User talk:Cheesedude

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Duel Dragon's names
After what you told me about Power Tool's manga name, yeah, I noticed the English nomenclature differs from the Japanese one. In Japanese, the Duel Dragons are all "(adjective 1) (adjective 2) Dragon - (name)"; but so far, all official English names are like this: "(name) (adjective) Dragon". Like, Stardust Spark Dragon, Ancient Pixie Dragon (reminder: "Ancient" is a name in the manga, not an adjective), Power Tool Mecha Dragon. Should we start naming all Duel Dragons like this, the way you do with the Organization names, or just use whatever Viz uses until they are released in the TCG? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 15:52, November 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * If there is a manga name, it takes precedence over the Org name. Power Tool was the exception because the Org used the manga name. Just pick the names from the manga that are most accurate. :) Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:46, November 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ka- Kashikomari! LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 20:50, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Question about Yugioh Zexal episodes 131 and 132
Last week the episodes were about Mizael and Kaito's showdown, Now this week its been changed to Vector vs Durbe and Merag

which one is right?? (THe LiGhT oF DeStrUCtiOn (talk • contribs) 02:59, November 9, 2013 (UTC))


 * The previews were actually changed on the official site. We're assuming the "new" ones are correct. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:00, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Ok thanks cause i keep a list at home of the episodes and fill them in when theres a new one :P Also the Yugioh Zexal Sound Duel 4 comes out Wednesday (THe LiGhT oF DeStrUCtiOn (talk • contribs) 03:10, November 9, 2013 (UTC))

Might I mention that it seems to be the case where false previews are released (usually being WAY too convenient) and then the second time, it's the real ones. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 03:12, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Its happened before, yes. What hasn't ever happened before is our having the official website itself putting up "fake" previews. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:13, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Meh unless the website was hacked they weren't fake: they were either put up by accident - an error, or they have been changed - retconed. Might not be canon but they ain't fake. As such I have left them in a notes section for documentation... But what I cam here for is that can we please either return The Closed Eight or delete Alco - as far as I'm concerned The Closed Eight has as much of a right to exist as Cosmic Blazar Dragon - although I doubt others will go along with that as the latter was talked of in-show... although The Closed Eight was mentioned by official means as well... -- slave (command•works) 03:43, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Right, there's also speculation those were actually previews for future episodes that were numbered wrong. I'd prefer to undelete "The Closed Eight" and add a note about it somewhere. Let me look into it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:46, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ugh, yeah, maybe we should have kept TCE. I added it as a deletion candidate because…well you can kinda see why, but I sorta jumped the gun on that though. But remember what the previews for old episodes were, where they mentioned a guy named Proto who summons Shining Xyz monsters? Yeah, pretty sure that won't happen, or at least not anytime soon. But, you can see my point that the previews have changed VERY drastically before. NMBRHNTR64 (talk • contribs) 05:15, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Those previews came from the usual source - who isn't always right, since its his source that has to be right. These came from NAS' website, so Proto and Alco aren't really comparable here. Anyway, I've restored TCE for now. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:18, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Meh, I see your point. Guess we will just wait and see for ourselves. NMBRHNTR64 (talk • contribs) 05:20, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah the only reason I ahve this stance compared to any other occasion is because it was from NAS... anyhow thanks guys =) -- slave (command•works) 07:50, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, what about it being candidate for deletion? Should we keep it or should I get rid of it? NMBRHNTR64 (talk • contribs) 20:38, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'd prefer to keep both articles, at least until the next episode airs. There's a possibility Alco will still be around, he just won't encounter Kite. Assuming that doesn't happen, I'd like to add a note to both articles that just says "this came from an official source but was redacted" or something. We should still document them in some way. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:44, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * LOLZ, you misunderstood. I get keeping the article, what about it being a candidate? NMBRHNTR64 (talk • contribs) 21:01, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * If we're going to keep the article, why would we keep the deletion tag on it? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:15, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Didn't think "this article is a candidate for deletion" meant "this article will definitely be deleted", but ok. NMBRHNTR64 (talk • contribs) 21:20, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

So, if the previous episode summaries are kept under trivia, why hasn't this done before? I remember there were some episodes that were under the same "position" (like 121, 122, 123 etc.). E n e r g y X ∞ 23:35, November 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Probably because people haven't done it before and as the edit history wasn't restored upon them being recreated I haven't done it - although in the cases you mentioned I thought those previews were fake ? - or at least not from an official source (so IMO they shouldn't have been their in the first place...) -- slave (command•works) 23:38, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Whats going on with the wiki??
how come it looks like a normal wiki layout? also sound duel 4 of zexal is out now with a track list (THe LiGhT oF DeStrUCtiOn (talk • contribs) 20:49, November 14, 2013 (UTC))


