User talk:Dinoguy1000

Bug update
The archetype navboxes still don't seem to be working right. I thought all of that was fixed. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:47, April 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Guess those Admins are little lazy. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:49, April 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I certainly am, but I can't speak for the other admins... ;) Cheesedude, can you provide links to archetype navboxes that are still not displaying correctly, and specify how they should be displaying? Without examples and knowing exactly what's wrong, I may not be able to fix them. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:24, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * See Yokai Monster It's displaying members that appears in the TCG and support cards from the manga. Manga-only monsters are not displaying for whatever reason. Also, the navbox at Blackwing is missing massive amounts of cards in all three subsections. I don't know of any others off-hand, but I'm sure there are some. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:49, April 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've tried applying some fixes to ArchetypeNavbox and assorted concepts, but SMW's behavior seems to have changed in several ways in the most recent update, and I was never really familiar with it in the first place. If my changes don't fix the missing cards, you'll probably have to ask Deltaneos to have a look. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:52, April 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * I hate to say this, but whatever you did appears to have removed the manga support cards from the Yokai Monster navbox. I'll contact Deltaneos, then. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:12, April 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Heh, I have to admit, that's awesome. =D Here's hoping Delt can fix/has fixed it. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:14, April 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Apparently the problem is that redirects are no longer accepted for the navboxes. Since some archetype pages were moved, this mucked it up. I actually sort of forgot about moving the rest of the archetype pages, but now I'm glad I did, since there's cleanup to be done, which would be easier with a bot's help *hinthint* Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:46, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm horribly inconsistent in running my bot. ;) The problem is, I add rules for it to fix issues as I come across them, and I have the problem of trying to add rules that are beyond my capabilities at the time, so I stop with the intention to revisit them later, and it never happens. The most recent thing responsible for this is an attempt to auto-add the animanga appearances templates; I suspect there's a bug in AWB's regex handling but I'm dragging my feet about reporting/asking about it. =D
 * In any case, if you give me a list, I can make a bot run specifically to update archetypes (and the more I can do at once, the better *hinthint* ). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:15, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Update list
The following need to be changed from their plural forms. For archetype, archsupport and archrelated, where applicable.
 * Advanced Crystal Beasts → Advanced Crystal Beast
 * Aliens → Alien
 * Allies of Justice → Ally of Justice
 * Alligators → Alligator
 * Allure Queens → Allure Queen
 * Apes → Ape
 * Archfiends → Archfiend
 * Archlords → Archlord
 * Armed Dragons → Armed Dragon
 * Armor Monsters → Armor Monster
 * Attribute Fields → Attribute Field
 * Attribute Spirits → Attribute Spirit
 * Baboons of the Forest → Baboon of the Forest
 * Bamboo Swords → Bamboo Sword
 * Barrier Statues → Barrier Statue
 * Batterymen → Batteryman
 * Blackwing Tamers → Blackwing Tamer
 * Blackwings → Blackwing
 * Bugman → Crashbug
 * Bugroths → Bugroth
 * Burning Skulls → Burning Skull
 * Charmers → Charmer
 * Clock Knights → Clock Knight
 * Cloudians → Cloudian
 * Clowns → Clown
 * Cosmic Synchro Monsters → Cosmic Synchro Monster
 * Counter Fairies → Counter Fairy
 * Crystal Beasts → Crystal Beast
 * Cups → Cup
 * Cyber Girls → Cyber Girl
 * Cyberdarks → Cyberdark
 * Cybers → Cyber
 * Cyclers → Cycler
 * D-Hero → Destiny HERO
 * Dark counterparts → Dark counterpart
 * Dark Counterparts → Dark counterpart
 * Dark Mimics → Dark Mimic
 * Dark Scorpions → Dark Scorpion
 * Darklords → Darklord
 * Destiny Hero → Destiny HERO
 * Destiny Heroes → Destiny HERO
 * Djinns of Rituals → Djinn of Rituals ("Rituals" is in every card name)
 * Doll Parts → Doll Part
 * Dragon Lords → Dragon Lord
 * Dragunity Arms → Dragunity Arma
 * Dragunity Knights → Dragunity Knight
 * E-Hero → Elemental HERO
 * E-Heroes → Elemental HERO
 * Earthbound Immortals → Earthbound Immortal
 * Egyptian Gods → Egyptian God
 * Elemental Hero → Elemental HERO
 * Elemental heroes → Elemental HERO
 * Elemental Heroes → Elemental HERO
 * Elemental Searchers → Elemental Searcher
 * Evil Hero → Evil HERO
 * Evil Heroes → Evil HERO
 * Field Searchers → Field Searcher
 * Flamvells → Flamvell
 * Fortune Fairies → Fortune Fairy
 * Fortune Ladies → Fortune Lady
 * Fossils → Fossil
 * Frogs → Frog
 * Gadgets → Gadget
 * Gadjiltrons → Gadjiltron
 * Gaia Knights → Gaia Knight
 * Gardnas → Gardna
 * Gem-Knights → Gem-Knight
 * Gemknight → Gem-Knight
 * Gemknights → Gem-Knight
 * Geometric Knights → Geometric Knight
 * Gladiator Beasts → Gladiator Beast
 * Goblins → Goblin
 * Guardians → Guardian
 * Gun Dragons → Gun Dragon
 * Harpies → Harpie
 * Hecates → Hecate
 * Heralds → Herald
 * Hero → HERO
 * Heroes → HERO
 * Hidden Knights → Hidden Knight
 * Infernities → Infernity
 * Inverz → Steelswarm
 * Iron Chains → Iron Chain
 * Jars → Jar
 * Jesters → Jester
 * Jurac → Jurrac
 * Juracs → Jurrac
 * Jurak → Jurrac
 * Juraks → Jurrac
 * Jurracs → Jurrac
 * Kings → King
 * Landstars → Landstar
 * Lavals → Laval
 * Legendary Dragons → Legendary Dragon
 * Legendary Planets → Legendary Planet
 * Lightsworns → Lightsworn
 * LV Monsters → LV Monster
 * M-HERO → Masked HERO
 * M-Heroes → Masked HERO
 * Machine Emperor → Meklord
 * Machine Emperors → Meklord
 * Machine Imperial Soldier → Meklord Army
 * Machine Imperial Soldiers → Meklord Army
 * Magnet Warriors → Magnet Warrior
 * Mainspring → Wind-Up
 * Majestic Mechs → Majestic Mech
 * Majestics → Majestic
 * Majus → Maju
 * Masked Hero → Masked HERO
 * Masked Heroes → Masked HERO
 * Masked Knights → Masked Knight
 * Masks → Mask
 * Match Winners → Match Winner
 * Meklord Armies → Meklord Army
 * Meklords → Meklord
 * Meta Hunters → Meta Hunter
 * Metal Counterparts → Metal counterpart
 * Mokey Mokey (series) → Mokey Mokey (archetype)
 * Monarchs → Monarch
 * Monster World Areas → Monster World Area
 * Morphtronics → Morphtronic
 * Moths → Moth
 * Motors → Motor
 * Mummies → Mummy
 * Mystic Swordsmen → Mystic Swordsman
 * Neo Flamvells → Neo Flamvell
 * Neo-Spacians → Neo-Spacian
 * Nordic Beasts → Nordic Beast
 * Nordics → Nordic
 * Ogre Grottos → Ogre Grotto
 * Ojamas → Ojama
 * Parshaths → Parshath
 * Penguins → Penguin
 * Phantom Beasts → Phantom Beast
 * Pharaoh Cards → Pharaoh card
 * Piece Golems → Piece Golem
 * Poker → Poker Knight
 * Poker Knights → Poker Knight
 * Princesses → Princess
 * Quiz Panels → Quiz Panel
 * Reactors → Reactor
 * Resonators → Resonator
 * RFP Psychics → RFP Psychic
 * Ritua → Gishki
 * Robos → Robo
 * Roid → Vehicroid
 * Roids → Vehicroid
 * Roses → Rose
 * Sabers → Saber
 * Sacred Beasts → Sacred Beast
 * Sacred Knights → Sacred Knight
 * Sad Stories → Sad Story
 * Sealed Beasts → Sealed Beast
 * Silent Magicians → Silent Magician
 * Silent Swordsmen → Silent Swordsman
 * Sky Scourges → Sky Scourge
 * Speed Spells → Speed Spell
 * Spheres → Sphere
 * Spiders → Spider
 * Spirit Messages → Spirit Message
 * Symphonic Warriors → Symphonic Warrior
 * Synchrons → Synchron
 * Synthetic Angels → Synthetic Angel
 * Tech Genus → T.G.
 * Temporal Machine Gods → Temporal Machine God
 * The Agents → The Agent
 * Toon Monsters → Toon Monster
 * Toys → Toy
 * Turbos → Turbo
 * Ultimate Insects → Ultimate Insect
 * Unicorns → Unicorn
 * V-HERO → Vision HERO
 * V-Heroes → Vision HERO
 * Vairon → Vylon
 * Valkyries → Valkyrie
 * Vampires → Vampire
 * Vehicroids → Vehicroid
 * Vision Hero → Vision HERO
 * Vision Heroes → Vision HERO
 * Volcanics → Volcanic
 * Wheels → Wheel
 * White Warriors → White Warrior
 * Wicked Gods → Wicked God
 * Worms → Worm
 * X-Sabers → X-Saber
 * XX-Sabers → XX-Saber
 * Yokai Monsters → Yokai Monster
 * Yomi
 * Zera
 * Zombie counterparts → Zombie counterpart
 * Zombie Counterparts → Zombie counterpart


