User talk:BobaFett2/Archive 2

Archive One

Re: Thunder-End
That's something to consider. My original thought was a Frognarchs deck with 3 Blue-Eyes, 3 White Stones, 2 Gogiga Gagagigo, 3 Summoner's Art and 3 Ancient Rules. Ill definitely try both of them. And maybe a Blue-Eyes Disaster Dragon deck. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 00:41, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I do have to use Blue-Eyes, because Thunder-End demands Normal Monsters. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 17:40, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Psycho Ancient Wyvern
I literally lmao at your summary while witnessed you tore at least thousand words out of it. That was quite allot of remove in one official edit. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:09, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Just thought I mention this
I poke around decks that interest me alot, just to get ideas. So when I saw the Karakuri Aggro Accel Synchro listing, I naturally took a peek. In the explanation of the deck you published to help this person, you mention that you use Debris Dragon to search for Karakuri Merchant mdl 177 “Inashichi” - but that card isn't listed in your line-up. You may want to take another look-see.

BTW, thanks for all your past help. -- Kungfu-mama(talk) 14:12, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Clarification
You state in your description of your deck: Mind Control steals monsters for Synchro Materials, Debris Dragon Special Summons the Merchant . But Karakuri Merchant is not listed in the deck you posted.

-- Kungfu-mama(talk) 15:31, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Psyc
No Giant Rat?

- Resk ( ✩ ) 15:34, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

C&P from my page:


 * And you forgot "Flying Kamakiri #1", as he can helped summoning Wind-Type Psychic, as of Gusto. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  15:53, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say 7/10 for power.. Psychics are pretty weak without Synchro Summoning and the Synchro Monsters are usually nothing special. Overmind Archfiend summons ALL of the monsters it banishes. ESP Amplifier is useless because outside of Lifetrancer, there's no card in Banish-Psychics that permanently banishes a monster. Same with Psychic Feel Zone, Brain Hazard, and Bright Future. Genetic Woman only has 1700 ATK. Mention also that Psychic Snail is not a once per turn effect. Reinforced Human Psychic Borg has 1500 ATK. STorm Caller only gives the user 2300 points of damage. Other support cards: Prime Material Dragon and Rainbow Life. Icarus Attack in Gusto Decks. Half of them are Winged Beasts and they thrive on having monsters in the Graveyard. Typo in the first sentence of the Gig/Destructotron/Snail OTK... you call it "The Master Gig/Destructotron/Psychic Nail OTK" Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 17:40, August 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Rat goes in banish-psychics, as it lets them toolbox their toolbox
 * - Resk ( ✩ ) 18:58, August 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yo dawg, I heard you like toolboxing, so I put a Rat in your Psychics so you can toolbox while you toolbox. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 19:05, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Worm
Alien Brain is bad. There's Worm Call, which is Worm support.. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 02:19, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

HERO Beat
Anything I missed/edits that need to be made? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  21:43, August 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * I was thinking that, but if the Eater's are used for Gate, then there are no targets for Debris, but maybe, although I need to take out 1 card, 43 is not a nice number should we add another Debris. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  22:05, August 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm, actually I like the deck the way it is. I've played 4 games, and won 3. The deck's pretty good. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  23:16, August 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, don't need any more edits, the deck works really well. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  04:03, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Dragunity Side Deck
It's not a bad idea in theory, but you're switching from a good deck that would be hurt by Macro to a bad deck that would be hurt by Macro. If you do plan on trying it, Dodger Dragon would be better. And did you really mean Life Stream Dragon, or something else? Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 17:23, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blue Eyes White Dragon
Can you please explain to me how this deck will work http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Blue_Eyes_Swarm/Lockdown_Deck&t=20110814141202

i am also interested in why you added a book of moon

206.248.174.139 (talk) 22:59, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Open WDC
I'll ask the old Admins. about it. I really wanted to try to reopen the WDC a while back, but I didn't know how many people would want to reopen it, plus I never got reply back from DemonGodAsura, so I abandoned my attempts. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  03:40, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * You already asked. OK, then. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  03:42, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Were you going to take the Gadget Burn? I might have an idea for it. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  16:08, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sure. You know I've always liked the Legendary Planets, why not do that? We could even add in The Atmosphere even though its not a planet. Or we could revisit an old competition like Pretty Covers, but use Booster Packs. Oh, and before I forget we could just reopen the WDC without Runerh5's permission, if he doesn't answer soon, but when it does open let's give a invitation to all the best deckbuilder's we know, Lappyzard, Resk, maybe us, or we could just advertise it on the General Forum. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:00, August 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * That would be nice too.Anyway after we hear from Runer/don't hear. We'll go ahead and redesign the Overview page/add a better Archive list, like the one on DFF. -- - Dark Ace SP™  ( Talk )  02:07, August 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Your gonna have to remake the Disaster Thunder End deck, poster has issues with it. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  13:58, August 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Trivi-AM(Another admin of WDC), said it would be fine for us to restart the WDC. So, redesign the entire overview page? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  21:43, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Look this over

 * Look this over.

The poster wants a non-competitive version, but the Wanghu were just too good. Anyway look this over to see if I missed something. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  23:56, August 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Read the WDC Overview, I redid it, you can add/change anything you see fit. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  00:11, August 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about the build, I already posted it. Anyway looks like Legendary Planets might become our first competition, so did you want to do all, or just the printed ones(including the Sun). -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  13:46, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

So, that would be Splendid Venus, Elemental HERO Terra Firma, The Big Saturn, The Tyrant Neptune,and The Supremacy Sun, and we could start today, I'll post on the General Forum to make sure people know, but how many people per Planet? 1? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  13:51, August 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * You make the competition page on WDC and I'll post on General Forum. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  13:54, August 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Tell me when you finish the Contest page, then I'll post on the General. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  14:01, August 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * September 2011 Banlist for competition or not? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  14:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll go ahead and say we'll use the September 2011 Banlist as posted by Shriek, and should Konami post the banlist a little early, to go by that. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  15:45, August 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Make the Scrap/Zombie into a Zombie World deck? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  23:01, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I was thinking of Zombie Master's text wrong. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  23:06, August 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * I have nothing, they both seem like they would work, but don't because they have different ways of getting monster to the grave, Zombies use Lightsworns and Scraps use storm. Maybe a few Horn of the Phantom Beast? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  23:28, August 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * An afternoon of advertising WDC paid off, we got more contestants, and I also added back the contestants page so I can use it for contact purposes. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  22:41, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Macro Beatdown Help
I don't know what's up with this build, could you please comment on it? The poster wants the Helios and I'm pretty sure no Tour Guide, so any thing else we could do? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  22:51, August 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * That also occurred to me, hmm well we already said we'd give them until Wed., so how about a contest every starting every Thursday/Friday, but ending on Tuesday/Wednesday of the next week, starting week after next week? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  01:50, August 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * What day you you regularly want to start it/end it? Thursday - Tuesday or Friday - Wednesday? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  01:54, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Semi-Staple

 * Note that that article is for what cards are SEMI-STAPLES. Not what cards are used for "anti-meta." Skill Drain doesn't even come close to being considered for virtually any deck as an option. Mind Crush has consistently been a popular option as a Side Deck choice, and will likely reclaim that place in the coming format, but for now, I'll accept the removal of it, but understand what you're editing before you jump in blindly.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 14:46, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Normal Guide
Thank you, I didn't have a chance to proofread it because it was late and my computer can't handle when I create insanely long forums. I will fix it today. Anyways, Level 3 decks do have some better support than level 4+ (Fitting Room, Attack of the Cornered Rat) and you can also include level 2 or lower monsters and support. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 15:37, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Assistance w/ Deck
Wikia's being freaky and apparently not registering my contributions on RecentChanges. So I'm telling you that I responded.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 19:50, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Labbit Deck
Any comments on this?