 * Some sort of glitch at Wikia's datacenter. It will be changed back when its resolved. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:14, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Summaries
When will there be a summary for episode 129 and 106. I know it takes time but can you add them before episode 130 comes out?Dragonemperor135 (talk • contribs) 02:18, November 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * I will try to do 129's summary tomorrow (depends on my day goes). I have no plans to do 106's though. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:20, November 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm not going to be able to do 129's summary today. However, I have enough time off next week that I should be able to have both 129 and 130 done by the end of Thursday. Most of the time this week that I'd be using for summaries was taken by the LVAL spoilers, sorry. And today, I just won't have the inclination. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:23, November 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, 129 is done. I still have no script or sub to work off of for 130 though. Once there is one, I will get around to the summary when I can. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:35, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Mover
Thank you very much! :D Just glad to be of help :) -- slave (command•works) 21:54, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Counter Spice Cumin
It is stated that Sartyr has two "Counter Spice Cumin" cards, but I only saw one (the one he activated). When was the other copy seen in the episode?Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 15:58, November 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * I have no idea. I'm not seeing any evidence of him having two myself. Think its safe to remove. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:30, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Number 10X
Should all the Number 10X be put under Fake Number because they were created by Don Thousand except for Number 107 as it is in the Legend of the Dragons of Light and Time which means it kind of has to be real.Dragonemperor135 (talk • contribs) 21:34, November 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * No. They're not fake, they're unconnected to the rest of the Numbers. Tachyon is connected and the others may yet end up being connected too. Too soon to tell. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:37, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Something messed up
Hi i noticed on all the single Zexal episode pages the bottom box of all season 2 on each one is kind of lopsides with it being shown just on the left side just wanted to bring it up if you havent noticed. It looks like this

(THe LiGhT oF DeStrUCtiOn (talk • contribs) 21:31, November 22, 2013 (UTC))


 * It's appearing as one column for me. Try clearing your cache. Also see how it appears in another browser. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:35, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

That didn't work, man!Over-HundredLegendaryChaosShiningNumbers (talk • contribs) 15:30, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Affiliation
Hello, Cheesedude. I am an admin from Code Geass Wiki I would like to ask for affiliation between our wikis. If you are interested, here is the banner. Thank you. 11:38, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Infernity Barrier
Random vandalism addition. This thing about adding in a card's article that it appeared in the manga is becoming quite common lately, I think our vandal has a hobby. :/ (I remember the same happened with Guardian of Order, for example) LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 13:53, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Regarding a new Archetype
Do you think a new archetype page named Blizzard, should be created now that we have 2 Effect Monsters and 2 Spell Cards named using that word and all of them have been used by a single person in the anime.--Supratim1986 (talk • contribs) 18:07, November 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think it would be a valid series, yeah. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:11, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Please?
Could you please unlock the Seven Barian Emperors page so I can add that the Barian Emperors have "Number 43: Soul Marionetter" and "Number 96: Dark Mist" with them?!Over-HundredLegendaryChaosShiningNumbers (talk • contribs) 02:29, November 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * No. There's been far too much edit warring and no discussion since the lock. I have added the requested content myself though. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:44, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Cheesedude! Also, do you know why neoarkcradle.net isn't working right now?Over-HundredLegendaryChaosShiningNumbers (talk • contribs) 03:13, November 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * I have no idea. I'm wondering the same thing myself. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:15, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Mode vs Position
User:Philiosophical-Psychological Informist Togekiss and I are having a dispute with mode and position on the pages. Which one is better for card appearances pages? I prefer position because that's how this wiki has been referring to it for a majority of pages which includes many anime episodes. Also his edits are helpful, but a couple of them undo most of the hard work I placed into the pages (which I find a bit troublesome). Could you help convince this guy not to modify too much of the card appearances pages as its hard for me to fix them up.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 11:49, November 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * I honestly don't think it matters. Talking to some of the other admins about this though. I'll let you know. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:53, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Number Holder page needs info
Could you add on that page that Trey and Quinton are no longer active? Also, could you add that Alito has collected 3 Numbers with him having Nanbaazu Hachijyuu Kyousou Haou Rapusodi in Baasaaku and that Vector has 8 Numbers with him thanks to Nanbaazu Kyuujyuuroku Burakku Misuto and Nanbaazu Yonjyuusan Konpaku Kugutsuki Souru Marionettaa being in his posession? Thank you.Over-HundredLegendaryChaosShiningNumbers (talk • contribs) 15:46, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I've unlocked the page. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:02, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Could we also have the 7 Barian Emperor page unlocked to update with the relevant info. Thanks. Photonkrios99 (talk • contribs) 20:11, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I updated it yesterday. That one had enough edit warring that I'm not willing to unlock. There has still been no discussion... Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:16, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * By chance would that have been about the hole Alito is a 'former BE' thing. Photonkrios99 (talk • contribs) 20:21, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:21, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well if it helps Ellis99, who was the user insisting he wasn't an emperor anymore posted this on my talk page a few days ago in response to a comment on his regarding this situation. http://i.imgur.com/plLFOHj.png, Photonkrios99 (talk • contribs) 20:25, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Hmm. He hasn't edited much since the page was locked. I'll unlock it, but I will not hesitate to relock if needed. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:27, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Tis fair enough, thank you. Photonkrios99 (talk • contribs) 20:28, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Episode 129
I think you were trying to say episode 131 instead of 129. I always get my information about ZEXAL mainly in BBS-Newise and Neo Ark Cradle. They have interesting thing there. (Bring it 'em --- User:Avatarr) 22:20, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I have to do more translating from some japanese friends tho. lol! (Bring it 'em --- User:Avatarr) 22:26, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

