User talk:Dark Ace SP

Prophecy Help
So I've been wanting to try out the Prophecy archetype for a little while now, the only problem is I don't know how to approach it. I've read the page for them, and the Low Key article on them on TCGPlayer but noticed that a lot of the builds I found just spam High Priestess, and thats not really what I want from the deck. So do you think you could give me a little advice as to where to start with an anti-metaish Prophecy deck? Thanks Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 16:01, November 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * I know that High Priestess is the main focus, but the builds I've seen tend to rely on her and say she needs to be ran at 3. But I was going to use 2 so I don't have to rely on her too much. I was thinking something like 2 Breakers, maybe 1/2 Kycoo, Tsukuyomi, 2 Apprentice Magicians, and Gorz for darks and 2 Veilers. I know that Hanged Man helps get Spellbook Magician, Temperance, and Justice but I'm not really a huge fan of him even though I will most likely use him. I'm just not sure if using traps would be right since I would have to lose some speed and consistancy. I'll probably make a build later today and see what needs work. Thanks for the insight. Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 15:32, November 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll definately try Tour Guide and Sangan, since I thought about adding them. I'll see what I can do for a deck now. Thanks for everything! Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 17:11, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Just letting you know that if you want to look at my current Prophecy build its on my user page, it works out quite nicely as it stands now. Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 21:49, November 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll probably just add in another Life since I open with a Wisdom most of the time. Out of the duels I played so far, which was like 10, I opened with atleast 1 Wisdom in about 6 of them and I hardly used Life. But at 41 cards it should still work fine with all the searching it does in 1-2 turns. Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 02:02, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Next Deck
Huh, I'd have figured that you would have given up on me. Okay, I'm game. Go ahead and throw another deck at me if you like. I'll do my best. -- - Kungfu-mama ( Talk ) 17:03, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Macro Infinity
hey dude hope you can help

I've been using this deck for a little while, it runs kinda slow. Could you tweak it for speed. Obvious keepers are Tyranno Infinity and Macro Cosmos as the deck name implies. Any help will be appreciated. thanks in advance!! Ravingrodent (talk • contribs) 17:21, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hello
I see that you have your hands full with things, by the way, do you know the link about that page you were talking about? I beleive it was called "The institution for better deck building" or something similar to that. I have some deck ideas (actually 2) but wasnt sure if you could help me with them. The first one is a gishki/atlantean&mermail deck. The second one is a Volcanic/Laval deck. Hopefully we could talk some more. Hope to see you soon! FlameLordD19 (talk • contribs) 07:30, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

2nd Deck
Please don't cry. I thought I'd give you what I have so far. Maybe you can help me fine tune it.

Since I wasn't allowed to build a Rock Stun deck (grrr), I decided to try more of an XYZ swarm style. Here's what I've come up with. I'll follow with a string of random thoughts.


 * Gogogo Giant - he calls out another monster, and he flips, setting off the effect of Attack the Moon!.
 * Gogogo Golem - Works with Giant and is a great blocker.
 * Block Golem - Yeah, calls back cards from the graveyard like heck. Must have in a rock deck
 * Chronomaly Colossal Head - Perhaps an odd choice, but his effect works so well with Attack the Moon! I thought it was a must have.
 * Revival Golem x3 Brings things back from the Graveyard. Oh yea.
 * Grandsoil the Elemental Lord Nice beater.  Couldn't resist throwing him in.
 * Giant Soldier of Stone is here more because he's a level 3, he fits the theme, and because, if flipped into defense, his DEF is 2000.


 * The spells and traps are pretty generic for rock decks except for a couple. I threw in a Shield & Sword to help cover Giant when he flips.  Zero Gravity gives me yet another means of capitalizing on Attack the Moon!.

So, that's it. No, I haven't play tested it. I thought I'd check with you to see if I'm on the right track first, and get any thoughts and opinions before I go any farther. Still not crying, I hope. -- - Kungfu-mama ( Talk ) 17:53, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Nah, haven't gone to DN yet to test this. Wanted to be sure my logic was solid first, and tbh, it's a little hard for me to find the time to do that AND build the deck.

