Talk:Signer Dragon

Earth Attribute on the Fifth Dragon
That's only conjecture, could whoever the person who's changing it is, please stop. Burnpsy 18:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Red Dragon quote
In Jack's quote, why "Red Dragon Archfiend" is writen and not "Red Daemon's Dragon"? It's supposed to be translated from Japanese with the Japanese ORIGINAL NAMES. Diehard Guy 14:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Do you mean in the sub translations or the site? Either way this wikia is for the English TCG; so of course the card names and "english" translations would equal that of the TCG/DUB.KiraxFreedom 09:51, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You misunderstood me. If they are translated, so they are soppuse to use Japanese names. Diehard Guy 19:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Apparently, the word "Daemon" or "Demon" is too harsh for English audiences. 76.233.103.25 03:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Every cool name is too harsh for English audiences :( Diehard Guy 05:43, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Daemon's definition in the dictionary does translate, however, to " a god or deity" Take Flight My Very Own Soul! Star Daemon Dragon! 19:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Summoning Chants
Since Summoning Chants aren't exclusive to these Dragons, seeing as Yusei has receited them for his other Synchro Monsters, should they really be noted on this page? -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:19, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I think we should make a new page for that OR making another section in this page. Also, we can put it in it's owner's/appearance page. Diehard Guy

Last Dragon's Attribute
It can be also a WATER dragon. Those things happens, for example: Black Rose Dragon sounds like an EARTH monster but it is FIRE. Diehard Guy 12:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It does seem more likely to be EARTH than WATER. But yeah, I agree we shouldn't mention that it appears to be EARTH. It's too speculationy. And we don't know for sure that they'll all have different Attributes. (If we want to be really strict about it, we don't know that the guy in the ending is the fifth) -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Power Tool Dragon
According to Janime it looks like this is the last dragon. Thus it appears I don't know though, that there stating it due to the pic shown at the very beginning from the ending song. Thus as all recall that scene been where the Five Dragon cards are shown along with Power Tool Dragon card.


 * Look at it's type. It has "Dragon" ONLY IN IT'S NAME. It's a machine. Also, it apears in the ending because Rua is an important character and Power Tool Dragon is his ace card. Diehard Guy 08:46, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You never know, there's a possibility that Rua is a Signer. Till it is revealed, it's safe to assume that Power Tool Dragon is one of the Five Dragons as no other hinters have been revealed about the last Signer. If Ruka is a Signer, why can Rua not be one? Besides if it turns out he isn't, then I would guess that one of the Dark Signers turn good.KiraxFreedom 09:54, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I looked at the pic that I uploaded (Five Dragon's pic) and I saw that PTD is too different from the last dragon. I took the pic from the ed (It's not made-up) Diehard Guy 10:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You mean it's safe to print a guess as fact because it hasn't been proven wrong? If that's the case, why not make a prediction for the series end and leave that go as fact, until we know for sure? Besides it's more likely the unknown guy in this image is the last Dragon. (although "Power Tool Dragon" does look ike a mechanical version of him.) And there's still people who think Goodwin or Crow is the fifth Signer. We're not mentioning what the fifth dragon or who the fifth Signer until we're told. We get enough people calling this site unreliable as it is. -- Deltaneos (talk) 10:59, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * No! I ment that we should not write PTD as a dragon untill it will be 100% right! Diehard Guy 11:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with you. My last message was directed at KiraxFreedom. I started typing it before you'd posted your pevious comment. (That's why I used the same number of colons : as yours. To show it was a sub comment of Kira's message, but not yours.) -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Rua is most certainly not a Signer, otherwise Akutsu would've gotten a reading from him during the duel with Bommer. KazilDarkeye 12:55, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The same goes to Rex Godwin. Diehard Guy 12:57, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't use that as proof, since being a Signer isn't enough to trigger the D-Sensor. They have to be in contact with their Dragon, while fighting with a great deal of determination. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:04, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Well so gonna have to wait to confirmation, however this might interesting what I saw on Yugioh Shriek website. Apparently the next booster following after Crimson Crisis will be called Raging Battle and this new Synchro Dragon will be the cover card.