 * There may be some pages that are still using "Machine Emperor", "Machine Emperors", "Meklords", "Machine Imperial Soldier" and "Machine Imperial Soldiers". The first three should now be "Meklord" and the last two should be "Meklord Army".
 * There's also a possibility that there are some pages still using OCG archetype names before the TCG names were confirmed. "Inverz" should be "Steelswarm", "Tech Genus" should be "T.G.", "Rituas"/"Ritua" should be "Gishki" and "Vairon"/Vairons" should be "Vylon". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:14, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * All right, I'll try to get started on this later today; in the meantime, list any others you think of/come across/rename. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:29, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * You got it. I should time to move some more pages tomorrow, assuming we do want go through with moving the rest of the pages. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:32, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's been several months now since this was started, and (as far as I know) not one person has posted a comment saying they think it shouldn't happen, much less providing any sort of argument as to why they might think that way. The people who were reverting the moves probably just didn't understand why the pages were being renamed. I'd say, start up again. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:45, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * When I said "Admin", I don't referring to Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikia's Admins, I am referring to one who was such to improve and flipping the wikia (general) sites. They are little lazy for not complete this part. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  18:03, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Aah, I see. A better term for Wikia employees would probably be "sysadmin" or "staff". ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:12, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yup, that's them. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  18:21, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Maybe it's time to take out the cheese out of his skull... He just took his name out of this article like a foolish! *shake my head in pitiful* -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:18, April 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ehh, maybe he just needs a bit of sleep... ;) It takes a lot of skill to be able to edit wikis when you're dead-tired and not make huge mistakes (of course, if Cheesedude *wasn't* tired, then I have no idea what caused him to slip up like that) (and yeah, I'm speaking from personal experience here). =D 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:08, April 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sure, let's go with that. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 12:07, April 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * ^@^ 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 15:46, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

It's Super Effective!-- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:01, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * *had some experience with Pokemon just now* Machoke, Sleep Powder!
 * Cheesedude is now sleep*


 * Heh. I hated Zubats myself... The little bastards, always using "Confusion"... =P 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:11, April 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * FredCat, I'm pretty damn sure Machoke can't learn Sleep Powder. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:09, April 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Then explain this; http://www.halolz.com/2010/11/28/machoke-used-pound/ (Had to put on nowiki to prevent the click-able) -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Someone decided to redirect "Masked Hero" to "Masked Hero". Now I cannot find the actual page content in the edit history anywhere. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 12:18, April 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Special:Undelete/Masked_Hero is it somewhere there? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:21, April 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Got it, thanks Falzar. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 12:24, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Done. All pages that are still at plurals are because their singular forms have actual pages, or because I thought the plural form made more sense in that case (Six Attributes, for example]]). Hopefully I didn't miss any. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:57, April 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry about those screw-ups and fixing the "Valkyrie" page. I did the same thing at "XX-Saber", but I think I fixed it. Not really sure what I did that caused that. Seems I somehow moved a page to the same name multiple times. <_< Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:17, April 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's possible you inadvertently double-clicked the "Rename page" button on the move page. I do that every once in a while with the "Publish"/"Save changes" button on edit screens, and thus edit-conflict myself. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:22, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox colours
We slightly touched on this before, but for a different reason. Would you be able to add more infobox colours? We currently only have two: grey (type-character) and blue (type-animanga) and use a number of different infoboxes. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:52, May 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't see any particular reason not to, but I'm not too good at picking good color schemes - do you have anything in mind?
 * More generally, I've never been particularly fond of the current system we have for infoboxes; the modularity is largely just added complexity considering our needs, and the lack of any sort of metatemplate means an inordinate amount of work, not just when creating new infoboxes, but even just when updating current ones. I'd like to replace our Infobox with Wikipedia's and start updating our templates to use it, and I could customize it some (both in how it works and how it's styled) if that's wanted. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:02, May 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * The primary and secondary colours at least. One dark and one light shade would be needed for each type-. If you did at least one or two to start with, it should be easy for anyone else to copy-paste and change colours.
 * Are you thinking of changing the appearance of the current infoboxes or just making the setup simpler? iBox is a series of metatemplates that can be used to make infoboxes like the current ones, but it's still different than the Wikipedia one. You can see examples of it being used on w:c:souleater:Template:Infobox/SoulEater/Episode and w:c:naruto:Template:Infobox/Jutsu. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:40, May 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I mean, any particular color systems for particular types of infoboxes. Beyong basic thematic elements, color schemes tend to be rather arbitrary, and if there's one thing I'm not good at, it's making up my mind in the absence of direction (as you can see from my ongoing template projects =D ). ;)
 * My proposal would change their appearance, yes, but we could always modify the styles (and, if necessary, Infobox itself) to get close to the current styles back, if that's what people would prefer. I've looked over the iBox templates a little bit, not enough to really understand how they look, but my impression thus far has been that they are somewhat more complicated than they need to be (but that may just be me). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:49, May 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Meh, the more I think about it, the better one colour for all infoboxes sounds. (Two is fine either.)
 * Would you like to create a sandbox example? -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:34, May 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Any such example would just be a copy of Wikipedia's infobox metatemplate. I could set up a sandbox example anyways if you're looking to experiment with the styles, though. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:33, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