I was thinking I should have stuck with 3 Gogogo Giant, and was a little worried about whether I'd be dumping fast enough into the graveyard. Dust Knight would be good for that. I kept Giant Soldier of Stone at 3 for XYZ summoning purposes (Giant Soldier of Steel and Soul of Silvermountain), since the only other level 3's are Block Golem and Grand Mole, and I'd like to revive Block Golem when I'm able. I was considering 2 CotH - thought testing would tell me better if I need it. As for the Koa'ki Meiru - I was stuck between Sandman and Wall, since I'm relying on Attack the Moon to be my MST. Again, I figured the better of those two cards would come out in testing. Of course, you could stick the one not in the deck in the side deck to swap out as needed. -- - Kungfu-mama ( Talk ) 15:39, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

Decks For Free!
Could you please open Decks For Free! again as soon as Kung-fu passes ur test? I'm really in need of ur own Cameron Clix Stun Build. Guardmaster (talk • contribs) 22:59, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

I'm back
Hi Ace, sorry for disappearing for a few weeks. I'm available again and I want you to know that I will make the exam deck you asked me (DFF) this week, and I intend to be an active member of this wiki from now (again).Nephthy (talk • contribs) 14:08, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Stardust Ruling
Hey sorry for the distraction but i need someone to response one of my forums, thought of if you can help me. lol Forum:Stardust VS Fire Fist Tiger SharkTenjo 14:15, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

Nephthy's test deck
So you asked me to make to build a deck around Ocean Dragon Lord - Neo-Daedalus as a test, so here it is. I used no OCG cards, as the main targets of DFF are not DN players, but real life players (as I know). Simple Frog deck, that can stall or help the summoning of Daedalus. More importantly, they can give you an advantage after using Daedalus or Neo Daedalus as they activate from the grave. Same goes for Slushy, which can revive Daedalus 3 times (or more, combined with Sea Lancer). The spell/trap support is pretty standard. Only special thing is Forgotten Temple of the Deep, this card is not just a Daedalus food, it's great with Swap Frog. It special summons, not returns as most of the cards like it, so I can use Swap's effect every turn, while I use Ronintoadin/Gachi Gachi as a sheild. I put in Moulinglacia, as Ronintoadin and Slushy can easily control the number of Water Monsters in my grave, it's rarely a dead draw, but I don't want to draw 3 of 1st turn, so it's on 1. If you draw the right cards and don't get OTKd in the first 2 turns, this deck is competitive. I beat Six Samurai and Agent decks sometimes, so no one can say a bad word about the deck. The only bad thing is that I can rarely use Neo-Daedalus, but I use the "weaker" version a lot.

Extra deck: 3 Gachi Gachi, 3 No96, and 1 Leviair + any other monsters, I use only these.

Optional cards: Feedback Warrior, more Moulinglacias, Froggy Forcefield.

I want to encourage you not to change your mind about restarting DFF. Give it a try, and if it fails after some weeks or months, then it fails, at least you tried and did it for a short period of time. I absolutely support the idea of DFF. Nephthy (talk • contribs) 11:40, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

DFF
I want to try to become a DFF deckbuilder. I can be on lots of times (mostly on the weekends) and I'd like to help your 'business' too.-- Let the Number take hold! 20:21, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

How's it looking? -- Let the Number take hold! 17:51, November 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Of course I'm up for it Ace, it will help the community and me and Nephthy grow as deckbuilders. Lets just hope we can get some more deckbuilders to be on the safe side. Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 04:19, November 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Vs. Assault Mode Dragunities:

http://i.imgur.com/dOO6w.jpg - Yeah, Even Needle Celing would've worked here.

Vs. A Rabbit Deck: http://imgur.com/38rRQ Bottomless to shut down the Gazelles, last card in hand was Rekindling. I don't run 3 because it can become too big of a dead draw. Especially with the deck having no specific drawing engine.

Inabiri is never a dead draw, I just happened to open that first duel with a Flamvell Magician in hand and make a quick special summon. I just happened to start of the first duel with 3 Fire King Fire Cycles in hand, those monsters and a Needle Ceiling, I don't know if it's just my luck, but I don't like it at 3.

Anyways, Safe Zone was a matter of personal picks. I wasn't very fond of Horn of the Phantom Beast, nor did I like it. Plus, Safe Zone just happens to own Dark Armed Dragon, Master Hyperion, etc. It's my way of saying "here, have a -1".

I would play Horn, but I'd rather not, since even with Firedog and the draw, Firedog is one of few cards vulnerable to attack traps in the deck. I usually risk but I'm not that into equip cards, despite whut card economy says about it.

The only change I could possibly make to the deck is to add a Forbidden Lance or something to boost up Firedog plays, but Garunix does its job so well that the opponent is usually forced to set some Firedog Fodder, or waste Mirror Forces tring to save himself.

Inabiri is the reason why Goka is at 2. Once I get Inabiri out and start abusing those Traps, Fire Cycles and Garunixes, he's never dead. Even with 2 copies of him, he's still easy to abuse with my defensive trap lineup.

Any other questions?-- Let the Number take hold! 05:25, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

http://imgur.com/hZIKE I see Flamvell Magicians, Scrap Dragon, Dire Wolf and Inabiri getting along quite well in this screenshot, wouldn't you agree?-- Let the Number take hold! 09:24, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

DFF test deck.
First, let me apologise deeply for the lateness of this, I have just been swamped. First my computer refused to cooperate, and then I had to deal with 4 exams. On the bright side, I passed all 4. Now without further ado, here is the deck.

