User talk:Deltaneos

Leadership
So, I'd like to ask - who is the main bureaucrat here? E n e r g y X ∞ 22:16, August 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * There are two bureaucrats. You can see a list at Special:ListUsers/bureaucrat. Nobody is the leader per se. Decisions are ideally based on communal agreements, not what one person wants. TwoTailedFox is however the founder, if that's what you're wondering. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:25, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Package editions
From what I have found and have on hand, LOB, MRD, MRL/SRL, and PSV are the only main series packs that have versions without any language box, i.e. no For U.S. & Canada English Edition or English Edition. Those four sets have four have six different packs in all:
 * Two no language box, 1st Edition and Unlimited, SET-###
 * Two For Europe English Edition, 1st Edition and Unlimited, SET-E###
 * One For U.S. & Canada English Edition, Unlimited Edition, SET-###
 * One English Edition, Unlimited Edition, SET-EN###

Its a little strange for MRL since it changed to SRL but it follows the same pattern just the last two are SRL and SRL-EN respectively. As for uploading the different editions of the packs I'm fine with that it is not necessarily needed but we could do it. ^_^ We would really have to dig for some of the early ones though.

A strange side note, I just bought a couple of special edition sets and the third pack in each was strange. The Tactical Evolution: Special Edition's Invasion of Chaos pack was labeled English Edition and came with IOC-EN cards like I expected but the Tactical Evolution: Special Edition's Labyrinth of Nightmare pack was labeled English Edition as well but came with LON-E cards. And Gladiator's Assault: Special Edition's Dark Crisis pack again was labeled English Edition but the cards were just DCR. So, yeah after those first four sets it gets stranger. Look234 (talk • contribs) 12:50, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

BAM Stuff
In Yu-Gi-Oh! BAM, I've managed to directly extract a whole lot of sprites which I might upload later. Anyways, the point of this is actually, I've noticed that we have pages for music, so should we make pages for things like these? /where?
 * ygo_story_map_1.mp3
 * ygo_story_map_2.mp3
 * ygo_story_map_3.mp3

You can hotlink to them apparently, since the files in the game are all downloaded separately as you need to use them as you play the game. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 15:03, August 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Are there more than just those three? I'd say "Story Map 1", "Story Map 2" and "Story Map 3" would be okay pagenames for them. If hotlinking's okay, which it seems to be, we can link to those mp3s from their articles. There is an extension, FlashMP3Whitelist, that we could ask to have set up that would allow us to directly embed those files with  tags, but I'm not so sure if we can legally do that. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:21, August 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Those should be all the main background ones. There are also sound effects, like: ygo_sfx_8_emergency.mp3
 * But I don't really think they're worth noting. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 15:33, August 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay. It's hardly worth setting up an extension just to play three files. I guess we can just link to them in that case. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:38, August 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Seems like I missed 5 others. Found them after I cleared my cache, it seems like the thing I'm using doesn't catch them if they are loaded from the cache instead of re-downloaded.
 * So there are 8 now. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:36, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Lightray Madoor's details
Hey, I recalled that you put that kind of "Notice" in "Prophecy Destroyer" and copied that into "Lightray Madoor" so that other users would not have to put it in some issues, similar to the logical of "Prophecy Destroyer" existence. You're welcome to touch it up. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:13, August 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * It looks good. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:18, August 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Great to know. At least your action serves a purpose. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:09, August 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, i add that kind of notice on this page too since there was 3 edits without any source.-- Falling Stars and Laggia Will rebirth (Talk)  10:38, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Rule Vandal

 * Hi there Delta. Can you please block this user or protect this page. This loser seems bent on vandalising it over and over.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 21:28, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Navigation
What's exactly the difference between and  ? I used to use the latter one for the manga cards, but some editors replaced some of them with the other one, so I'm totally lost. :| LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:21, August 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * There is no difference whatsoever as far as I know. Some editors prefer the former, some the latter, but they both have the same result. In the same vein, cards that are in video games, but not in the real game use or  . Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:46, August 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * The intention is that Navigation2 and Navigation3 are shorthand for Navigation with common but non-standard settings; they're meant to be substituted according to Navigation's documentation.
 * At some point, I'm going to have to sit down and make Navigation work in these cases without setting parameters (by getting the necessary info via SMW). It's been on my to-do list for a long time, actually. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:44, August 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Right, it shorthand, but that doesn't mean its less or more right than using the full version I myself prefer to not use the shorthand (for no good reason, mind you). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:19, August 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, there is a good reason not to use the shorthands: they don't support the other parameters that the main template does. While this makes absolutely no difference for most cards, consistency is probably better in this case. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 20:59, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Block request Round 2
Please can you block this user? He is vandalising faster than I can revert the edits. It would be helpful if you could do a mass revert as well if that's possible. Thanks. -- Super Sponge!!   19:58, August 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Also be sure to check Admin noticeboard, so Delta ain't have to do all the block job. He is not only Admin around here. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:29, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

SD:Roar of the Sea Emperor
Known as Structure Deck: Realm of the Sea Emperor. Released 10/20/12 " The Realm of the Sea Emperor Structure Deck launches an ocean themed Deck for Duelists. As with all Structure Decks, Realm of the Sea Emperor is designed to give Duelists a jumping off point to build a competitive Deck. This Structure Deck will introduce 5 brand new cards including an extremely powerful Spell Card that all deep-sea Duelists will want to have in their Deck. Duelists can find additional Sea Serpents in Abyss Rising. This Structure Deck Contains: 37 Common Cards, 1 Ultra Rare Card, 2 Super Rare Cards, 1 Rulebook, 1 Game Mat, 1 Dueling Guide" per this Ricky Spanish (talk • contribs) 07:26, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

About theworld championship page
Vishagan About theworld championship page: the players deck types reference are the live coverage videos do they count as valid cites? or Jarel winston (theplayers themselves) —This unsigned comment was made by Vishagan (talk • contribs) 17:20, 11 August 2012‎ (UTC)


 * I guess they do. But since there's no way of rewatching those videos (or can you?), it's nice to also have some solid references which can be checked afterwards.
 * I would say the players are also valid sources. Although we'd need proof that they actually said whatever they're being quoted as saying. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:33, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Template:Flag versus Template:FlagLang
Any idea what the difference between these is supposed to be? Would there be any problem with moving the latter over the former if there is none? 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:48, August 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think originally, flag took the region of the flag as input, while FlagLang took a language and outputted the associated flag. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:52, August 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Aah. Well, IMO, there are too many problems with using language as input for a flag template, so I'm fine with losing that distinction. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:05, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Priority
Does it just an Ignition Priority being gone or entire set of "Priority" (such as Ignition, Trigger, etc.) are gone? If former is true, then GameFAQs members must budging their head into the wrong wall. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:43, August 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * While it's not called priority anymore, you are correct, effectively just ignition effect priority is gone. When you Summon a monster you can activate an effect triggered by the Summon or a Quick Effect before the opponent can play something like "Bottomless Trap Hole". e.g. you can use the first effect of "Black Rose Dragon"or the effect of "Strike Ninja", but not the second effect of "Black Rose Dragon". You can show them Konami's page for proof. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:56, August 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Interesting, that very same link Shamack used... only Kevin's link is full of the lies. Last time he blahed about the game mechanic, he got foot'd down by Konami as they declared that Xyz Material ain't exist on the field (which Kevin said they do). I decided to not trust Kevin's stuff, ever if he's a honestly person. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:08, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

