win, 1 loss => 2 wins, 1 loss [If you won the first Duel and lost the second, then you record it as two wins/one loss.]
 * 1 win, 1 draw => 2 wins, 1 draw
 * 1 loss, 1 draw => 1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss (Win) [You record it as one win/one loss/one draw, and then note that you won the Match.]
 * 2 draws => 1 win, 2 draws (Win)

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For the new rulings thing, we should probably start a Forum topic about it.

Personally, I'd just delete the old rulings. It's just like what happened when UDE updated their FAQ -- in that case, we didn't keep the old rulings. Konami is basically doing the same thing, so we shouldn't keep the old ones. But that's just me. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 05:34, November 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Late reply is late :(
 * I'd delete all the old rulings. Using my comparison to UDE updating its FAQ, the rulings are no longer on the FAQ, so we shouldn't include them.  Konami decided to drop them, so they're either (a) unnecessary/repetitive/obvious and/or (b) no longer accurate and/or (c) Konami is insane.  Hopefully not the third one.
 * For your template, honestly, it looks a little crowded. I'd prefer it if the rulings were spread out more, like they are currently.  There's also the smaller font.
 * Anyway, you should probably ask these things on the forum. I'm not around that much (stupid real life D:<), so it's probably better to ask the people that are actually here.  --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 21:17, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

help me please
i know that is a easy question but... i could disscad D.D. Crow when the oponent use the effect of "machina forress" and the oponet discarded "machina fortress or is aready in the graveyard. please answerme and i apology for my english, i'm mexican

Re: Problem with wiki
The history link is in the "My Tools" menu in the bottom right corner. In articles there's also a dropdown where it says "Edited by user name", but that doesn't appear in user talk pages.

The messed-up names is a result of the extension SMW being disabled. It's nothing to do with the new skin, but it's been renabled now. All pages should be fixed unless you're looking at a cached version.

A lot of people dislike the new skin too, but we don't really have a choice but to use it. However individual users are able to change their skin to Monobook, which was the default skin before the previous one. The previous one can't be used anymore. You can change to Monobook in the "site layout" section in Special:Preferences if you want. -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:08, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

thanx
thank you bro, i'm sure you're a great yu-gi-oh player. i'm just a starter player and i have many questions. and i have that question, thanx again. desde tuxpan ver. mexico carlos

Nice to see you back
Anyways, can you please have a look at Forum:Syncho/Fusion Monster, G.B. Hunter and Giant Trunade? I'm not entirely comfortable with what happened in the game... -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:28, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Japanese lores + translated
Are you suggesting that we list the OCG Japanese lore, an English translation of the OCG Japanese lore, as well as the TCG English lore? Do you want to list this on pages where the TCG lore is an exact translation of the OCG lore too? Did you say some pages are already displaying the translated Japanese lore? If so, could I see an example? -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:44, January 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah cool, hidden text. I understand. I don't see any problems with adding that. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:38, January 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, you can add them wherever you think they're necessary. Any card that has an official Japanese lore should at least have their Japanese lore printed on their article. Some don't, since we're not finished. You can add missing ones if you want. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:49, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Will you be translating the Japanese lores yourself? If so, I'm going to go ahead and add you to my translators list, if you don't mind. =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:59, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Dark Gaia
I like the OCG lore translation idea above; and on a similar topic, is the OCG text of Evil Hero Dark Gaia supposed say it's a Mandatory or an Optional Trigger? Video games, including WC10, shows the text as an Optional Trigger, and the card itself is programmed to be an optional trigger when it is used. However, the TCG text doesn't say "you can", so it's a Mandatory Trigger. Also, there aren't any rulings which say or hint which it actually is. If it actually is meant to be an Optional Trigger in the OCG, what do we do in the TCG? Do we follow the card? Thanks. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:41, January 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Video Games > TCG translations :/ ... lol
 * That would mean my answer in Forum:Karakuri vs Evil Hero Dark Gaia would need to be changed. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:55, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hello
Hey hello, ATEMVEGETA... I was woundering... are you a judge??? sorry about my englis spelling jejeje =] have a nice day =] Enyel (talk • contribs) 11:35, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Divine Wrath vs Effect Veiler, Maxx C, Swift Scarecrow
Can Divine Wrath stop Effect Veiler? I'm pretty sure Effect Veiler starts a chain.