 * Maybe you should write "Synchro Machine that has Dragon in it's name" instead of "Synchro Dragon". It's a machine. Check it by yourself here. Go also to random dragon and check it's type. It's not says: ドラゴン And I know why people are getting confused. It's because it's name and it's appearance in the op/ed. Diehard Guy 16:34, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * K, still as a final statement lets see if this the last Dragon then. User:DracoX

idk but I beleive that PTD is special in some way: It looks similar to the 5th dragon ( it even has a mechanical sting and the real real has a real sting[btw, the 5th dragon looks very insect-like]), and the way that PTD was staring at Rua in oe of the past episodes make me think that it is alive.

Is it possible to put an edit lock on the trivia section of Power Tool Dragon, since people keep updating it as the mechanized version of the 5th Dragon, when there's no confirmation of this? Kojikatsuya 17:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)Kojikatsuya

Seriously
Just by looking at the picture on Mark of the Dragon you can tell that Lua isn't the fifth signer because the head arm is too big for him (Yusei's arm as the right skin tone, Jack's and Akiza's you need to take on a small dose of faith and Luca's is tiny since she's just a kid and left arm with the head is normal sized) PTD may look similar and there probably is a reason for that Blackstone Dresden 04:31, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Still just because of that doesn't mean anything neither. Look at Luna even if she's just a little girl. She bears the Claw that adjusts to her arm which obsviuosly will grow into just like Akiza's. If there's the possibility that he's given the Dragon head then it will adjust to his arm and be still a small shaped dragon head. DracoX 06:33, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * What I'm saying is that the owner of the head birthmark is currently around Yusei's height or else the arm would be the same length as Luca's Blackstone Dresden 23:54, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The Fifth Dragon
I was browsing and noticed no one has noticed the same thing I have.

Wouldn't you agree the fifth dragon looks insectoid in nature? If it was to be insect based, it would most likely be EARTH-Attribute.. And we do know of one insect duelist in 5D's, but I doubt he'd be the signer.

Also notice that the Dark Signer's symbol is a spider, arguably an insect. A connection there, perhaps? (User:Yestermorrow)


 * I really don't think that Uryu is a Signer,nor do I think that Goodwin is a Signer either. Nidzajojo


 * Spiders are NOT insects. By the way, BRD is FIRE althrough it sounds like and look like EARTH. So don't bet that it is EARTH - It may be WATER. Also we are not sure that all the five dragons have different attribute so it can be WIND/DARK/LIGHT or others. Diehard Guy 09:22, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, in Yu-Gi-Oh at least, Spiders do count as insect cards (Hunter Spider, Jurai Gumo) KazilDarkeye 19:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 0.0 It's kind of sad that the writers/Konami never learned biology. Diehard Guy 19:58, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

With todays episode now we got a better look at the final dragon. And also with it looks nothing like PTD. User:DracoX


 * -.- actually, it does. The head looks almost exactly the same, and it has armor-like things on its hands, like PTD. so HA! TeardropStar 09:24, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Could the last Signer dragon name, be "Power Absolute Dragon"? User:DracoX
 * It could be it, but I prefer "Absolute Power Dragon". And it can be "Gold Scale Dragon" Diehard Guy 15:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Well the first one would be good but the second name not that original.

It does look really insecty (is this even a word ^_^). Has anyone else noticed insects getting tiny (normally around 2 - 4 cards) ammounts of support in recent sets Pinkyboy 19:20, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I have a theory: I was thinking that maybe Kiryu is the fifth Signer. He played a Fiend deck before he was arrested, and the fifth Signer Dragon looks pretty Fiendish to me. They said that Goodwin has the fifth Signer's severed arm is his possesion, so maybe Kiryu lost his arm in prison. And when he was executed, survived and became a Dark Signer, maybe his Dark Mark is blocking out the power of his Mark of the Dragon?