World Championship 2012 page
Thank you were making the world championship 2012 page betterand better everyday final we can make world championship pages to the standard they deserve —This unsigned comment was made by Vishagan (talk • contribs) 17:26, August 12, 2012‎ (UTC)


 * Thanks. You've been a great help too. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:29, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Greetings
Hello Delta. I hope everything is going well with you. I just wanted to pop by to say hi. If you ever wish to contact me on Dueling Network, my username is VavvMatsumoto. Once again, take care.
 *  DED  (Leaving Me Messages Are Often Left Here)  04:18, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Huge Signature Issues
As this user seemed unhappily with my byte size of signature, I knew you told me this once before (Second Signature ain't helps) that put signature2 in original link would not helping. So to reduce it into small amount of byte, do you think I should create a link then list all stuffs that was sitting in my current Signature then put them up? -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:36, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to waste your time...
Hey Delta, there's a little problem in chat right now. A user named M.U.S. is pretty much telling everyone tell to get out and is just saying some pretty inappropriate stuff right now. It's not a big of a deal, but if you can handle it then you have my thanks. (KonaChanFanBoy 17:00, August 16, 2012 (UTC))

Chatban
Why did I get banned? User talk:Collaborate and listen —Preceding undated comment added 16:35, August 21, 2012‎ (UTC)


 * Because you are an alternate account of Cd5464. -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:38, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

You ban me because of an assumption? An inaccurate assumption at that. My account name is collaborate_and_listen. I don't have alternates at this time. This is my current account. User:Collaborate and listen


 * The fact that Delta is amazing in busting other users just simply the way they talk. Delta can also check your IP and compare it to Cd5464's, something he hates to do. So don't try to say you aren't. If Delta says you are, then you are. -- E. G.G.  (My Contributions) 16:55, August 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Agreed, Nexus - IP address never changed unless they are hacker, and I don't think Cd5464 had that skill yet. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:58, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

I was wondering about that once. I decided to look up my ip location. There are two other signals with the same address. The signals all overlap each other though. The distance isn't that far away from the other. It is possible that this cd is one of the other signals. It would be understandable if you keep the ban intact, for I cannot prove I am not this cd. User talk:Collaborate and listen

Use of Personal Pictures?
Is it fine for me to use a personal picture for my user page/a forum page if I upload the picture to another site like Photobucket? Of course the picture would be appropriate, you don't have to worry about that. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  17:19, August 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * As long as it doesn't violate any copyrights. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:28, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

A vandal
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.123.174.7 Pierogi 17:19, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Episode Listings
Just wanted to know: How can I edit the Episode Listings? Mad Rest 13:34, August 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * They get their information from the episode pages. You need to edit the episode pages for the listings to change. If the changes aren't immediate, you can add ?action=purge to the end of the url to clear the cache on the page. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:38, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

request move
Duelist Pack 10: Yusei 3 to Duelist Pack: Yusei 3 and Duelist Pack 9: Yusei 2 to Duelist Pack: Yusei 2. thanks you very much. -Lpoi (talk • contribs) 14:29, August 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Done. And I see you've done a lot of page move work. Do you want to put your name forward on Project:Requests for mover? It could make life easier for yourself. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:44, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * thanks for helping -Lpoi (talk • contribs) 17:34, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

Structure Deck: Realm of the Sea Emperor to Structure Deck: Roar of the Sea Emperor so that i can create the article for the tcg. thanks. -Lpoi (talk • contribs) 15:16, September 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * I got it. It's moved, go ahead and make the TCG article. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:24, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for helping too. -Lpoi (talk • contribs) 15:28, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Here. Thanks for helping as always. -Lpoi (talk • contribs) 14:58, September 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! -Lpoi (talk • contribs) 16:18, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

Character infobox
Something appears to have changed and its affecting Infobox/Yu-Gi-Oh!/Character. Usually, the "corresponding card" is linked by default. It now has to be done manually, which affects quite a lot of Duel Spirit pages. Was there a Wikia update that changed something? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:21, August 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Since the last update, Negref got disabled. That's a custom extension that lets us put references next to SMW stuff without it breaking. i.e. so we get  rather than  . Staff are aware that Negref is disabled, but haven't switched it back on, so I guess it's incompatible now. I've rewrote some templates so that we can mix SMW and references without needing Negref, but I could only get it to work such that if the input is linked, the output is linked and if the input is unlinked, the output is unlinked.
 * Corresponding card doesn't look like it's ever going to need references, so if you want I could rewrite that particular part of the template to accept unlinked content and link it, but not allow for references. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:28, August 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * That would be great. Either that or Falzar could do one of his crazy bot runs to link everything. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:07, August 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the linked input might be the better option. If there's ever something like Jinzo 7 (character),  could be used, which would be much more convenient than trying to find some other way of including both the card name and page name. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:36, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

Monster Reincarnation Gallery Error

 * Due to this fool's editing spree, the card gallery link on the Monster Reincarnation page is now glitched. This is what it shows for me, is it the same for you, and do you know how to fix it? Thanks.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 20:17, August 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Now we know that these galleries problems aren't a wikia problem. Is someone that is causing this type of problem. This page has the same problem and it isn't the only page. -- E. G.G.  (My Contributions) 20:26, August 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oddly, it showed blue when I viewed it. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:28, August 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think I'm getting the same as FredCat. The link works fine for me. I've seen it broken in the examples NexusShiker linked to though. Is the "Monster Reincarnation" still broken for you, YamiWheeler? -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:30, August 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, seems to be fixed now. I guess it was a momentary hiccup, or maybe Master D's edit of the page refreshed it. Thanks anyway.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 20:31, August 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yea, Sénior M brought a miracle to it. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:32, August 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Like Golden Key said, "Eventually the problem just resolved itself". It seems it is a matter of time that the link will appear blue to me. -- E. G.G.  (My Contributions) 20:35, August 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * I see what happened now. DCAUBatman created "Card Gallery:Monster Rebirth" before he turned the page "Monster Rebirth" into a card article. So when "Card Gallery:Monster Rebirth" was created it had Card Gallery page for: Monster Rebirth. Since "Monster Rebirth" redirected to "Monster Reincarnation" at the time, that was the same as saying Card Gallery page for: Monster Reincarnation, so "Monster Reincarnation" had two gallery pages and its card table was picking up on both of them. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:43, August 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * I see. Well, at least now we know which actions to avoid to avoid replicating the same problem.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 20:45, August 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh right, now I remember something like this happening on the "Heraldic Beast" page after it was first created. So why did this issue resolve itself quickly when "Heroic Retribution Sword" still has its issue? --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 20:54, August 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Because the causation of the problems is different. They both happened because there were two galleries whose "Card Gallery page for" was pointing to the same card.
 * In this case Card Gallery:Monster Rebirth was associated with "Monster Rebirth and Card Gallery:Monster Reincarnation was associated with "Monster Reincarnation", but since "Monster Rebirth" redirected to "Monster Reincarnation", they were the same thing. Since "Monster Rebirth" no longer redirects to "Monster Reincarnation", their "Card Gallery page for" properties no longer point to the same page.
 * The "Heroic Retribution Sword" problem is a result of an SMW glitch where older versions of pages are stored separately semantically and as a result appear more than once in queries. In this case, it's a version from before the page got renamed, so changing Heroic Revenge Sword to not redirect to "Heroic Retribution Sword" might fix the link. If it was a version after the rename, changing the redirect wouldn't work. But either way, it won't fix the fact that "Card Gallery:Heroic Revenge Sword" still has semantic data. That will be fixed during the "database repair" that was mentioned before. The repair got restarted I think just over two weeks ago and is currently at 68.2986%.
 * -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:55, August 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * This issue has also happened on a few archseries lists. I could fix the templates to prevent it from happening, but would really rather not since the obviously-screwy links serve as a tip-off that something's wrong. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:16, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