My Last post on Reginald Kastle.
Exactly what seemed relevent to removing my last edit on the webpage? superlogan7437 (talk • contribs) 16:25, November 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * I've responded in my edit summary on the page. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:05, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Question About Wikia Infomation
Hey dude, I see you changed my edit on the Druid page back. I didn't know that the site's bias was that it took anime text for granted for such things. Is there there anywhere I can find infomation like that? I would like to know, should I made such a mistake again. Zaziuma (talk • contribs) 20:48, November 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * The archetype page itself should explain it enough. If it doesn't, then let me know and I'll be sure to do so more fully there. But yes, the anime and manga counts. Also, see the navbox at the bottom of Druid? All archetype pages have that. Look in the support section. That will link you to any support a given archetype has. If you click on the link for "Dru", you can see its animelore parameter, which makes its support or "Druid" clear. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:49, November 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think you misunderstood me, I am asking for what the site says is what is an isn't right. I would personally not say that Archetypes for the anime should count as an Archetype, as it does not appear in the TCG or OCG as one. In case there are anything else like that, I would like to know if there was a page that talked about that, or what biases the site has for such things. If there even is anything like that, and this is just one instance where such a thing is present. In that case, just forget about it. Zaziuma (talk • contribs) 20:59, November 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * This wiki is a wiki for all aspects of the YGO franchise. So the anime and manga count. There never was a discussion about that particular rule, but its been taken as a given by the community. We document everything. Admittedly, a list of archetypes that excludes anime/manga cards is probably something many players would find useful, but there's no real way to that here right now beyond using categories. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:05, November 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * Alright, I guess that will do. Thanks for you time. Zaziuma (talk • contribs) 21:14, November 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure. Feel free to let me know if you have any more questions. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:21, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

OK, let me get some things straight.
Nasch and Merag's souls being "transfered" into the dead bodies of Reginald and Rio Kastle is a grave misunderstanding within the concepts of life and death. It makes it sounds like a morbid way of resurrection, like the Dark Signers from 5D's, when rather they are given new life by the very spirits of the Barians, hence reincarnation is a more appropriate term for their revival, since Reginald Kastle could still recall his childhood but not his past life's memories until later that season. There are also characters in the Yugioh franchise that where also reincarnated in life like Seto Kaiba, Jaden Yuki, and even Jack Atlas. The Kastle siblings' death could be best described as a near-death experience, since they are also confirmed descendants of Nasch. Reincarnation doesn't just happen at birth; in anime it happens through destiny. superlogan7437 (talk • contribs) 03:02, November 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * They flatlined. They were dead. Having new souls put in their bodies revived them. And no, they are not confirmed descendents of anyone. Its implied, but not confirmed. "Reincarnation" is similar to what happened here, but its not the same thing. All the examples you mentioned make sense as "reincarnations". It doesn't work in this case, though. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:08, November 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well saying that their souls transferred into their bodies does not work either; it doesn't justified that the Kastle siblings becoming the new incarnates of Nasch and Merag rather than the Barians strictly possessing their bodies. superlogan7437 (talk • contribs) 05:45, November 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't see how it doesn't. Here, its the soul that defines who the person is. Reginald and Rio's souls are gone, so they become Nasch and Merag. But the minds of the originals are still there, giving them their human memories. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:21, November 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * I just find this statement entirely upsetting to say the least. Please just say that Nasch and Merag became Reginald and Rio Kastle instead, I don't want this article to sound like they're possessing the dead. superlogan7437 (talk • contribs) 16:39, November 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * They more or less are possessing the dead, except their souls revived the bodies. Had they not, the originals would have died. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:42, November 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * So you DO admit that Reginald and Rio are the new Nasch and Merag and not clinically dead. superlogan7437 (talk • contribs) 00:33, December 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * They as people are dead, because their souls are gone. Their bodies continue with the souls of Nasch and Merag. Cheesedude (talk