? cards I listed all have "ス" in Jap "Kana". They're all pronounced as "S" not "TH"
I found two cards that have "su"(ス) in its name: "Clear Vice Dragon", "Neos"◄(ネオ(ス)), "Elemental Hero Plasma Vice"◄(マン= man), "Vice Berserker"◄(バイ(ス)), and "Vice Dragon". "su" is "s" not "th".--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 02:06, June 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * You can find quite a few more cards by sifting through a Google search for site:yugioh.wikia.com ス. And it isn't actually pronounced as "s", but as "su" (the only mora in Japanese that doesn't have a vowel sound would be ン, pronounced "n") - see ス. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 09:15, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Had to share this with someone
I just spent a half hour trying to figure out what I had screwed up when renaming some files at Card Gallery:Elemental HERO Thunder Giant, since two images were not showing up. Turns out the images weren't there to begin with, but someone put them there as placeholders. That worked fine when blank images displayed there, but now nothing displays. I am beyond pissed right now. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:53, June 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * No kidding; it really doesn't look at this point like Wikia is going to fix galleries not displaying placeholders for images that haven't been uploaded yet. =P 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:57, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * And the 'Add an image to this gallery' button is unnecessary. 1) (I think) it's the source of those resized images of the images we already have; then they are deleted 2) It doesn't display a notice; the Image Policy one at Special:Upload. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:04, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I noticed that button. With all these crap features, it's almost like Wikia is trying to get us to leave. =/ 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:06, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Aren't we allowed to edit the global js pages to hide or display minor things like these by default? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:09, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think we'd have to ask Wikia about that. I'd rather not get in trouble if it turns out to be like picture attribution back before they relented on that. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:37, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * You can add  to the   tag to surpress the button. I only see the button used by people who end up making a mess of the gallery. e.g. trying to add an English gallery by clicking the button in the Japanese gallery. They can learn a lot more from seeing the edit page source. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:52, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Is that something we have to do from now on, adding   to every gallery? Wilimut Talk Mail Paris, 11:57, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I certainly hope not. We should ask Wikia if we can suppress the button's display through CSS before running around and adding that to all the galleries (and with any luck, not only will they say "yes", but they'll have a way to shut the feature off for us server-side, so the button never even gets added to the page in the first place). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:17, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Synced pages
When you change any of the pages that are synced from Animepedia remember to list "yugioh" as an exclusion on the Animepedia version or make the changes there too if necessary. Otherwise AnimeBot could overwrite your changes in the future. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:29, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * All right, thanks for the pointer. I never remember that, so a reminder definitely helps. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:30, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Barely touched RFAs
Project:Requests for adminship/NOT FrogtheJam/1 and Project:Requests for adminship/BobaFett2/1 have been open for a while without much comments. Have you anything to add before they're closed? -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:55, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I have responded to BobaFett's, but didn't to Frog's, so thanks for draw my attention and I post my respond to latter's. I actually opposed to both, due to their bad experience (Boba's from early argue and fighting, Frog's under your state) -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:44, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Not likely (though I'll have a look in a minute just to be sure)... There was a reason I never participated in RFAs on Wikipedia; to be honest, it's not the type of work I enjoy and I'm not generally well-suited to it. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:51, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * At least just post your name in either Support or Oppose - it's not like it would bite you just for a pick. Comment really don't required there. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:57, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * RFAs aren't really something that can be handled with a simple "support"/"oppose", though; especially for "oppose" !votes, you should leave some reasoning wo the candidate understands why you're opposing (and, hopefully, is able to use it to improve as an editor). Sometimes I don't really have much trouble coming up with my own reasoning, but most of the time it's a struggle for me to find something to say that isn't simply a rehash of someone else's !vote. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:02, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see, but what up with "!" along the vote? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:03, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Another habit from my days on Wikipedia. Wikipedians (and, more generally, Wikimedians) subscribe to the philosophy that voting is evil, so stuff like RFAs and deletion discussions are not referred to as "votes". At the same time, though, "comment" doesn't really adequately describe when an editor supports or opposes in such discussions, so the terminology "!vote" came to be used instead - it is meant to be read "not vote" or "not-vote" (see also wikipedia:Wikipedia:Glossary). ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:42, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Quite an interesting way to slang the decline vote. Guess I would just stop pecking on your head for now, on this vote shit. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:48, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just to be clear, !vote is used to describe opposes and supports, not just one or the other. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:53, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh whatever... -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:54, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's okay. It just feels weird closing a request that I'm the only one to have commented on. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:58, June 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I don't blame you there. Maybe it'd help to advertise ongoing RFAs somehow? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:31, June 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Er, honor Admin... you're not only one anymore, as I was able to comment there. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  10:39, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hey
Check out my Talk Page, I had a thought and decided to change the "Notes", since of changed her own archive note. So I made two different Notes, one for action Talk Page and one for my Archived Articles. Just let me know what you think. If you see a problem, just let me know and I will try my best to get it fixing. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:03, June 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see, it's a nice way of keeping clutter down in a page's source. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:09, June 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Indeed, and do you think I should remove the Archive box above my box that held each "50" topics redirects? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:11, June 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * You mean the "Kitty's Other Comments" box that links to your archive pages? I don't see any reason to remove it, though if you want to, obviously you shouldn't let me stop you from doing so... ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:28, June 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I am referring to the first "yellow" box above my "Kitty's Other Comments" box... as it look like it's a yesterday news. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:45, June 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't see anything above the Other Comments box... are you talking about the "FredCat's Rules" box below it? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:48, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re:"Duplicated/superceded file"
Yeah I'm really sorry, I really thought it was the same set I didn't really check the numbers. I will do add the link from now. I'm really really sorry about that. Wilimut Talk Mail Paris, 16:22, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Archsupport in CardTable2
Could you add a sixth parameter for that? If a card supports all HEROes, it should be listed as such with "HERO" and all five sub-archetypes. I attempted to add it earlier today, but screwed it up in some way I can't figure out, then rollbacked by own edits. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:21, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * I saw that; you forgot a pair of opening braces (an easy enough mistake ;) ). Should be done now. =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:28, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Template problems
What happened to some templates? If you look at any card gallery, the box titles always indicate something like that: and on Set pages, the cover cards, set name etc doesn't work properly since a few hours. Wilimut Talk Mail Paris, 08:33, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * SMW and Negref are both down. I suspect I may have had a hand in this, as it follows from some extreme slowness the wiki experienced pretty much immediately after I made an edit to CardTable2 (I suspect I actually enjoy causing such trouble =D ). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:51, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Cat's Ruling Article(s) have been updating