Of course, this is just speculation. It was just a theory. . . Rogueduelist89 00:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

still not good because it wouldnt make sense that only 4 Signers against 5 dark signers its has to be equal. And they say that soon the last signer will be revealed but who knows if thats true. Still lets see more episodes to see or more exactly episode 42 to find out. DracoX 03:23, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Last Signer and hidden 5th Dragon
To me Rua is not a signer at all. but I'm pretty sure they won't announce the 5th signer until the end of 2nd season, I strongly feel that a Dark Signer who's name is Kyousuke(one of the former friends of Yusei and Jack back in satellite) could be the last Signer, I suppose it goes like Evil-turns-good, and he must have had a hidden 5th dragon card. Probably he never used it until his last good old days in satellite and later changed to Dark Signer for some unknown reason. But still has his dragon card....hidden. So he might become the last Signer and gains dragon's head mark on his arm, if the other dittached arm in the container that Godwin hidden gets destroyed by accident.


 * He does have a dragon. But it's a Dark Synchro through. It's called "One-Hundred Eyes Dragon". It seen a lot at "Last Train" - the second op. Diehard Guy 11:46, 24 October 2008 (UTC).

Doubt that he would became one, as the battle between the Signers and the Dark Signers has to be equal. I mean it woudln't make sense any sense for them who ayre 4 to be battling against the 5 of them. Has to be equal battle as seen on episode 30 the Five Dragons fighting against five evil gods. Still who knows anything can happen. User:DracoX

They are supposed to reveal the final singer and dragon in 42. Horrible time to reveal him, but that's when it's gonna happen. --Mr.Archfreak 02:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

They probably do that for some reason i think. DracoX 03:00, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll be the first to admit that I don't know much of this show as I've only seen the few dubbed episodes, but I've been thinking three things point to Kyosuke Kiryu being the Fifth Signer. heres why I think so.
 * He knows 2 of the other signers
 * All 4 dragons so far are Dragon/Syncro monsters and he has dark syncro dragon in his deck.
 * Third, Kiryu was CHANGED INTO a dark signer so whose to say that One-Hundred Eye Dragon isnt a corrupted fifth dragon. MajesticGladiator 06:18, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I can tell you have only watched a few epesiodes. The signer are chosen by crimson dragon.the d signer are chosen by the earthbounds. it doesnt make any sense for earthbound gods and the crimson dragon to pick the same person.


 * Actually, it kinda does. Think about it, if the head Earthbound God wanted the Crimson Dragon to lose, wouldn't it make sense for said God to turn a Signer to his side in order to tip the scales in his/her/its favor? Blackstone Dresden 22:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Glad to see im not alone in noticeing the possibility(nothing against the other guy). Any way ill b keeping an eye on things to c if im rite or not. MajesticGladiator 00:15, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually I'm pretty sure there's no way in hell Kiryu's the 5th Signer. He may have been Plan A, then he went to the path of the Dark Signers so Crimson moved on to Plan B, who either a. got his arm amputated or b. is somehow in stasis so then Crimson may have then moved onto Plan C, the possible third fifth signer. Basically the head and his dragon are cursed in my opinion.

Last Dragon's Level?

 * I just noticed something....
 * BRD's and AFD's level are 7 and their owners are female.
 * PTD's level is 7 and his owner have a femanine appearance.
 * RDD's and SdD's level are 8 and their owners are male.

Sense the arm is pretty male-ish, could it be that the last Dragon's level is 8? Diehard Guy 13:19, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually since the 5th Dragon is the "Head" Dragon, wouldn't it make sense that he/it would be level 9 to "outrank" the other four? Blackstone Dresden 21:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

well the guy u talket about is a dark signer. you can watch it in japan and its 2 eposodes away from next seson. eny qwestions aim me at.......rainthunderovame.....

Signer Speeches
Akiza,Yusei,And Jack Have Speeches For Summoning Thier Dragon, So In Episode #36 Leo Would Have Said Somthing. Luna Only Hasn't Said Something Because She's Never Actually Summoned Ancient Fairy Dragon

Actually, Rua does have a Synchro Summon speech:
 * Romaji: Sekai no heiwa o mamoru tame, yuuki to chikara o dokkingu! Shinkuro Shoukan! Ai to seigi no shisha, Pawā Tsūru Doragon!
 * Translation: Docking strength with courage to protect world peace! Synchro Summon! Envoy of love and justice, Power Tool Dragon!