 * That is all unnecessary speculation, there is no mention that the two having their Barian souls as being entirely exclusive from their human selves, not like Yugi and Yami Yugi, and especially not like Jaden and Yubel. superlogan7437 (talk • contribs) 23:28, December 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * The way you are wording things is also speculation, then. You are also messing up the grammar. I don't understand what problem you have with the wording I used in the articles. Your versions say the same thing in a less clear fashion. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:31, December 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * I shouldn't really be saying anything about this topic but according to what you just said Superlogan you are saying the same soul existed in barian nasch and merag when vector killed them, as were in the body of original rio and reginald who the died then had the same soul that was in 2 places put into that dead body whilst the other body is unknown... There is so little logic in everything on most sides of any discussion about these characters.
 * I request the explanation of your actual meaning as i hope what i didnt spell out there what you actually mean, in the mean time i shall go back to lurking -- slave (command•works)


 * Let me make this simple then: Reginald and Rio's human souls should've merged with Nasch and Merag's when the two were revived in their respective bodies, not simply transferred out of their empty husks. Its the soul what makes the memories and emotions of a person, and since both Reginald/Nasch and Rio/Merag have recalled sharing the same childhood before and even after their deaths, its only fair to say that both Nasch and Merag became PART of Reginald and Rio Kastle, and only recently have the two started reconnecting with their former selves. In fact, Nasch and Merag should be the first two characters to be reincarnated twice in the same Yu-gi-oh! anime (First as Barians, second as humans). Forgive for trying to apply spirituality in a cartoon, I just find it hard to stomach that one of my favorite characters has been to this point UNDEAD. superlogan7437 (talk • contribs) 02:07, December 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * We do not know what happened to Reginald and Rio's souls. You have assumed they merged with Nasch's and Merag's and I have assumed that the souls departed. The fact is, we don't actually know. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:18, December 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * What cheesedude said, furthermore though 'soul' and 'spirit' and other such words meanings despite what any given dictionary may say; are used in many many different ways whilst your usage may carry memories and so on, they might not mean it the same way. If however what you say is more or less what it turns out to be how does one determine that they... how do i put this A+B=C, B≠C even if B>A
 * Your thoughts have merit but they are still speculation I for one feel what is currently there relies on less guessing *shrugs* -- slave (command•works) 02:28, December 4, 2013 (UTC)

Episode 136
I'm sorry I can't really clarify there but do you know what the go with these 'fake' previews are? episodes 137-141 at any rate... I could have sworn 136 was the exact same source as 135 which... didn't ahve any contradictions misleading previews that were legit... -- slave (command•works) 08:01, December 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * I would tend to agree with what UltimateKuriboh said there. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:25, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

R
You may have noticed it already, but I'm re-checking the R manga now (since I've bought Viz's volumes), and as usual, with each manga tons of doubts come. xD First, I've noticed something: instead of translating the manga lore, Viz just copy/paste'd the TCG lores of the TCG-existing cards (for example, you can see Dark Magician Girl, but in Viz's volume she has the TCG lore). I just ignore them and go with the JP lores, right? (I did it with Diffusion Wave-Motion, for example) Second, the NC images. In the omakes, there are full-body drawings of some monsters. Which NC image do you think is better, the monster being summoned in the chapter or the full-body drawing from the omake? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 21:12, December 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Regarding the lore thing, Viz also tried to adapt the lolmangalogic lores to the TCG. For example, Gem of Lycanthropy's lore translates to "Change the form of a Mutant.", while in Viz's volume the lore is "Tribute 1 'Mutant' monster to Special Summon another 'Mutant' monster from your deck.". Which lore should I use? JP translated or Viz's lulzattemptofadaption? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 22:00, December 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't see any harm in just uploading all the omake images and keeping them. If you don't want to do that, use your own discretion for which is better. It doesn't have to be "all omake" or "no omake". You can decide on a case-by-case basis. I will get back to you on the other questions. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:25, December 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, just ignore VIZ altogether here if they are wrong. Add hidden notes though, it may deter others adding the lores from the English images. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:08, December 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * It feels so great to add the lores the right way rather than exactly like Viz's. 8D Regarding the omake, you mean uploading them + the regular NC images or just the omakes? I don't mind uploading both, it's not such an additional work. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:16, December 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * You can upload them if you want, yeah. I don't see any reason not to. I guess just put (omake) or something behind the images in the galleries. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:24, December 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll do it then. Some omakes show nice shots of the monsters, like Gorz without his helmet for example. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 01:49, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Previews
I'm sorry I can't really clarify there but do you know what the go with these 'fake' previews are? episodes 137-141 at any rate... I could have sworn 136 was the exact same source as 135 which... didn't have any contradictions misleading previews that were legit... -- slave (command•works) 08:01, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

