Forum:March 2010 ban list ideas

what kinds of things would be limited or banned march 2010. cards like honest, judgement dragon and so forth?

what if?
If honest will be limited..how about bf-shadow kalut?.. judgement dragon or lightsworn lumina might be limited.Because judgment dragon is a very destructive card against other cards n lumina can make the lightsworn to swarm very fast.Lumina also can special summon lightsworn wulf which have very high atk.

Ring of destruction will become limited.

Oh please limit Kalut, I truly hate kalut, I despise it (or at least semi-limit it). Also they should limit Charge of the Light Brigade, Judgmente dragon, and maybe Honest(I just got mine, but as long as it stays out of the forbidden list I won't complain).HouseholdCatDeity 03:55, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Black Whirlwind may get a limit-semi and Judgment Dragon may be down a bit. maybe Demise, King of Armageddon can be lessened since no one plays ritural like how Light and Darkness Dragon went back to 3. Call of the Haunted and Monster Reborn may switch and maybe a banned may return like Tsukuyomi. Metamorphosis may return if they realise we arnt using it. im guessing Blackwings may get snipped a but maybe not crippled. oh and something about zombies

My Ideas
 Forbidden 


 * Battle Fader(he can be Limited or here)
 * Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier(it depends)

 Limited 


 * Ring of Destruction
 * Judgment Dragon
 * Butterfly Dagger - Elma(just maybe)
 * Jester Confit(maybe here or at Semi-Limited)
 * Black Whirlwind(maybe here or at Semi-Limited)
 * Chaos Sorcerer
 * Premature Burial(if they make brionac forbidden,it depends if this card would be limited again)
 * Metamorphosis(just maybe)
 * Stardust Dragon(because of Starlight Road,but it still can be untouch or Semi-Limited)
 * Oracle of the Sun(Cyber Dragon-like effect)
 * Vice Dragon(Cyber Dragon-like effect)

Semi-Limited


 * Honest(if they would lessen this card,only at Semi-Limited)
 * Book of Moon
 * Fissure
 * D.D. Warrior Lady
 * Rescue Cat(I think they have killed the powerful Lv7 Synchro Monsters,so I think they can return her to Semi-Limited)
 * Dark Armed Dragon(it depends)

--These are what just I think of what will March 2010 will look like.

Jampong 06:18, January 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * No way "Battle Fader" is even touched. It is the only card that guarantees safety from an OTK. "Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier" also has no place on the Forbidden list. I can't see "Butterfly Dagger - Elma", "Stardust Dragon", "Premature Burial", or "Metamorphosis" being Limited, the last 2 shouldn't even come off the list. "Ring of Destruction" is 1 "Spell of Pain" away from being Forbidden for all of eternity. I agree with the remainder of the list, but move "Cyber Dragon" to Semi-Limited and move "Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner" to Limited. DemonGodAsura 06:49, January 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * jester confit is terrible why limit it? butterfly dagger elma needs to stay banned because of its otk abuse. stardust dragon will never be limited even with starlight road.  premature burial is still too abusable imo even with brionac gone (which it shouldnt be). limiting black whirlwind will kill blackwings which are only tier 2 now, i dont think they would limit it or even semi it.  book of moon, fissure, dd warrior lady are all reasonable cards and shouldnt be limited.  rescue cat and DAD are too powerful to be semi limited tho. I think JD will be limited as well as Charge.Lord of Amphibians 07:32, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Ooh, ooh, I got some ideas!

 * Banned:

Plaguespreader Zombie. With Plague banned, Zombies are balanced. The only reason Zombies are broken is because of plays like this:
 * [Player 1] normal summons Zombie Master, and uses it's effect to discard and revive another Zombie Master, which discards Mezuki to revive a Plaguespreader Zombie, which Synchro summons...(and a mass of complicated reviving and special summoning later)...and they all attack [Player 2] directly for the game! What a quick match!

