User talk:Cardsknower

I was just wondering
if you could

stop making new headers
for each message you make

when they're all
about the same topic? It makes people's Talk Pages unnecessarily longer and implies there's a new topic. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 22:31, February 25, 2017 (UTC)

Replacing files belonging to the same gallery
Cardsknower, I already told you to avoid this; then, 2 minutes after, this; then, 8 minutes after, this; then, 14 minutes after, this; and finally this.

For this, you'll be blocked for a while. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 02:51, February 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * Becasita, I was replacing those files with png images using the queue like you told me, but it seems I should have done those all at once. I'm sorry and I will try to do them all in one take next time if they are from the same gallery. I won't do it like this again. I don't want to be blocked for an even longer time. Can I prove myself for this? Also I'm starting to feel you want me banned from this wiki for every wrong thing I do even if it's not doing useless edits. I don't want this or being blocked until I can no longer work on this wiki anymore.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 03:44, February 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm glad to hear that. But this is not the first time you've said you'd stop when you didn't. You even know what you should have done, but you chose not to do it.
 * If I wanted you blocked out of this wiki, you'd have been blocked already. I told you, several times, that I was giving you a last warning, but, after that, I kept warning you. So no, it's the exact opposite. I should have blocked you already, but I always tried not to; this has reached a state where I won't hesitate anymore. You had more chances than anyone would have.
 * You have one month to think about this. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 15:02, February 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * The action that got me blocked won't happen again (I already put a reminder on my notepad file to remind myself and I follow that without a problem.) and this was for technically doing something that wasn't useless. I would rather be blocked from uploading images to the wiki for a month since that was what got me blocked in the first place. Any other editing I do besides replacing files will not be useless.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 16:15, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Words here aren't enough to convince you enough and I already am learning from this error immensely. If we could speak to each other on something like phone or email or FaceTime or Skype, I could prove this to you. Otherwise, I would prefer being banned for three days or a week as I learn my lessons within that amount of timeCardsknower (talk • contribs) 03:20, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

I have thought this about this and I promise to replaces files all in one go when they are from the same gallery (to be honest I forgot at that point that more than one image can be replaced on the queue as I was used to doing it a few at a time without a problem). I will need Cheesedude and UltimateKuriboh to voice their opinion on this since the editing that got me blocked was useful but redundant (at least in your point of view).Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 03:20, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

Becasita, I have some questions about anime-exclusive card galleries before my block ends
Before my block ends, I have a few questions regarding anime-exclusive card galleries so I can remember what to do and what not to do when editing them and avoiding another block. 1) If I add ZX-2 images, which show cards with a white glow when they are about to be used, should this apply only to Spell and Trap Cards and not monsters?

2) Cheesedude previously told me last year (probably in the summer if my memory is right told me) that if I just change "nonGame" to "nongame" to a gallery, I should only do such an edit once a day. I've been following that more better than the "spacing problem", but is that okay with you?

Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 17:36, March 1, 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't even know why we should have  images, to be honest. Maybe in some cases it could be relevant, but I don't think it should be a current practice (if I'm understanding it correctly).
 * No. Like I once told you:
 * " If I see you making a space edit or any other edit that I find pointless (and I reserve the right to judge what edits are pointless), I won't hesitate in blocking you for a while"
 * So please don't abuse or this time I won't be so mild with warnings. I don't remember Cheesedude telling you that, furthermore. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 00:33, March 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm not thinking of abusing right now. I had previously uploaded zx-2 images without any problem but this only applied to spell and trap cards being activated. Nobody has complained about these yet, but I want to know if I should limit myself with these images or just not upload them at all. The only reason for the monsters ask was because there were cases in ZEXAL where the monster cards glow when they are summoned
 * I was thinking of renaming these images since -2 for anime images usually applies to cards that change lores or layout in between episodes of an anime (such as those for the DM era and the ARC-V era). Even if I could continue doing these, I would need to come up with an appropriate name change.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 01:24, March 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * "ZX-2" can be used, but looking at your more recent uploads, you are not using it in the correct situations. A card glowing does not call for a new image to be uploaded. Nor glowing monsters, for that matter (unless it was done in a episode before the card debuted properly in order to deliberately hide it).
 * It is more properly used when there is a lore or layout change, as you said yourself above. I would discourage you from uploading more images like the recent glowing "Numbers Overlay Boost" image. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:16, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

