User talk:Cheesedude

Welcome to my talk page. Feel free to leave any messages below. However, do not ask me for help with your Deck. I have not actively played the TCG in a very long time, and have not kept up with current rulings. If you leave me a message, I will put your talk page on my watchlist. You may respond on my talk page or your talk page. I will check both.

Final Time
Crashsnake still doesn't seem to be following the Manual of Style or your final warning as he wrote 'ritual summon' instead of "Ritual Summon' like he had previously done. I don't think he is going to listen to either of us, so do you think we should block him or not?Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 22:50, December 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm keeping an eye on it. I don't see any instances of him adding "ritual summon", it was already like that before he edited those pages. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:55, December 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually I noticed both this and this while keeping an eye on his newer edits. I had to change those as soon as I found out about them. There a couple of other recent ones I had to change too.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 23:55, December 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I really didn't want to do this, but I've blocked him. I'm willing to unblock him if he just responds to the warnings. I'm hoping the block might get him to come around and realize he's not being helpful. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:09, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Double Buster Sword
Even not fully knowing the Japanese language, I guess you know the abyss that exists between it and the English language, right? So, for short, the art of writing foreign languages (mainly English) in Japanese is freaking unstable and changes each day. Many things still can't be adapted well, many things have several ways to be adapted (besides the fact that English's still not Japanese people's native language). For short again, one can't say something's right or wrong about this art. Both "Buster Sword" or "Bustersword" are valid translations. I personally named it "Buster Sword" 'cause that's the one which fits English the best, but Rank 24 was already released in English, and I'll be receiving it soon, with the card's official English name. So renaming it now wouldn't be worthy, unless if it's to match the official name. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:30, December 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, you can ask me away if you have any doubts like that. I've been striking you with questions for a long time as well, so. xD LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 01:03, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Resemblance
It was indeed beside the three heads monsters, they resembled in the Machine-Type. But of course, because of "Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon", No. 107 is not Machine Type at all. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:50, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Help
So.... This month's chapter of 5D's introduced the "Hell" archetype, used by Sect Ijuin. But, it turned out that there was already such a series - "Chthonian" (which are named "Hell" in the Japanese version, just like Sect's cards). I created the page for Sect's archetype and now it got all messed up. :P Could you please help me here? xD The list of "Chthonian" cards has a redirect to "Hell", so now there's a list with "Chthonian" members with a list of "Hell" support cards. :/ Also, should we mix both pages? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:03, December 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks like the support list issue was fixed, so that just leaves the question of combining the pages. Personally, I'd argue against it; as "Chthonian" is a series, its members are tied together thematically, whereas the members of "Hell" are tied together by card effects. This is further borne out by the fact that "Chthonian" is a GX series and "Hell" is a 5D's archetype, and they are used by completely unrelated characters (unless there's something I don't know about Sect and Chazz, which is actually decently likely considering how much (little =D ) I actually know about GX and 5D's). This isn't just a matter of an old series getting random support all of a sudden, but of a "new" archetype being introduced that inadvertently supports an old series. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:07, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * True. I don't really think Viz'll rename Sect's "Hell" monsters to "Chthonian", so guess we should leave 'em like this for now (although the "Chthonians" still are supported by the "Hell" support cards).
 * And no, Sect and Manjoume have absolutely nothing to do with each other. xD LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:39, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Doesn't the fact that Manjoume's cards would be supported by Sect's support card make the whole thing nil? It's an archetype, right?
 * Also, I was never a big believer that "Chthonian" should have had a page to begin with. The cards were thematically similiar but if it wasn't for Manjoume's use of them I don't know that the connection would have been noticed. Anyway, now that's nil because archetype, so that's fine. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:13, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * So in the end, we should mix both? It's just another case of coincidence after all. This happens a lot, mainly with archetypes like "Doll" and "Knight", which besides being largely used for card names, can be easily on a card's name accidentally, like "Aqua Madoor" for example (in Japanese, "Madōru", it has "dōru", which's "doll"). And "Aqua Madoor" is a valid target for a "dōru" support card (well, not in English, but we consider just Japanese, right?). LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 01:31, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * In the end, support = archetype = logic goes straight the hell out the window. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:33, December 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * In addition to what's listed at "Chthonian", there are cards that use Jigoku as romaji. Of the ones I know of, it looks like "Helpoemer" would also be a "Hell" card, while "Inferno Reckless Summon" and "Pandemonium Watchbear" would not. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 10:33, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * The Hell page could be like the Sphinx page; include all members to the archetype (Hell, Chthonian and any other card with a different translation, but the same Japanese Name), but with two different sections, the first for the cards used by Chazz (basically how the Chthonian is now) and the second for Sect's cards (the currently Hell page). --Missign0 (talk • contribs) 13:44, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, "Helpoemer" isn't a "Hell" card. Sect's "Hell" monsters have the Kanji "地獄" (Jigoku) with the Furigana "ヘル" (Heru). A card must have both, the Kanji and the Furigana, in order to be supported by Sect's support cards. In this case, none of the cards you linked would. Although, there's something that I'm not sure about. "Chthonian Soldier" does have the Kanji and the Furigana, but the Furigana isn't specifically "Heru" for "Jigoku", it's everything in 1, "Heru Sorujā" for "Jigoku Senshi". I'm not sure if this'd make him a valid target. I'll ask Ark to know it for sure. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:09, December 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wait, what am I talking about. Of course he is. I got momentarily confused, never mind. xD LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 16:18, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, you're right, he's not. He has the whole thing only in the kanji. He has the necessary furigana - but it's not furigana, its part of the kanji. So yeah, the only two members other than Sect's cards are "Chthonian Soldier" and "Mefist the Infernal General (all the other "Chthonian" cards have no furigana). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:47, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Dealing with a jerk
So, I keep undoing a contributor's same edit on Number 72's Trivia, and he keeps doing it again. I tried to talk to him, but he ignored. Anything we can do? :/ LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 00:57, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * A lot of "Number" trivia is just grasping at straws. It doesn't help that many other trivia pages for "Numbers" list calculations like that as the "origin" of the number. So I dunno. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:59, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's just an extreme example; I'll go through the other trivia pages for the "Numbers" and wipe things like that off. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 03:20, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Much appreciated. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:22, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, much appreciated Kuriboh. That all started when I added on the "Numbers" page that (don't remember who) posted on his Twitter that the Numbers' numbers have a reason to be like that, and that they are carefully chosen. Since then, lots of people with lots of free time and nothing to do started creating the most stupid reasons to explain the numbers. :/ What a pain in the ass. :/ LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 21:30, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Speaking of that, could you cite the Twitter post, if able, on the Number page? --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 22:12, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I read about that in this thread, don't remember in which page  though. *__* LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 15:07, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Replying back
I know this was a few days late, but I got your message and I am following along with most of your ideas. However even with the anime lores literally translated and/or removed, other people might get confused and think that it needs to be written in. UltimateKuriboh is doing an excellent job translating the lores in the anime, but it appears the only places to put in these parts that weren't mentioned in the anime lore would be the Duel Summary and the Card Appearances pages. I only hope a better solution than the one I suggested to UltimateKuriboh will come up soon as I think it was just a good at that moment. Reply when you can.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 16:18, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * If they get confused, we revert them and explain why. I don't necessarily think we need to mention all of it on the card pages. A lore and an effect aren't really the same thing. That being said, I think I'll bring this up at Community Discussion later to get some more opinions. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:45, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

