Forum:September 2010 ban list prediction

FORBIDDEN LIMITED
 * 1) Rescue Cat
 * 2) Dark Armed Dragon - allows the player to gain too much card advantage
 * 3) Magical Android
 * 1) Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier (for Infernitys only in the OCG, but idk all Infernitys need is one)(OCG WTF I THOUGHT THIS WAS FOR TCG)
 * 2) Infernity Launcher(Super broken, makes infernitys way too overpowered)
 * 3) XX-Saber Dark Soul(Super broken for X sabers, only in the TCG this is what makes X sabers super fast)
 * 4) Battle Fader (an OTK/FTK stopper like trago and gorz, there's a trend..)
 * 5) Substitoad(slows frogs down, I think this card is the core of frogs other than ronintoadin)
 * 6) Magician of Faith (this was never broken, I think it's about time it was limited)
 * 7) Dandylion (Quickdraw + this card = back to being limited)
 * 8) Rekindling(flamvells are getting stronger..)

SEMI-LIMITED'' UNLIMITED
 * 1)  XX-Saber Faultroll (either this should be limited, or semi idk)
 * 2) Mezuki (zombies aren't powerful now, but with Mezuki being semi it gives it more balance)
 * 3) Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner (Lightsworn should come back with JD in GS3, with this it gives LS more balance)
 * 4) Destiny Draw (they need to bring this back, it needs to be a draw engine again)
 * 5) Elemental Hero Stratos (Elemental Heroes need big support without the destiny engine)
 * 6) Infernity beetle (same reason why them limited d-hero malacious)
 * 1)  Gold Sarcophagus (it's getting reprinted in DREV-SE so this is how Konami gonna make money)
 * 2) Skill Drain (people usually just use 2, no point in semi-limiting)
 * 3) Royal Decree (I think Konami was high when they semi this)
 * 4) Royal Oppression (is powerful, but doesn't make sense that they semi limited this.  They make money with this card with all the Special Summon these days
 * 5) Blackwing - Gale the whirlwind (Kills stardust with all the Starlight road around)
 * 6) Black Whirlwind (Too Easy to be destroyed)
 * 7) Heavy Storm (No fear, starlight road is here!)
 * 8) Heavy Storm (No fear, starlight road is here!)
 * 9) Dark Dive Bomber (I am sure many people like it a lot ^^)
 * 10)  Black Luster Soldier Envoy of the Beginning (It is just too awesome)
 * 11)  Chaos Emperor Dragon Envoy of the End ( Same reason as above)
 * 12) Last Will
 * 13) Raigeki (Rape Frogs)
 * 14) Dark Hole (Rape Frogs toooo)

Maybes
 * 1) Caius, the Shadown Monarch (limited, semi) a lot of builds with this card
 * 2) Blackwhirl Wind (limited) to kill blackwings off completely    (<-whoever wrote this is completely stupid)
 * 3) Dark Grepher (limited) idk maybe it's just me

I gotta say i'm not hating this, and My infernity deck only uses 2 launchers anyways, i can make do with 1 and a couple transmygration prophecies Shadowfox337 (talk • contribs) 10:44, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Not bad at all
But it's not very logical to say "people only run it at two, so no point in semi anyway" because that's the reason a lot of people only run two. The point in semi-ing Royal Oppression, Skill Drain and Royal Decree is that anyone can abuse these cards by running 3 of them and making a deck based around it. Most Infernity decks run almost NO TRAPS, sometimes none, and if they only ran Royal Decree everyone's life would be hell. In almost any anti-version of any deck, Royal Oppression is so versatile it can shut ANYTHING down, so it's too powerful to let people abuse it by running 3. Also, letting people run 3 of it is hardly going to let Konami make more money, and that's also not a good reason for not limiting or semi-limiting something. This is also your reasoning for unlimiting Gold Sarcophagus, which should be limited just by it's nature of being a PERFECT SEARCHER. It's not broken, it should just be limited. That's essentially all I have to say about it. Nice list though.

Are you high? Infernity decks run a god damn BUTT-LOAD of traps.

Oh I forgot Mezuki. He needs to be limited because he brings his copy back too easily. With people running Burial from a Different Dimension, it become way too fast. It'd be broken. NecrofearNorleras (talk • contribs) 18:09, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

What the? "Infernity decks don't run traps?" WHAT THE HELL??? I WISH!!