Without the Plague engine, we can create a slightly weaker, yet still competitive, Zombie Swarm deck.
 * Limit:

Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, Charge of the Light Brigade. No more OTKs with Brionac at one, and people will be weary to use it with BTH at three, which I will suggest later in my post. All Lightsworn needs is a limited Charge to ruin their day. At one, it will be simply milled off and forgotten. It also kills the decks consistency, and screws up their OTK potential.
 * Semi-Limit:

Card Trooper, Black Whirlwind, Smashing Ground, Gravity Bind. Yes, I know the 'Dupe Troop' strategy. Summoning two beatsticks that mill is not game-breaking. Black Whirlwind at two makes Blackwing have less of an OTK potential, while Smashing Ground is balanced, and Gravity Bind is no better than (or weaker than) Threatening Roar. It is too vulnerable and slow to be abused by any meta deck, while giving a slight boost to Burn and Mill decks.
 * Unlimit:

Bottomless Trap Hole. This needs to be at three to balance certain decks. 20:19, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

My Turn

 * Forbidden
 * No changes
 * Limited
 * "Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner" - Major swarm card of LS. Turns Wulf into more of a dead draw.
 * "Judgment Dragon" - Double JD drops are too common and end the game upon summon.
 * "Vice Dragon" - Allure-able, SS, Twilight monster
 * "Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier" - Ultimate bouncer. OTK producer (remember the last one? Dark Strike Fighter?)
 * "Confiscation" - The answer to Honest and Kalut.
 * Semi-Limited
 * "Cyber Dragon" - See Vice Dragon, non-Allurable
 * "Black Whirlwind" - Slow down the fast swarming Blackings slightly.
 * "Waboku" - Gladiator key card
 * Unlimited
 * No changes

DemonGodAsura 20:40, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oops, forgot about Cydra. But do you really think GBs need to be hit anymore? And also, with Charge at three, don't you think that Lumina will still come out just as often? I say eliminate the highly-splashable engine card, Charge of the Light Brigade. And I am just not seeing Confiscation doing anything but helping all decks become more broken. Dustshoot is better, slower, and we can wait until some Ally of Justice cards make it into the TCG for Honest detection/prevention. Anyways, we need Waboku for protection in this OTK format. 20:56, January 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I only see "Waboku" used by Glads. As for "Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner", if you limit her, then LS loses most of its swarming capabilities, and turns "Wulf, Lightsworn Beast" into even more of a dead draw. Limiting "Charge of the Light Brigade" would do less, but it would still be a good Limit. "Confiscation" will be a sided card, as it may discard 1 from the opponent's hand, but at the cost of 1000 LP, against decks with many heavy hitters. Honest isn't very dangerous, it's the double JD drop that kills players. DemonGodAsura 04:17, January 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Before Confiscation was banned, almost every deck abused it. It will be the same if it is limited: a broken staple used by every deck. I do not expect Waboku to get hit, because it is not even slightly broken. If GBs do get hit, (which most likely won't happen, indirect or not) the target will not be Waboku.
 * But, I am starting to understand why you suggested Lumina be limited. It would hurt LS, but semi-limiting Charge would help even more. Those changes would not destroy the LS archetype, but take the power a step down. 23:30, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Here is a few ideas
I don't see bws getting hit since zombies beat them now I can see bestiari going to 2 and Ls getting a hit so I we will see at least 3 decks that have a chance in the next format and brionic will hit one at the least Solastramage666 22:27, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Have you seen the Black Feather support in The Shining Darkness? It is insane. They will get hit, at least on the OCG ban list. 23:30, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

there not much good support for BW's in The Shining Darkness


 * Oh there is. Try this on for size. Not to mention they get a Spell and Trap. DemonGodAsura 03:35, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * How about this little fellow? 05:01, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

that little fellow is just about it and i agree he will be limited. I really see no value in the spell and trap they got and as for the other monsters they are okay but i just can't see them main decked very often.