User:Ron.and.Roll
This user is back yet again, making the same pages he was repeatedly told to stop making. Clearly the block didn't help.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 22:41, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Ron.and.Roll
Oh dear, he's back and seemed to reseting his memory back to before he believed that "Retro Format" stuffs wouldn't be legal. Can you please taming him down? I can't go any further without blow my head off, as under command of YamiWheeler. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:11, August 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * He's now forged evidence to try to make us add the information onto the Wiki. (Lol @ legal action and lol @ someone who has nothing at all to do with Yu-Gi-Oh! personally e-mailing him about a trivial issue like this.) This guy obviously thinks we're as big an idiot as he is. Can we please get him blocked? He ignores warnings, causes edit wars and is clearly not going to listen to reason.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 23:14, August 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * That link is dead right now, Joey... it's just... gone. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:22, August 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's okay. I saw it before it was taken down. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:28, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

Need your help again
Sorry Delta. I hate coming to you to report chat problems, but I need you to moniter the chat for a bit. Appearantly some people are harassing Mike or something and the result is getting pretty nasty. (KonaChanFanBoy 14:14, August 28, 2012 (UTC))


 * Dealt with. -- Bobbles Talk 14:43, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

Chat Glitch
Hi Delta. I am slightly concerned about a Chat glitch:. First of all, my messages were split up. Secondly, I didn't type "great for me". Now, I do hope my account hasn't been hacked. However, that happened to me a few minutes before this point (sorry didn't screencap it) like this:

Spongebob456: Hi Barcibal Hi barc

I didn't type "Hi barc". But when I refreshed, I found that "Hi barc" comment was made by User:Dark Lion. So, his comment got 'mish-mashed' with mine. It appeared like this:

Dark Lion: Hi barc Spongebob456: Hi Barcibal.

Sorry for bringing this to your attention. I just hope it isn't my account being hacked. I hope I explained the situation well enough. Thanks. -- Bobbles Talk 21:00, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you.


 * This glitch sounds familiar. I think I might have seen something like a long time ago. Has it been happening much today? -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:03, August 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I haven't been on much today. Someone did point out that Wednesday is update night for Wikia. Maybe the update brought a glitch. -- Bobbles Talk 21:05, August 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's reason why I don't attending to Chatroom at all. Knew that would happening. No disrespect, Delta. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:14, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

1012 collection tin vandal
Hi Delta. I'm sorry to bother you like this but there is a wiki contributor who keeps vandalising the 2012 collection tin page. Some examples you can see from the recent activity are replacing all the unknown cards from wave two with 'Black Luster soldier-envoy of the beginning' and the 'Glactic Overlord' pack with 'sex pack'. I have seen Fredcat give a warning to them while fixing the page but they don't seem to be listening. I hope you can fix this. Thank you. User:Kagerō Paladin 04:52, 30, August (UTC)

I am total with this user, give the article at least 1-2 day protection. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  15:53, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Re:"Make it faster!"
I wanted the deletion of the "File:EvilToken-VG-WC11-JP.png" to be faster. IgorThunderMaster (talk • contribs) 17:09, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Insult
Thank you for your explain, but please - no comment on my Talk Page: It's current closed. Sénior D is just "butthurt" so I usually disagreed to him 100% of the times. In case if you're aware of this; I have a little control over my instinct so it's very extreme difficult for me to keep from turn on the full-power rocket and blast all over the talk page, which put myself in result of 4 months ban. Stingy, I know... What had I put a much of effort was better than that. And this will be my last comment here - Thank you and do your best working to keep this site run. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:55, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

Return of the Duelist: Special Edition
Too many vandals harass the article. Can you lock it? E n e r g y X ∞ 20:48, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

ZEXAL's new title and plot
This page sustains new title for the series as for its upcoming plot. DracoX (talk • contribs) 17:46, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

5D's arcs
I'm nearly positive there was an official source somewhere that said "the arcs are Fortune Cup, Dark Signers, WRGP and Ark Cradle" (meaning that each opening/ending theme combo is not an arc, since the WRGP has two of them). I thought it was the tenth anniversary book, but I've been informed that doesn't cover the whole series. Then I thought it might have been a Twitter post by Ono, but it doesn't appear to to be. Do you know what I'm talking about or I have imagined it? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 14:18, September 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, the 10th Anniversary Book is the only source I'm aware of, which yeah doesn't cover the whole series. Ono seems to only mention the Ark Cradle twice in his tweets and neither of them mention story arcs. -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:08, September 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Wonderful. Ok then, then we should probably re-split 5D's Decklists for the WRGP into two arcs then. Yay. I don't know where I pulled that from. I was almost positive. Well, thanks. I'll probably do the same for ZEXAL. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:17, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Oldinfoboxstyle.css
Hey Delta, I'm not sure if you are working on updating some bits but I think when you moved this MediaWiki:Oldinfoboxstyle.css it broke quite a few things, card tables, info boxes, etc.. Just giving you a heads up. ^_^ Look234 (talk • contribs) 18:09, September 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I think this broken piece of code at the end was stopping other CSS pages from being applied. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:28, September 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Those brackets man, they'll get you. Look234 (talk • contribs) 18:47, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Infobox
Hmm, your edit was identical to my final attempt. I reverted mine due to a few infobox parameters appearing to merge. I suppose it was a cache issue, as after your edit I cleared my cache and it was fine. Well, thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:23, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Concering blogs
Some of the users in chat advised to ask you about the matter. Can I ask why is the blog feature disabled? E n e r g y X ∞ 15:23, September 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * When blogs were initially announced, we didn't have them set up, because the active editors here didn't want them and I don't think anyone inquired about having them switched on since then. The main reason against having them set up was we didn't want this site to become a blogging site, which seemed counterproductive to the encyclopedic part. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:43, September 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, and something else - on the navbox, section Community, there is a button top_users. However, it does not lead to anywhere. That is all I should say. E n e r g y X  ∞ 18:32, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Pato M
I've seriously had enough of this little troll. Why is he still allowed on the Wiki? He has no regard for the rules or procedure and thinks he's allowed to do whatever he wants. His edits are all usually crap that have no substance at all and he will constantly edit war just to push his edits through, regardless of how right or wrong they are. He's been warned in the past, and I've had it with his rude behaviour towards myself and what I consider vandalizing my article after repeatedly being told not to. He does nothing but enrage the legitimate users of this Wiki. Consider this a formal complaint. Please do something about him.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 18:37, September 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * I find it hilarious and bewildering that he actually has the audacity to even make a complaint of me after threatening me with physical violence on my talk page minutes earlier. Honestly, Delta, this is proof of what a vile person he is. Clearly if nothing else, threats are definitely crossing the boundary of unacceptable behaviour.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 21:18, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

