Forum:Chivalry & My Body as a shield

Q1: Chivalry is used against Scrap dragon or stardust assault mode and destroy them, will they still gain their 2nd effect to special summon a monster afterward?

Q2: is the same apply with "My body as a shield"?

Q2: what if i forbidden chalice scrap dragon or stardust assault mode and than dark hole, will they still gain their 2nd effect to special summon a monster afterward?

thank you