User talk:Dinoguy1000/Archive/2012/07

Block user
Could you please block this user? He/she continues to insert fake info  despite previous warnings. -- The Goblin  17:46, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Done. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:57, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

Ratio template
Hi there. Did you find any idea about this template's new layout? Also I don't know if you noticed the suggestion I gave you, maybe it could be useful for you. -- Brunjox ( talk, contrib ) 11:46, July 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I saw it. I just didn't have anything to say about it at the time. ;)
 * I'm not sure that would really work, though; Decklist is designed like it is because it displays potentially very long lists that need collapsed for readability/usability of the rest of the page. That isn't a concern on Set Ratios pages, though. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 13:25, July 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Right, I just threw in my 2 cents because, as I said, I didn't find any better idea - at least by browsing Wikia's templates.
 * Sooooo I can recognize you haven't "seen the light" yet about the layout problem. :) -- Brunjox ( talk, contrib ) 14:08, July 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Nope, and I haven't really had the time to give it much thought recently, either. =( 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 15:35, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Official?
How come the manga cards' names/lores be official? They were never released in English, neither in the manga nor in the TCG. :| LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:46, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Rank 19 was published in this week's Weekly Shonen Jump Alpha (yes, they really skipped the chapters between 1 and 19). =) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:49, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Wait, so it started from Rank 19? What the hell? xD Is it an online magazine? If yes, could you please send me the link? I'd like very much to see it. :3 I don't have the summary of Rank 19 complete anyway. :/LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:53, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, yes and no. A few issues ago it ran Rank 1 as a sort of preview, then it skipped up to 19 to start the actual serialization.
 * Yes, it's an online magazine (a continuation of Shonen Jump, actually), but it's subscriber-only. The website is over there if you'd like to look at getting a subscription, though (it's a weekly magazine, and has a decent amount of shonen fair - Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, Toriko, Nura, Barrage, and (once a month) Rurouni Kenshin and our own ZEXAL - as well as stuff like interviews with mangaka). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:01, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, it can be only purchased from U.S. and Canada xP. What a shame... But you have a subscription, right? LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 18:15, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yep, I'm a convert from the print magazine. =D 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:34, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Great. ^^ So could you help me with the latest manga chapters? Like, adding what I don't find? Even if all my sources, its still hard to find everything, like the full summary, the card images, the name, etc. :P LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 19:04, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I can help out with (English) card images/names/lores as time permits, but can't do much with the summaries - I've never been any good at summarizing, and I lost interest in actually following the YGO manga after trying and failing to read Ride 1 from 5D's (interestingly enough, the whole GX Duel Academy thing that so many people were bothered by, never really bothered me). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:38, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I can help out as well if you need it, also a convert from the print magazine. ^_^ Just let me know! Look234 (talk • contribs) 19:45, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ooh, cool, you too Look? What print issues do you have? =D 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:49, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * All of them >.>, I started back a Issue #3 and got hooked. I grabbed the ones I was missing on ebay. Kind of a big fan of Shonen Jump. ^_^ Look234 (talk • contribs) 19:55, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Great, some help! ^^ Thanks for offering! If any of you think you are not good at summarize or something like that, you can just tell me more or less what happens and I do it myself, or something like that. I essentially am not good at that either to tell the truth, but after taking care alone of the mangas for this time, I learned something. ;D I guess...xD LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:34, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Bah, and just when I finally thought I had you beat in something. =D Do you have any of the special issues? 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:49, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Haha it took a while to find all of them in good condition, and yep I have Issue #0 and the Free Comic Book Day, May 2009 Volume 2, Issue #1. ^_^ Look234 (talk • contribs) 03:01, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * So you don't have Special Edition No. 00 from 2005? Heh, that means I am beating you (albeit in a totally insignificant way)! (also, "Not for individual sale or resale"... lol) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:13, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Man you got me there, I didn't even know about that one. >.< Glad to know there is another Shonen Jump fan around. ^.^ Look234 (talk • contribs) 03:19, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * I wonder if there're any other special issues... I know of the Scholastic edition that featured JMPS-EN001 Troposphere, but it doesn't look like it actually differs from the equivalent newsstand/subscriber issue of SJ.