Manually undone by -- slave (command•works) 07:08, December 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * gibberish/broken post* Dragonemperor135 (talk • contribs) 21:13, December 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * The were taken down from NAS' site altogether. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:25, December 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * ...same as episodes 130-131... nevermind; dealt with... -- slave (command•works) 07:08, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Links
Y'know, many people edited manga articles to do changes to links like this (like, linking to the "manga" or "D Team" article), but many of those don't have the article (as you can see in that edit). Shouldn't we link to the manga section in the anime article instead? Otherwise those links link to nothing, it's kinda lame. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 18:05, December 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * The intent is the empty articles will encourage other users to actually create them, I think. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:42, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

The database site
That new card database site is pretty cool, huh? I'd actually always wondered if high-quality pictures of anime-only cards existed somewhere, and it look like they do! It also finally solved some discrepancies that have puzzled us for ages, like what card type the Legendary Dragons are (Normal Spells) and whether or not Silent Swordsman LV0's alternate forms count as separate monsters (they do). I'm anxious to see if even more cards will be added over time! Rod (talk • contribs) 19:32, December 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, its pretty awesome. The community here at large has embraced it and helped with the upload process. This is one of those things that's been on my "awesome thing that will never happen list" since before I started on the wiki. Its staggering what they've gotten done already. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:41, December 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * It does seem like more cards will be added over time, as if you do a bit of digging you can find [cards that aren't listed yet] in the code. Note also a listing for "Grand Dragon Leviathan;" the picture is, erroneously, Cave Dragon, but I think this is supposed to be The Great Leviathan, finally confirming he too is a Duel Monster! Rod (talk • contribs) 20:43, December 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, we've been digging that way. Some cards just plian aren't up yet though. And yeah, the Leviathan thing made us all laugh. I mean, there are even pages for cards that weren't played or named like "Fossil Machine Skull Buggy" (which only just got a wiki page as a result). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:13, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Machina Gearframe
I believe it's that sillhouette in page 7, Shark's pal's panel. I was hesitating in leaving it though, I can't say for sure whether it is or not Gearframe...
 * By the way, would you happen to recognize this monster? :P LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 13:33, December 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah, ok. Yeah, that looks like it to me. Leaving it is fine, I think. And no, sorry, I don't recognize Tetsuo's monster either. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:31, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

Don Thousand
Is it alright to add that Don Thousand killed all the Seven Barian Emperors. We have evidence from Girag and Alito past lives of him giving them the Number 10X. I mean its pretty obvious but your opinion.http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Cheesedude?action=edit&section=new#ious that he did. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Cheesedude?action=edit&section=new#Dragonemperor135 (talk • contribs) 04:50, December 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * We only know that he killed Girag and Alito. We should know for sure with Mizael quite soon. The previews for Nasch vs. Vector also mention their true memories being brought up, and that will no doubt involve Durbe ad Merag too. So I'd prefer if we just waited. It may not be quite the same for them all. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:55, December 21, 2013 (UTC)

Who is going to make the changes to Jinlongs and Mizaels page? I mean whats going on is pretty important and I do not speak fluent Japanese so I can not make the edits myself.Dragonemperor135 (talk • contribs) 22:31, December 22, 2013 (UTC)