Forum:Labbit Lagia

- Resk ( ✩ ) 00:49, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Tyrant Neptune
Thanks! The worst part is, thinking about it now, that's not even the best I could have done - using Malefic Cyber End Dragon and Malefic Rainbow Dragon would have worked even better. But anyways, thanks a bunch. Battlemaniac (talk • contribs) 15:30, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Name
I've never seen that before :3

Basiclly, my 4 online names (Slefe, Resk, Rijj, Terigik) all came from soul calibur II, the character creator in it, i ended up using custom names (ofc), and simply made them by declaring 'constant, vowel, consent' based on what was already there, then editing them after to make it look like a name :3

(Resk is short for Reskefek, which was the original version, but that doesn't fit in a number of games, so was shortened :3)

- Resk ( ✩ ) 22:37, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re:
Next week on Thursday, the theme will be the random cards pages 10 times. We'll ask the WDC contestants to post on Wednesday, and announce the results on Friday or Thursday(Tell me which day you would prefer). -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:45, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll announce the winner on Friday at around 5 PM Central Time, if you want you can do it earlier. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:56, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Did you want to do the Random page x10 or the "How the **** do I summon this?" ? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  23:25, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * So these would be the options for "How the...summon this?"?


 * Gate Guardian
 * Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth
 * Dragon Master Knight
 * Armityle the Chaos Phantom
 * Valkyrion the Magna Warrior
 * VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult Cannon
 * Mirage Knight
 * Machina Force
 * Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare
 * Flying Fortress SKY FIRE
 * Gaia Drake, the Universal Force

Double check it for me, and I'll create the contest page on Thursday. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  03:02, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Made the page a little early, add anything you feel needs adding. Forum:Deck Contest 19: How the **** do I summon that? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:30, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Person wished to Join DFF
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:SquirtleHero

First 2 people to post a trial on his talk get to place a trial :p

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 11:46, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Second Test Complete!
so i thought about it and i realized that this was a very easy build. I helped my friend build several varients of "Roid" Decks, including a B.E.S.Roid deck. Anyway here is the varient that I picked.

Ok so i decided to take a Jadai approch to the deck making it fusion summon on a consistant basis, using means other than Polymerization to make my machines more powerful. I included Cyber Dragon and his fusions to make for very quick, powerful beatsticks to help even the playing field. I also decided to add in Armoroid because of his effect. With this decks ability to quickly swarm the field, meeting his summoning conditions is no problem and is effect to get rid of your opponents back row makes him invaluable. SquirtleHero (talk • contribs) 01:48, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Xyz Materials
Congratulation, you have successful proved them wrong. I am glad to have you siding me this week :-) -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  03:29, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Dark Gaia Wicked Heroes
Hi,

I'm quite new to Yugioh, and I was just browsing your decks for Dueling Network use when I came across the Dark Gaia Wicked Heroes. It looked pretty freakin sweet haha XD. So naturally I decided to test it out. And also naturally, I had no idea how to use it and failed miserably. Any help/strategy would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Fellow Yugiohlover24.22.221.148 (talk) 05:27, September 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Is this a deck that I made? BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 13:28, September 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I believe so. The Wicked Heroes deck? 24.22.221.148 (talk) 22:17, September 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * OTK decks are generally not competitive for long if they ever reach metagame status (as this type of deck never did). Basically, just Fusion Summon Dark Gaia and attack them twice (or for double damage with Megamorph). BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 01:04, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Wrong
I was curious as to what was wrong with the build of the deck I submittedSquirtleHero (talk • contribs) 15:45, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

close tags
You might want to close your nowiki tag, in the rock forum,

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 23:50, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re: General Guide
I think I'll make a general point about stall cards. Thanks. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 16:44, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Crush/Shoot
If any of them ever allow you to know a card in your opponent's hand (e.g. Compulse) then run 1 Dustshoot and 1 Mind Crush in that deck. Otherwise, there isn't one that's better or worse than the others, but definitely run Crush and Shoot together. I guess I'd say put them in Agents because if you miss with Mind Crush you can drop a dead Shine Ball. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 00:10, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Exodia Guide
Oh, and Tour Guide is still useful, because you aren't forced to Xyz with it, it just gets you the Sangan. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 00:11, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Deck Guides
yeah, I just started coming back onto the wiki and I have noooo Idea what this deck guide business is about, so yeah, whats the deal, aren't there pages for these things? It's on a public forum so I thought why not. Sorry in any case.--Helix-king (talk • contribs) 17:38, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Section
I made the WDC 19 sections, sorry for delay. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  03:16, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Voting System?
One of the last participants was complaining about the way we set up votes. So wanna do something like the following?

BEWK

 * -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:28, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

BF2
Like the above? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:28, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, his deck's are always really good and well thought out, but we also need to calm the fears on our participants. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  23:28, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

New Guide Writer
Battlemaniac has expressed interest in becoming a Guide Writer. Your thoughts on the the matter? (I just wish there was something like the Dark Sun for this..) Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 21:17, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

His WDC decks are a bit iffy, and the decks on his user page don't give much encouragement either. I'm hesitant to say yes. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 00:02, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to see what Gadjiltron thinks, because he's the only other active Guide Writer (not that any of us are actively writing Guides...) but he doesn't seem to be active on the Wikia at all. I suggest we tell Battlemaniac something like: "Thank you for your interest, however, we have concluded that you are not yet suited for the position. Please study up on competitive play, and when we see improvement in your future decks, you may be asked to join." Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 00:40, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Red Nova Dragunity...
It's possible, if you playing the cards correct - I run my own version of Dragunity Deck; and successful summon Nova Dragon up to five times since it birth. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:35, September 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just playing it at right time. If I had Red Dragon Archfiend out on the field, and has two Dragon Tuners (one that can summon then redirect other summon from hand) along with Dragunity Militum; I could summon Level 2 Tuner, redirect to summon Militum and attached the little dragon to her. I now using her effect to summon the recently equipped monster. Next with the continuous spell support; I equipped the said dragon you picked to her again, and used that dragon's effect. Viola; Red Nova Dragon on my hand. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:45, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Gravekeeper's Staples...
Just to ask you that you created and made an article about Gravekeeper's, correct? If not, please point me to correct article developer. Thank you :-) -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:58, September 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, alright, thank you anyways. I just wanna know a point about that trap that can revive GK without being bothered by Necrovalley... -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:02, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

HERO
Forum:Miracle HEROs V. Ace -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  01:06, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Next WDC
So, should we do the Random Page ten times for our next competition? If you want to do that, I'll let you set up the pages/contact contestants this time. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:37, September 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Cool. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  01:29, September 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, high school started for me as well, but I should be able to do it this time(today), I'll be done with work fairly quickly. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  22:22, September 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * So, these are the card that appeared, see any major problems? If not, I'll make the contest.