I am making sure if you could understand my words in this article. Just to see if they are clearly enough. I just adapted them to nearly modern words... -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  10:12, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks reasonable to me. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:09, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Good to know that, and sorry for late respond. I sometimes wish that this site would just note me if someone respond to my topic, other than my talk page, that I have be updated. I got all my Ruling Articles updated already. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:56, June 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Heh, I use email notifications. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:41, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Template:CardTable2
Try to avoid using switches if at all possible please. Switches + SMW equal really, really bad performance that threatens the wiki and network health. Can what you wish to be done occur without switch statements? It looked like it was working fine with just ifs? --daNASCAT http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 20:56, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've been wondering how long it would take me to finally do something to get Wikia techs on my ass. =D I could replicate exactly what I was doing with #switches, using only #ifs, but it wouldn't be pretty. On the other hand, I'd have no problem for now, keeping to the older #if style until this problem can be fixed (and on that note, I'm curious as to just what unfortunate coding idiosyncrasy causes SMW being used in #switch outputs to cause fatal timeouts (is it some bug with SMW, ParserFunctions, or both? is it some weird PHP/MySQL thing? do I even have any idea what I'm talking about? =3 )). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:12, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * And, on a related note, now I know how to take down Wikia if I ever start feeling particularly sociopathic... >=D 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:28, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * The switch parameter I believe is counted as an "expensive" parser function where as if is not. By itself, it's not great but it's not bad either until you start throwing DPL/SMW/Data, etc., etc,. on top of it. Part of the issue is the way we're caching queries, which is something we're going to try experimenting with in a few weeks. --daNASCAT http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 14:55, June 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I never would have thought #switch would be considered an expensive function... Here's hoping the caching experiments pan out, then. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:05, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blank kanji parameter tracking?
Is there a way to create a tracking category for card pages that have a "kanji" parameter that is blank? There are several pages like that I created, and was unable to find the kanji anywhere. I didn't feel like sitting there and finding each individual character from another card page, so I left them blank. I'd like to be able to request that someone add the kanji in, but I'd like to do it all at once. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:08, June 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's easy enough to do. I've actually been thinking for a while about adding a tracking category for cards that don't have any Japanese name given at all; I think we'd be best with tracking categories for no Japanese name, blank "kanji", "kana", "jpname", and "phon" parameters, and a Japanese name but no romaji name (romaji name without Japanese name should be covered by the first one, I think). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:03, June 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * In addition to the name, can we have a tracking category for "japlore" as well? Blackwings0605 (talk) 06:39, June 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, definitely; that's one thing I've been intending to do for quite some time. I've never liked the parameter name, and intend to replace all instances of it with "jplore" (if no one beats me to it) and then remove it from CardTable2. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:23, June 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes. "jplore" is definitely make more sense than the "japlore". Blackwings0605 (talk) 07:40, June 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * That, and I've never liked the abbreviation "jap" for "Japan[ese]", considering it was an (albeit mild) derogatory term used during WWII (AFAIK; that's how it's always seemed to me, at least). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:45, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Crap have been out forever
Honestly, that made me laughing. I am surprise that no one capture it till you did. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:36, June 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * You'll have to forgive me for having no idea which edit you might be referring to... =/ 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:35, June 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * You know, ANPR card? When I came to see the Coffeedude's revive (undo van.) and saw your username just few edits before his, readed "ANPR have been out forever" in your summary. That's how I found it amuse. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  10:08, June 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Aah, you mean this edit... We really need to be able to automate the "Not Yet Released" value of the /  parameters, so that 80-some-odd cards don't have to be updated four different times (only three if the card is introduced in the set, and thus is created with "ocg = Not Yet Released", if the creator knows to add that) specifically for that purpose (all that being said, I don't see any good way to do so). 「 ダイノ ガイ  千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 15:41, June 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Indeed, that's what I laughed at, you're pretty good with timing and place a word. ^_^ -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:56, June 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, that's pretty tame compared to some of my edits; I love crafting situation-appropriate edit summaries for the lulz. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:50, June 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Indeed, you have a good control on your leach this time ^_^ -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:43, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Deleting revisions
Deleting and selective restoring pages can cause the number of page views to reset and can't be undone. I suppose it doesn't matter too much for less popular articles like that, but for articles with a high number of page views, it might be better to request a RevisionDelete. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:05, June 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Or better yet, to just campaign for it to be enabled on this wiki (unless, of course, that's exactly what you meant). Actually, we really ought to have it enabled here anyways. As for resetting page views... meh, does it really matter all that much? I'm not saying we shouldn't be at least a bit worried about it, but it won't stop me from deleting a page to remove some particularly egregious vandalism from its history. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:48, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Another tracking parameter question
Would it be possible to create one that lists pages that use any of the anime/manga appearances templates, but that do not have an associated Card Appearances page? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:37, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Not currently (it is possible, but would first require a modification to Card table anime and manga appearances). On the other hand, it *would* be trivial to do the same check for the anime/manga appearances parameters, though. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:34, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Would changing the template mean having to change it on every page again? As for the parameters themselves, that doesn't particularly help me, to be honest. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:57, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, it would just be adding an invisible bit to the output (some class name or something; I'll have to do a bit of thinking on what the best thing to add would be) that CardTable2 can then check for. I'll probably do this anyways, just so we can track pages with appearances parameters that don't use the templates yet. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:01, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Awesome. Let me know when you get around to it. No rush, though. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 06:06, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Grey Text
I am sure that he put it there just to be fair with all other "Dark Synchro" summon requirement. So that only "Number" monster can kill him, not original "Xyz" monsters. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:03, June 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't know who put it there, or what explanation may have been offered. I'm working through my email backlog, and the diff link I clicked for Volcasaurus gave me a diff that skipped 20+ intermediate changes, including the one where the coloring was added. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:14, June 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah well, I just give my logical of why it was there for. But I understand that you don't agree with it. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:22, June 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * See this, it also has grey sentence, so I think it's actually there just for Anime version only. As for OCG/TCG, they don't have that line, like "Dark Synchro" have transformed into Regular Synchro and keep their material/effect with slightly changes. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:54, June 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * I didn't say I don't agree with it, merely that I don't know who added it or what reasoning they may have offered. ;) I also knew already that it was an anime-only effect (though it's not quite analogous to Synchros vs. Dark Synchros). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:57, June 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, so may I revive that one you edited? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:00, June 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah. If I feel like it, I may investigate to see who added the coloring in the first place. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:02, June 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * This user have added the information of that line being grey in first place. Hope it helps. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:13, June 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * So it was 002517... Interesting. I may ask him for his reasoning later. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:18, June 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yea, good luck lecture him out. :-) -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:47, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Cardtable for another wiki
I dont usually visit here, but its something I've kinda needed for a while now.