 * Do you collect any other magazines (primarily anime/manga, but I'm also curious about just in general)? I've got a few issues of Shojo Beat that my library was looking to get rid of, but other than that I don't have anything anime/manga related (though I'd love to start collecting others). More generally, I have a pretty mean collection of National Geographic Magazine (some of my issues are from the 70's and maybe even 60's... almost twice my age! =D) and some other odds and ends (some issues of National Geographic Traveler and National Geographic Adventure, some Scientific American issues, a couple Smithonians, some Game Informers, some Reader's Digests, etc.), though I don't have any real plans to try and expand my collections of any of these. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:32, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Also, I don't suppose you have any idea where Viz stores the actual page images for SJ Alpha, do you, Look? I'd like to start keeping archival copies of the issues (especially since they're going to expire after a year), but I've never been able to find them and I really don't want to download rips from some random site. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:37, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * The only other special issue I can remember is the Fifth Anniversary Collector's Issue. It's pretty easy to get a hold of. I could never find the Scholastic edition though, sad day. -_- And yep I do collect others, in the manga category I have a few Weekly Jump and V Jump from when I went to Japan a year ago. I also have about 350+ graphic novels, mainly Shonen Jump. As for other magazines I do have a few Nat Geos a couple of old ones as well from 1955 I found at a yard sale, just to cool to pass up. ^_^ Others I collect are Architectural Digest, Azure, a couple of Make magazines, and various design and editing magazines. I just like getting idea from them, really nice photos and cool concepts.
 * And I've looked through the source and they have hidden it a bit, I can't quite find it at the moment. For now I've just been doing full screen screenshots, I also have had that same idea of archiving the Alpha issues. ^_^ Look234 (talk • contribs) 04:00, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * I seem to remember seeing some copies of the Scholastic edition on eBay back around the time it was released, but I don't think any of them were still shrink wrapped - anyone who knew enough to know what they were looking at with that edition would have bought as many copies as they could to get as many copies of the promo as possible, and resold the magazine and cards separately.
 * I've been all through the HTML source of one of the viewer pages, and a lot of the Javascript files as well. It's looking more and more to me like some variables are set somewhere and the Flash viewer takes these variables and constructs the appropriate URLs out of them to get the images, or something along that line. I've also tried looking through the resources listed in Chrome's data inspector, again no dice. =( 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:15, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * I will keep an eye out for the Scholastic edition. Yeah I can grab the reader .swf file but it doesn't get past the loading bar because it needs the Javascript input I'm guessing. They are getting better at this protecting their material business. :P Look234 (talk • contribs) 04:26, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * IAll right, I think I got it figured out: In Chrome's data inspector, open the "Network" tab and reload the reader page. Actual issue images will be .jpg's with digit names under the URL "paidmedia.viz.com/manga/shonenjump/wsja/" (the images should be the last objects loaded, or close to it). Unfortunately, each image appears to have a unique "crypton" hash which is required to actually view the image; without this hash you just get an error notice with a reference number. This means we'll have to grab each image one-by-one (or you could use a network sniffer or the like to grab the images automatically as they're loaded). It does go reasonably fast once you've gotten into the rhythm, though. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:20, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah I had a feeling there would be a specific sequence for each user that is verified elsewhere. Man, oh well Print Screen for now. :P Look234 (talk • contribs) 16:57, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Ideally, a "summary" should cover pretty much everything that happens in an episode/chapter, up to and including irrelevant banter between characters. So it's not really even a "summary", its more like an "almost word-for-word retelling of the episode/chapter"). Partial summaries are fine too. Something is better than nothing in this case. I don't think my summaries are particularly great, but that doesn't stop me from writing them anyway. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:45, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Pft, if your summaries aren't good, then mine are random craps. I try to tell what happens, but I don't know well how to do that. And the fact of my native language not being English just makes things worse. >__<