 * Tiger Axe
 * Winged Dragon, Guardian of the Fortress
 * Swing of Memories
 * Steelswarm Caucastag
 * Genex Furnace
 * Alien Psychic
 * Jigen Bakudan
 * Simorgh, Bird of Ancestry
 * Elemental HERO Mariner
 * Marionette Mite

-- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  01:37, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Posted the above cards onto the WDC 20 page. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  23:52, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

RE:Samurai Assault
I honestly don't know. All I did was correct its spelling to link it properly. You're free to remove it if there's no proof that it's a promotional card.--PoirotH (talk • contribs) 18:31, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Nordics
Yo, just wondering why you're so quick to delete things from the Nordic page. It's very counter productive, seeing as how a lot of people I know who play Nordics are upset with the fact that aside from those two decks listed there are very few options listed there. So may I ask why you feel you need to delete anything that alters the Nordic page from it's current state? It's not helping anyone who plays in the slightest by limiting options. Oh and also in terms of your reasons for getting rid of those cards. Broken Blocker while situational can allow you to summon out two Gods in one turn if it's activated on Tanngnjostr and I've done this multiple times so I can confirm this is a pretty damn solid tactic. Ryko I added as he is just an overall decent add, not only does it add more to dissuade your opponents from attacking you and give you added card destruction for the deck, something which Nordics need desperately but being a level 2 you can tune him with Guldfaxe and Super Nimble Mega Hamster to make yet another Thor, or if you don't have a Hamster out you can still summon Brionac. Plus you can search for him via Hamster as well making him even more effective. Miracle's Wave is sooooo much better than call of the haunted for 2 reasons, one it allows your monster to return 'after' the battle phase (meaning Tanngnjostr is safe from having to battle) in defence position, meaning once again Tanngnjostr can activate his effect straight away and perhaps snag you a God and two because it's closer to Monster Reborn than Call of the Haunted you can instantly revive an opponents monster you just destroyed. Anyway even if you just once again say 'nah' to all this please at least consider helping to alter the page in such a way that other players are not turned off of Nordics by the lack of info available on different ways to play with them.

--The FireFALL (talk • contribs) 21:41, September 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Some of the points you made are valid, others are not. Broken Blocker is much too situational a card to be used effectively, I would never recommend it to anyone in anything. Ryko is correct. Miracle's Wake is somewhat viable, but again I would not recommend it at all. For everything except Tanngnjostr Call of the Haunted is better, and if you let your Tanngnjostr get run over you're playing the deck wrong. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 21:53, September 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I still don't think Ryko makes sense for the deck. You only need a few cards in your Graveyard... BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 22:14, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

BTW
"If you already have a deck, if you post it in the Deck Template form, we'll revise it and give you our insight"

is part of our DFF statment :p

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 21:25, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Decks for Free bad link
It has been brought to my attention that people have been posting requests in the redirect page that we have never been able to see. I posted a message on all of their walls telling them if they re-requested and said they had been a victim of this misunderstanding, their request would be given high priority (perhaps just a "Priority" tag, similar to the "Finished", "Resk", etc. tags). I assume you have no problem with this and will act accordingly. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 21:42, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

DFF Galleries
Monster Gallery preview is here. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 00:15, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Gravity and Stumbling
It's better to ask questions on the forum. Also, this question has been asked before; twice. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:21, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Redirect
I'm not sure, but you can check for yourself, Deltaneos linked to the edit page in his post, I don't know if anything has been done since. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 14:01, September 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * I believe they were taken off, Decks for free! -- - Dark Ace SP™  ( Talk )  15:22, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re:gionals
link me them all,

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 22:02, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Definitely not Dragunities unless you can get 2 more Vaj and 1 more Phalanx, and even then probably not. Reasons: 1. Most people know how Dragunities play and are capable of dealing with them. 2. Heavy is at 1 and MST is at 3. You rely heavily on Ravine, so this fact is crippling. I know you run Magic Drains to prevent this, but with people playing less Traps and more Spells they have more cards with which to force their Heavy/MST through.

Karakuris just topped, so it won't be long before people know how to beat them effectively. There is already the threat of Chimeratech because everybody sides Cyber Dragons. However, the deck is still fairly unknown and has a lot of explosive power. This is one of your two choices, and my second recommendation.

Gladiator Beasts is your other choice, and the one I recommend most if and only if 2 conditions are first met: 1. You are an extremely good GB player. 2. Your deck is teched out specifically to beat the current meta (Agents and Tengu Synchro), which it currently isn't. In this case, that probably means running Fissure Glads (hurts a lot of the meta, Plant Synchro has to scoop to it, Hyperion can't blow stuff up) with good cards to deal with Agents and Plants. Thunder King is a great option for this, I'd suggest maining 3 as it hurts every deck out there. If you go the Fissure Glads route, drop the Hero stuff. Talk to me if you decide you want to play GBs and I'll help you get the deck ready.

Absolutely everyone will be prepared for Agents, and if you aren't running them with 3 Tour Guide, Sangan, and BLS, then don't even try. It's not worth it.

In short, I recommend first GBs (talk to me about it though, your build needs work) and second Karakuris. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 22:27, September 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Agents are running Tour Guides because it lets them play BLS. I'll make you a Fissure Glads deck shortly. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 22:52, September 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * D.D. Crow has been largely replaced by Effect Veiler, but it's still seeing some play, partially because it's a DARK that goes the Graveyard easily. It's still a completely viable side deck card though. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 23:36, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

So yeah, should look something like that. I wish I had a better idea of the meta though. It's still early in the format. Side deck can be whatever you think will be helpful, but it should include 2-3 Light-Imprisoning Mirrors. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 23:57, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

In a Fissure build, you can probably get away with 1 Essedarii. 2 would be better though. I really doubt you'll ever need more than 2 Gyz and 1 Herk, the extras are mostly there for the "just in case". Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 00:34, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Also, Bottomless is a really nice side deck card against Agents, just make sure you keep at least 2 Compulse to deal with Gachis. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 00:35, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Actually going for Gachi has become pretty standard, as it takes the previously weak Venus and makes it 2000, powers up everything nicely, and it's a huge pain to get rid of. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 00:50, September 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Also, they don't always have a Tuner. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 00:50, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

I had a look over your dragunity, and noticed 2 things:
 * There isn't a Drago
 * There isn't enough draw power.