@Cheesdude: Personally, I think that the Nasch vs Vector eps will tell us the truth about Merag's past life memories along with Nasch and Vector's true past life memories but I can't see Durbe's true memories being revealed until Yuma Duels Vector/Don Thousand because Nasch has 73 and 94 while Vector has 65. Neither of them have 44, Yuma has 44, so Durbe's true memories will have to wait a long while to be revealed. Also, Mizael's true memories were revealed this episode, although it's strange they chose the 1st half of the Duel with Kite vs Mizael instead of the 2nd half of the duel like with Yuma vs Alito and Alito vs Girag. And it turns out that Don Thousand did kill Mizzy after all and also gave him his Number 10X. Also, Don Thousand now has 3 forms as of this ep: His Barian form, his Grim Reaper/Shinigami form, and his Shaman form 9that's right, DT was the wandering Shaman). It's a good thing these next several eps are flashbacks of the Emperor's past lives true memories.Over-HundredLegendaryChaosShiningNumbers (talk • contribs) 23:10, December 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * @Dragonmaster Changes will be made when we have a full translation. There is no rush.


 * @Numbers I'm aware of all that. My point was that Nasch, Vector, Merag and Durbe all have past lives at are intertwined, so we could very easily see all their memories at once. Alito, Girag and Mizael did not - they were all separate, they never met any other future Barians. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:03, December 23, 2013 (UTC)

But Durbe and Vector seem to have died outside of the presence of the others. So maybe only Nasch's and merag's true memories can be viewwed together.Over-HundredLegendaryChaosShiningNumbers (talk • contribs) 17:03, December 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * True. However, Yuma could just as easily toss Number 44 to Nasch before the Duel starts or something, which would let us see Durbe's as well. We'll just have to wait and see. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:30, December 23, 2013 (UTC)

Please unlock this page!
Please unlock Card_Trivia_talk:Number_62:_Galaxy-Eyes_Prime_Photon_Dragon! It was proven in yesterday's episode that, as some were arguing through edit-wars, Prime Photon Dragon is on the tablet! So could you please unlock the page! Please!!!!Over-HundredLegendaryChaosShiningNumbers (talk • contribs) 16:11, December 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * Unlocked. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:30, December 23, 2013 (UTC)

Chapter gallery
Y'know, I usually add shots of the most important parts of the chapters in their articles when I write the full summary for them, but now that I can't do that anymore the manga articles are pretty abandoned... I was thinking, do you think I should start making a gallery for the chapters, adding files to show the main events of it? Since the biographies aren't updated either, I think that could help a bit removing this "abandoned" vibe. Also, I've seen other Wikias, such as the One Piece Wikia, have a gallery for each character, and it looks nice. It's just a thought though, I'd like your opinion as well. ;D LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:41, December 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * A gallery for chapter articles would be fine. That's been on in the past for episode articles before a summary gets written. As for character galleries, I'm not fond of the idea. Ideally, the images should be next to text that they describe as visual aides. If there truly is no other place to put those images and the images exist, I guess it would be fine, but it should be undone as soon as any other way presents itself, I think. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:30, December 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * So, galleries only for chapter articles? In that case, how should I do it? Add a "gallery" section in the article itself? Make a "sub-article" like the chapter card galleries? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 18:31, December 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * I would go with with a gallery section, yeah. No need to isolate the images from the article if they're meant to improve the look. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:33, December 23, 2013 (UTC)

What ifs
There's a what could have happened thing on 5D's 92 article, and I'm curious as to our stance on those things. Don't we usually not list how Duels could be won unless a character says it (a character not doing something that would have won them the Duel isn't a mistake after all)? Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 03:16, December 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * We usually don't, no. I would remove it. In fact, the second point is just wrong, Lawton attempts to do exactly what that point says he never tried. He doesn't try again later, true. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:23, December 24, 2013 (UTC)

Manga
I'm starting to think that if it wasn't for me, this'd be an anime-only Wikia. xD I'm taking some time now since I'm in vacation for a couple of weeks to re-check R, but man, we have nothing about DM. Card effects, card images, we lack even chapter articles. I'd like to add that whole stuff, but it's too much for me alone. I was thinking, do you happen to know of 1 or 2 guys around here who have DM's volumes in English and would be interested in eiditing the manga? If someone could create the articles with the official English names (and maybe duel summary, since I'm used to writing those in a completely different standard), I could add Japanese infos and images. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 17:39, December 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * I have a few English volumes and I believe Deltaneos does well. There is a user whose name I can't remember that also worked on some R stuff recently and mentioned the English volumes. Perhaps he has some DM volumes as well. I'll look the the volumes I have when I have time and add the info when I can (I think I have volumes 4-12, something like that). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:54, December 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's probably me who's been doing R, but I don't HAVE the volumes per se, I just borrow them from the library, which makes getting a hold of them fairly easy. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 23:19, January 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, yes it was you. Sorry. And thank you, by the way. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:25, January 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's all good. You're most welcome. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 01:38, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Edit
This is untolerable. Please ban the user for doing so. E n e r g y X ∞ 00:48, December 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think the person needs a ban yet; just a warning not to do that again. He only has 1 edit, so a simple warning first would be better. Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 01:01, December 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * In 99% of cases, a single vandalism edit is not enough grounds for a block. I'd issue a warning as Shard said. Racial slurs fall in that 1% though, so yes, blocked. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:15, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