What about Swift Scarecrow & Maxx C? --ShadowShine51 (talk • contribs) 09:23, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Greetings & Psychic Snail Rulings Q
Greetings ATEM,

Just a quick-ish rulings question for you,

Is Psychic Snail different in OCG text?

"That monster can attack twice during each Battle Phase"

However, when tested in both Tag Force 5, & Duel Transer, it only enables the targeted monster to attack twice during the turn the effect is used on it.

So, yeah, do you have any ideas on this?

Thanks

-Resk (talk • contribs) 12:04, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

The main point i was asking about was the

"That monster can attack twice during each Battle Phase"

but you answered that anyway,

thank you,

-Resk (talk • contribs) 21:55, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hi again,

Someone had incorrectly 'corrected' the... corrected text on Zombie World on your.. corrected card page, I changed it to what it should be, hope you don't mind :3

-Resk (talk • contribs) 12:27, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Help with the watchlist!
I don't think it can be done using the Watchlist. There are a few alternatives: -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:36, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * On the recent changes, there's a namespace filter. If you select "Card Rulings" on that, you get recent changes for Card Rulings only.
 * Similarly Special:NewPages can be used to only show new rulings pages.
 * Finally, Special:RecentChangesLinked can be used to find changes to all pages in a category.e.g. Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Card Rulings. That's not as good as the recent changes by namespace however, as it won't work if people don't use

Rulings
Hey, I hope you are ok =]

I was looking around and I see in ruling page (edit) that says Reference but when i click Edit i dont see anything only and I was woundering how you edit that section of that page... because there are ruling missing on Storm of Ragnarok. Thanks for your attention =] ȜȠɎȨȴ.Ƿɔ.ɯɨʞɨ (talk • contribs) 18:53, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

W Nebula + Solem Warning Ruling Q
Greetings Atem,

Simple question,

Can Solemn Warning negate W Nebula Meteor due to it having a Lingering Effect to special summon a monster?

thanks

-Resk (talk • contribs) 13:40, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

ty again for fast response

-Resk (talk • contribs) 13:54, February 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ty for the ruling update

-Resk (talk • contribs) 15:54, February 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Can you check the Konami FAQs please? or an official source. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 21:46, February 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok... but how is this different to the situation where Stardust cannot be used against Mysterious Triangle Junk Box because it doesn't have a destroying effect. It just leaves a lingering effect that destroys the monster during the End Phase? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:57, February 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Er.... ok Triangle wasn't the best choice. Fixed.
 * But Future Fusion shouldn't be a Lingering effect... should it?
 * I finally figured out how to get into that site (yugioh-wiki.net). It always said "Forbidden You don't have permission to access /index.php on this server." whenever I go on it.
 * Apparently Aus IPs aren't allowed, US IPs seem to be fine.
 * I couldn't find your quote, but I found:
 * Ｑ：このカードに対し《王宮の弾圧》、《神の警告》を発動することはできますか？
 * Ａ：いいえ、できません. (11/02/18)
 * I found your quote in Google Cache though...
 * Ａ：はい、できます. (11/02/17)
 * They changed it? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 10:46, February 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Changing it in 1 day is like, the fastest official ruling reversal in the history of Yu-Gi-Oh xD
 * I see, thanks for the explanations. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 22:29, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ice Edge Ruling
Sorry, I must have pasted it onto the wrong tab, it was meant to be for this. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:12, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Condition or Effect?
Can you please check Forum:Malefic Truth Dragon question? If it's true that it's an effect, what kind of effect is it? It's not Continuous since it's applied in the Hand. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:08, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Infernity Barrier Ruling?
I just noticed that there are no page for "Infernity Barrier"... can it negated "Honest" or "Battle Fader" if my opponent activated them from their hand to counter the attack? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:35, March 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your respond, it just happened when I used Infernity against my buddy last night and this is where I coming across with a problem. But now it's solved. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  11:03, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