4KIDS Mistakes Page
I was going to start on it today, just checking if it's alright? Also what do you think a good name for the page would be? Cheers! TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 22:31, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's fine. As for the title, perhaps Card edits in the dub or something like that? We can always move it later. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:07, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Is the page specifically going to deal with card mistakes or all kinds of mistakes? -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:13, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Scarecrow and I had discussed this on NAC. The idea was to have a page that could be linked to for all 4Kids card edits (i.e. a page like Arkana's Deck: Mistakes in dubbed episodes, but for all instances). We were hoping that having that would then enable us to remove the error cards from the character Decklists. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:17, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * "Card edits in the dub" sounds like the better name to me. You don't mistakenly edit multiple copies of The Winged Dragon of Ra into characters' hands; those are more Freeze Frame Bonuses. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 00:22, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think we should be careful about calling them mistakes, when they may have been intentional. Although "card edits..." sounds to me more like using the same cards, but changing them, such as censoring the artwork. Maybe "card replacements..."? -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:33, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * So Card replacements in the dub? I'll start designing the layout on my profile anyway, so when a name is settled on, could someone let me know please? TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 14:32, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Attack names
So today, I got a peek at some of the chapters of the English Viz Manga of Yu-Gi-Oh! R. Thing is, I am a bit hesitant about my changes to the attack name page. The English manga described a pumped-up version of Blue-Eyes White Dragon's attack as "Destruction Burst Extreme" (I didn't make that change yet). I also believe I remember seeing "Burst Stream of Destruction" being used as an attack name. This confuses me, as the English name for its attack is described as "White Lightning," yet the Japanese name is also "Burst Stream of Destruction." Do I put that as the English attack name or Japanese translated attack name? It also makes me wonder if I messed up when I put the other attack names down... --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 06:14, December 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't have enough English volumes to do much checking, but it's probably just the English manga being inconsistent. If you saw both "Destruction Burst Extreme" and "Burst Stream of Destruction, then list both. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 06:17, December 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * 'scuse for the intruding. Thing is, Viz messes up everything. Well, also attack and effect names use to change a lot when the monster is affected by some effect or something like that (in those cases you should add it like "[attack/effect name] [affected by/equiped with...]"). Sometimes (MANY times) Viz commits mistranslations, or translates the same thing in two different ways. That's Viz's incompetence, and I don't know how we could add those. Maybe we add them as "alternate names". LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 15:28, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Card search categories
Oh. I'm not well conversant with those categories yet. xD Thanks for notifying me. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 15:35, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