Semi-Limit Black Rose Dragon, and Unlimit Lonefire Blossom? Debris-Hime isn't that much of a threat, especially when compared to Zombies, Lightsworn, and Blackwings.--Akiza Izayoi 16:37, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ideas
banned
 * Plaguespreader Zombie
 * Judgment Dragon or could possibly be limited

limited
 * Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
 * Tragoedia
 * Vice Dragon

semi-limited
 * Honest

why ban plaguespreader? if you ban him there are 3-4 synchro monsters that will be useless i think the lists are good as it is, just ban the call of the haunted and return premature burial i think goyo will be forbidden i guess (hope not) at lvl 6 he got 2800 freaking atk points and also an imba effect. if you ban JD, no more players will play lightsworn again but for the love of crap in Gold series 2010 Jd + Dad in 1 booster pack 0_0June23ly 12:50, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Plaguespreader is the only unbalanced card in a Zombie deck. Without it, Zombies will not be broken. With it, Zombies will always be broken. Premature Burial is too powerful when used with Brionac, since a loophole in Premature's effect allows it to be used as a near-infinite revival card. Call of the Haunted fits the meta better, anyways. Also, a simple beatstick like Goyo will never be banned. 18:34, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

JD won't be banned, just limited. Aside from that I don't think Lightsworns will be hit more than that, and I hope not, because I run them.User:LightMasterJ

FZ's Ideas
Forbidden:
 * none (If any, it would probably be Brain Control, since that card wins games by itself sometimes)

Limited:
 * These should happen:
 * Judgement Dragon (Should have been limited ages ago)
 * Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier (This = Tier 1 Zombies, before this, Zombies were tier 2)
 * These might happen:
 * Mezuki (As if Zombies didn't have enough revival power)
 * Magician of Faith (There's almost always 1 Forbidden Card coming off and this is what I think it is this time.)
 * Royal Oppression (It's powerful, but it's anti-meta. That is until now, meta decks are starting to use this card. Shouldn't be semi'd since meta decks use 2 anyway.)

Semi-Limited:
 * These should happen:
 * Burial from a Different Dimension (Vayu and Necro Gardna spamming is not good, this may get limited, but I think semi should be enough.)
 * Tragoedia (Easy SS, in some decks it can get very powerful, in-built Brain Control. However, in more decks it's a weak card. Stops OTKs.)
 * Honest (Splashable card, can be reused easily with Beckoning Light. Can turn games around by itself. Not limited before since it was expensive and Konami wanted you to buy it, now that there's a promo version it can go now)
 * Card Trooper (I really don't see this card as a threat)
 * These might happen:
 * Black Whirlwind (This > Card of Safe Return but because it's a non-splashable card it should be here and not Limited. Also, new BW cards are coming out.)
 * Gladiator Beast Bestiari (GB's are not tier 1 any more, give them a chance)
 * One for One (Decks like Frogs and Morphtronics need this)
 * Either Advanced Ritual Art or Demise, King of Armageddon (Rituals are not meta, why limit them so much?)

Unlimited:
 * These should happen:
 * Mind Crush (Destroying people's minds with ancient magical powers is A-OK)
 * Magical Stone Excavation (No one cares... almost)
 * Goblin Zombie (I don't think people will run 3 anyway)
 * These might happen:
 * Lonefire Blossom (Well, Plants need this to compete against Zombies. Seriously, ever play the game Plants vs. Zombies?)
 * Mask of Darkness (Why is this on the list anyway?)

Falzar FZ 04:03, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

umm, mask of darkness must remain on its state, imagine a revival of mirror force or torrential tribute from grave 3x i agree on 1 4 1 semi limiting please rest magician of faith in its resting place, imagine brain control twice? or any super imba spell card twice i want to also add Mind Master to semi limit (psychics are not tier 1 anyway, just like bestiari on GBs) that's all i guess June23ly 10:23, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Mask of Darkness and Magician of Faith are there since no top decks in tournaments use these cards. (I did mention banning Brain Control)
 * Plants, they have access to 4 Mirror forces and 4 Brain Controls (Wall of Thorns and Mark of the Rose) When those cards were released people thought that would effect the meta. However, this did not happen as well as people predicted. The top few plant decks even dropped Wall of Thorns and a few Mark of the Roses.