Only different glowing card that was unique in the ZEXAL anime was rank up magic barian's force since its glow was different from other cards. Cheesedude, I already removed these from files I'm preparing to upload when my block ends. It would be nice if yugioh.com showed all the anime appearing cards on their website in dub card form and/or jp card form besides artwork form and anime exclusive cards in both jp and dub form so that the artwork pages would just images as with the tag force card artworks.03:05, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

Cheesedude I have a question about using/uploading GIF files
After creating my first GIF file, Cheesedude, I have a question if it's okay to upload GIF files for card effects in action? I have created one for "Fake Life" and one for "Surprise Inspection" for later when my block expires, but I'm hesitant with uploading them even though the images do show an effect doing something without the player manually doing so. So far in this wiki, I have found four GIF files (one for "Monster Clock" acting like a cuckoo clock while equipped with "Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind", one for "Rank-Up-Magic Limited Barian's Force" becoming "Rank-Up-Magic Numeron Force", one with the infinite loop in DM episode 67 and one where Yusei beats up the guards in 5D's episode 25). Note that we have a few other gif files that are here and only one of them I question is notable (Yusei beating up guards in 5D's episode 26).

If this doesn't work, my only other far flung hope is that there is a Korean dub for Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL and the other Yu-Gi-Oh! animes aside from the DM anime and ARC-V anime.

On an unrelated note, there are images of cards in card form for Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Links among a few other video games such as Duel Generation and Legacy of the Duelist, however I can't put images on card galleries for those games until they are officially on this wiki even though I have proof for Duel Generation through this wiki and Legacy of the Duelist through a card list on a Google Docs file outside of this wiki. Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 17:34, March 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * We don't have any actual policy on gifs as there are so few of them. I personally have no issue with more being uploaded, so long as they similiary brief as the ones we have for licensing reasons. The ones you mention seem fine to me, I cannot speak for anyone else and am willing to hear differing opinions on the matter, obviously.
 * I truly don't understand why you want to edit card galleries with images that have yet to be uploaded, so I don't really have a comment on that portion. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:58, March 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * I can only input galleries/images if these cards exist in real life whether in the real game or in the video games, or which anime they belong to as have other users have done. We currently have no video game cards in card form from games in between Yu-Gi-Oh! Reshef of Destruction and Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Links even though they do exist in such form.


 * Also it seems you want the gifs to be about 1 to 2 seconds, but what's the actual limit.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 19:46, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Becasita, card lists for cards in Yu-Gi-Oh! Legacy of the Duelist and Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Links do exist in other websites
Becasita, since my block will expire in about 12 days from now, I want you to know card lists for both these games do exist in websites outside of this wiki, which could help in listing down the available playable cards in those games for the future (I know where the links are, but I can't do anything about it right now). While I wish I could I help and edit in the wiki like I used to, I still need to wait for my block to expire, I can't wish for it to end sooner or now.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 23:21, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Cheesedude, I have a a question about video game images.
Right now, we have many video game images, but they're mostly nc images, however there are a lot of card images from video games as well but these only go up to Reshef of Destruction for the earlier games right now as well as a couple from the Tag Force games and Duel Links. Should we eventually upload more card images in card form from the video games in the future?Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 22:13, March 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * We'd like more video game images when there are differences. For example, we don't need an image from every Tag Force game if we already have an image from one of them for a given card, since the art is going to be the same. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:19, March 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * That's a good point to keep in mind. The images from Tag Force are mostly artworks and yes there should be differences. In my opinion, the card form of the cards in the various Tag Force games should be on the wiki unless someone else says otherwise. The Match Winning cards only go up to 2012 and it's unlikely they are in any video games after Tag Force 6 since match winning cards are completely illegal in the real game. I am not sure if they in any other games after Tag Force 6, but I would like it if anyone would reply and state if they are in any video games after Tag Force 6.

