Forum:White Stone, Grimoire Q

I got into an argument with a judge regarding the Hand Limit Check. First case involves The White Stone of Legend; The judge claims that the Hand Size check is the very last thing to happen so if I discard White Stone during the time and add a BEWD to my hand, I'll keep it and have 7 cards in my hand. I say he's wrong, the newly added BEWD WILL be discarded as it is impossible to have 7+ cards in your hand without the help of some cards. So who's right?

Second case involves Dark World Grimoire, Kuraz the Light Monarch and cards like Bottomless Trap Hole and Divine Wrath. Once again, he says that it is impossible to activate the effect of Kuraz since you don't get a chance for it since the the last thing to happen is the Hand Limit Check and it is impossible to activate cards like BTH. Ok, I went with him on this one BUT what if the summoned monster has a Mandatory Trigger Effect? I can't remember a card like that so I listed Kuraz as a substitute but let's say he's mandatory just for this example. So, here it goes: 1)I have 7 Cards in my Hand and DW Grimoire on the Field. 2)I discard Kuraz and it is Special Summoned via Grimoire 3)His effect activates 4)My opponent chains BTH or Divine Wrath or whatever...

So, can you help? Thanks in advance.Otakon7 (talk • contribs) 17:24, December 20, 2010 (UTC)