 * By the way, at Luna (ZEXAL), they are already posting she has at least 11 Numbers, including 5 and 59 as well. Could you, Dinoguy or Look, please check in the English manga, in the part she reveals she's a Numbers Hunter, how many Numbers card appeared behind her (exactly the scene from the image in her article), and which ones had their numbers shown? I can't tell for sure since the Japanese scan I had was cut in half. :PLegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:52, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yours seem fine to me. Yeah, the grammar could use some work, but if English isn't your first language, that's totally understandable (not that my grammar is flawless either). You get better as you go along too. Some of my early summaries were abysmal. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:20, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * From what I can tell, it isn't implied in the least that the Numbers shown behind Luna are the ones she owns (or even that she actually owns any Numbers, though she does seem to have intimate knowledge of what they do to Duelists that own one); the dialogue on that page proceeds as follows:
 * Luna (panel 1): "In light of your skill, I have a favor to ask."
 * Shark: "A favor...?"
 * Luna (panel 2): "Erase all the Numbers..." "...from this world!"
 * Shark (panel 3; thought): "The Numbers?!"
 * If you still want to know regardless, the Numbers shown behind Luna are 5, 76, 27, 59, 13, and 60, and there are two with only one identifiable digit, ?0 and ?5, and there are three that have no identifiable digits. I can upload an image of that panel or the whole page (or the two-page spread) if you'd like visual confirmation. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:49, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've linked to this discussion over at Neo Ark Cradle. I'm going to see if anyone there can compare the dialogue to the what the Japanese version had.
 * Also, re-reading my summary spiel above, I should clarify that I understand that you both have other projects on-wiki as well ans if you prefer to do those, go for it. Just saying that any help with summaries wouldn't be unappreciated. ^_^ Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:54, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, as long as I'm here, you don't need to worry about the mangas. 8D LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:48, July 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Did anything come of that discussion, Cheesedude? Could you link me to it? 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:37, July 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, not really. But here. Bottom fourth of the page. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 09:39, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