This deck works well because it does not surround just one strategy. We have a terraforming to retrieve an Endymion, along with a Demise of the Land which I just think is an amazing card. We have out typical spell layout for Photon, and the speed this deck goes through the monsters and the spells means, once I draw Daedalus, the field is almost always prepared for it. This deck can still go off and win without Daedalus, and has many powerful Xyz to use. Personally, I have made this deck the best I can, and I am proud of the result. Also, here is a screenshot of the deck.

http://i.imgur.com/BWv5n.jpg

Thank you for your time.

BROOKLYN RAGE! 19:36, November 26, 2012 (UTC)User:BROOKLYN RAGE!
 * I thought I should respond to your points so here it goes.


 * Monsters:


 * The reason I had an extra Crusher was mainly because I felt I might need a late game Excalibur, and this could prepare me better.


 * The reason I put in Gainer...I would just say that is my own personal preference. While Shock Master is a good card, I've just never been that interested in it.


 * Spells:


 * I basically put in Demise of the Land as I find it amazing against Meta decks.  I also have my own rule in terraforming.  The number of Terraformings is equal to the number of field spells minus one.


 * I do see your point in poly, but I would only care to activate it if my chances looked good, otherwise I would probably play a less risky strategy.


 * Galaxy Zero is less preferred than Call of the Haunted, but I wanted to make the Spell and Trap line up mostly spells. With Royal Decree, Call would not have been a good idea.  I figured Decree would be good if I was relying on most spells, I hope that does make sense.


 * These are my reasonings, feel free to ask more.


 * BROOKLYN RAGE! 03:11, November 27, 2012 (UTC)User:BROOKLYN RAGE!


 * My bad, I kind of reread the bit about Dimension Wanderer. On the same page now. BROOKLYN RAGE! 04:06, November 27, 2012 (UTC)User:BROOKLYN RAGE!

Re:
The deck doesn't really seem that bad, a few questionable choices but every deck has their own interesting tech cards. Anyways I'm not really a fan of Goka, I understand why he is there since he does destroy a FIRE monster upon summon but I personally believe the slots could be used for something else, its an alright tech and 2200 atk isn't something to laugh at when you destroy a Garunix. I think Torretial can be better at 1 since Needle Ceiling can be used at anytime instead of a response to a summon, but I can understand the reasoning behind it. Maybe add in 2 Call of the Haunted, chains nicely to an opponent's MST or Heavy Storm to get Garunix on the field next turn. Also since the deck is mostly Beasts/Beast-Warriors another Dire Wolf would be nice, destoying Yaksha to destroy Garunix from hand can be powerful.

Also I find that Fire King Avatar Qilin to be a pretty good card none the less, have Qilin get destroyed by any means, pitch Garunix from deck, then SS Garunix with Monster Reborn/Call/Onslaught and it can devastate a field pretty nicely. And maybe another Wolfberk.

Overall I like the deck, I don't really see that much wrong with it. My build is more Xyz based than Synchro based but every duelist has their own style of play. If you want I can post my build up when I have time to see how I went with them, its still not perfect but it still runs like I want it to. Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 05:28, November 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Also I forgot to mention that MST can really help, since he doesn't really have a way of clearing backrow besides with Scrap Dragon, Heavy Storm and Dire Wolf, and a lot of the time the extra backrow destruction can really help. And maybe Compulsory Evacuation Device since its just a really good card this format. Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 05:37, November 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * So I've been looking over the deck some more, and I've read everything that you took note on, and also noticed that Inaribi doesn't seem like it should work with only 2 Spellcasters. I know that he said that Inaribi isn't a dead draw most of the time, but I don't see how, maybe 2 Summoner Monks could help with the Spellcaster situation or even take a page out from TCGPlayer's Jason Meyer's newest What The Fix article and add in 3 Madolche Magileine. Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 07:48, November 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I purposely chose to run just 2 spellcasters. If I wanted to run more spellcasters, I would've made it Laval turbo and summoned Arcanite Magician a lot. But then whatever happened to card effect destruction? I chose to run Fire King version because they special summon a lot and don't really need their normal summon, so Inaribi isn't a problem. I decided to abuse it's more important effect, if you want a fire spellcaster deck based on Inaribi, try Fortune Ladies, that'll be fun.-- Let the Number take hold! 08:04, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Deck tests
Both of me and BROOKLYN RAGE! are interesting in knowing this: So do we pass or wut.-- Let the Number take hold! 17:41, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

REsponse from Nephthy
Yes, you can reopen DFF and add me to the staff. I wrote a few words about me in my profile as you asked, and maybe I will add one of my decks later.Nephthy (talk • contribs) 19:54, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Re:
Thanks for the info Ace, I'll keep that all in mind. Also my DN name is the same here, Hastydemon2. Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 04:35, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