 * how's that look to you?
 * Another idea is to MAIN deck 2x D.D. Crow/2x Light-Imprisoning Mirror and side them out as you would for Avarice vs GK's


 * Side:
 * 3 d.d. crow
 * 1 Koa'ki Meiru Drago
 * 2 Twister
 * 2 System Down
 * 3 Light-Imprisoning Mirror
 * Other stuff you probably won't bother to use <,<


 * That fesible for you?
 * - Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 10:48, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

MV Fissure is an interesting concept, and would be unexpected, but unfortunately doesn't really work. A Dragunity deck has more of a chance than even a dedicated Mist Valley deck, which yours wouldn't be. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 20:04, September 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * For the Drags, it's what i find works, but anyway, probably doesn't matter, as based on last 2 big tournaments, everyone is running 3 rai-ohs which hurt it too much :3
 * - Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 22:26, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Recent tourn on shriek, even though it's small, at least 2-3 people would have been agents, 2-3 dark world, and as it's over 18 people, it would have been 4 rounds of swiss with a cut to top 4 :3

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 22:12, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re: WDC
Improved Archetype Gameplay, I just added my real vote. It should be fairly interesting, and should we have a list of Archetypes? Although that would be very long, want to have the contestants choose their Archetype and post on the WDC page? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  13:40, September 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * That, seems best. I'll let you pick them. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  14:24, September 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I usually make it a day or 2 before Thursday, so around Tuesday, should be good. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  18:29, September 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey, you are making that Destiny on a Budget deck right? You're probably testing it, but just reminding you in case you forgot. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  23:53, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Agents and Gladiators
GBs: It's an interesting tech, but I'd rather just run more defensive cards, as they're much less dead-drawy and are actual one for ones. Agents: If you can pull it off it might be worth a shot, but regular Agents are probably still better even after your opponent side decks. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 19:17, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Commonly? No. Effectively? Yes, very, and in twos. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 20:55, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Go the bare minimum. 1 or 2 tops if you can manage it. If they chain to Venus, stop there. Gachi is not worth giving them 2 more draws. You can make it later with another Venus because you still have 2 more Shine Balls. At any rate, stop as soon as possible. If you have everything you need to synch, and synching will keep you in the game, do it. If you think summoning will help you deal with the extra cards better than stopping, that's up to you, but I'd advise against it. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 22:10, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Signature Missable
Just to let you know that you didn't have a create signature for that link Cheese was giving out. It's because Community Wikia don't have the "BobaFett2/signature" article while this does. So I would just remind ya before you go ahead n forget that. I already created one for myself over there. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:20, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Agent Guide
"Suddenly, "The Agents" received three new monsters, including a new boss monster, including a searcher." Reword that, it sounds weird. Gachi is now the preferred play, even if Trishula is an option. Cards from the Sky and Plant Synchro have redlinks. Hyperion's description: "you can one destroy cards". Shine Ball should say it's good for making Gachi instead of being good for Synchro Summons. Jupiter's description: "makes it great-alone". It looks like great-alone is a hyphenated word. You need to separate these ideas more. Same in Mercury's description. Don't list Freed, it consumes a Graveyard that is better off being used for Hyperion. Gachi is listed under Synchro monsters, which it is not. Cards from the Sky is redlinked, and you're making it sound better than it actually is. TBH, it's not a great card for the deck, it should be run at 0-1, 2 tops. Don't list D Fissure, Agents need the Graveyard. Don't list Gold Sarc, it's still bad for the deck. 3 Hyperion is needed in standard, Birdman is not. CFTS is again redlinked. In Sanctuary Agents and Valhalla Rush, Zeradias and CFTS are redlinked. 3 Tour Guide is necessary for Chaos Agents. RFTDD is tech, but not needed. Fissure Agents is probably not even worth listing. It's so far inferior to all the other builds that I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 19:21, September 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Where is the T.G. Agents ?_?
 * - Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 21:47, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Whether or not you agree with it, Gachi is now the preferred play. Since the format of set 4 is over, it's much harder to maintain an Earth on the field while you wait to be able to summon Venus and go into Trishula. Even with Birdman, which would you rather have? 2700 Trishula and 1 card out of your opponent's hand, and an inconsequential 1600 Venus, or a 2900 Stardust and a near indestructable 2200 wall that takes those 1600 Venuses and makes them 2000, takes the 1800 Jupiter and makes it 2200 with the ability to go to 3000?

Again with CFTS, whether or not you agree with it, it's not played in successful builds. Pot of Duality is much better. The only thing CFTS is good for is first turn with a dead Shine Ball in hand which you will use anyway if you have Birdman, or dead Kristyas which are pretty rare. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 22:10, September 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * T.G. agents is one of the most common competetivie build, winning tournaments, based around pure advantage & swarming .-.
 * http://shriek.twoday.net/stories/41787761/
 * http://shriek.twoday.net/stories/41785825/
 * http://shriek.twoday.net/stories/41781250/
 * http://shriek.twoday.net/stories/41781340/
 * There's a couple of them,
 * - Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 03:36, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

I knew it's typo... but...
"POT OF GREED IS BANNISHED!?FWFLVI" Honestly, It sound like "banish" rather than "banned"... Are you sure you're alright, friend? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:50, September 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Understood, if you have your mind change - just stop type and mending your mind back to original track. It would help prevent the gibberish word like that "Banissed" or something. It seemed little new to me when I see it. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  01:14, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Fairy Wind
"Fairy Wind" will destroy all face-up Spell or Trap Cards. They do not have to be continuous. DemonGodAsura (talk • contribs) 19:11, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Fissure Glads Update
No I would not recommend Starlight Road, because it'll just get MST'd or Grapha'd, and then you'll be sad. I would recommend instead a change to Dimensional Prison, which I'm starting to do anyway just for the prominence of Agents. You might consider dropping the Grand Mole, possibly for a third Duality, because once the meta becomes Agents and Dark Worlds, Grand Mole won't be as good. You should still side deck it though, because it's good against a lot of other decks. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 22:02, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

It's not bad, but the biggest threats of the deck are Hyperion and Kristya, which Grand Mole does nothing against. You can run it as tech if you want, ti's not like it's a bad choice. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 22:52, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Sabers for Regionals
Forum:Lappy - Revamped Sabers for Regionals. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 22:52, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Ectoplasma in FL
It could work, but you wouldn't deal any damage as it says "original ATK". Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 20:21, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

proof?
try checking every youtube video with a legendary collection 2 opening.... --Yes, im Pato (talk • contribs) 22:59, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

im new here and dont know how to operate much, i didnt really comprehend your post on my pyrokinesis deck help thread, maybe elaborate on what u posted in text form?