ZEXAL - Episode 80
I'm working on Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL - Episode 080 summary and i'm not finshed with duel part can you finish it for me. Thanks highly respet, Stark 18:36, December 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, very nice. I can try to finish the Duel part later if you don't get to it, but I don't know if I'll have the time myself. What's there looks pretty good. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:52, December 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Part of summary of duel between Alit and Yuma isn't finished, but thanks and MERRY CHRISTMAS highly respet, Stark 18:57, December 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * In future, do not repost two topic with same name, you're just make it look funnier. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:03, December 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * oh yea, sorry about that highly respet, Stark 19:05, December 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's "Respect", with C's in the between of second "E" and "T". -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:56, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Quick ask
I was wondering... Y'know the Duel Priestess? A Duel Priest is the exact same thing, with less role in the plot. Although not well explained yet, it seems the whole important stuff about the ritual and Goodwin's plans are about the Priestess, and the Priest is just "whatever". You think an article for Duel Priest is needed as well? I was thinking about merging both, name it "Duel Priest", and make a section for "Priest" and one for "Priestess". Wha'd'ya think? :P LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 01:31, December 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Who is the Duel Priest? I don't think an article would hurt, but merging them is also fine. Do what you'd like, I've not been following that manga enough to know. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:53, December 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Apparently, the Duel Priest/Priestess are somehow special people who conduce a ritual (guess what it is? yeaaah, a duel) to combat and seal the "darkness". Although both are supposed to be important, the manga only gives emphasis to Aki, who's the Duel Priestess, while Sect's just someone Aki must duel. Also, they say that if a Duel Priestess lose, the sun will hide and blah blah blah, and that her win became a kinda "tradition" 'cause of that. The Duel Priest seems to make no difference at all, he's just important 'cause the Duel Priestess must have someone to defeat. :P
 * Well then, guess I'll merge it. The two appear to be the same thing, just with different functions after all. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 02:15, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