The current situation
I'll pretend like i didn't read the comment about me, regarding me, and yami calling me Troll, calling my edits "Crap without substance", and, again, honestly funny, saying that I'm rude, when you can check, every single thing he said to me.

Now, to the subject I wanted to talk about. I will consider every single thing this person told me as a form of harrasment, as I believe his insults have gone way too far, and, I don't know how the penalty board works in this wikia, but I want him to be given the warning/ban he deserves. After that i resolved, we can talk about the edits in the front page, that, as we speak, remain as the All mighty, all knowing, creator of the universe made them, cause it's his will, and that's all it matters. --Yes, im Pato (talk • contribs) 20:34, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Timeline (manga)
I noticed in the article, it says that the events of all manga series, DM, GX, 5D's and ZEXAL are (actually, will) be listed. I don't know if it was you who added it, but I'm not sure if ZEXAL should be included. Different from the other series, which clearly share a same timeline in a same universe, ZEXAL was never shown to do the same. It's universe seems to be pretty different, and it doesn't make much sense to place it either before or after 5D's, as there are no Synchros, D-Wheels or Momentum on it. Also, despite looking rather futuristic, the exact era when it takes place is never said, neither a clue of it, so I think we should just include the 3 first series on the article, which we also know when exactly take place. What do you think? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:39, September 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I have limited knowledge of ZEXAL, but as far as I know there hasn't been anything to prove or disprove it takes place in the same universe. The absence of Synchro Summons and Momentum, which powers D-Wheels, could have been to prevent Z-one's future from occurring. According to V Jump, ZEXAL takes place in "the near future". The late or possibly even mid-21st century (20XX) is after the 5D's main events and may be considered the near future.
 * It's unlikely I'll be adding any ZEXAL info to that page myself. There's just too much work to do for the series I have seen/read, I'm probably never going to have time to follow up on ZEXAL. If any of the ZEXAL editors want to create a timeline, I guess I won't object to how they want to do it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:04, September 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Except the fact that Shark got his own "D-Wheeler", ZEXAL may be in the other place, where Yusei and his gangtas have being doing their works. As of Yusei being famous, that was not yet to arriving to the place where Yuma is living in. It's like comparing North America to China... North America is all around with culture, religious, etc. while China reminded strict with their. ZEXAL is North America while 5D's China (notice on divide in Arc 1, for explanation). Thought I would just give some suggests. If not, then just... :| -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:08, September 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * @Deltaneos - I see. So, ZEXAL would be added after 5D's (which takes place at 20XX)? Then, we'd add what year to it? We don't know, it may happen right after 5D's, still on 20XX, or even on 3XXX.
 * I'm the current... "manga dude"(?) here. I'm the one who adds everything 'bout the on going manga series (5D's, ZEXAL and D Team ZEXAL), as before I started doing so, the articles about the manga were really incomplete and disorganized (ZEXAL for example had only articles for the chapters up to 7, while it was already on Rank 13 or 14) and also I'm currently reading GX, so I'm reviewing everything and adding what is missing/fixing what needs fixing. I'm also planning to do the same with R if I have time, but if I do, it'll take a while to happen (I don't know if it actually needs reviewing either, but taking a look doesn't hurt, as GX really did need). Although I barely have enough time to add the summaries for the chapters and the articles for the cards, so I don't think I'll be able to add the whole timeline of the manga series there. But actually, anyone could do it based on the chapters' articles.


 * @Fred - But... how did Domino City become Heartland then? Also, the D-Wheels used the energy of the momentum to work, so Shark's vehicle can't be one, instead is just a futuristic motorcycle, and the staff of the anime was lazy to make a different sound for a motorcycle, so they took the one from D-Wheels. BUT, anyway, as nothing was ever proven, neither a single clue was given, just discussing it would worth nothing but speculation, so I guess we'll just have to list it as indefinite, which it is. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 01:21, September 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Right, Shark's motorcycle isn't a D-Wheel as far as we know.
 * R is done as far as Featured Duels and Featured cards go (around half the chapters didn't have pages a while back). I do intend to eventually write summaries for them as I'd like to read it again. GX really did need fixing, I didn't know nearly as much about formatting when I expanded most of those articles initially. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:43, September 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, if you're gonna review R yourself then, I feel more relieved.
 * By the way, about GX, chapter 43 don't have a summary. I added a really small'n'brief summary temporary, but if anyone could complete it, it'd be good. However, you can leave the rest to me (Japanese tittles + Ruby, Duels and cards). I see Deltaneos is completing everything 'bout DM as well, it's good to see the manga series getting all alright. ^^ As I said before, when I just started editing, looking the articles for the manga series was even shameful, so it's great to see them being improved like that. ^^ LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 02:00, September 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I only said that Shark got the one that look like D-Wheel, but not technology a duel style. In the fact, it is similar to Bruno's D-Wheel, only smaller in the length, LegendaryAsari. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:17, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

Avatar
Do you think my avatar is hot?LoraLove (talk • contribs) 01:15, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Tag Force Duel
Hey Delta, I just had a question about a page you edited. When you edited http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tag_Force you added Tag Force Duel. I just wanted to know if you were going to add a page or if you just meant Tag Team Duel. Thanks for your time. Evolution  Is The   Key  17:49 September 16, 2012


 * In the Japanese Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's anime, when Yusei and Crow team Dueled the two Securities in episode 31, one of the characters said that they would Duel using the "Tag Force" rules. I assumed it was the same set of team Duel rules used in the Tag Force video games, which seemed worthy enough to have an article. I don't know much about those rules, so I probably won't be writing one myself. -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:00, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I was just wondering wether it was a typo or not.   Evolution   Is The   Key  18:26 September 16, 2012 (UTC)