Question
What do you think of this, and what Template should it be added on to or any extra Catagory (I leave template editing to other people normally)? Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 17:47, December 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, awesome. A complete list would be most welcome. As for the templates, I'll look at again in a bit. I'm a bit tied up with family, so I do't have a lot of time right now. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:53, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

Official website images
Forum:Official_website_images_(OW) --Dlamash (talk • contribs) 18:06, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

Noble Knight page
Since there is no reason to let this devolve into an edit war, it would probably be better to take the issue up here. The site's standard for an archetype is based on the name first, and what the effect supports second. While I believe that standard is flawed beyond belief, it is still what I have been going by when reverting or removing any changes in regards to adding Gwenhwyfar from the Noble Knights page. She is a Noble Arms card and not a Noble Knight, by the definition set by the site. None of the other Noble Arms are consider Noble Knights despite the fact that they are all meant to support them

Lady of the Lake on the other hand, is considered a Noble Knight card because her effect is clearly meant to support them even if she is NOT a member of the archetype by name.

Unless this has changed since the last time I fought with the staff over the definition of an archetype (Abyss being an archetype including all Mermails despite the fact that Mermails did not support the 2 Abyss monsters, and the Abyss Spell/Traps all being Mermail support) then I fail to see how I am the one in the wrong for maintaining the page while following what the site staff has decided to be the standard to follow - Axel Shiokawa (talk • contribs) 07:46, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Manga HERO Fusions
To be honest, the time I edited the GX manga, I was still reading it for the first time, and didn't know well how to handle the manga lores. I use to check this website for manga lores when I needed 'em, and it lists them with specific materials, to I went with it. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 15:54, January 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * Y'know, do you remember when we talked about the manga lores being totally different from the TCG lores, and you told me to translate them literally, using any wording the manga used? Extra Deck monsters don't have their materials listed in the manga, so we can never be sure about them. And not only fusions, there are lots of cases in which an Xyz Monster may or may not require specific Attribute monsters, or a synchro monster requires or not a specific tuner/non-tuner monster, etc. I'm not sure about how to handle this though. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:00, January 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I guess. This case is a bit more complicated than the lores. Well, yeah, I guess it doesn't hurt to just make a reconstruction based on how they were summoned, and in case the card comes to the OCG and the materials match (e.g. Number 22: Zombiestein), list the manga materials like the OCG materials. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:09, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Skull Base
Hello Cheesdude. I have a doubt. The card "Skull Base" was not a Zombie froma ttribute Water?

--TheUndeadLord (talk • contribs) 21:10, January 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * From what I can tell, there was never any evidence it was WATER. The card wasn't shown in the anime. The official website page say its DARK, so that's why I changed it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:18, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the anwer --TheUndeadLord (talk • contribs) 00:48, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

Quinton/V Gallery
So, I was redirected to you from UltimateKuriboh. I've been trying to locate it to place a specific image into it, but I can't seem to find it. --DysonSlinky (talk • contribs) 02:48, January 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * This one --DysonSlinky (talk • contribs) 02:53, January 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I don't know where it came from either. I was browisng google images for V's hilarious posture when he summoned Chaos Dyson Sphere and found this, and I was like "Okay.. I'm.. going to keep this". Nor, do I know which opening/ending it is from. Then again, I never really paid much attention to the endings. Still haven't found that image was originally trying to find anyway. --DysonSlinky (talk • contribs) 02:59, January 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh neat, that happens to be my favorite opening too. Now then, how would I add the image to it? I don't see a gallery for it. lol --DysonSlinky (talk • contribs) 03:12, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

Are templates not working for you, or is it just me?
I just want to let you know that for some reason, I can't open up any archetype tabs at the bottom of a page, or the things on a page where it tells you what episode or card set the card was in. I hope that you fix this problem soon. It may be just me, but if it isn't, I hope you look into it, because I like typing down archetype decks on my computer in my space time. Thank you for your cooperation. (HamsterDancer (talk • contribs) 14:11, January 20, 2014 (UTC)) (HamsterDancer (talk • contribs) 14:21, January 20, 2014 (UTC))