DN name
My DN name is boris12. I just wanted to know, how do you decide who gets which request? And anyways, thanks for letting us join.-- Let the Number take hold! 05:31, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hi
My DN name is Valami. I am happy for the restarting of DFF, and for I can be a member of it. Nephthy (talk • contribs) 07:16, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

DFF Requests
You posted about a problem with the requests, what exactly is wrong? --User:BROOKLYN RAGE! 18:57, December 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * And why delete those 2 requests? I was actually considering handling one of them.-- Let the Number take hold! 19:04, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

DFF request
Loom at the cosmic dragons deck request. Could you just tell me if I made a right call with the warning. Also, am I right in saying any of us can remove that request? --User:BROOKLYN RAGE! 16:29, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Ogre/Lord Deck
Sorry about it, I must not get the email about the post. -- E. G.G.  (My Contributions) 23:22, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry
I'm sorry that the swarm request in DFF got to where it was, I never intended for it to get like that nor did I expect it to turn out the way it did. Thanks for the support. Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 04:21, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

New deckbuilders?
Since DFF is starting to kick up again, I was wondering if you had any ideas for some new deckbuilders? --User:BROOKLYN RAGE! 05:53, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

WDC Idea
Right, the suggestions page fossilized. Again. Well, we haven't had activity there for over a month, but this idea just came to mind. We've had Decks focused around single archetypes, but what about Decks focused around a single Number Xyz Monster? I'm sure certain Numbers can be put to particularly lethal use with a Deck built around them, like No. 30. Chaos Numbers and ZEXAL Weapons are also free game. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 11:25, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

I've noticed that the Deck Guide project is dead...again. Maybe you and the other DFF builders can continue it Guardmaster (talk • contribs) 21:20, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Fire King Tech Card
Hey, I've been working on the new Fire Kings and I trying to figure out if manitcore of darkness would be a good tech. It can +1 with many cards, remain alive for many turns with Garunix (not really necessary), you can ditch it with many fire kings, and it can potentially make a 1 turn photon strike bounzer, basilicock, or exa-beetle. I haven't been able to make it work, but it could be the consistency of the rest of the deck I'm using. Do you think it's a good card in this deck?

--4drummer9553 (talk • contribs) 06:52, December 8, 2012 (UTC)4drummer9553


 * I don't think Manticore of Darkness really does much, plus the real reason to play the Fire Kings is to just abuse common cards like Dark Hole, Torrential Tribute, or Needle Ceiling. But if you want go look at Forum:Deck Contest 34: Destruction of the Inferno!, you might get some ideas. - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  14:37, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Red:New Deck Contest
Yeah I saw, but i won't be able to join this one; I'll try to see if I can join the next one. -- E. G.G.  (My Contributions) 18:59, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Decks for free
I see... But what do you mean, Tele-Dad with Fire Kings or just another different thing? -- E. G.G.  (My Contributions) 12:36, December 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, I would like a Fire King build with Choten. -- E. G.G.  (My Contributions) 16:39, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Re:
Actually it wasn't really, I sent it to him to see what his thoughts were since I was planning to use it for a while because I thought it would really make people think. But I'm quite shocked he chose that deck out of all the ones he gets. Sorry if I should have asked to send it in or mentioned that it was made for the Wiki. Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 20:17, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

About the holidays.
I sent 3 of my decks a few times to Jason and never even got a reply. I don't wanna have anything to do with that guy. As for some new rules, we might add a ruled for Meta decks to not be requested, as we have plenty of the galleries and there are too many flying around in tournaments.-- Let the Number take hold! 10:16, December 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I had the idea for a Fleur Turbo deck and a Butterspy Battle Position Change deck. I guess he just didn't find anything "interesting" in them.-- Let the Number take hold! 19:37, December 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, I posted them on my TCG Player profile quite a while back. They could use some work though.-- Let the Number take hold! 20:28, December 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * http://yugioh.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=90517 --- Here it is, don't ask me how it works, but you should know it beat Nexus' Evol deck in a full match.-- Let the Number take hold! 07:51, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Holidays and DFF 2013
I'm all for my deck being used as the example, I have no problem with that. I just got lucky with him picking my deck, and also never got a reply back which kinda confused me. But I believe we can make better use of the Application Center's space, whether we make it for deletion notices or just stuff for the deckbuilders.

As for the rules and guidelines, they all seem fine right now nothing really that bothersome. Its just those who don't read them who get irratating. Also I kinda like Number Hunter's idea, but not that we shouldn't take decks that are meta but to put a twist on them to make them stand out from the others.

Also happy holidays to you Ace. Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 05:04, December 13, 2012 (UTC)