If you are making a page for these tag force rules I could give you a hand. I have 3 tag force games up to tag force 5 so if you need any help with it. Feel free to ask me and I will try and help User:Kagerō Paladin 05:31, September 16 (UTC)

Hey Delta, I'm so sorry for my all fault. Please read my this message.
Actually I need a person to translating japanese writing to english. I don't need to become member of NAC. Ark can add me of his MSN to translate it. Look, I'm really really really so sorry for my all fault. As he said, "I don't trust you". But if he don't trust me, then he can add me of his MSN. I swear for god I don't need become member of NAC. But Deltaneos, please can you talk to with Ark to add me of his MSN? İf you do it, I will be VERY VER VERY happy. At least talk to him as sincerely and thanks. --Clock God (talk • contribs) 16:37, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry. It's clear from the messages on his talk page that he is not interested in helping you with translations. A good word from me is not going to make a difference. Please just give him a break. -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:49, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes you're right. But I'm so glad to see Ark here. This is unexpected for me. Also, please understand my feelings, and please try to talking with Ark to add me of his MSN. Ark is knowledge human, and I like it, also I need to know about V-Jump news etc, latest anime previews like episode 74 of Zexal and etc. So, I have only one optinion to know these, it's benefit access of NAC. But as Ark said in forum rules is here: How to not get access to this forum
 * Be Alper. Or be a Bot selling bad shoes and cheap pr0n.
 * Source: http://neoarkcradle.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=1288
 * And this is too bad for me, this is too sad for me, this is my ending, this is my the worst thing and this is my nightmare, because he put even forum rules about myself. So I can't benefit access of NAC, but at least talk to with Ark to adding me of his MSN. Also Deltaneos, he was my friend in 1 year ago. Yes he was adding in my MSN, but he blocked me because I insist him on becoming of Janime forum. NAC was open in 10 september 2011. Sorry for my bad english --Clock God (talk • contribs) 16:59, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't know what happened between you two, so there's nothing I can say to convince him that he shouldn't have MSN blocked you. Like your NAC ban, this is also irrelevant to this site, so please don't be bothering users with it here. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:12, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's simple: He's a stalker who will do anything to bother me. He's a Ban Evader on Janime, Neo Ark Cradle, Dueling Network, and Pojo. He constantly posts fake information about Video Games. And he wants to make me his personal translation slave and/or hack my computer to BECOME me. --NeoArkadia (talk • contribs) 17:16, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Alper
Deltaneos, I guess we all know we had enough of Alper. Seriously, he deserves a tasty kick. He didn't stop spamming and bothering everyone to the limits asking to enter NAC again. He isn't here to edit, he's here to piss us off just like he did at Janime and Neo Ark Cradle. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:10, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Don't do it, I'm just poor and pathetic, just I want to be taken seriously like Ark but I haven't. Anyway, I don't need to become member of NAC, if he would add me of his MSN or yahoo. --Clock God (talk • contribs) 17:13, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Please stop stalking Ark. You keep telling him to try understanding your feelings, but can you understand his? You just don't leave him alone, and keep bothering him. He has enough stuff to worry about, and is a great translator, he doesn't deserve an annoying nuisance like you. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:18, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * like I said here, here and here, your problems with him are irrelevant to this site. You have to stop bothering users here with them. You've been banned from chat twice for this. If you continue you'll be banned from editing. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:20, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Time to agreement to solution our problem!
Okay I will not tryed to become member of NAC, and I won't bothering any person everywhere, but Ark should add me of his MSN for friendship and etc. I have no friend in real life. So Ark can be friend in MSN or something, so please talk to with him and thanks Delta --Clock God (talk • contribs) 17:19, September 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * But I don't want to be your friend. --NeoArkadia (talk • contribs) 17:20, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alper, did you read what I told you on the previous section, right above? Can't you see you are just annoying Ark? How can you force him to be your friend? All you did was to piss him off, and by doing that, you pissed everyone else off too! Dammit, go find a Barbie Forum and annoy them!! LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:25, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you don't want to be my friend god knows it. But, if you will add me of your MSN you can have condition me. For exaple: You should talk to me 10 minutes for per day or week. But even if I talk to you 10 minutes for per week, this is really award for me. At least add me, here is my MSN adress: alistering57@hotmail.com I sent you request already, but at least thiking Ark. And accept me, look I told you I will talk to you for get new info about zexal latest anime previews and some V-Jump news like booster pack. --Clock God (talk • contribs) 17:29, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Manga Duels
Noticed you are editing pages for manga duels. Do you need any help? If so, I have most of the mangas with me, so I could help on any needed problems (thought it may take a while to find the right manga) Evolution   Is The   Key  16:46 September 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the offer. I can't think of anything specific I need help with right now. But I'll let you know if I think of anything. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:14, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

More vandals
Delta. There is a few users who are vandalising various pages about 'turtle bird being god'. Brook is working hard to fix the pages but they are fast vandals so can you help stop them. Thanks. Kagerō Paladin 06:25, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

Errors on this Site
Whenever I edit a page, it gives an error saying this:
 * Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.

Also, even though people post ruling questions, those forums don't show up on the Forum: Ruling Queries, but only in the recent edits. Mad Rest 21:33, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * For the record, I get the same error messages as well. But if it's just editing, it still goes through half the time. Deleting pages/files does not work, however.
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 23:16, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * If they get and I get... So more users get as well... Is it because I'm using Google Chrome? or Is something about the wiki update or something else. -- E. G.G.  (My Contributions) 23:18, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * It should be a problem with wikia, I'm using firefox (should have mentioned it in my first post). -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 23:30, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks to be only in this wiki. I just edited outside this wiki and it didn't gave me an error. No one has a clue of what might be causing this? -- E. G.G.  (My Contributions) 23:34, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * In my guess; it's code misplaced, at least let Admin (Delta) informed the MediaWiki to get it fixing. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:36, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yea, I also having this issue and yet I am using Chrome Site - so it's Wikia issues. All I have to posting the comment then return to recent change, as the comment have automatic post by time I have to revert. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi! This was an error within the Semantic MediaWiki extension, which is installed on this wiki. The fix has been pushed live and you should see no further problems. -- Sactage   (talk)  00:04, September 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Cool, thanks for letting us know. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:22, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

