User talk:Deus Ex Machina/Archive8


 * Also see Archives 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.

Destiny Hero - Daimond Dude and Delta Attacker
If Diamond Dudes effect reveals Delta Attacker and i send it to the grave via Diamond dudes Effect, on my next turn how will Delta Attacker effect my normal monsters. Delta Attacker's effect of having 3 Normal Monsters of the same name to activate it is a requirement and Diamond Dude's ruling states that he bypasses Costs and Requirements. So if i activate Delta Attackers effect through Diamond Dudes Effect what happens? thanks man in advance


 * Thanks man.

Multiple attacks for Lord British
If Lord British destroys a monster and activates its effect to attack once again, after it destroys its second monster, can it attack once more or even activate its effect at all?PoirotH 15:24, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you.PoirotH 03:39, October 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think so, since of this part of the effect; 'This card can attack again once in a row' mean one more attack in the battle, like Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning's effect. Though Nitro Warrior's effect tell different, and it's only activate if there's other DEF monster on the field... FredCat100 21:57, October 15, 2009 (ECT)

Ruling: Fusion Gate and Fusion Recovery
I was looking at the ruling for Fusion Gate and it says that you are allowed to use Fusion Recovery to retrieve a Fusion Material Monster used with Fusion Gate. If this is the correct ruling do you also need to have a Polymerization in the Graveyard also? The Ruling on Fusion Recovery says that Both Polymerization and a Fusion Material Monster used for a Fusion Summon have to be in the Graveyard for Fusion Recovery to be used. So I'm asking you, can I use Fusion Recovery to get a removed from play Monster that was used in a Fusion Summon without having a Polymerization in the Graveyard?

Ruling: Rituals and Special Summoning

 * Hey, I'm just wondering whether or not summoning a card such as Shinato, King of a Higher Plane is possible via a card such as Valhalla, Hall of the Fallen. Thanks! --Tantara (talk) 01:46, October 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * You cannot, since it's Ritual requirement. If you try to special summon the Ritual Monster that is also Fairy by Valhalla, Hall of the Fallen, you will just make mistake. So just go by Ritual requirement. FredCat100 22:09, October 15, 2009 (ECT)


 * Thanks for the quick response --Tantara (talk) 03:15, October 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Not a problem... Just try to be more helpful. FredCat100 22:34, October 15, 2009 (ECT)

Fusion Gate and Fusion Recovery
I was looking at the ruling for Fusion Gate and it says that you are allowed to use Fusion Recovery to retrieve a Fusion Material Monster used with Fusion Gate. If this is the correct ruling do you also need to have a Polymerization in the Graveyard also? The Ruling on Fusion Recovery says that Both Polymerization and a Fusion Material Monster used for a Fusion Summon have to be in the Graveyard for Fusion Recovery to be used. So I'm asking you, can I use Fusion Recovery to get a removed from play Monster that was used in a Fusion Summon without having a Polymerization in the Graveyard?

ok man thanks. so is that an incorrect ruling or something?


 * --Koryuseness 22:10, October 23, 2009 (UTC) Is an incorrect ruling. Fusion Gate removes the Fusion Material monsters used in the Fusion Summon instead of that monsters go to Graveyard. The lore and effect of Fusion Recovery clearly says that: "add 1 Fusion Material Monster that was used for a Fusion Summon, from your Graveyard (not removed) to your hand", not matter if you have or not Polymerization in Graveyard; the point is that you can´t do it because the monsters you try to recover are removed and not in Graveyard. Is not posible.

Hello
why I cant save or add a new forum topic?

Kaiser-kun 11:51, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Morphing Jar #2
Can i activate Morphing Jar effect if my opponent do not have monsters in his deck ?? If not, what sould i do? Look at his deck ? Massinha4 14:16, October 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * --Koryuseness 04:02, October 23, 2009 (UTC) If there is no Monster Card on both Fields, then the effect will vanish.

Prohibition
hey again. i have always been wondering about prohibition it says declare the name of 1 card. i believe the person who plays prohibition must say the full name of a card for prohibition to take effect. were im from people would say part of the cards name when the rulebook states that the cards name is everything you see at the top of the card. For example: a player activates prohibition declaring Malicious, there are 3 monsters in yugioh that i know of have Malicious in their name but their name isn't just Malicious. They should have to say the whole card name like Destiny Hero - Malicious or Evil Hero Malicious Edge. is it legal for people just to say part of a cards name like playing prohibition and saying Stratos instead of Elemental Hero Stratos. there is no monster in yugioh who is just named Stratos but theres a monster whos name is Elemental Hero Stratos. i believe they must declare the full name of any card to verify what card specifically will be prohibited. i been wondering about this ever since this guy played prohibition and declared Neos and told me i cant use Elemental Hero Neos even though there are 14 other monsters that are also named Neos. thanks in advance --The King Of Heros 17:09, October 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * THATS REALLY GAY!! IT REALLY IS. ITS B.S. it says "declare the name of 1 card" it doesnt say describe a card to your opponent nor does it say describe its effect. lol. if thats the case then yugioh is really starting to get gay with the rulings. how in the world is a card going to say declare a name but you are allowed to describe it by its effect to make sure the opponent understands. this is not right nor is it even fair.