While the wiki isn't quite as big as this one (Then again, most are'nt...), I have needed to experiment with changing the current table for a while now. While at times I have added new categories and such to it and expanded bits and pieces...I was never quite about to figure out how to force an image re-size on it.

While the wiki already uses a random assortment of images for card sizes...I try to get them around a certain area.

So basically my question was that if you had the time if you could take a look at Duel Masters CardTable2 and see if there was anything quick you would add to it.

Based on edits to the yu-gi-oh table, you seemed to be the guy to ask. Deltaneos had previously helped me to build the current table back in 08. Thanks for your time.Yami Michael (talk • contribs) 15:55, June 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey Yami Michael, I've actually seen that table before. ;)
 * The simplest way would be to change  to.
 * If, however, you want to cap the width at a certain value, you'll need somewhat more complicated code:.
 * And, if you want to catch bad values of "width", it gets a bit more complicated:  (in all this code, keep in mind that you'll be replacing "###" with the width you want as default).
 * Hope this helps, and feel free to ask if you don't understand something or need more help! =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:22, June 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ill obviously having to keep testing it on different types of cards, but as stands it right now, the first simple fix seems to be handling the cards, without them seeming too blurry/stretched. Thanks for the help, much appreciated. Yami Michael (talk • contribs) 17:31, June 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem. =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:38, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Bakugan card template?
I was wondering if you could possibly help with another card template?

Cheers, Abce2 | Talk  'Other things" 00:08, June 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Probably, but I need to know what you're wanting first. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:35, June 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry about the delay, there's a bit of dispute over what to put on it. Abce2 | Talk  'Other things" 01:03, June 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem, just hit me up when you get it sorted. =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:32, June 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * "um ... let's see ... we could have the card color, the attribute bonuses, the power level, the text on the card, and the card serial number" I'll fill you in on the one's you most likely don't know.
 * Card color: Red Blue or Green for the ability set, and Gold Bronze and Silver for the Gates.
 * Attribute bonuses: Six, name/color Pyrus/red, Aquos/blue, Subterra/Brown, Haos/White, Darkus/Blackish Purple, Ventus/Green.
 * Power level. 1-3.
 * Sorry if this is asking alot. Abce2 | Talk  'Other things" 01:25, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, and on http://bakugan.wikia.com/wiki/Bakugan_Wiki. Thanks. Abce2 | Talk  'Other things" 01:27, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Can you link me to any relevant discussion, and to some sample cards? Also, if someone could make a mockup of how you want the table to look, that would help a lot. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:07, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * http://bakugan.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Abce2/Card_Template_workings, Ability Card [], and Gate Card []. I don't think anyone has enough experience to make a sample, though, and I've merely dappled in it, as I've never really needed to used it. Sorry, Abce2 | Talk  'Other things" 02:24, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * All right, I'll see what I can do later (sometime in the next couple of days, I hope). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:40, July 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Abce2 | <font face="Verdana" color="#0099AA">Talk  <font face="Papyrus" color="#FFAA11">'Other things" 03:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm leaving tomorrow, so if you need anything, you should contact another admin. Cheers, <font face="Fantasy" color="#3366FF">Abce2 | <font face="Verdana" color="#0099AA">Talk  <font face="Papyrus" color="#FFAA11">'Other things" 19:56, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Just letting you know that I haven't forgotten about this; Real Life&trade; has conspired against me the past couple of weeks, though, and I've been unable to sit down for a few hours uninterrupted to work on it. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:32, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hi
Yo, man it's been like... forever. What's happening on wikia these days? Huajun Chen (talk • contribs) 15:35, June 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Same old same old, I suppose. =) TwoTailedFox reappeared recently after an almost two-year-long hiatus (almost, as in almost to-the-day o_O ), and Wikia is working on a new version of their visual editor... I'm not really sure what other info you might want to hear about, so if you have any specifics in mind, feel free to ask. =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:36, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Template:Rename and Template:Rename media
I can't remember if there was any significant reason why these were given separate templates, given they can easily be merged with an ifeq. Do you know of any reason or do you think we should merge them? -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:02, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Not really; you were the one who created them both, so I just assumed that you had a good reason for it. ;) As for the merge itself, it could pretty easily be done as you say, but it won't be terribly elegant (unless I'm not seeing just how you're suggesting it be done ;) ); this shouldn't keep us from doing the merge, though, since I can look at doing a more graceful code merge any time. =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:46, July 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * I was thinking  or is that the messy version you were thinking of? -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:25, July 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's the messy version I was thinking of. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:38, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

CardTable2 in appearances pages.
Since we have the anime/manga lore parameters open by default in card articles now, I'd like to go ahead and remove all the CardTable2 transclusions from the Card Appearances pages. Any way you can create a tracking category or do some other wiki magic I have no knowledge of to make a list? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:37, July 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Even better than editing CardTable2 and waiting for the job queue to clear: [ Special:WhatLinksHere] lets you filter by namespace. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:15, July 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Perfect. Then I have my new repetitive task to do in between editing that requires conscious thought. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:43, July 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem, happy to load you down with bot-style work help. =D 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:39, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

May or Mei
Do you have the issue of Shonen Jump that this chapter appears in? If so, can you check if this character's name is romanised May or Mei? -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:15, July 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes I do (should; it should be in the August '11 issue), and yes I can, though I'm not at home right now. -- as 208.124.90.208 (talk) 21:37, July 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's "Mei". =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:42, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Can we put the "Bandai" version of any card in a archetype it belongs to like "B. Skull Dragon (Bandai)" in "Red-Eyes" archetype 23:24, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks "Fredcat" I though I put 4 of " ~ " I don't think anyone is upset.--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 23:33, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, I just said it to be casual. So just watch to your fingers' move; ok? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:40, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I'm not sure whether we should or not (but if we do, we also need to do the same for Capsule Monsters, DDM, etc. versions of cards where they exist). None of these cards are playable in the current OCG/TCG, though, so I'm thinking probably not. Delt, do you have any thoughts (since I'm pretty sure you stalk my talk page ;) )? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:02, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh you and your petty sixth sense, Dino... -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:13, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * He doesn't have six scene; he's only guessing. How can stalk talk page? Anime-only cards are also listed in any related archetype even they aren't in OCG/TCG like "Masked Knight" series so we could do the same with other "Yu-Gi-Oh!" games like what you mentioned: "DDM" The only side ▼side to this is space like with the "HERO" series.