Seeing as how this is a "quick-ask" section... Could you check User talk:WinterNightmare, and look at the "Videogame Glitches" section and provide your input? --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 05:33, December 27, 2012 (UTC) Yeah... I'm also at a loss on how to "move" pages, such as to SheepToken-WC6-EN-VG.jpg. Would you mind explaining how? I would have figured I should "rename" the page, but that doesn't seem to be an option on that page... Also, I don't know how to "move" pages without leaving redirects. Mind explaining that too? --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 05:52, December 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * You have to either be an admin or have mover rights. You can request the latter here. If you get those rights, you can move images and when you move anything, you'll have a checkbox that will suppress the creation of the redirect if you check it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 06:10, December 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Mmm, I'm going to have to ask you to move it for me. I barely have any uploads, and even though the move limit is annoying, sometimes I'm incorrect when I rename stuff, so it limits the damage I do. In short, I don't think I would qualify for privileges. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 06:20, December 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * You don't necessarily have to upload a lot to have the rights (some users that have them don't, actually). I would review the image policy a bit and then put your request in. Even if it doesn't go through, there's nothing stopping you from asking again another time. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 06:35, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for pushing me to put in a mover request and helping me with the image overwrite thing on Golden Key's page. New question though: I got the picture of the "Sheep Token" only by getting my opponent to attack it. The normal way of viewing is selecting the "Detail Screen" option on the Token when it is on the field (which produces only the artwork of the Token, and not the "Token" card itself). Should I upload the "Detail Screen" picture, or should I upload both pictures? Also, I suppose I should use the resolution the GameBoy Advance uses, and not enlarge the picture, huh? --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 07:46, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Uh, I dunno. For video game images, I'd ask Falzar FZ. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 10:07, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I can't say whether we'd only want one or both images (for that you should probably follow Cheesedude's advice of asking Falzar), but as far as resolution goes, you should use the original res of the image (which, if your emulator is any good, will be the native resolution of the GBC); this is what I did for the DM1 images I uploaded. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 11:32, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I upload the original resolution, but there is a reason for uploading a lower resolution one.
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:24, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I was thinking specifically of uploading higher-than-original resolution images; I've seen at least one DM2 image with a doubled resolution. To be honest, the thought of uploading lower-resolution VG images never occurred to me, for whatever reason. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 13:08, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, idk how to provide a higher resolution; I'm assuming by a lower resolution, you "enlarge" the image. I guess you "shrink" the image to get a higher resolution? Anyways, I don't think we've had any problems with the "fair use" policy yet haven't we? For now, unless anyone has any objections, I'm going to post them at their original resolutions. The only problem I foresee with the "fair use" policy is if that affiliation with Konami ever gets established in the future (maybe they'll want us to take them down?). --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 17:20, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, Falzar, if you could answer my 1st question too, I'd appreciate it. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 17:38, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * The one on video game glitches? It seems to have been resolved. Using things like gx03name for those names should work.
 * I don't think scaling the image up by using a bigger screen that usual counts as higher resolution, unless the file itself is a vector graphic (e.g. File:BAM-CP.png is a vector graphic in game, so I can get any resolution I want without losing quality).
 * It just lowers the chance a little, it's not like they will definitely tell us to remove it. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 21:53, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nah, I meant the question about the "Sheep Token", regarding which image (if not both) I should upload. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 21:57, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Your 2nd question is about moving pages. That would by your 3rd question.
 * Do you mean something like File:TheSelection-GX03-EN-VG.png and File:KingTigerWanghu-WC10-EN-VG-NC.png?
 * or without the details, like File:SpeedSpellTheShallowGrave-WC10-JP-VG.jpg.
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 22:15, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Maybe make it consistent with all the other GX03 images (which should only be File:ShinePalace-GX03-EN-VG.png and File:TheSelection-GX03-EN-VG.png) and take it from the deck construction screen.
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 23:31, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * The closest one to the others I guess, in this case, the battle screen one. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:22, December 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * I haven't uploaded any GX1 images, I renamed them to what they should be called, they were uploaded by Rkdew0.
 * The card border is part of the card, it shouldn't be taken off, you can upload a new version of those cards if you want. EDIT: nvm, I've uploaded new ones already. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:42, December 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Seems I got a bit confused on terminology; I was referring to an image's dimensions when I said "resolution". The specific image I mentioned was a case where the image had originally been uploaded properly-sized, and someone later doubled its size and reuploaded it. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:10, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

great idea Than?
each overlay network has a different color did you notice how it goes either on the ground or the top or behind the version so far on nelson did this with number 83 galaxy queen there colors of each overlay network is different colors when yuma summons utopia the color is yellow what stands for light types the purple is dark types red fire types and chaos xzy is darkish and green colors (107Number (talk • contribs) 05:03, December 27, 2012 (UTC))