Mind Master has a FTK and an OTK, these aren't good even in a non-meta deck. Falzar FZ 21:59, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

My list March 2010
Forbidden:

None

Limited:

Brionac (TGC is on 3)

Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon (for the promo in the Absolute Powerforce)

Vayu

Catastor

Mezuki

Burial from a different dimension

Stardust Dragon

Judgment Dragon

Honest

Tragoedia

Semi-Limited:

Dark Eruption (A Monster reincarnation without cost)

Cyber Dragon (For the New Machine Deck)

Jinzo (for Call of the Haunted)

Deep Sea Diva

Future Fusion

Starlight Road

Dark Bribe

Trade-In

Hell Twin Cop

Red Eyes Wyvern

Deck Devastation Virus

Giant Trunade

Black Rose Dragon

Genesis Dragon

Vice Dragon

Unlimited:

Ultimate offering (Posibly)

You are a prophet!! Please please umlimit Ultimate offering. HouseholdCatDeity

Aren't Gadgets tier 1 in OCG? meaning they won't unlimit Ultimate Offering. Falzar FZ 02:21, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Let this kitty dream plz.HouseholdCatDeity

"coughcough" Obelisk "cough" (and Ra too, if it's been made in the TCG by then. Battlemaniac 20:27, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

i highly doubt that redmd, wyvern and genesis dragon will get affected.. 1.genesis doesnt see much use except in disaster dragon 2. wyvern only works on red eyes monsters... so outside of the dragon type red eyes theres red eyes zombie dragon 3. redmd only works for dragon types. if it wasnt for that then dragons would see little to no use at all no matter which way you look at it, dragon types dont have the major support that is needed to be ran without red eyes darkness metal

I heard
--they will limit Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier,because it's so fast in the new and improved infernity Deck.

Jampong 12:50, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Here's mine, after a long time of not posting =)
My ideas would be...

Forbidden - nothing changes, even if you think Konami should really limit DSF at one

Limited
 * Judgment Dragon should be there =)
 * Battle Fader
 * Charge of the Light Brigade, if not, semi-limited
 * Anybody thought of Blackwing - Vayu the Emblem of Honor ?
 * And yes, I think now is the time to limit Tsukuyomi

Semi-Limited and too many more that I can think of.
 * Honest should be there, definitely. =)
 * Starlight Road
 * Stardust Dragon also should be there.
 * Blackwing - Breeze the Gentle Wind too, it's like Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind, minus the Shrink effect
 * Caius the Shadow Monarch
 * D.D. Warrior Lady
 * Breaker the Magical Warrior
 * Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier...

Unlimited
 * Megamorph, who still uses this??

There, all I can think of. UltraSynchron 20:39, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Here's some of my thoughts
Banned: no new

limited: Judgment dragon(if you look at the limited and banlist ANY card that blows up field is either at 1 or banned why has judgment been the exception?) Archlord Kristya (this card makes lightsworn ridiculous) Charge of the light brigade (splashing into too many decks for the mill effect and lightsworns been top for awhile. it may only be semi-limited) Mesuki (slow down the plague engine a little bit, it's kinda crazy almost teledad)

semi-limited Black whirlwind (maybe but it's just a possible thought to slow em down a little) Bestiari (This will make gladiator beasts back on the competitive scale and help bring them up to top 16 again) Honest( the only reason it isn't up here already is because it was either secret rare or ghost rare now that it's coming out as a more common card it'll be semi-limited at least)

Predictions for new format are that blackwings and gladiator beasts are going to be running the show and possibly even xx-sabers with they're new cards coming out. Actually even if they do limit the lightsworn stuff it'll probably switch over to a twilight deck with chaos sorcerer. I just hope we see a change of top tier decks. lightsworns been up there a while and so has the destiny hero/ synchro dad builds. Zombies have been up there for a while too. New format i'm hoping new top tiers.