 * Pretty easily, actually; it's just a matter of watching others' talk pages and occasionally commenting on discussions that you're not otherwise a part of. ;)
 * Anime-only (as well as manga-only and video game-only) cards are listed as parts of archetypes because, other than a far looser ruleset (at least for the anime and manga), there isn't a difference between these media and the actual OCG/TCG anything like the difference between the OCG/TCG and the other card games such as Bandai; most OCG/TCG cards are, in fact, first introduced in the anime, manga, or a video game. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:55, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Indeed. At this point, this talk page and Delt's may as well be extensions of the forum. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:57, July 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * "Forum:Talk to Dinoguy1000 and Deltaneos"? =D 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:00, July 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * So can we put the Bandai, DDM, in the archetype their related to even if....--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 21:19, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm still leaning toward "no", but as I said above, I'm wanting to hear Delt's opinion first. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:40, July 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * I would also say no. I can't think of a compelling reason to put them in. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:56, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think Deltaneos is here or he might not reply to this.--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 20:38, July 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * I saw it. I just didn't have much to add when I first read it. Are there any archetypes within other games? There's "Hecate" in Bandai if that counts. It is possible to filter out other games when making list pages, but ideally if that can be avoided it should, because lighter SMW queries are less of a strain on Wikia's servers. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:06, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * lighter SMW queries?--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 02:08, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Lighter SMW queries are one which strain servers less. Generally the less filters, the lighter the query. e.g., which gets a list of all monsters with less than 3000 ATK has one item.  , which gets all monsters with less than 3000 and greater than 2000 ATK has two items and is considered to be a  heavier SMW query.
 * To the point, I've just noticed that Template:Archetype navbox has a section for Bandai cards. 'Thought I should mention it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:39, August 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * How many archetypes are there in the Bandai game (and are all of them documented here)? Since we've agreed not to add Bandai etc. cards to TCG/OCG archetypes, and since the Bandai game will never get new cards now, I think we might as well just use hardcoded navboxes for any Bandai archetypes, and remove that code from Archetype navbox. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:30, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Need a little Housekeeping done.
Contributer is User:Macdaddyc

He started uploading batches of images with the filenames being just a string of numbers. I have already marked those files to be Merged with the proper files but cannot do that part myself (Merge is just my suggestion, if you feel deletion is proper course of action then go for it) He also needs to be sent to the corner to review the Image Naming Policies as he was also editing the YS11 Gallery to point to those files which would make it significantly harder for someone to find the proper file to update to. (That has also been corrected.)


 * Additionally, This contributer has been around long enough to be more than aquainted with the image naming policies.


 * I originally was going to send this to User:Bluedog187 since he has dealt with this contributer in the past but I noticed he is currently inactive just in time.


 * BTW why does the system treat .jpg files as different from .JPG files (and I assume .png from .PNG)

Glittersword Talk • Contributions 00:16, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey Glittersword, it would be better to use Rename media or OCG-TCG card image when tagging images to be renamed (currently, none of the suggested names have the "File:" prefix, so it's a bit harder to check for existing images). I'll try to have a look at these in the next few days, if no one else gets to them first. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:09, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * That might be so but I believe with the merge option he would still have credit for his contribution. With rename it would say that the page is already existing and I would think it would overwrite the history. Sorry I didn't think about adding in the "File:" portion I assumed that would be taken care of automatically like when the files are created to begin with.  I will keep the OCG-TCG card image tag in mind in the future.  Although I might not have considered it applicable since it wasn't going FROM a OCG name but I see now how it would have worked.  Glittersword  Talk • Contributions 16:33, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Renaming files always keeps their history; if there's already a file uploaded with the suggested file name, though, both files have to be reviewed to see if one is a duplicate or higher-quality or what-have-you, rather than just blindly moving the tagged file over the original.
 * Merge is meant to be used only on articles and such, not files, so it doesn't have any functionality to add a "File:" prefix when used on files. I'll probably fix that, though, since there may well be legitimate cases for merging files...
 * The "OCG-TCG" is just meant to show that the template is used for both OCG and TCG cards; it's not meant to imply anything about moving OCG images to TCG names or anything of the sort. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:51, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for the clairfication, Would you mind giving me a bit of a walkthrough on how to make personal deck lists the proper way? I'm new to having an account although I have used YuGiOh wikia alot in the past.


 * Well, I don't do much with decks myself on here, but generally, you'll want to use Decklist for listing the cards in a deck; usage instructions can be found by following that link. If you're looking for opinions or improvement suggestions on decks, it's generally best to post them in Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Deck Help rather than your userspace. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:59, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Galleries
Hey there, nice to finally get to chat with you. Yeah your idea for streamlining the galleries with your design in your boilerplate would be wonderful. A question I have is how does it read in the info like card name, rarity, alt. name, etc. for the gallery. Would it read it from an existing list or from the card's specific page it self? Keep me informed on your progress! ^-^ Look234 (talk • contribs) 17:44, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