 * I didn't. I know the "Numbers" use something different than the regular Xyzs and "Chaos Xyz" use a third, but I never noticed any more detail than that. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:18, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

RE: ZEXAL 80
Giving you a heads up. ---highly respect, Stark 18:45, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Duel Monster Spirits
Template:Infobox/Yu-Gi-Oh!/Character doesn't make that parameter into a link, so it doesn't have a link. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 20:23, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Card Replacements
Hey, I looked at your sandbox, I do like the idea, but it looks a little unorganised. Is there any way to tidy it up, say in tables or something? Also, yeah please. It's hard finding good quality dub videos, and most of the GX ones are subbed, so it's hard to get raw print screens. Thanks! TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 01:13, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to make tables on here, but something imagine the example below is a table:

Header: Character's name [dub image/sub image] - row 1/2 columns [description] - row 2/1 column

Then continue it on. I just think it looks a little untidy when loosely placed. TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 03:19, December 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that looks better. The only changed i'd make would be to make the card's names go in one line (possibly use bullet points?) and i'd convert the images to be the same size so that the table wouldn't look untidy. Also, sorry, posting like this makes me feel like i'm ordering you around X_x. TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 19:16, December 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * That does look good. I noticed you said you're screencapping from Dailymotion. www.watchcartoononline.com has good quality episodes for dub shots that don't have CN watermarks. It's also less laggy. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 19:54, December 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I like the look of the one in your sandbox Cheese. Also, that card is Queen's Knight. The card images are often affected by the time of day (in the anime), and that duel takes place at night (where the images are darkened). I thought it was an effect monster at first too, but what I can see of its artwork, it matches Queen's Knight. TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 03:02, December 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * We could do. Which ones lack images? I can't do anything on it in the next 2 days, but I can help out on the 2nd of January and forward. TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 03:14, December 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * I can get screenshots from most of DM (I can't find an episode with Vivian's hand in which is clear as there is a logo over her hand when its revealed). TheScarecrow14 (talk • contribs) 17:44, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

Idea
I have an idea about Sphere Field page take a look,New layout. ---highly respect, Stark 23:50, December 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * That looks fine, though you'd need to keep the Sphere Field Cannon subsection as well. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:00, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok ---highly respect, Stark 00:03, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

ZEXAL wiki....Again
Hey Cheesedude, it seems like the ZEXAL wiki has started to simply copy the images we use for some of the Zexal character pages. Also they have decided to copy our Number table that we use in Number, actually they copied alot, and they still refuse to give use any kind of credit. -- Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  21:00, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

GX manga characters section
Yu-Gi-Oh! GX (manga) previously had some anime information about the characters, such as Chazz using various Decks. Does all of the remaining information pertain to the manga? More specifically, the parts about Chazz and Jaden coming to a truce of sorts and Crowler making numerous attempts to get rid of Jaden? -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:25, December 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * They do come to a truce just like in the anime and it becomes more of a friendly rivalry. Crowler makes all of one attempt to expeel Jaden in the manga and only even does it because Midori isn't around. After she comes back, he seems to give up the grudge. Other than that, everything there appears accurate to me. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:33, December 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Is that the incident from Chapters 8 and 9? Although, there it was Syrus, he had on the risk of expulsion, while the worst that could happen to Jaden was having his Deck confiscated. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:53, December 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, it was. It's explained later that losing his Deck would have actually be far worse than expulsion for him though. If he lost his Deck, he's have no reason to be at Duel Academy, so he's probably leave anyway. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:00, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Cite error: Invalid tag; no text was provided for refs named ep_3
Just stumbled into this and saw that! -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:48, January 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * The note was originally on "Mind on Air", which an IP removed a few months back. Shortly thereafter, another IP re-added it without the note. Fixed. I'm shocked no one caught that sooner. Thanks, Fred.Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:10, January 1, 2013 (UTC)