Honestly
Never expect of your exist in DN. So let's hope we can duel one day there :-) -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  02:09, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Karakuri
For the deck guide, present and future DFF requests, and your own personal interests: 3 Genex Neutron is now standard in Karakuri. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 19:17, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Most likely it adds consistency, and the +1 is always nice. 2 decks each going through 10 rounds of Swiss with a record of 8-2 or better with 3 of a card pretty much makes it a staple for the deck. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 22:41, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Dead draws are bad/relying on one card is inconsistent? Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 22:48, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

No offense meant, but I'd go with the two winning builds over yours. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 22:53, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Guardians
Arsenal Summoner is a good/obvious choice for Guardians, but my build uses the grave to get the cards I need for the turn. Plus, Arsenal Summoner doesn't stay long enough on the field to be of any use-Ryko has a much better effect. Elite Wolf (talk • contribs) 23:28, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Loops Deck Guide
I've noticed a factual inaccuracy with your Forum:Deck Guide/Decks and Loops. You say that the Future Fusion FTK is 100% successful not counting responses, but this is wrong. If you mill Monster Reborn with Glow-Up Bulb (which you have a 1/16 = 6.25% chance of doing, assuming Reborn is still in your Deck at this point), you'll be unable to complete the FTK. Battlemaniac (talk • contribs) 19:37, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Chocolate Heroes
... That's not even a question, never mind being weird. And I've never seen orange chocolate. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 21:44, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Funny
I was just about to say that I would run the next one, then you posted. Anyway, sure. Should it be the Duel Terminal? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  23:03, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * And we are banning: X-Sabers, Worms, and what else? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  23:03, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * So, should I pick about 10 Archetypes? -- - Dark Ace SP™  ( Talk )  23:06, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ice Barrier
 * Naturia
 * Jurrac
 * Gem-Knight
 * Laval
 * Vylon
 * Flamvell + Neo Flamvell
 * Gishki
 * Sacred
 * Verz + Steelswarm


 * How do those look? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  13:24, October 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Are you building the Relinquished Monarchs, or are you testing the deck? If you haven't started on, then I'll take it. Remember that you're also making a Drill Warrior Deck. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  21:51, October 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * So, did you also want the Relinquished Deck as well, or can I make a Relinquished Deck? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:08, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Zombie Plants
Sounds like a fairly solid concept. Draw up a list. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 02:14, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Looks pretty good, but you listed BRD as a Main Deck monster. Assuming that was an error and your monster coutn is actually 25, I'd say -1 Doppel (personal preference) +1 Sangan, and then +1 MST for 40 cards. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 02:45, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Busy
Are you online atm?

I'd like to test a DN deck :3

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 23:42, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Exodia
Give me a couple days. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 18:52, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

Nope. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 21:01, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sphinx
Seems fine.

Tengu.

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 00:30, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Nitpicking: "Pyramid of Light" will destroy and Banish bother "Andro" and "Teleia" should probably be "both". Gets rid of the negative effects of "Barbaros" and "Teleia" should probably be Andro and Teleia, as BKB doesn't have negative effects, and you mention him later.

Agree on Tengu. Imperial Custom doesn't protect Horn. T.G.s should always be played at at least 2 of each one you're using. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 00:43, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Rock Build. Battle Mania.

Most obv' thing, might notice more later.

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 18:33, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Rat, I didn't see it coming...
Do you remember that forum I had with "Ratbox" in the topic, yes? I didn't realized that he, who you had argued in the past, came and actually helped me with my deck recipe. It made him sound very experience with "Toolbox" deck like that. He's surprise not got in fight with me... -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:31, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sphinx Deck Guide
Nice guide, but I feel you've missed out a few crucial cards from the Defensive Rock build. Burden of the Mighty, Half Shut, Battle Mania, Continuous Destruction Punch, and a few monsters, Legendary Jujitsu Master and Golem Sentry more than any others. Personally, I'd quite like to write an overall Rock guide - I think I'd do it quite well - but for now I'm happy to just give my suggestions. Battlemaniac (talk • contribs) 20:48, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Half Shut is great. Either you use it on your opponent's monster to inflict more Battle Damage (the whole point of the deck), or you use it on your own monster to protect it from destruction by battle, in which case the ATK halving won't matter, since you'll be in Defense Position. Trust me, I've tried it, and it really does work wonders, and its easily better than Shrink in that deck type. Battlemaniac (talk • contribs) 18:36, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah, and I also forgot to mention Fairy Box as an essential card. Battlemaniac (talk • contribs) 18:38, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Then you really haven't got the point of the deck. Battlemaniac (talk • contribs) 21:16, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks for clearing that up. On a side note, could I do a general Rock deck guide? I definitely have the experience, and almost no-one is making guides any more. Battlemaniac (talk • contribs) 21:27, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Battlemaniac (talk • contribs) 21:29, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Deck
It's searchable & maintable, if one goes to grave, the other two go to hand, and can be banished the following turns for gate, Also, it can be sent with FF,

It's entirly concept though, so doesn't mean it's actually thought through :3

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 00:10, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

WDC 22
A reminder: The due date is tomorrow October 15, 2011. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:40, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Planning for WDC 23
So far, so great. I mean we've done like 5 competitions already. So it looks like WDC 23 will be Card Rarity Limitations, how the heck are we gonna do that? Pick 3-5 Boosters, and give set rarity limitations for that specific pack. Like even though Krista is a super rare in tins, it was a Secret Rare in Stardust Overdrive, so people could only use 1 copy of it, saying we pick Stardust Overdrive? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  23:44, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

P.S. : Thoughts on Forum:Koa'ki Rage V. Ace? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:05, October 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've also been thinking we could do something like a Trick Battle, but use Dark Arena instead.


 * And as for the Rarity limits, maybe just tell them to use 1 Rarity of their choice? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  22:09, October 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * I meant that instead of doing card rarities, we could do something where Dark Arena is always in play, like Speed World in the anime, and no real life field spells could be played at all, and then the contestants would have to build decks around it.
 * The Rarity thing: I meant we tell the contestants that the deck they build, must contain cards that are all the same rarity.

-- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  22:15, October 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Should we do selected numbers or should we do Random page to buy more time to think of more ideas? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:47, October 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:53, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re:
Okay sorry about the rude comments but i honestly dont see how Absolute Zero is better but i agree hes cool, Elemental Hero Terra Firma can deal a lot of direct damage by activating his effect after you destroy your opponents field with cards like Stratos. Elemental Heroes are my Life and soul my deck is based off quick death and recycling heroes back into the deck. i would also like to know why do you think Defensive Tactics is bad? if anything its better than Waboku cause it recycles back into the deck after the attack. --RainClaw (talk • contribs) 13:26, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Ladys
Doesn't seem to have any problems that i can see,

Might want to mention spellcaster village build

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 01:01, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Got it!--RainClaw (talk • contribs) 13:48, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
okay can you give me a six samurai deck list? with only six samurai! i want an archetype deck completely made of 1 kind of card and why do people say that solidarity doesnt work on synchros? >:(--RainClaw (talk • contribs) 13:48, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Forum Updated
Just to let you know that I got your message and changed equal to your and Designless comment. That would taking 5 cards out of main and at least half of Extra Deck taken out - rest of those Fusion Monsters required "Dark Fusion" in order to summon directly. So thank you again for your help, feel free continue to help. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:54, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Cloudians
I'll look over it properly later,

Where's the Toon Cannon Soldier OTK build?

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 00:11, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Updates
I've been thinking about that for a while, some of them are really out of date. I think an update would be good for most of them. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 19:06, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Forum talk:Deck Guide/Dark World
Read this, BobaFett. There is something wrong with your DG. Samurai Bruxo Discussão/Talk 00:45, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

DFF Application
Trials for ~ User:Synchro Maniac10 ~ go!