I was wondering if something would be possible.
Is there a way for the gallery page for a card to be auto-created by the system using the information on the main mage and kept updated by the system? Sort of like triggering a bot for the page creation that looks at the info on the main page to extrapolate the proper file names to be used. Glittersword Talk • Contributions 21:34, July 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, no, the Gallery extension doesn't work with wikimarkup in any way that would let us do so (and we currently don't put cards' set information into SMW properties, though that is definitely something I'm wanting to change). On the other hand, it may be possible to write a bot that could create Card Gallery pages, though that's well beyond my capabilities at this time. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:10, July 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * It just seems to that the more mundane and repetitive aspects that we can automate the better. It would make things more consistent and less error prone.  Sure some of the more COMPLICATED cards might need a little personal intervention after the fact (After all this game seems to be expanding in seven directions at once sometimes.) we need to get and keep the actual skeleton under tight control.  For example some gallery pages I know don't work anymore because they were created with an old Gallery format.  Gallery changed but weeding out all of those old galleries is going to be a pain by hand.  When we think they are all done one more will raise it's sneaky haid from out of its hidy-hole.    Glittersword  Talk • Contributions 15:55, July 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Believe me, I understand your reasoning for making the request; it's something I've thought about myself before. =) As I said above, though, with the way the software is currently designed, it would require a bot be programmed to do the work, and that is beyond my current skill level. =( 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:25, July 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Do we have anyone in-house with the skills or would we have to find someone from someplace like MediaWiki to help us?
 * Glittersword Talk • Contributions 16:00, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't know if any of our currently-active members have the necessary skills, but has historically run some fairly complicated bot tasks and is still active elsewhere on Wikia (and he does occasionally pop in here). 「 ダイノ ガイ  千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:44, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Missing page
"Armored Ninjitsu: Quick Teleport" has teleported off of the wiki. It was moved so many times that the actual card page appears to have vanished. Every variation of the name leads to redirect. I may just be missing the actual page, but I can't seem to find it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:41, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Which I found it oddly and amuse at same time, "Quick Teleport" just referring to it had been gone from this site. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  18:43, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually I found it. Nevermind. "Armored Ninjitsu Art: Quick Teleport". Once we get an actual page name, we need to fix the double redirects. But that may not happen yet, since there seems to be debate on whether its "Ninjitsu", "Ninjutsu" "Ninja Art", "Ninja Arts" or "Ninjitsu Art". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:45, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * All right, cool. Just for the record, Wiktionary claims ninjitsu to be a common misspelling of ninjutsu (this is supported by the romaji reading given on 忍術), and if translated separately, the kanji "忍" and "法" could indeed result in the phrase "ninja art(s)", though "ninjutsu" seems by far the more common rendering. "Ninjitsu art" is just repetitive, since "jutsu" translates to "art". 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:56, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Mispelling or not there are already two existing cards which use "Ninjitsu", which makes me think we should be use "Ninjitsu" for these anime cards as well. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:12, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * And there don't seem to be any which use "ninjutsu" in their names (though there's at least one that uses that spelling in its lore). I also note that the two cards you pointed out use the repetitive "ninjitsu art". That's a pretty compelling argument in favor of using "Ninjitsu Art", though there's always the possibility that Konami will decide not to continue the trend started by UDE. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:19, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I didn't even notice that part, actually. So then we should use "Ninjitsu Art" and use "Ninja Art" for the trans parameter. Also, keep in mind that per "Armored Ninjitsu Art: Gold Conversion", this is an archetype. Do the two existing Ninjitsu Art cards have the right kanji to be members? There's also no guarantee they'll release all these support cards. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:24, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sounds good to me (I was going to argue in favor of just using "Ninjutsu" in the trans parameter, but "Ninja Art" sounds better considering the two-part names we're working with).
 * Yep, even the furigana matches up (between the card names, at least; it isn't clear whether Gold Conversion's effect explicitly requires certain furigana). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:44, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * It seems that Master D originally moved the articles and came to the same conclusion about what the name should be as we did. So that's all done and I created the archetype page. On a related note, maybe you can help me with the "Armored Ninjas". When I created the card articles for them, I did not add them to the "Ninja" archetype, as their names did not appear to me to contain the right characters. Apparently someone else did. I think they ARE members, considering the effects of the some of the "Ninjitsu Art" cards Yamikawa played, but I cannot figure out WHY they are members based on the characters. I would like to have that information before creating the archetype page. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:34, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * "Ninja" support cards call for cards with the text "" in their Japanese card names, meaning the "Armored Ninja" monsters receive support from these cards and are therefore also part of the "Ninja" archetype (I can't say anything on whether their association with certain characters would or would not make them thematic members of the archetype, though). The "Ninjitsu Art" cards, on the other hand, are only "Ninja" support cards, because their names do not contain "". 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:12, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you. To clarify, I meant "Japanese text" when I said "characters". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:20, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem. ;) *wanders off to start a forum topic on Ruby text in card lores* 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:39, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Insane, drool, fake draw picture
Would you like to check this out? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:55, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * The image looks real enough to me (at least, I can't spot any jarring discrepancies, and the artwork is of the same quality as that of other cards and anime images)... Do you know for a fact it's a fan drawing? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:16, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thats' what I thought, and other user "LastMinute" or some odd name like that just post that picture in Gallery, so I take it as A-Okay! So for now, what about Shooting Q. Dragon? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:17, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, added it to the gallery (they do a lot of work with Card Galleries); that doesn't necessarily mean the picture is fine, but absent any reason to think otherwise, there's no reason not to use it. ;)
 * Shooting Quasar Dragon? What seems to be the problem there? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:43, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Try look at the history of the mentioned name and the one with rest of other JUMP copies, they both were revived by myself. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:46, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Falzar got that image. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:14, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you're talking about File:No 12 Armed Ninja - Crimson Shadow.png, then it's from http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/yugioh-zexal/
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:49, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's the one, thanks for identifying the source. =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:14, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * imo, it ought to be moved to a proper name; there are other images on that site that someone might want to upload as well. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:45, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, any admin can rename images. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:01, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * The thing is, there is no obvious suitable name. File:No12ArmedNinjaCrimsonShadow-JP-??????-NC.png -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:16, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I would say maybe "File:No12ArmedNinjaCrimsonShadow-JP-ZX-NC.png"? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:19, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Am I missing something here? How is there not a suitable name? It's a non-card image from the Japanese version of the ZEXAL anime. Since "No." is "Number:" in the TCG and we know that "Armed Ninja" is not correct, the file name should be "File:Number12ArmoredNinjaCrimsonShadow-JP-Anime-ZX-NC.png". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:37, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * The main idea was, that image was not shown in the actual anime, so it shouldn't have "-Anime". -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 04:57, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

One more thing - Unrelated to above discussion
I really do want to properly learn the ins and outs of this Wiki but there are so many pages that refer to previous pages and so on and so forth. Where would you suggest I begin studying? Glittersword Talk • Contributions 20:58, July 26, 2011''


 * Dude, please be sure to click four tildes before you kicked this page up. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:59, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I normally do. I am human, and I forgot. Sorry.  Glittersword  Talk • Contributions 17:00, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's a very large topic; I'm really not sure where to start on such a request. It'd help me a lot if you could point to a more specific area or topic you're wanting to learn about. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:21, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Read these. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:22, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Those don't help, I am talking about things like template pages that are full of – that are parsed by the system from other pages or by other pages.


 * For example from the GalleryHeader Template

<pre style="overflow: auto !important;"> ''({{ #if: {{{set|}}} | {{{set}}} | {{ #switch: {{{lang}}}


 * if I can't understand where everything is coming and going from I can not Manually Parse it to see really what it is saying.


 * I want to start at the deepest level and work my way up. I don't want to just play around and screw things up.  The problem is there are so many files and some are from other places like MediaWiki that to me it just looks like a rat's nest.  What is important?, what is critical? what pages are referencing obsolete remnants? I may only have the skills right now to do maintenance issues but that doesn't mean I don't WANT to learn more.