To be honest Cheesedude, I really wish I could continue editing on this wiki, but until my block expires or an administrator unblocks me, I have to wait since I can't do any editing while I am blocked.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 22:50, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

Becasita, please reply to this request about unblocking me (which may or may not happen) as I really want to help out again like I used to
Becasita, I understand that after what happened nearly a month ago (which got me blocked for a month), I need to use the queue for replacing images all in one go especially if those files are from the same set card gallery or card gallery. I really want to help and assist on this wiki like I did previously, but I can't do anything with editing until I'm either unblocked or my block expires, whichever comes first. I learned my lesson on this and it won't happen again.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 18:12, March 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * If you keep asking me (almost demanding) to unblock you; I may or may not block you for another month. You made several mistakes. You got several warnings; I was very patient with your silly excuses. Now you'll have patience dealing with this; it's not something you don't deserve. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 18:20, March 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry if I made it sound demanding as getting blocked a for longer time and threatening someone to unblock me is not what I want. I was fortunate to keep my sanity and not do something that ArchadiasScholarly or FredCat100 did when they were blocked. That queue thing is something that I am going to make sure won't happen again (Which was for(while helpful) redundant editing, something I was unhappy about since I was still helping out, but it was treated as unhelpful). I got over being blocked though and it gave me time to learn my lesson on this. I have been very patient with waiting for this block to expire (and at the same time preparing some edits that I plan to do after the expiration) and even though I wish it would end sooner, that's something beyond my jurisdiction and waiting is my only option. Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 18:43, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Should I replace files before renaming them? Also how long should I wait before I can replaces files from the same gallery again
When I rename files, should I replace them in the queue first all in one go the same one I should do for replacing jpg files. Also you said I can't replaces files from the same set gallery consecutively, but if I replace files from the same set gallery all in one go and have some more file from the same set I want to replace, how long should I wait before I can replace files from that set gallery again?Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 21:16, March 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * There is no strict rule about that. There may be cases where you'll have to update the file links a couple of minutes ones after the others; it's justifiable. Now, like you did, no; you would update one file link, two minutes later update another one there, then another and so on. No, this is not productive, clogs the page history. Try to plan your edits when it comes to card images. It may be better to go by set than by individual card images. Just pick a set you want to replace the images on, select a few, load them on the queue and go. Do not do it one by one.
 * Again, don't try to circumvent my words, don't come at me, then, saying I didn't say this or that. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 00:20, March 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * Okay thanks, but I wasn't trying to do that with your words. I just wanted to avoid getting blocked for something like this again as I only plan to do edits that are meaningful when my block expires (5 days from now). Should we make lists/galleries for whatever cards that appear in videogames as there are lists/galleries for some games, but none for others.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 00:40, March 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, ideally, galleries should exist. It would have to be analyzed for each game, because some contain card and non-card images whereas others don't. As for the lists, it depends; some list them on the their booster packs pages, in case boosters exist in-game. Ideally, templates (that do not exist yet) should be used to generate both of those, in my opinion. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 01:17, March 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * For the first few Tag Force games up until Tag Force 6, all the main artworks from the previous tag force games should work for Tag Force galleries. Note that since some videogames are relatives to each other by name a couple of times such as tag force and world championship, some images from a gallery will have to be carried over to another gallery if those card(s) appeared in the game the next gallery appears in.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 02:10, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Becasita, I have two notes about video games images from Duel Links and ARC-V Tag Force Special
Becasita, I want to ask this in relation to cards that appeared in Duel Links and ARC-V Tag Force Special.

For cards for Duel Links, the cards there do exist in card form in that game, but only "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" and "Dark Magician" have their cards shown in card form besides NC form on this wiki. I could input the rest in, but I can only do that for cards that are playable in Duel Links. Everything else will have to wait until they are released for Duel Links.

For ARC-V Tag Force Special, I could input galleries for cards that are in ARC-V Tag Force Special, but only if they had not appeared in previous Tag Force games. We have one image for "Accel Synchron" from that game, but no others right now.

Although cards in Legacy of the Duelist do exist in card form, we have no images of cards from that game for the moment. If this is all rejected, then I won't say anything against it. I have to wait until tomorrow for my block to expire. Reply when you can!

Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 00:45, March 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * Regarding Duel Links: No, don't upload card forms for now. I thought I had already said this. If it's necessary to add the gallery entries for the card forms, my bot can do it quick and easily, so just don't worry about that.
 * Regarding ARC-V Tag Force: No, they look distorted when extracted. So, for now, no, don't upload them. So no gallery entries for them for now. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 01:35, March 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * I think you mixed up the card images with the nc images since your bot did that for the Duel Links nc images that weren't there yet, not card images. Gallery entries for Duel Links and ARC-V Tag Force are going to have to wait for card form (another lesser extent would be Legacy of the Duelist, but that would be unlikely). We currently have five cards and two token cards from Duel Links in card form (with two in Japanese the rest in English). The Duel Links cards in card form do exist in English and Japanese as shown in the category they are in.


 * I partly anticipated that inputting gallery entries for Duel Links (and perhaps any other game for that matter) in card form would not work if they are not uploaded to the wiki yet as it would be considered edit cheating even if the card(s) do exist in the game in that form (though we still have a few Duel Link NC images for monsters that aren't in Duel Links yet, I'm ignoring those for now since they don't exist in the game AND the wiki yet). It's a shame I can't do that, but those are the rules (however even with this, this makes me question why we have blank gallery entries for galleries in TCG/OCG even if we know the cards exist in the TCG/OCG that form as wouldn't that be a form of edit cheating).


 * An unrelated question is why we have Italian lores for a couple of Match Winner cards as there are only three Match Winner cards released in a language other than English, Japan, and/or Korean.


 * Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 02:23, March 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * No, I didn't mix them. I had a list of cards that were in the game, so I set my bot to add the -NC versions of them to their respective galleries, regardless if they existed here at the time. It was a matter of time until they were uploaded (which they are now).
 * Because we know those exist and we should have them. For the Duel Links, not for now, since they may look fishy. It depends. But I already told you: for now, no; if we do want them to be here, my bot can add the gallery entries. So don't think about this.
 * Because someone added them. We allow unofficial lores (personally, I'd prefer not to, but we never really discussed that). Though it could be useful if you could point to the articles next time. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 02:39, March 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah it would be fishy for the moment, but if we ever do decide we want them to be here earlier if they are existing in the game, can I assist in adding the Duel Links card images in? It would be a little better if you have some faith to other users for some of these things (I can help with editing on removing unreleased galleries if you give me a chance to do so. Duel Links will have to wait on that for now).


 * The Match Winning cards that have unofficial Italian lores include "Grandopolis, The Eternal Golden City", "E☆HERO Pit Boss", " King Landia the Goldfang", "Queen Nereia the Silvercrown", "Grizzly, the Red Star Beast", "Aggiba, the Malevolent Sh'nn S'yo", "Skuna, the Leonine Rakan", "Tyr, the Vanquishing Warlord", "Lorelei, the Symphonic Arsenal", "Chimaera, the Master of Beasts", "Emperor of Lightning", "Testament of the Arcane Lords", "Armament of the Lethal Lords", "King of Destruction - Xexex", "Queen of Fate - Eternia", "Ulevo", and "Meteo the Matchless", which is pretty much every single Match winning card that exists up until 201. One with just an unofficial Portuguese lore is "Stardust Divinity" and one with just an unofficial Spanish lore, "Get Your Game On!".


 * One last thing about cards in video games is shouldn't we think about creating card pages for tcg/OCG cards that appeared in games since we have them for the anime or manga. We have them for bam and some other games but a few others are absent. Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 06:06, March 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * I know I don't have to do ALL of that by myself. But if with my bot, I can help, then I'll help by using it. I already replied to the DULI stuff; I have nothing more to add.
 * I don't understand your last question. If they appeared only in video games, then they should have articles about them, in the video game; not OCG/TCG-like articles. Some templates are still to be created, though, making this impossible for now. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 13:19, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