 * Some updates to the javascript are causing some issues. Its being looked in to. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:52, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Number Decklists
It doesn't seem half bad. I find the decklist easier to follow and more practical, but this new ideia seems better to provide explanations and spares those ton of notes. Besides, it also helps avoiding loooong edit wars with reasons why or why not when the possession of a certain Number is not known for sure. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:16, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

ZEXAL Episode 93 summary
I expanded on the summary. Mind cleaning it up a bit? I might be wrong in some details because I watched both the original and dub versions while I was editing it. ChaosGallade (talk • contribs) 21:04, January 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look then, sure. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:25, January 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Added some links and edited a few other minor things. Very nice job, though. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:44, January 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. ChaosGallade (talk • contribs) 02:46, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Grammar doubt
Is it possible to use the word "as" in the same meaning of "while", like I did in the short summary of both this month's chapters? :P LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 21:25, January 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's perfectly fine. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:25, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Bujingi Peacock
2 days ago some one edited the card page and when I try to bring it up on my screen all I get is a big blank area. They did 2 edits and the 1st old ID comes up ok, just not the current version. Thought you might like to check out the page. I can't tell what is wrong if anything is in fact wrong. If you can pull up the page things are golden, if not...

-- Glittersword  Talk • Contributions 03:37, January 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Its showing up for me. I'm not sure what happened. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:41, January 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's working for me now too, must have been bad timing on my part.
 * Glittersword Talk • Contributions 03:44, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Replies
@Grammar: Oh, good to know, then. @Numbers list: so we'd only list Numbers played in a duel in the Decklist, huh. This sounds good, since holding a Number doesn't mean having it in the Extra Deck. This will keep things more consistent and reliable. It's a shame this was only thougth about near the end of ZEXAL (well, we still have the manga anywayz). LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 20:29, January 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * BTW, another little doubt. Shark vs Yagumo technically begun in Rank 37, simultaneously with Yuma vs Kaito, but the first bit of the duel which was shown was in Rank 38. In the character's decklists, should I add the duel as "Rank 37-???" or "Rank 38-???"? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 20:39, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Hey CD.
Care to help mediate on an issue where going on between me and NMBRHNTR64 on Seven Barian Emperors webpage? He won't let me proofread part of the page and even after presenting a source of information, he won't let me edit. Can you address this please before there's any more edit warring?

superlogan7437 (talk • contribs) 01:43, January 23, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Number Decklists
It looks pretty good, are you thinking of adding images at all? TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 12:19, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

Bullet points
My main question is, why move away from using them in the first place, when there are several advantages to using them? Do the reasons for moving away from them outweigh these advantages? Blueapple128 (talk • contribs) 02:27, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * In that case, at least breaking up the turns into paragraphs would be better than a huge wall of text. My strongest examples are the two turns in Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's - Episode 151 and the three Duels listed at the bottom of the NTK page; for these four Duels, would bullets, separate paragraphs, or something else be most preferred? Blueapple128 (talk • contribs) 02:49, January 29, 2014 (UTC)

Beelzeus
Yo, since it'll take long until we get an official name for Demon King Super-Dragon - Beelzeus, I wonder if we could give 'im an Org name, to sound better in English and to fit more with Beelze, King of Dark Dragons. Maybe something like "Beelzeus, King of Super Dragons" or whatever. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 21:31, February 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it could use a more consistent name, I agree. I'll see what everyone thinks, then. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:33, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

IgorThunderMaster
Hey Cheese, can you try to tell Igor that we're keeping the character Decks on their individual pages in an attempt to get rid of the "X's Decks" pages please? I've told them in both edit revisions and on their talk page, but they don't reply and continue to revert my edits. Thanks. TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 20:47, February 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'll leave him a message. It doesn't help that we've not made much progress towards that goal, so I sort of understand why he's doing it. And on that note, I suppose that's what I'll work on later tonight, XD. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:20, February 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * I could understand that, but I have told him that we're trying to do that several times, but he continues to edit and doesn't even reply to what I say. And I can work on them too, haha. I think the majority of ZEXAL ones can be deleted as their incarnates all have their respective pages. And I can work on a few of the 5D's ones too (I think Aki's in pretty much ready to be deleted too). Thanks! xD TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 14:34, February 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh and whilst we're on the topic of "X's Decks" pages, do you think we should put the Decks from publications on their respective character pages, or on the pages of that product, such as the Number Guide ones. Thanks. TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 16:41, February 5, 2014 (UTC)