Yeah, seriously. Triple dust tornado, Triple Barrier, and some builds even run triple reckless greed. wtf...? u high?

NOT TOO BAD
Hitting battle fader is bad it's not as powerful as gorz or trag since it can be stopped by oppression also it doesn't drop 2700 or 3000 beaters depending on when it's played

Magician of Faith will not come back because there are too many powerful spells that can be replayed running this plus transmigration prophecy is like running 3 infernity launchers again

DarkSoul will not be hit because we mostly copy off of the OCG list and they won't put it to 1 just 2 konami still has to make money off of this game

Dandylion is only used in Dandywarrior and plant decks and neither of them is doing any good so it should stay at 2

Stratos is goin to stay at one unless they change it so it can't search itself but isn't a 1800 gadget bad

Royal Oppression Royal Decree and Skill Drain should stay at 2 not good at 3

The Maybe's aren't good u don't want to kill an entire deck just weaken it black whirlwind at 2 is good and most people only run 2 caius anyway unless it's frognarchs

GE-call Banned??
The list isn't too bad, but why the hell would you ban Gottoms e-call?? Ban Rescue Cat, Cold Wave or Brain Control or something. Those are broken cards. Where is the Herald hate btw?

And the maybe's are Morons thoughts. It's not because Caius is seeing more play (frog monarch), that it is becoming anything near broken. Black Whirlwind at 1 WILL completely deplete Blackwings. They aren't even tier 1 at the moment. And Grepher? What about him, haven't seen him in ages.

My List
FORBIDDEN:


 * 1) Rescue Cat
 * 2) Mass Driver
 * 3) Temple of the Kings

LIMITED:


 * 1) Gottom's Emergency Call
 * 2) Mist Wurm
 * 3) Black Whirlwind
 * 4) Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
 * 5) Infernity Launcher
 * 6) Substitoad
 * 7) Rekindling
 * 8) Elemental Hero Absolute Zero
 * 9) Infernity Archfiend
 * 10) Magician of Faith

SEMI-LIMITED:


 * 1) Infernity Mirage
 * 2) Dark Grepher
 * 3) Destiny Draw
 * 4) Elemental Hero Stratos
 * 5) Machina Fortress
 * 6) Foolish Burial
 * 7) Dark Eruption

I think this cards must stay in Unlimited:


 * 1) Dandylion
 * 2) Battle Fader

well im looking for that list from now and i must say in 9/10 pages i saw the follow card are in this order BANNED


 * dark armed dragon
 * judgement dragon
 * rescue cat (only in a few pages the probabilities are 1/10)

LIMITED


 * dandylion
 * trisula
 * stardust dragon (but only 5/10 say the same thing)
 * Eh, most pople just run one Stardust in their Extra Deck, due to Extra Deck space limits. Unless you speak of StarBuster Decks...
 * black whirlwind
 * and few of new card called
 * Book of the month
 * Oh man, this is one hilarious mistranslation of Book of Moon.
 * Greedy humble jar
 * See just above, apply to Pot of Duality.

SEMILIMITED


 * solar recharge
 * lumina
 * destiny draw
 * dimencional prision

well thats is a card list maded by japoness people in some important pages
 * My comments spliced into your list. Hope you don't mind. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 07:50, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

= Banlist Prediction =

Forbidden
 * Rescue Cat
 * Necroface
 * Temple of the Kings(TCG)

Limited
 * Dandylion
 * Drill Warrior
 * Infernity Launcher
 * Machina Gearframe
 * Pot of Duality
 * Swap Frog
 * Battle Fader
 * Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
 * Infernity Archfiend
 * Black Whirlwind

Semi-Limited
 * Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner
 * Machina Fortress
 * Gladiator Beast Bestiari
 * Destiny Draw
 * Dimensional Prison

Unlimited
 * Magical Stone Excavation

Jampong (talk • contribs) 05:24, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I hope that Black Whirlwind isnt hit cause thats unfair. 2 is bad enough. Blackwings arent even tier 1 any more and whirlwind at one kills them off.--Melsarceus493 (talk • contribs) 13:59, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

-After Black Whirlwind, Gateway of the Six will be next.