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ ) 00:43, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re:
Well, even tough Monarchs are an Archetype, you only have maybe 4-6 Monarchs, in the deck, plus they require a tribute engine of some sort to really be effective. As for Chaos, you only use a max of 4 Chaos monsters, then the rest is made up of Dark/Light Monsters, Twilight will have a note, saying, see Lightsworn. We considered all the Archetype decks to have 8-10 of that Archetype, while anything less went into Theme. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  15:05, October 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey can you hop over to Lappy's talk page, and look at that Relinquished Deck? Thanks. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  15:05, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pulsar Disaster
Hey that Pulsar Disaster, weren't you editing it? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  16:54, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think that was what Lappy was hinting to when he told me to add Metamorphosis, but do you want me to make a completely new deck? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  22:19, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Your Request
I've been a little busy, but this should be up later, before tomorrow. Synchro Maniac10 (talk • contribs) 13:44, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Here's what I've got.

So, this is basically your typical Macro Monarch. I tested both Bribe and Drain, and they both work fine for stopping MST and Heavy, both of which really hurts this deck. They each have an advantage over the other. I have just been using Bribe recently because I think I like it better in this deck. The extra is staples, and of course Leviair shines. Tour Guide is for searching Eiza out and can be brought back with Leviair. I know the deck has 42 cards, but I haven't really run into consistency issues, and it's been working really well. The main reason is that with 3 DF and 3 Cosmos, it's a bit harder to fit everything in. I hope this works for you! Synchro Maniac10 (talk • contribs) 00:31, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

GK's?
Hey, could you make one of those Deck Guides for Gravekeeper's?

138.88.112.251 (talk) 22:16, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

(I fixed this, since it was under the previous topic.) Synchro Maniac10 (talk • contribs) 00:08, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hey BobaFett2,

Thanks for the info for the dragunity deck. I really appreciate it. By the way, my friend and I came up with this brilliant deck theme. It's a combination between fabled and dark world cards. If you are interested in hearing about it, let me know.--68.101.171.69 (talk) 05:07, October 24, 2011 (UTC)4drummer9553

Re: Updates
I'll update stuff when I get the time. I agree about the rating system, it's very subjective and I feel like there's no way to do it properly. Like, Exodia is obviously a 10 on draw/search power, but compared to nearly every other deck, Sams are/were also a 10. I feel like the scale just doesn't work. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 23:25, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re: New GBs
People do seems pretty inactive. I believe Resk's internet is messed up, Ace is busy with school (as am I), SM10 usually only posts sporadically, and I'd say the 5 of us are the only real regulars to the wiki these days.

Tengu: potentially a good idea, but I feel like GBs have a pretty delicate balance that Tengu could upset. Horn: It seems like a good idea, but most of the time you'll want to tag, making the Horn a one time deal, in which case you might as well run some monster removal like Prisons or just run Lances. Samnite: This card has always been decent as tech. Overall conclusion: test it out, but I think you'll be disappointed. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 23:19, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Clowns
I often use a clown deck, so I thought I share some cards I like to use with it.

Level Limit - Area B: Due to how this card works you can use Crass Clowns ability every turn, you can flip it to attack while Area B is on the field and it will flip itself back to defense.

Giant Rat: With Stumbling on the field you can summon Dream Clown/Blade Rabbit to have there effects happen instantly.

Cards that can flip themselves (Swarm of Locusts, Stealth Bird, Medusa Worm, etc.): I often use these to fill in to get myself up to 20 monsters, there effects and such compliment the clowns well I believe.

Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6: This is the kill card for my deck. When it is summoned it will be able to attack right off the bat (Area B/Stumbling will not effect it). This along with Stealth Bird are my main damage dealers.--76.120.154.54 (talk) 12:20, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thoughts?
Forum: Crystal HERO for Decks for Free! -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  14:43, October 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Also, some thoughts on Forum: Dark World Update V. Ace would be nice too. -- - Dark Ace SP™  ( Talk )  17:01, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

WDC 23
Thoughts on this? Or did you want to skip this week? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  17:05, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Herald of Perfection
"Herald of Perfection"'s negation effect is optional. When your opponent activates a monster's effect you choose if you want to negate it or not. ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 06:42, October 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * It can negate mandatory effects as well. The player is considered to be activating these effects much like the optional effects. ATEMVEGETA  (Talk) 13:48, October 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! :) ATEMVEGETA  (Talk) 20:02, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

General Guide
Go ahead and make edits as you see fit, just leave me a message saying you've done so and what you changed. If I object, we'll talk it over and decide whether or not to revert it. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 19:03, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re:
1) I know right? That DAD out of nowhere + a 2400 Beatstick? (Play experience) Crazy!

2) Sure I guess, but that's only a few, so 2 contestants per each?

-- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  02:10, November 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * We could also do something with the Assault Mode cards, maybe? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  03:10, November 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * We wouldn't be voting on which ones the best, but which deck is best for that Assault Mode. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  22:02, November 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * So all set for WDC 23 to be Assault Mode? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  23:39, November 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * We'll do ZEXAL for WDC 24. I'll set it up. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  00:46, November 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Done, made the page. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  00:58, November 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * You still want to do Doomkaiser correct? -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  01:22, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re: BW Guide
Made a few changes, don't remember what, you can just check the history. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 19:55, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

The fabled unicore negates counter traps too.in the deck guide you say it doesn't.'m not being a smartass just told you so you can correct it.good job on the deck guides
 * Thanks for the complement and the tip. BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 12:45, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Pulsar
"Missing the Timing

Please check the section on If & When."

Lightpulsar Dragon is a "When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard"

Peten the Dark Clown is a "When this card is sent to your Graveyard,"

When Black Rose Dragon uses its effect to destroy all cards on the field "The last thing to happen was not " Peten the Dark Clown Lightpulsar Dragon" being sent to the Graveyard, so it misses the timing."

- Resk ( ✩ )( ☯ )

How do you even come up with this stuff?
No. Just no. Rock Stun is bad. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 21:50, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Stun decks need a way to maintain advantage while consuming a huge supply of one for ones. Rock Stun does not plus. Ever. Jujitsu, Grand Mole, and Fossil Dyna are the only ways to potentially plus, and that's rare. So the opponent just burns through your 4 Traps and kills your 2 monsters while still plussing, and then you lose. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 22:54, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Occaisionally, that happens, but most often you will either 1. Need to Tribute your monster to negate the Trap activated in response to your attack. or 2. Need to Tribute your monster to stop the Sangan/Dandy/Emmersblade/etc. All decks can plus by destroying in battle. Relying solely on 1900s to do so is just bad. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 01:56, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re: WDC
Yes, I'll add a note to it. But Gadjiltron may not be able to post on the 9th or 10th, so I made it early for him. -- - Dark Ace SP™ ( Talk )  16:16, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ceruli
So, I've been using the Ceruli build you gave me, mostly combining Ceruli + Goldd, but how does it work with Grapha? Isn't it just the same as discarding Grapha with Gates? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  17:31, November 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Also, do you happen to have a Fortune Lady Build around? I recall you making a post on that, if you don't have it, I can just go search the forum. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  17:47, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thoughts? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  19:41, November 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * If I drop Wind, I'll need another card to add, but I have no ideas. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  00:48, November 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * A Solemn should work. Thoughts on the above? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  01:35, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Karakuri
I'm aware, I spent a lot of time dealing with him the last time he was here. I thought maybe there was hope when he started posting decks that were 40 cards, but no, he's as stubborn as ever. And he still overuses the word elitist like it's a racial slur. -.- Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 03:36, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh dear, that topic, I still lol'd my ass off at that argument. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  03:41, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, and that looks good. I haven't had any time to work on the Deck Guides lately. =/ Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 23:01, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Verz
Their looks, and their effects (destruction) are similar. And I didn't change that post - That user did... -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  18:28, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

ZPW
So I finally got a chance to test the deck for myself, and it's even better than I imagined. It does everything that Plant Synchro does, only better. My only issue with the deck is that Merchant just doesn't seem to do it for me, I would probably try Maxx Cs instead. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 23:09, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Actually looking at your build I realize mine is quite a bit different (I built it from memory, my memory is not to be trusted...) Anyways, here's the build I settled on. Merchant isn't working for me because I would often rather use my Normal Summon/Set for something else.