RE: RE: W Nebula + Solem Warning Ruling Q

 * But it was going so well... ok, thanks for the update.
 * So the Japanese Wiki doesn't source their rulings? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 01:32, March 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, so it seems like they contain both official and unofficial rulings; though, it doesn't really help if they don't differentiate them :/
 * From experience, do you think video games (like WC11) have a higher 'correct ruling rate' than those sites? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 09:53, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Prisma, Dark Gaia, etc.
I noticed that "Evil Hero Dark Gaia" was listing in Elemental Hero Prisma's Ruling list, but it's also missing "Five-Headed Dragon" due to it fusion name not showing. Should it be adding or ignored? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:17, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Vandalism on Card Ruling pages
It's not possible to prevent users with an edit count less than a specified amount from editing certain pages. The next step up from up from what we have in place at the moment is autoconfirmed only. That only allows accounts that are at least four days old and have made at least ten edits. The next step after that is administrators only. I'm certainly against making it administrators only. I'm not entirely in favour of making it autoconfirmed only. You can see more information here and comment if you want. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:45, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Effect Resolutions

 * Can you please have a look at Forum:Alector, Sovereign of Birds Q.
 * No matter how I explain: "Exiled Force's {effect Activates on the field and Resolves on the field}, even though the {card is in the Graveyard}.", he doesn't believe me.
 * I even linked to Forum:Debris dragon and lonefire, which shows Deus agreeing with me on that (Except Exiled Force is replaced with Lonefire, and Alector is replaced with Debris Dragon in that). -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:03, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Lava Golem's Effect
Does it target? If I have Obelisk on the field that was tribute summon via sac Hardened Armed Dragon, then my opponent decide to tribute my Obelisk along with random monster via using Lava Golem... is that what you think? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:35, March 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, thanks for an answer. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  10:54, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Conditions
Can you please take a look and post your ideas at Talk:Condition Effect? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:09, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Forum crying for your helps
This is all you need to answer. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:22, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Negating Card effects that activates on hand
Can I use cards such as Doomcaliber Knight and Gladiator Beast War Chariot to negate card effects such as Honest, Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow and Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind?

Can you please elaborate on the "Negating Card" issues?

Thanks Butterflyelma (talk • contribs) 05:28, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Addition to the negate effect question
Can I also negate effects of Dark World Monsters using Doomcaliber Knight and Gladiator Beast War Chariot? Butterflyelma (talk • contribs) 05:42, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Another request/question

 * At Forum:Horus the black flame lv6, can you please explain why there are rulings which say it returns instantly?
 * Also, while I'm at it, why do Heavy Storm and Malevolent Catastrophe not destroy themselves, but cards like Blasting Fuse and Black Rose Dragon do destroy themselves? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 21:56, March 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see. Thanks. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 22:37, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Zoma
Why did you change the name on the rulings page? The name of the monster is Zoma the Spirit (in English) and I'm pretty certain that we use TCG names unless none is available.

what card can negate the summon of gorz?
Janjan123 (talk • contribs) 02:45, April 21, 2011 (UTC) may i ask if solemn warning can negate the special summon of gorz? i am confused on what kind special summon can be negated by solemn warning and solemn judgement? can you also please give me examples? or what kind of cards can negate the summon of gorz? thanks :))

Activate
If I have Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En and Great Shogun Shien on my field and my oppponent uses an Icarus Attack, I then negated it Using Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En's effect, can he chain Solemn Judgement to it even though I have Great Shogun Shien? If I negate a card that activates, does that mean that it did not activate? meaning my opponent can still activate another card spell/trap card? —This unsigned comment was made by Butterflyelma  (talk • contribs)  03:53, 2011 April 27 

Delta Crow - Anti Reverse
If a control 1 black wing monster, Can I activate Delta Crow - Anti Reverse if it is set on my field? Does the three black wing requirements applies only if I activate it from hand? —This unsigned comment was made by Butterflyelma  (talk • contribs) 04:10, 2011 April 27  

Conditions again
"Fusion Substitute Monsters" can be negated. But Tuner Substitutes like "Quickdraw Synchron" can't be negated (per its Rulings page). Do you know if it's just a special case (BKSS) since it's the only "Tuner Substitute Monster" with rulings? or if it's like that for every "Tuner Substitute Monster" (Vanadis of the Nordic Ascendant is probably the only other one, but has no rulings and is TCG only), in that case, it would need to be added to Condition Effects. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 05:21, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Mirror, Mirror, the beautiful that can destroy you...
I have notice that couple users have tried to screw up the Ruling article into unofficial, no evidence rulings. I would like to ask you to keep the eye on it to see if it keep catch the virus from them again... This article would sure enough... -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:02, May 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem, that's a judge friend are for! I maybe novice, but I could like to keep them legal and official. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  10:44, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