OTK appearance again
Seemed like that user didn't paying any attention to your comments and just reposted that article. Should wrapping your fingers around him and locked him up? -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:24, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/189.248.30.94
Please ban this guy. He made so much vandal attacks on the page I barely restored it. E n e r g y X ∞ 21:45, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Potential image policy change
Hello, there is currently a discussion about changing our image policy at Forum:Potential image policy change. Because such changes are accompanied by a huge amount of work (renaming thousands of files, and updating thousands of pages), we want to make as few of them as possible. Therefore, your input is requested on the proposed change, as well as any comments on other possible changes you have in mind. If you have any questions about the image policy, now is also a good time to ask. Thanks! Delivered by FZ - Bot. You are receiving this bot-delivered message because you are a mover, an active administrator, or recently moved/uploaded a large number of files affected by this discussion. To opt out of potential future bot-delivered messages, please let Falzar FZ know. 07:15, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Since you seem to be the only one online currently and have received the above message.
 * Did you get the orange "you have a new message bar" before I posted now (via account, not bot)?
 * I didn't get it when I tested it on my own talk page, but maybe the bar works by IPs not accounts, so I'm just checking. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:47, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * No. Bot edits don't trigger that notice. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:50, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Interesting, I thought it worked on those welcome bots so I assumed it works like this too.
 * Guess I'll have to manually edit those messages some time later. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:56, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Like Delta said, Your bot is treated as you, since after all, it's your own power. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:06, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think I worked it out. I used the default settings, which apparently had it marked as a minor edit. Minor bot edits don't trigger it. If it is true, it'll work this time. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:11, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, what I meant was if you tried to get your bot respond to you in your own talk page, it won't trigger the message notice at all. It's like Bot is you. I have got the message from your Bot and it worked, which is a virtue. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:29, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * In case you're still wondering, Falzar, I can confirm from personal experience that no IP checking or anything of the sort is used to decide whether the orange "new messages" bar is triggered. Anon edits always trigger it, but minor edits from registered accounts do not (I don't think the account having a bot flag has anything to do with it, though I could be wrong). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:57, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Ushio's name in the 5D's manga
Oh, sorry, I just have volume 1 of the English version. :P I'm planning to buy volumes 2 and 3 as well, but, till I find 'em, I know someone who probably can tell you about this. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 21:26, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have the second volume... only because of free card. So do you need Ushio's name official in English version? -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:45, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, please. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:37, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * To be honestly, his name was never mentioned - only being exist as entrance player and not seen in the duel, until Volume 3. Sorry. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:51, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well then, if you still need it, I can ask Spec (the guy who I talked about earlier) at Neo Ark Cradle. He has an account there as well. If you don't mind waiting a bit, I'll PM him asking. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:40, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * "Patience is a virtue" ordered by Brune Wayne -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:17, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

I have a new account now. And his name is the same in the English anime, Tetsu Trudge. Spectertvx (talk • contribs) 02:36, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Monobook
I have noticed that you had found the remedy for column glitch in Monobook. Can I use this code on my wiki too (I can credit it to you)? Final Cannon  Dyskusja  08:34, October 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Feel free to use it. You don't need to credit me though. It just pretty much put it back the way it was beforehand. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:22, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

WHat your users have been up to
My name is Mightykiko, I am a user from beyblade wiki and one of your "editors" from here,, entered the chat and started harrassing other users. For example, he pmed me a porn site I didn't even want, he called one of the female users a wh***, and even started picking fights with other members. What has your wiki come to :'(

--Mightykiko (talk • contribs) 07:24, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Please don't call them "our" editor; that editor has never even edited here. If they're giving you trouble on your wiki's chat, I recommend banning them from it. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:25, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I have not interacted much with that user, but he has been banned from chat here and on other wikis multiple times and under different accounts. I don't know which wiki he started with, but I'm sure users here did not train him to behave that way. Like Dinoguy said, if he's unreasonably misbehaving, your moderators can ban him. -- Deltaneos (talk) 10:32, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Agreed with both Admins, either that user's trolling you or he just don't know the whole rulings. Those troll(s) are anywhere and didn't birth in same place at same times. Do Team Magna and Team Aqua do that way in Pokemon? I don't think so. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  11:56, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * That is exactly why I banned him first time around; harassment. I'll keep an eye out for him. -- Bobbles Talk 12:28, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

thx. Mightykiko (talk • contribs) 20:36, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just be sure to banning his IP code, so he couldn't be able to create new account while used same IP code. (If that's possible) -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:09, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Atem's Mother
Though this is not true - it's usually proved that the mother(s) always hold their child after they gave a birth to child(ren). And Atem's father is just right there in front of her (in manga page). I could guess what's in your mind was that she is not really his mother - more of nurse or babysitter, modern words. If not, then what's in your mind? Also, I supported neither your or the one who created that article; only to confirmed the reason why it was there, apparently. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:07, October 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, you are right. I was thinking it is possible she is his mother, but it is also possible she is someone like a nurse or babysitter. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:28, October 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * But both can't be proved, as it's just concluding indirect points. But I can't argue if you chose to delete it or change it into different character (rather than being a mother). -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:44, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Booster box images
Hey Delta, are booster box images such as this of any use? --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 03:16, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes.
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:19, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