 * BTW: is there any way to mark out a line as a remark so it isn't parsed?


 * Glittersword Talk • Contributions 17:00, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, our templates take advantage of lots of really advanced functionality so that we can do some really nifty things with them. =)
 * First and foremost, keep in mind that you can play around to your heart's content on Project:Sandbox, Template:Sandbox (create it if you want to use it ;) ), and in your own userspace; edits made to these places won't have a direct impact on any other part of the site, so you can make whatever changes you'd like to help you get the hang of things.
 * Next, to do much good editing most of our templates, you'll need to understand at minimum how to use ParserFunctions. We also make very heavy use of StringFunctions and Semantic MediaWiki, and you should always keep a link to mw:Help:Magic words for reference.
 * This all, of course, assumes that you already have a reasonable grasp on how templates and transclusion work.
 * This is a lot to work through, I know, but don't give up, and don't think you have to know everything - I've been at this for almost 5 years, and there's still stuff that surprises me or that I have to look up (certainly with StringFunctions and SMW, which I didn't work with until I became really active here in 2009 or so (has it really been that long? o_O ), but also with ParserFunctions and even working with template parameters and transclusion). If you need help understanding something, just ask - there's no shame in it, and maybe in the process of helping you, I can learn something myself. =)
 * Now, about marking lines so they're not parsed: As you probably saw me do above, one way to do so is with the &lt;nowiki/> tag (the &lt;pre/> tag around it is just for presentation) - this prevents anything from being parsed, and can be used on individual characters or whole pages. Another method, which I used earlier in this paragraph, is to escape individual characters using HTML character entity references - e.g. to escape a "<" (less-than sign), you would write  in the page's source: "&lt;" (if you want to instead display the actual escape code, you replace the "&" with  : "&amp;" (and yes, this means you can end up with ridiculous chains of escape codes:   =D ))
 * After all this, if there's anything specific you need help with, just ask (yep, I already said that, but it never hurts to repeat yourself IMHO ;) ). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:18, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * (I was edit conflict'd, so some of this will be a repeat of what Dinoguy has already said.)
 * If you put  before the syntax and   after it, it won't get parsed. e.g.   displays as " {{PAGENAME}} ", not the name of the page.
 * If you want to get started on learning template stuff, there's a few basic things you can practice on your other wiki:
 * Adding  to a page will transclude (almost) everything from the page "Template:Example".
 * When you use, it will transclude Template:Example and replace every instance of " " with "Hello".
 * can be put in "Template:Example". If you use  on another page it will display as 'Text to display if "x=something" is used' since "x=something" was used. If you use   or   it will display as 'Text to display if x is empty or unused', since x was empty or unused.
 * I'm not very good at explaining stuff to people who are totally new to it, so you can see mw:Help:Templates and mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions for hopefully better explanations and more information. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:35, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

SMW off for a while
When a number of infobox templates were changed on the site a few hours ago, it flooded the caches on our network and caused massive load issues. I have turned off SMW on the site for at least the next 18 hours to let it sync back up correctly. I would highly recommend you make any further changes - either adding on or rolling back - to infoboxes now because it will avoid further issues tomorrow. --daNASCAT http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 21:01, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Are you sure it was edits to infobox templates, and that it was on this wiki that the edits occurred? Looking at Special:RecentChanges, the only infobox edits in the past week I'm seeing are the ones I just got done making (I started these after SMW was shut off, apparently, given that I was no longer getting timeouts on previews/saves, but I didn't actually see your comment until now - how's that for serendipity? =D ). On the other hand, I could see my earlier edits to Unofficial name/category being enough to flood the caches, but I was experiencing timeouts before then as well. The only other possibility I can think of, then, would be that my edits to CardTable2 a couple of days ago are the real, underlying cause, unless this was indeed actually caused by edits on another wiki.
 * All that said, thanks for the heads-up! =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:38, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've moved both branches of this conversation to daNASCAT's talk page. It's probably more convenient for him if we continue the discussion there. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:48, July 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Cool, I probably should have done as much myself. =D 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:50, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

ergent news
Someone took out archetypes. If you go to http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Power etc. you don't...--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 00:59, July 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's because SMW was shut off. The archetype navboxes should be back up sometime later today/tomorrow (depending on your time zone). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:58, July 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's still not there.--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 19:51, July 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Nope. DaNASCAT said that he'd try to get it re-enabled for us by yesterday, but that evidently didn't pan out. All we can do is wait for further messages from him, or for SMW to just start working again. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 20:07, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I think it'll take a long time to turn on the archetype. Is yours on?--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 23:14, August 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, SMW is still down. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:16, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Boilerplate
Kind of yeah, I like this aesthetic and I love when every pages are identical! Wilimut Talk Mail Paris, 03:10, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Action 5
Can you check out the funny thing with "Action" link in "Super Polymerization"? I put it in and it bring out red link. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:24, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * It was also a redlink in Aged Goblin's edit. The page simply hasn't been created yet. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:30, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * So may I create it? Or you think it's just ridiculous to be there? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:33, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think it would be better to have "Sends from [the/your/your opponent's] field to the owner's Graveyard" (or even possibly just omit "owner's"), since cards always go to their owner's Graveyard upon being destroyed, sent to the Graveyard, etc. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:38, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Which is referring to Action 1, right? It had no limitation of which going where. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:40, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, it would refer to "action3" and "action4" - "Sends from your field to your Graveyard" should be "Sends from your field to Graveyard", and "Sends from your opponent's field to your opponent's Graveyard" should be "Sends from your opponent's field to Graveyard". As I said, cards that go to the Graveyard are placed in their owner's Graveyard, so specifying the target Graveyard would just mean four different actions, which would always have to be used together. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:55, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, should scratch "your" word out of those two. Let's hit them up. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:56, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * That article is would only apply to anime cards. There are zero situations in the TCG where this would happen. Also, the few anime cards that would have that effect have been released without it already, so that parameter is completely uneeded. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:05, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Royal Cards
I am surprise that it still living with speedy delete mark you left like 2-3 months ago. I am curious why you considered it delete, though I edit it later on. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  10:55, August 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * I really just tagged it in response to Furuzuki's message on the talk page... I think, ultimately, what happens to it should be determined by the outcome of Forum:Archetype definition (again). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 15:59, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

*CRASHED*
* unmounted my rocket ship* Sorry about broke the wall here - I have to invite you to the Forum - Massive Mult-Idea and tell our good, French, friend about what he thought for rest of "Main Article" of the cards. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  18:58, August 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Looking at it now. =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:32, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

"Relationship"
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/relationship :( I know that it sound oddly by the first look, but I meant... why does Yusei have a "relationship" with Jack if they don't... well, you know? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  13:15, August 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * The first definition is the one you need to be paying attention to here: "a connection, association, or involvement". ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 13:17, August 7, 2011 (UTC)