I don't know WHY you aren't using Goblin Zombie, it's absolutely amazing in the deck. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 23:36, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Turtle toolboxes everything, usually Goblin Zombie for more toolboxing. I find that I'm making level 6 a lot, and Gaia Knight is a good level 6, and Revived King is really good sometimes. Sangan? No. Dandy? No. Spore/Glow-Up? Sucks to be you. Treeborn Frog? That bitch is never coming back. Besides, I had extra space. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 23:52, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

I do run the 1 Gorz, and Turtle isn't that necessary if you want to try Faders/Trags, I'm thinking of cutting Turtle to 2 myself. Trag might be better simply because the deck almost always has 4+ cards in hand. As for Suiton, I think it'd be good tech if you were running triple Salvage. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 19:52, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

DN chat? If not, you're going to have to explain it to me.. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 20:29, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

The link doesn't work. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 21:54, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Forum:Deck Guide/Blackwing/1

 * I don't think you can use Armor Master's effect in the Battle Phase. Its page lists it with an Ignition Effect.
 * "Dark End Dragon" does not destroy, and it only works once a turn. No big deal.
 * Down in the Dragon Abuse Deck, you suggest AtW, which can't be used.
 * Sorry I've been gone...

Designless Square (talk • contribs) 03:20, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Dragon HERO
So that request on DFF, any suggestions for dragons? I don't think a Hopeless build would be good, unless the only 4 HEROes in the deck were Stratos and Neos + 3 Miracle Fusion, but that mix would be odd. A Blizzard Dragon or anything WATER Dragony pops into mind first. Thoughts? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  03:37, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Thoughts? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  23:36, November 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ravine slipped my mind, but that could work better than the Future Fusion. Check forum, I'll make a post there. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  23:47, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Who the hell is Nerc?
Maybe that user thought that's your name, but I don't think so - I would still call you Bob. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:34, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Permission
So, you've kinda become the admin of the Deck Guides. So could I have your permission to edit the guide page? Its really cluttered and messy, plus it needs a little work here and there. I think I have a better idea on how to list the updated guides too. Do I have your permission?


 * Cool. Sorry I forgot to sign. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  20:54, November 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Huh. Well fine, I'll go fix the edits. Just that Lappy and Gadjiltron had theirs that way. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  20:59, November 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wait do I have to change them? That's a lot more work. But if you say I have to, then I will. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  21:01, November 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'll go change them. At least you caught me before I did everything. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  21:02, November 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I got rid of the poll because I thought the original writer had made that one. Plus not all of the guides had one, so.... -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  21:05, November 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about it. I'll go fix everything, or at least as much as I can. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  21:05, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

For the updated guides, because I plan to create Archive Template boxes (Like on DFF/WDC), I was thinking I could just add a link to the old guide on the updated one or vice versa? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  21:16, November 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Finished the remake. See any issues? And you should know how to edit the templates to add more guides, correct?-- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  21:50, November 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * I finished remaking the Deck Guides page. I'm asking you to go look at it, and tell me if you see any issues with what I've done. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  21:53, November 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright. Cool and thanks. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  22:05, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

To Mind Crush or not to Mind Crush
Mind Crush is a dark world staple IMHO for a simple reason because of the mass use of Pot of Duality in some decks it can be used in both instances or send a card to the graveyard your opponent just picked with Pot of Duality or abuse it to special summon a hell lot of darkworld monsters using the right loops. Tactics VS Strategy Depreved Warrior (talk • contribs) 17:19, November 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * plant syncron i don't see very often here, I see more darkworld decks then i would like to see. ;) This is because plant is harder to use and harder to collect then dark world who recently got that spiffy structure deck. I worked around Mind Crush by using Good Goblin Housekeeping instead of Pot of Duality.Depreved Warrior (talk • contribs) 20:07, November 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Meta Viability, plant syncro is a expensive deck so outside a regional match or dualing network i won't bet on seeing a complete plant syncro deck, plant variants i do see at local games.(before you start i play at locations accross the region i live)Depreved Warrior (talk • contribs) 20:33, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Deck Guides
I left comments on the bottom of Deck Guide Page. Check that,since I want to know what to for the General Guide. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  13:59, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Boba Fett 2,

I was wondering if you could help me with my agent/hyperion deck.

So far, I have 2 archlord kristya, 3 hyperion, 3 agent-venus, 3 mystical shine ball, 3 agent-jupiter, 3 agent-earth, 3 dimensional alchemist, 3 herald of orange light, 3 zeredias-herald, 3 sanct in sky, 1 mirror force, two or three dimensional prisons, 1 monster reborn, 1 heavy storm, 1 dark hole, 3 mystical space typhoon, 3 divine judgement, 3 cards from the sky, etc.

If you can think of anything, or just edit it, that would be great.

thanks.

--4drummer9553 (talk • contribs) 15:57, November 16, 2011 (UTC)4drummer9553

so i understand that i dont need sanctuary in the sky and zeredias, but what about master hyperion and earth? you cannot use hyperion's effect with kristyla on the field. Also, if I do make a kristyla deck, how do I make sure that only 4 fairies are in the graveyard. Could you possibly give me a format. Sorry for asking, but it seems like you are the right one to ask.--4drummer9553 (talk • contribs) 21:16, November 16, 2011 (UTC)4drummer9553

You can get out Hyperion before you Special Summon Kristya. BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 21:22, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

WDC 24
You wanna handle the Zexal Archetypes? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  23:07, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

So, you think I'm using the term "Elitist" inappropriately?
And yet here you are, proving just how appropriate it is by attempting to threaten to ban me from a part of the site that I doubt you have any authorization to do so, just because I used it to describe your insistence that I use a card that by definition is rather elitist. Seriously, how many tournament decks use D.D. Crow or Kycoo, now? Why in the hell should I use them when I have a card that can remove the monsters WITHOUT them ever touching the graveyard? And throwing around numbers in an effort to convince me? That's elitist bean-counting if I ever saw it. I'm sorry, but you ARE an elitist, and so are your suggestions, and I'd kindly ask for you to shut the hell up and stay out of my decks from now on. There was a reason why I got into a tiff with you, before, and I stupidly gave you the benefit of the doubt afterward. I see now I was right to kick you out of my decks. Go to hell and take your ideas with you, if you would be so kind to do so. SynjoDeonecros (talk • contribs) 16:57, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Apologize? For what? You brought this on yourselves, guys, as I've explained several times, yet you once again refuse to listen, I'm sorry. I'm not apologizing for anything. SynjoDeonecros (talk • contribs) 02:28, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re: That ^
I totally approve. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 19:52, November 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * I second that motion. Synchro Maniac10 (talk • contribs) 22:46, November 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll talk to wiki admins about it, seeing if we have the ability to do so. If they say yes, I'll go ahead and handle it. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  23:07, November 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Probably just a precaution on my part. I did post on D-Neos page, I'll go check it. Anyway, did you ask Resk, he does currently have the DFF Admin rights, so it should be his final call. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  01:48, November 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Go check talk page under "Possible Rights?".