VSTF

 * Hey, Delt. I've been editing the Borderlands wiki a bit recently, and I've come across some stuff I find troubling. I don't know what can be done about it but:
 * They have one admin who has such a vendetta against IP vandalism that he blocked an IP address for a full year in response to a single vandalism edit. His block log is here.
 * The only active bureaucrat I can find types everything in lower-case and locked every article relating to the first game in the series with the summary "Borderlands 1 Lockdown", since he thinks everyone should be focusing on the new game rather than refining that craptacular coverage of the first game. I think IPs should have the option to improve anything they want, not just new stuff. It make no goddamn sense to me.
 * I don't know if VSTF can do anything, but if not, maybe you can pass it along to the right people. To me, these seem to be clear violations. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:02, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I'm not much help. We can't use VSTF stuff to go against the local administration. You can try talking to the administrators or asking Wikia staff to talk to them. I don't have any quicker way of passing the message on to staff, unless it is a spam/vandalism problem. There's no global policies on block lengths or when it's appropriate to protect pages. So they'll most likely talk to the admins, recommend that they do things differently and explain why it's beneficial, but I doubt they will force them to change. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:30, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, I'll contact staff. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:29, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Genesis Crisis' Trivia
I just found the article being deleted three times, one of them was you... So I am curious of why you decided to dismissing that article? Is that just because that was obviously point? If so, it sound like it was an insult in the same way as if it was treated by being destroyed by the effect of "Mystical Space Typhoon" in Tip Article - It's such to be there for a show, which is of course obviously... We all knew that "MST" is very obviously part but the appearance is just different from that. I just like to listen to your opinion before do it immediately. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:51, October 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * I really should have made more use of the summary box when deleting trivia back then. When I deleted the page it said that the name might come from "Vampire Genisis" and Dark Crisis. That was 4¾ years ago and I don't remember making that exact deletion.
 * I would say you are right and I disagreed with the "Genesis" part because it was obvious "Genesis" was from "Vampire Genesis" since he's the card needed for and mentioned in its effect. Like how if you know the United States Bill of Rights is for the United States of America, you don't need someone to tell you that the name "United States Bill of Rights" comes from the country, the United States.
 * The part about it being named after Dark Crisis, I'm sure was wrong. "Crisis" isn't an uncommon word. It's not unlikely for two things to use it in their names. Also "Crisis" is part of the card's original Japanese name and there is no Japanese set called Dark Crisis.
 * The two other people who deleted it, deleted it when it said that "Vampire Genesis" appeared in the artwork. I would say that they assumed that was too obvious to need to mention it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:42, October 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh yes, Cheesy and Falzar also mentioned that - "Obviously Stuffs are Obviously" craps. Gotta remember that part. Thank you for point/update that out. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:43, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * I never apply "this should be obvious" to cards appearing in the artwork of other cards though. That's one piece of trivia I always retain even it is brutally obvious. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:47, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, I must have rang you in here. But yea, if it's only trivia listed there - it should be removing until it get some more various trivia to add in. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:53, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Many trivia pages are this simple, it doesn't need to be removed. Fred, how did you know it had been deleted 3 times anyway? I saw that when I recreated the page, but it doesn't show past deletions anymore, does it? --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 16:57, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Fred said that before you recreated the page. But a page's deletion log can be viewed regardless of whether the page currently exists or not. It's just easier to spot it when the page doesn't exist. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:40, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Delta's right - I viewed it and was showing being deleted 3 times, Delta was the first one to delete it 4 and ¾ years ago. And it only happening in Monobook skin, which I happened to using right now (thanks to TwoTailedFox). -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:35, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Template:Switch
Hey delta, i was thinking if we can have a template in the wikia similar to this: http://reborn.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Switch. It would be ideal since some (if not most) characters have some "forms" or different identity. Like Yuma in normal and ZEXAL form, Gilag in masked and unmasked form, Shark Drake in Normal and Chaos Form, maybe Kite in Photon and Normal form. Yknow. SharkTenjo 10:07, October 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Possible, yes. Desirable, I'm not sure. It works on the Reborn and One Piece wikis because they have two concrete divisions; anime and manga for Reborn, pre and post timeskip for One Piece. Here it would be different for each character and some may even have more than two. In that case, I get the feeling people would start using it to introduce all kinds of arbitrary divisions. 'A bit like what one user was doing with the "partner" part of character infoboxes until we just removed that parameter.
 * So yeah, it's possible to set it up, but you might want to talk it over with other editors of character pages to see if they want it. You don't have to feel too put off the idea by my uncertainty. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:53, October 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmmm was thinking if you could tell people about it. Also what i mean on using this template is similar to the Naruto wikia like Tobi/Obito in which they have different identities or forms SharkTenjo 11:34, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Like Bruno. But the current page seems to be working fine without it.
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:43, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Is this talking about the article having a multiple information in same place, just like Paradox's D-Wheeler in his own profile? -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:03, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yea but i think its kinda more information-wise if we do it like that SharkTenjo 08:35, October 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I would support that idea - as it also show their different looks and different information (one from Season 1, from Season 2, and go on.) while keep the biography same. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:07, October 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Especially Judai since his maturity is something that cannot be unseen SharkTenjo 12:23, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Episode 192 Cast
Can you check if is accurate? WinterNightmare (talk • contribs) 06:32, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * The Japanese voice actors all seem to be correct. I don't know of any reliable sources for English voice actors. I think the middle names "Kenneth" and "Sebastian" are fake. I've never heard of them and the IP who added the English cast has been repeatedly blocked for inserting false information. Even if they are genuine, I wouldn't mention them in the cast list and would say "Joey" rather than "Joseph 'Joey'".
 * The more official cast list can be found in the ending credits. I haven't checked it, but it might include some more minor characters. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:11, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, I found a English voice actors source, but I don't know it reliable. I found a season 4 credit list, but not season 5. WinterNightmare (talk • contribs) 00:49, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * That site's FAQ says that they get their information from "official voice actor websites, resumes, DVD credits and other legitimate sources", so I think we should be safe enough trusting them. -- Deltaneos (talk) 10:37, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion: Extension of cards by effect properties/no duplicate results for searches
The category's of cards by effect is EXTREMELY useful, but it only covers the base/end result of the effect, not the requirements, or how the effect is applied.

For example, "Overwhelm!", "Proof of Powerlessness", and "Grave of the Super Ancient Organism" all require face up monster of a high level to activate, but as the actual resulting effect is different for each, they don't share any effect catagories. Adding some for stuff like that, or how the effect is applied (Target, all on your side of the field, all on theirs, or everything?), is another example.

A less important but still useful group of catagoeries would be a group of tags or catagoeries describing the artwork of the card. If you are building a thunder deck, it would be useful to be able to have a list of cards that feature electricity on the artwork, as beyond spell and traps, many non thunder monsters do.

Also, can there be a checkbox that makes it so during a search, you don't get the same card 9 times because each page for it (main, trivia, artwork, rulings, etc) matches the search? 98.24.14.97 (talk) 17:42, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Dinoguy1000 was thinking about improving that section, but was unsure what people wanted. So you think there should be properties added to group cards by their costs, activation requirements and non-gameplay themes? It's all doable. I'm not sure if the last one will kick off, but I think it would be an improvement over the Billy Deck article.
 * There actually are checkbox es to do that, but it's quite tedious. After you search, click "Advanced" in the left column, then untick everything except "(Main)" and click search again. I'd love to set it to only search "(Main)" by default, but that might be against Wikia's terms of use. If you create an account, you're able to set it so that when you search a card name, you'll be taken directly to the card's page (assuming you spell it right), rather than have to look through the search results. Unfortunately having that as the default setting for everyone is definitely against the terms of use. -- Deltaneos (talk) 10:59, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I wasn't even aware that billy deck page existed. I was thinking something more along the tags on -booru sites, but yeah, something like that, though it's missing a few things in existing sections and could use some more. 66.176.140.137 (talk) 20:10, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh! Duelist
So I came across Volumes 4-9 of ''Yu-Gi-Oh! Duelist'' at a used bookstore recently. I just finished reading them. A few questions. There are a multitude of cards that have written names identical to the TCG, but then the characters call them something or add a title to them (examples would be randomly referring to "Summoned Skull" as "Summoned Demon" and Pegasus appending "Relinquished" with, "the Lord of Sacrifices"). Should we list those names using the "altname" parameter, just mention it on the card trivia pages, or something else?

In a similar vein, cards seem to sometimes use their written TCG lore when they couldn't. "Electro-Whip" actually had this, but Mai equipped it to "Harpie Lady" anyway. I have to assume the Japanese manga had the card with different effect. On the same note, we know that "Metalmorph" was "Magic Metal Force", but Keith still called it "Metalmorph".