Morphing Jar #2
Yeah, i was very nbe, if he returns a monster, then he will have one :S

i was doing a inferno tempest mill deck, and i must know how use morphing jar. sorry for the bad english and for the stupid question. bye :D

Massinha4 15:13, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Card Rulings:D.D. Warrior Lady
--Koryuseness 05:00, October 19, 2009 (UTC) In the topic of D.D. Warrior Lady´s Rulings, you wrote badly the word Special. You wrote instead: "Speical". You always undo my edit. By that I edit it again; nothing personal, I just do that for change the word and put the correctly word. By the way, nice job in your contributions.

Greetings. :)

hey
Thanks for clearing up the special summoning and all my questions since i been using this site. I ask alot of questions to accurately judge a game. I appreciate the time and patience spent when answering the questions. ty again DeVast 00:40, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Volcanic Counter/Imperial Iron Wall
hey, was just wondering, if I have Imperial Iron Wall active, and FIRE monster other than "Volcanic Counter" in my grave, and "Volcanic Counter" in my grave, and I take battle damage, does Counter's burn effect still activate, and deal equal battle damage to my opponent? or does it have to be rfp'd for the effect to take place? thanks --Silver4X 08:13, October 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * --Koryuseness 04:18, October 23, 2009 (UTC) Volcanic Counter its removed from play when its effect resolves.

Nurse Reficule The Fallen One
I don't see any rulings related to Bad Reaction To Simochi and Nurse Reficule The Fallen One. Can you clarify if Simochi and Reficule stack? Or No?

Thanx


 * --Koryuseness 04:31, October 23, 2009 (UTC) No. Will act and work like the same effect, so, your opponent dont will take the double of damage or something like that. Nurse Reficule the Fallen One use to work like an support when cards like Royal Decree are active.

2 questions
Do the combo "Fiend Roar Deity Crux" + "Fiend Roar Deity Solcius" Work ??

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 * No. Because Fiend Roar Deity Cruz needs to be discard to make its effect, and with the Fiend Roar Deity Solcius´s effect you send (not discard) the cards to Graveyard.

Do the Combo "Fiend Roar Deity Beast Cerberus" + "Manticore of Darkness" work ?? thx Massinha4 16:22, October 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * --Koryuseness 04:48, October 23, 2009 (UTC) Too not. The same here; Fiend Roar Deity Beast Cerberal will not be Special Summoned because only can returns if is discarded to Graveyard, and Manticore of Darkness returns by send the mosnter to Graveyard. So you´re sending it, not discarding. Discard to Graveyard and Send to Graveyard are not treated like the same thing.

Chaos Sorcerer?
Can you use Monster Reborn to bring Chaos Sorcerer back to your side of the field?


 * --Koryuseness 01:18, October 23, 2009 (UTC) You can´t use Monster Reborn to Special Summon Chaos Sorcerer to the Field in first place until that monster be Special Summoned hows its description says first.

ok thank you. i keep wondering cause my friend will keep saying. since its price has already been paid for to bring it out the first time. and its been destroyed. can you bring it back to the field by using monster reborn? that answers questions for me now. thanks!

so does that mean that the card can be special summoned from the graveyard if you just remove from play another light and dark monster? or is that against the rules?


 * --Koryuseness 03:04, October 23, 2009 (UTC) About whats your friends says: Some cards have descripted in their lores that "This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by..." like Gigantes or Chaos Sorcerer, this cards are named: "Semi-Nomi" monsters; so they cannot be Special Summoned by other way in first place, but when they were already Special Summoned and by example are destroyed, removed...etc, then you can use other card´s effects to Special Summon them again. In case this cards go from Field to hand, then they will have to be again Special Summoned hows its effect says befores another card´s effect Special Summon them again. About the second: No. You can´t do that. It just applies to Special Summon it from your hand to the Field; would be different if were written on the card´s lore that it can be Special Summoned from your Graveyard too, but not this case.

adding onto special summoning
Im getting tired of asking this so i will ask one last time for a final clarification. A monster that says can only be special summon or can not be special summon except by said condition, can not be special summon regardless of call of the haunted, monster reborn, and other cards the special summons monsters from the grave. correct? This will end most of the debates that i have with my friends and probably even save a few (sad i know). Thanks again :) DeVast 01:55, October 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * --Koryuseness 03:27, October 23, 2009 (UTC) In the case of this monsters like Gigantes or Chaos Sorcerer, they can be Special Summoned again by another card´s effect once they were Special Summoned like its card´s lore says in first place. They´re named Semi-Nomi monsters.

original attack query
what is the original of ATK of a monster with ? attack Sammykill98 03:21, October 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * --Koryuseness 03:25, October 23, 2009 (UTC) The original ATK of a monster with "?" or "X" is treated like "0" (zero).

questions about spell transfer & Endless Loan
about spell transfer

did my opponent can actualy use this card on all my spell cards? no meter what it is? let say, if i activated "sneach steal", as a response he activates "spell transfer". but, there are no face up monsters on my side of the field. does it means that he can not activate "ST" at this circumstances? it means that he can use "ST" only if he can apply the legal effect of my spell card?