List of Token Monsters
The second list in that page is not showing up and I want to go through all the manga tokens too, since it seems they were subject to rampant Type/Attribute speculation. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:18, July 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Fixed. Fun fact: apparently, there are no Tokens that have appeared both in the anime and manga, but that have not been released in the OCG/TCG (or our tagging of such could just be teh suxorz)! 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:37, July 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I've gone through them. Two things: That list seems to include TCG tokens as well. Even "Sheep Token" is listed there. Also, there is some indication that several of the manga "tokens" are not actually tokens. I've asked Ryusui about it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:48, July 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * The TCG tokens are appearing because they don't have any set info; CardTable2 only uses the set info parameters when deciding if cards are anime/manga/vg-exclusive. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:34, July 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * ....we really need separate pages for the "official token cards" then. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 09:37, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Imbox style.png
Would you know how to do a template of "File:Imbox style.png" for video games non-PNG images? IgorThunderMaster (talk • contribs) 20:34, July 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm really not sure what you're asking; could you link to an example? 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:35, July 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * All right, now I understand what you're asking about: "File:Imbox style.png" is used for the warning message box on non-PNG card images when they use OCG-TCG card image (I hope that makes sense). You're asking how to make such a warning box for video game card images. The answer is, you'll eventually be able to do so with the current template, adding it the same way you do to OCG/TCG card images, but first I'll have to finish the template's support for VG card images (there's a bit of support now, but it's spotty and untested; I'll have to sit down and work on it some more). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:02, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Kachi Kochi Dragon attack name
No problem, call me what you want. ;) If it gets easier for you, you can call me Kank as well (short for Kankurou, my main username). By the way, do you know how can I add an "AKA" to my profile? xP
 * OK, so, 'bout the name. Well, that's not the name of the attack; its just an order. Luna just ordered him to pulverize Righty. This can be a little confusing some times, but many characters just order a monster to do something when activating an effect or attacking (rip 'em to shreds, destroy, rise, protect, etc.). Those are not actual attack or effect names; actual names usually are things more like, for example, Bahamut's Divine Soul. You can recognize it for the different style. Instead of orders, they are like descriptions (e.g. Thunder Blade, Great Cannon, Dragon Flame, etc.).LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 15:59, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * If Exodia's "Obliterate" is being treated as an attack name, we should remove it right now. That's clearly an order, not a name. Maybe we could add an invisible note in the attack names page about this (y'know, that notes that don't appear in the page, but appear when you are editing it). LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:40, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * I personally disagree. An order is something very irrelevant in my opinion. And many characters give orders in many situations, so documenting all would be a big waste of time. I myself can just Duel my friend and when attacking his monster, say "Destroy!". Again, in my opinion, that's something much irrelevant. Attack names at least are original and unique. Orders are just what the card does, and are very general terms that can be used for any card. LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:48, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, once we explain it clearly, they will understand. For example, you understood after I explained you just once, didn't you? We just have to explain it clearly and give examples. ;) And if one editor or another still doesn't understand and add an order, we can just undo it, and contact him/her explaining. LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:56, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Then, you'll do it? If not I think I can do. I just dunno how to add the invisible notes. :P LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:15, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Card Gallery: Madolche Mew-feuille
Do you know what exactly caused this and how can we fix this? Blackwings0605 (talk) 15:30, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Deltaneos has answered there, so I'll assume you don't need my input now. ;) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:22, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

CardTable 2 screw up the English Name
(Respond here, if you comment) Ok, now look what MediaWiki had done to the change. It can no longer simple called it "Controller Back-Fired", it is instead called "User:FredCat100/Create Cards/Memoir's Secret Cards/Controller Back-Fired". Holy hell, this is why I refused MediaWiki's asshole stuffs into this site in first place! But no, they continued and continued to shoving their ridiculous toys into this site! I don't care if you think they will fixing it - THEY NEVER EVER FIXING THE SHIT STUFFS! Look at Cards images, right side stretched - not fixed! Each time I tried to typing in the symbol, like "" or comma/quotation while inside the link list (Like this Luna (ZEXAL), if it was droplist, it refused to let me put the "" in until I deleted the [[ part, fuck it.) I am still called them waste of the time and waste of the equipments. They are downgrade rather than upgrade, fuck!

So now, rant over, would you be happy to help me get them to just "Card Name here" instead of "Link URL here". If there are no way, then it's time for them (MediaWiki and their toys) to leaving this site. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:46, July 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, Wikia/MediaWiki had nothing to do with it in this case; you just used the wrong parameter. I've fixed it for you. ;) 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:50, July 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh well, guess I went over the head. But still, other details I gave out are true still. No "" nor quotation to get the full list in? That's just stupid move they did. Why they made the image stretching to the right (our right, not their right) and why the site width ain't CHANGING at all? It's just stuck to same size no matter how bigger the screen would be. That's very clumsy size anywhere. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:53, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Problem with the automatic list
So, for some reason, in Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL - Volume 002's chapter listing, Rank 10 just happened to vanish. :| It was there a while ago though... LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:14, July 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's there for me. Are you still not seeing it? 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:55, July 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, I can see it now. :| Never mind then. Maybe it was a problem with my connection. LegenaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:24, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

Anytime
Glad to help out! ^_^ I'll see about putting together a list of cards/sets missing from the database later. My edits are going to be a bit on and off over the next couple of months though. I'm finishing my degree this month and moving the next. Look234 (talk • contribs) 12:13, July 31, 2012 (UTC)