Jampong (talk • contribs) 14:07, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

My idea
Limited

(why did they unlimit those last 2 in the first place)
 * treeborn frog
 * ally of justice catastor
 * infernity launcher
 * breaker the magical warrior
 * dd warrior lady
 * overdrive teleporter
 * magician of faith
 * mask of darkness
 * destiny hero disk commander

Semi
 * book of life
 * mystical space typhoon
 * mezuki
 * lumina lightsworn summoner
 * necroface
 * drill warrior
 * battle fader
 * blackwing vayu the emblem of honor

unlimited
 * black whirlwind

Eh, I think it will be better to critique the lists if people state their reasons why the cards will take hits or move down the list. Maybe better if they read this thread first. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 07:50, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I feel most people need to read that page. A lot of these predictions are a bit unreasonable. People don't see the core of the card, and its limits. Like now; I have a number of reasons why some cards on second last banlist prediction won't come true:
 * Machina Gearframe? Seriously, people look too much at the searchers and not the big guys. I'm sure I speak for very few people here (as banlist predictions ALWAYS compare these two monsters like this guy is nearly as broken), but he is NOTHING compared to Elemental hero Stratos. Hit the Gadgets and Fortress.
 * Battle Fader? NOOOOOOOOOOOO. Seriously? Do people not compare today? I am really getting tired of people putting Battle Fader on there list. I'm not even going to state a reason, you should look up why.
 * Swap Frog? Only needs to be Semi'd if Substitoad/WHEN Substitoad goes Limited.
 * Lumina??? You mean so there can be 2 on the field? Because that would be just fantastic! With all that epic swarming...........that Konami will not allow.
 * Gladiator Beast Bestiari? The hell? You want to lighten up on the Glads even more? Yeah, no.
 * Magical Stone Excavation? So people can discard there needed-dumped Infernities AND get back Infernity Gun for ANOTHER round of instant Synchroing?
 * Gateway? It's possible, but it won't be next; not until Six Sams make it in the meta, which I actually think is possible. I don't know, we'll have to see what Storm Of Ragnarok brings us.---Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 14:43, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

813. NOOOOOOO
 * 1. Read the Card
 * 2. Maybe, but it's easily crushed by DARKs anyway, and a big target for destruction
 * 3. Hell yeah
 * 4. No.
 * 5. Limit D.D. Assailant, if anything, not this card.
 * 6. Psychics aren't even in the meta....
 * 7. Maybe
 * 8. This was just unlimited, why limit it?
 * 9. NO
 * 10. Possibly
 * 11. NOOOOOOOO
 * 12. Perhaps
 * 14. NOOOOO
 * 15. reasonable
 * 16. what the...?
 * 17. What?
 * 18. ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?????

--Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk) 18:02, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

this guy clearly plays blackwings. its annoying when you see people put up their predictions with their thoughts only based on the wellbeing of their deck. the metagame is getting very very off balance, ever since the release of synchros, decks have been growing more and more out of control and more and more powerful cards have been created. what is important is to figure out how to keep cards under control again65.123.148.34 (talk) 01:00, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Have you noticed he left off Blackwings' BEST CARD? Anyway, they're just cards. It's the people that hold them that are...out of control. The list is what keeps the cards under control. --Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk) 02:52, August 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sadly enough, it's true. It seems like some people in the game are hellbent on trying to make a card broken... I swear, if they even find a way to make Key Mace broken, I'm going to laugh, get into a mental hospital, come out, laugh again, and quit. All in one week. XD Raining Stars (talk • contribs) 05:32, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, he's just another one of the idiots that fail at seeing broken cards. CLEARLY plays Blackwings.--- 05:25, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Put Kitty to Sleep
Banned:

Rescue Cat Mass Driver Cathedral of Nobles Cold Wave (Just spit balling on this one, you guys decide)

Limited:

Royal Oppression Dandylion Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier Infernity Launcher Substitoad

Semi-Limited:

Gladiator Beast Bestiari Machina Gearframe Machina Fortress Destiny Draw Mezuki Book of Life Blackwing - Vayu the Emblem of Honor

It's a decent list. No Gearframe though, more like the Fortress and the Gadgets. Don't change Bestiari, I don't think Galds need more help. Yeah, not Cold Wave if(WHEN) Rescue Cat's gone.--- Yugioh DED ( talk  •  contribs ) 07:23, August 13, 2010 (UTC)