GIFs
Cardsknower, let's be serious, please. Do you honestly think this GIF is useful? Please justify yourself. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 22:14, March 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * I originally believed that effects in action that didn't involve a player doing something manually would be okay to upload, though I found it doubtful for this image now with this message. I had one prepared for "Fake Life", which showed the attack of "Shark Drake Veiss" being negated by making the attack go backwards all the way back to preparation, which was not the usual thing that happens for attacks that are negated (negated attacks in ZEXAL are obliterated usually), though I don't know if that would be okay to upload here. That would be the only other GIF file that I have prepared, but I don't know if I should upload it. I honestly have no big justification for the GIF image that is the issue here other than the my first sentence, which will presumably not be a good justification, so if it's a no than you can delete it.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 22:47, March 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * The one you mentioned here sounds fine. The one who have already uploaded seems like a completely different case. All that's happening is a car being flipped. That doesn't need illustration.
 * Also, I have revoked your mover rights in light of the recent ban and your behavior involving file moves. The right can be earned back assuming you have no additional issues. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:54, March 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * There were a few other images that I had the thought of uploading, but I want to see if they are okay for you. For "Number Spell Caster", When Yuma used "Number Spell Caster" on "Number C39: Utopia Ray Victory", the latter got absorbed by particles before being obliterated. Usually monsters tend to obliterate into particles (without being absorbed by particles) when they are sent from the field to the Graveyard. Another thing is when Yuma activated "Swords of Burning Light" through "Number Spell Caster", it had a blue aura trail, which was not shown when "Swords of Burning Light" was activated in its debut duel. For "Number 10: Dark Illumiknight", when it sent Flip to Barian World, a magenta blob came out of the card and enveloped him before he was absorbed. Everyone else that was absorbed got turned into magneta silhouettes along with their cards before being absorbed. Would these images I mentioned be okay to upload to this wiki, Cheesedude?


 * There are no other additional issues involving the file movement except that consecutive thing, which got me blocked for a month. That will never happen again and I made sure of it earlier when I uploaded the files that were going to replace jpg files after my block expired.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 23:49, March 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * Those sound fine based on what you told me, I do reserve the right to change my mind once I actually see the gifs. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:03, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Two things
Don't add  images, please; they generally don't bring anything new. And could you explain exactly how you did this, please? Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 09:20, April 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * Don't upload . There may be some cases where it is justifiable; not the general rule. If you think your   images are better than the ones we already have, upload over them. Personally, I like to have   images that show the whole monster. If you have images that show the details, by me, you can upload them over the ones we already have and then revert yourself, just to store the image; I don't find them that relevant; some monsters have tons of details, we're not going to have 20 images of a monster just because it has different poses or is using a different attack or you can see its back, or its whatever; not practical.
 * Regarding the second point: My bad, I apologize for the inconvenience. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 16:18, April 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * Alright, I've gone over your recent uploads. Most of them are fine. There are a few I'd like to delete. Let me explain.
 * File:DebuggerX-JP-Anime-ZX-NC-Back.png - This isn't showing any new, particularly with how blurry it is (and yes, I'm aware that's the only back view you'll ever get from the anime).
 * File:NumberSpellCaster-JP-Anime-ZX-TributeCost.png - A monster disintegrating into yellow dust isn't really a card effect. The yellow dust thing is a very standard thing. Its not specific to "Number Spellcaster".
 * File:FiendishKnight-JP-Anime-ZX-NC-Upperback.png - I don't think this adding much that the front shot isn't. For very large monsters, I get showing other views. "Fiendish Knight" isn't one of those.
 * Do you have any comments on these? If not, I'm going to delete them. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:14, April 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * Again, I can see using back views in specific circumstances. But the back of "Debugger X" is just...a pink block. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:09, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

If you're looking for work regarding images mate, there's a wealth of ARC-V episodes that could do with images in their summary sections. I leave hidden notes as indications in the summaries, but it's nothing set in stone. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 01:35, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Do you know How far ARC v is for Korea at this point
daewonmedia.com it's what I can find for now. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 17:13, April 8, 2017 (UTC)

RE:Request to delete pages
You got it. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 14:50, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Updating images
Diff 1; diff 2. Do not do this. Explain why you did this. Why did you change one and only some minutes later the other; especially when the video game image was only there? And there are more JPG images there, so I can't understand why you did this. You've been warned about this multiple times. Explain please. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 17:08, May 18, 2017 (UTC)