The thing is as Neos said, banning him may end up causing more problems than solutions. And I don't want to try to do that...just yet. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  01:56, November 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've never really paid any attention to that, until now. In fact, I didn't really notice anything. Oh well, who cares? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  02:01, November 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * I edited the rules a bit, now we don't have to Ban him out right. Check Rule 8. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  02:06, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Rarity on Pack Pages
Most of the time, I don't see it added. But imo it's somewhat redundant and makes it cluttered so you can't easily see which are the rares. As for the NR and SP, I'm not sure, I never tracked either one. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:27, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Absolute Inferno Request
Do you think Diviner + Convulsion is worth it in that deck? I would also have to tech in 2 Diamond Dudes (For EHAZ/Consistency). -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  16:12, November 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * I just realized, I hate and love E-HERO decks at the same time (TOO MANY OPTIONS)...I just spent the last 3 minutes making a concept map for the deck. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  16:23, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Jester Confit worth it?
So I have this Macro Monarch deck, and i don't know if Jester Confit is worth using or not. Also if it is recommended, I don't know what to take out so i'm at a crossroads. Do you think it's worth it? --Sxh94 (talk • contribs) 00:04, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Decks For Free
Hey, how can I become a deck builder and join you? There are a lot of decks that I believe I can make really well. I also love to just build decks, but never have ideas on what to build. I have a lot of time to work on decks, so I think I could really help speed the process up on decks for free! 216.230.238.174 (talk) 12:52, November 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * First you need an account. Make one and I'll be happy to test you. BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 17:41, November 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, just make an account, and BF2, me, and another builder will test you. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  17:54, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay I make an account! now what? Speedy Demon (talk • contribs) 00:24, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Sample decklists
Hey, Bob! I think you may be busy, but could you add sample decklists to deck type pages and archetypes so that others can get an idea of its structure and ,for my case, for billy duelists? Please respond back as soon as u can! And thanks!

Guardmaster (talk • contribs) 20:06, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Weird Sabers
It's a very unusual Deck, by previous standards. I understand most of the choices though. Boggart is just asking for a Maxx C, and Rat is to replace it (helps keep/get a Monster on the field). The My Bodys seems odd to me, as well as the full 3 Creature Swap. I would run 2 at most, but with 9 Monsters that you can trade and plus with, it's understandable. E-Con is basically a Staple this format, and Sabers can support it very well between Fulhelm and Darksoul. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 20:09, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Absolute Inferno

 * Need a peer review, just leave comments here, I'll come back and check them. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  20:12, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

I have never liked Parallel World, especially when I can just Shining them back to hand. Why DNA Transplant? Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 01:01, November 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Poster wanted DNA Transplant, hmm should I just go ahead and drop both Parallel for another Miracle? Added a 3rd Shining, and for some reason had posted BRD twice... -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  14:17, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Probably not if you have Fusion Gate. BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 14:28, November 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I also want to keep Parallel World Fusion, I've made a quite a few of these types of decks for DFF, and that card has been useful. I also forgot Maxx "C", dang. Should I just drop the Diviner Play? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  14:31, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe. It will be simpler. BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 14:32, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

''Copied all pieces of conversation, can't you just reply here? That way I can patch it all together later?''

Anyway, yeah, I think simpler is better for this deck. I think I'm 2 cards short, a Solemn Judgment and 2 Rai-Oh or a Judgment and 2 Super Poly, or do you have another idea? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  14:39, November 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm, Solemn and 2 Maxx "C"? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  14:40, November 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah. BF2 Talk Deck Guides 14:44, November 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, to the Solemn and C or another of the suggestions? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  14:57, November 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Maxx "C" and Solemn are great. BF2 Talk  Deck Guides 14:47, November 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Cool, edited. Any more thoughts, before I begin testing? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  14:56, November 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wow, forgot the Masked, added. Do I need the 3 Nova Master, or should I drop 1 for a Number 39? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  04:56, November 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Check forums, made a post there. Forum:Absolute Inferno for DFF-- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  14:36, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Re:Sample Decklists
Wow! You are fast! Well, you could just put the "Core" of the Deck type like you used in your guides. That helped me out once. And try to put recommended cards in some without, like vision Heroes. Like always please respond back soon!

Guardmaster (talk • contribs) 20:13, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

DN
Could you come on for a little bit? Synchro Maniac10 (talk • contribs) 16:06, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Ninja - Test
I don't know which ninjas you meant, so i used the newest armored ninjas from Dueling Network, let me know if you meant the other ones

So how does that work for you? Just add any XYZ's you see fit Speedy Demon (talk • contribs) 22:30, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Synchro Fusionist?
Did you ever finish that Synchro Fusionist for a poster? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  17:27, November 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Want me to take your name off the header? -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  17:29, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Watch Out
User talk:Boris12, this guy completely removed the entire DFF page. Just go to Forum: Decks for Free! in case you don't see it in the forums, and undo his edit in history. I'll try to get to the bottom of this. -- - Dark Ace SP ( Talk )  18:04, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

any progress?
I'm sorry if I am being impatient, but I wanna know what's taking the updates so long. By the way can we chat when you're available? It's much easier to communicate that way. Please respond soon! (or now if ur online) Guardmaster (talk • contribs) 21:12, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

RE:
the deck cores and recommended cards Guardmaster (talk • contribs) 23:36, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

what's a go-ahead? let's go to the chat room instead. I'll be waiting. Guardmaster (talk • contribs) 23:40, November 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Did Deltaneos give you the approval that you can do it so you don't run into any trouble while doing it? 23:57,11/27/2011

T.G. Zombie Plant
I think you asked for a list of my ZPW a while ago, and I never posted one, so here's the T.G. version I've been using.

I want to drop a card in order to play 2 Enemy Controller with the Deck at 41, but I don't know what. Lappyzard (talk • contribs) 00:20, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Deck Guides
I know I'm reasonably new to this, and that if you look at my page, I haven't got the best decks in the world, but I was wondering if I could help with a few of the Deck Guides, like the half-finished Hopeless Dragon guide. Or Lightsworns, or something. I think you're the person in charge of them. --Blue-Eyes Starlight Dragon (talk • contribs) 00:30, November 28, 2011 (UTC)