I'm going to try to get some chapter articles up for the chapters I have access to that we don't have. For cards like "Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon", "Clown Zombie", what procedure are we using? The manga really seems to imply they don't exist as cards, so we list them in "other monsters" in Decklist, right? Ritual Monsters seem to not actually be cards either. "Kuriboh" and "Feral Imp" together were used for "Black Luster Ritual", with "Gaia" seeming to be the one to actually perform the ritual and become "Black Luster Soldier". Similarly, "Jigen Bakudan" and "Winged Dragon" were sacrifices, with "Dark Magician" turning into "Magician of Black Chaos". On the other hand, "Relinquished" was different. "Dark-Eyes Illusionist" and random unnamed thingy were sacrificed, but there was no "performer" for the ritual. "Relinquished" just appeared. Regardless, none of them seemed to be cards.

"Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon" also seemed to not be a card, though I'm not sure if that was due to the Duel Disk Expert Rules or not. I can't check either, the volumes I have had no other Fusion Summons. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:18, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Something the characters call them that isn't actually printed on the card. I think it's a mixture of Viz wanting to use the TCG names for cards, while also trying to use something close to the Japanese names. I put a few of those from the English manga and Singaporean dub in the Card Names pages, e.g. Card Names:Nuvia the Wicked and Card Names:The Snake Hair, but sorta stopped because I'm not too fond of that namespace.
 * Their lore for "Electro-Whip" surprising might be more accurate than one would think. There are some abandoned and rarely referenced early rules. Monsters were split into Monsters and Magic-Users. Monsters had particular elements, which had strengths and weaknesses against each other; Earth > Thunder (sometimes called Lightning) > Water > Fire > Wood > Wind > Earth. Magic-Users were also sub-divided; Black Magic > White Magic > Demon Magic > Illusion Magic > Black Magic. Wind isn't mentioned in the manga and only some of the strengths and weakness are explained. The rest come from video games. In Duelist chapter 4, they explain that each terrain strengthens a particular element; Ocean: Water, Grassland: Fire, Mountains: Lightning, Wasteland: Earth, Forest: Wood. You can see the Duel Monsters article for more information. Since "Harpy Lady" was strengthened by the Mountains, we could assume that her element is Lightning aka Thunder. I can upload a Japanese manga image of "Electro-Whip" and see if I can transcribe it into Google translate.
 * To refer to your original point, they do often use TCG lores rather than manga ones. In which case, I just ignore them and use a translation of the Japanese manga lore.
 * Keith actually used "Metalmorph" (Metallizing Magic Reflection Armor) in the Japanese manga. I think the Japanese anime replaces a lot of the cards, whose effects were changed in the OCG, with similar stuff to avoid confusion (irony?), while the dub usually uses the names from the manga and OCG/TCG. I think you know all the examples; "Mystical Moon" → "Full Moon", "Nightmare Wheel" → "Scratch Wheel" etc. and arguably "Electro-Whip" → "Rose Whip".
 * When using Decklist for manga Decks, I've avoided splitting monsters into Normal and Effect at least before Battle City, because it's too unclear at times as to whether something is an effect or a weird rule. For Fusion Monsters, Ritual Monsters and stuff like "Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon", I've sometimes just added "(not an actual card)" after the name. I proposed adding a parameter for them; Template talk:Decklist, but couldn't think of a decent name.
 * You mean "Griffor", rather than "Feral Imp"? That Ritual thing was inconsistent alright. Although the Japanese lore for "Black Illusion Ritual" is different than the English one. I think it says something along the lines of "a monster with (more than/less than/exactly) 100 ATK" for the sacrifice in contrast to the English manga, which says "two monsters". This could mean that "Dark Eyes Illusionist" was the monster the Ritual was performed on, while the other was the sacrifice, making it consistent with Dark Yugi's two Ritual Summons. To speculate for a minute, if you look at the artwork for "Black Luster Soldier" and "Black Magic Ritual" there's a centre stage for the the monster the ritual is performed on and two containers for the sacrifices. In "Black Illusion Ritual", there's two containers for sacrifices and rather than centre stage for the monster the ritual is performed on, the content of the two containers is being sucked into another container... I'll just upload the Japanese image.
 * Mmm, I don't think any of the Fusion Monsters in the manga prior to GX were actual cards. As strange as the Expert Rules were, I don't think think they would ditch the existence of Fusion Monster Cards in favour of keeping all the Fusion Material on the field. Also the Solid Vision hologram for "Black Skull Dragon" appeared above two cards, presumably "Summoned Skull" and "Red-Eyes Black Dragon", rather than one. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:49, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Right, that's what it seemed like to me. They tried to use both names and it just ended up coming off as poorly translated.
 * Heh, so it was "Metalmorph". The anime really made that more confusing then. I'm glad you told that.
 * That's fair, just using "monsters" seems fine. Would "transformed" monsters work? I think that would encompass most of the cases - rituals, "Metalmorph", Zombies, Toons, etc.
 * Yeah, I meant "Griffor". That lore would make much more sense, but it doesn't help that the ritual itself doesn't seem to be shown unlike the other two. "Relinquished" just kind of appears. That's pretty consistent with your card art speculation too.
 * That Duel was very odd. BEUD counted as four cards, "Polymerization" was kept face-up on his Disk with the BEWDs. He had "Negate Attack" and couldn't draw anything else.
 * I have some time now, so I'll start getting some of the articles up as stubs. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 13:04, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've uploaded the Japanese images for "Electro-Whip" and "Black Illusion Ritual". I should really give the poor guy a break, but I've asked III if he can add their lores.
 * "Transformed" sounds alright, but I wonder about "Harpy Lady Sisters", which was two cards out of nowhere rather than a transformation and "Mystical Beast Selket", which I think came out of nowhere. A few turns after Summoning it, Rishid still had "Cup of Sealed Soul" and "Seal of Selket" in play, but no sign of a Monster Card. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:49, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * If you want to give him a break, you could ask Ryusui to add them. Or LegendaryAsariUgetsu.
 * Hmmm. Yeah, I can't think of a term that would encompass those two as well. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 13:54, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * For appearances in Card articles, do we need to have both the Japanese and English? "Spell Shattering Arrow" currently lists the Japanese chapter number. Should that be changed to the English numbers using "manga_d" or should that be added in addition to it and Yu-Gi-Oh! - Duel 104 be redirected to Yu-Gi-Oh! Duelist - Duel 045? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 14:21, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've managed to tackle the lore for "Electro-Whip" and it means something like "Specified monster's offense power goes up by 300.". So yeah, nothing to do with Thunder monsters.
 * I'd say just use the Duelist number. Same with Millennium World. If necessary, we can get the templates to add 59 and 258 to add the original number in brackets afterwards.
 * I see no problem with adding those redirects. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:24, October 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * That makes sense.
 * Will do, Duelist number it is. I may add those redirects if I get exceedingly bored someday, but I can't say its going to be high on my list of priorities. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:26, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

No outside Card Game Reference
I just got my head smacking by other user in my talk page, is that alright to put in "Pokémon", "Digimon" or "Naruto" in this site as for reference to other card's look and stuffs? He said it was such to be there while I disagreed due to you, Falzar and Cheesy beaten my head in the past about them. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:29, October 27, 2012 (UTC)