I rather ATEM or Falzar blah blah
Check this article out and expect to shot the question down... -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:05, May 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I am not that much well aware of the rulings... I am only "Level 1 Judge", unlike rest of other you mentioned. Twice, Dest corrected the mistake I made so far. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:36, May 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Take a look at Falzar's respond, he just corrected me again. So that's why I considered myself Level 1 Judge. I am sure you're Perfection Judge due to your expert knowledge of all those rules as well as Falzar. All other members that respond there are in between of you and I. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:46, May 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, thanks for positive feedback. I will keep that in my mind. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  11:44, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Flip =/= Activate?
As you could see in that forum that I was discussing with some user about "Phantom Hand" vs. "Dark Bribe". If you "revealing" the trap card from face-down to the face-up, is that consider as "Activate"? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:48, May 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's what I thought, that person who think Flip =/= Activate is wrong at all. Also I already proved him wrong with OCG rulings. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:23, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Prevent False Rulings
Apparently there wasn't enough support for plan A. Want to take a look at plan B? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 07:47, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lack of Picture Gallery
As you have noticing that I earned some edit counts by create the loadcrap of missing Gallery. I don't get that they are become forgotten when ZEXAL arrived...? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:15, May 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * I can handle the create gallery just fine. But I am just wonder why they are not very action as it used to be before. Oh, on little note, you're right about little helps... I need to collect all various language of cards and shove them there too. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:34, May 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * I respect that. And I am sure that Cheesy-- I mean, Cheese would give me a hand for the various language card... As of one I tried to upload in Gallery was long dead, it's should be Japan version... -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  15:34, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I just noticed that it's not ever create... Do you need any help get some information for it? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  15:42, May 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Then explain why you put that kind of link on "Armed Dragon LV3" and crap like that, if you already have that kind of rulings, then put that link... Sorry that my head is on other side of the earth right now. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:41, May 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * As you noticed, I covered Armed Dragon LV3 for you. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:04, May 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't deserve a thanks like this. I am already hearted by you a while ago, by consider me an important member of Judge. So in future, whatever you leave in the mess, I will try to cover it as much as possible. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:09, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Rulings
Question: Should anything be done with Netrep rulings?

Thanks. And as for the "Yu-Judges"? Do I list those as old?


 * On the topic of Yu-Judges being UDE rulings and are now unofficial, the ruling "If both "Spirit of the Six Samurai" and the equipped "Six Samurai" monster are destroyed by the same effect, the "Spirit of the Six Samurai's" effect is not applied." links to Yu-Judges. (I know about the email confirming it) but in WC11, Judgment Dragon only destroys the Union monster, not the equipped monsters. Is this a bug in WC11, or does the OCG want it that way? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:16, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Just to let you know...
This article need to be update soon... I just found it with ban card ("Change of Heart") and no format arranging... So I just tried to fixing it and left it for you to finish it off. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  13:56, May 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, that's good, at least I eyed one for you to cover it up. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:43, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

In the Name of Black...
Some user deleted the bunch of rulings in "Black Tyranno" Ruling Article and mentioned that you shoved in "Black Rose Dragon" details in there. Was he wrong or am I doing it wrong? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:37, May 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I saw that coming. So hope that user is happy now. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

New article to cover up
I think you missed one and should get it fixing? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:05, May 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Previous Rulings? Are all those listed by Konami? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:16, May 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * All I need to believe is your "yes" or "no". No link necessary, but at least it would save some trouble for error rulings. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:24, May 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, that's just little ridiculous if the first name is already at Navi box... -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:10, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

A Scrap Ruling just scrap on the article!
I would like you to watch it over due to some idiot trying to shove up the unconfirmed rules there. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:00, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Annoy Bee in the Air...
...having try to screw up our rulings articles, he had done up to four articles by time I am going to report this to you. The latest was "Future Fusion" and "Pot of Duality", talk about activate those cards at same turn. Can you smacking him down and talk to him? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:33, May 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Um, never mind the "smacking" part. He just came to me and admitted an apologize as well as promised to post the list in Talk Page from this point on. If you take a look in my talk page, you would know where he got all the information from. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:43, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Card Rulings:Brain Crusher
Why do you want Card Rulings:Brain Crusher deleted? -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:14, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to pecking your head...
But I think someone need your help to make it clearly. It's about Celri, Monk of Dark World effect on itself. Does it second effect activate if he is selected by himself when he's discarded from the hand via "Card Destruction"? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:42, May 20, 2011 (UTC)