 * --Koryuseness 15:43, October 23, 2009 (UTC) The card that Umbra uses in anime, right? This card really don´t exist. The same for Curse Transfer. Since by Spell Transfer the effect of the Spell Card is applied as if he were the card´s controller and this "controller" cannot apply the effect of the card correctly (because you have no monsters in your side), then he cannot respond activing the card in first place.

[Endless Loan]

my opponent activates it against me. he succeed to summon a fue tokens to my side. but what going on if "Endless Loan" is destroyed? he can still continue to make me descard from my hand by destroing 1 token? even after the card was destroyed?


 * --Koryuseness 15:43, October 23, 2009 (UTC) No. Then you will have the Token, but the effect of Endless Loan with it is no more active. You don´t will send cards to Graveyard.

ancient city Qs
for rainbow ruins third effect can you send a crystal beast in the monster card zone to graveyard Sammykill98 00:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)


 * Koryuseness 23:43, October 24, 2009 (UTC) Yes, you can. "You can send 1 "Crystal Beast" monster you control to the Graveyard to negate the activation of a Spell or Trap Card and destroy it."

For Colossal Fighter/Assault Mode

 * Thanks for respond to my talk article, I am appreciative for that. FredCat100 12:40, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Was waiting for you since no one else seems to be able to give me a clear answer for some of the questions I had. Thanks again.

--Xsamuraizx 03:45, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Need help
Could you please help figure out a definite answer here? --Bluedog (Talk) 03:18, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Forum:Ratios: need help
Now you've done it. You've confused me xD. I understood your use of the binomial coefficient (choice of k elements from a set on n elements, bin(n,k)). But I..well, don't understand your "double-counting" statement. Could you explain?
 * P.S. Wow mate not only do you know everything there is to know on rulings, you are good at math too O_o.
 * P.P.S. You've also read my User Page (or have a keen eye for words written inversely). T-up! --Darth Covah (Talk | Contribs) 01:28, November 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * Right! It just dawned on me, the moment I read your reply. Could you reach the same conclusion without resorting to the binomial coefficient though? And the ScR pulling chance is still 12,5%, so at least I got that one ok :-S.
 * P.S. Good luck mate. I'm a 3rd year Biology student, specializing in Molecular Biology. But I also study Population Genetics, so I also know a thing or two about statistics. But apparently I need more practice xD.
 * P.P.S. Darth Covah -(reverse "Covah")-> Darth Havoc. Only way you'd see that is in my User Page or if you have a really keen eye for such stuff. --Darth Covah (Talk | Contribs) 02:30, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Need help
can you explain about GB and skill drain????

so if I special summon a bestiari the bestiari destroy a spell card is negated?? is that right???

Prohibition and GB
How about prohibition and bestiari ??? can I special summon it???

miss timing and GB
can stardust or tytanial miss the timing with the deck GB?? because sometimes GB deck special summon 2 GB


 * Correct, both can miss the timing. The effects of both "Stardust Dragon" and "Tytannial, Princess of Camellias" must be on the Chain Link immediately after the effect they want to negated.  For example,
 * Chain Link 1: "Dark Armed Dragon"
 * Chain Link 2: "Book of Eclipse"
 * In this case, the effects of "Stardust Dragon" and "Tytannial, Princess of Camellias" cannot be activated. If you wanted to activate them to activate "Dark Armed Dragon", then you must activate them as Chain Link 2.


 * Similarly, let's say that "Gladiator Beast Gyzarus" Special Summons "Gladiator Beast Murmillo" and "Gladiator Beast Retiari" simultaneously. Both effects activate and form a Chain according to SEGOC, so the Chain is the following:
 * Chain Link 1: "Gladiator Beast Murmillo" (since "Gladiator Beast Murmillo" has a mandatory effect.)
 * Chain Link 2: "Gladiator Beast Retiari" (since "Gladiator Beast Retiari" has an optional effect.)
 * At this time, the effects of "Stardust Dragon" and "Tytannial, Princess of Camellias" cannot be activated to negate the effect of "Gladiator Beast Murmillo". If you wanted to activate the effect of "Stardust Dragon" or "Tytannial, Princess of Camellias", then you would have to activate it as Chain Link 2 - but you can't, since there is already an effect as Chain Link 2.
 * Also, remember to sign your posts with four tildes ~, since that automatically creates a signature for you.
 * --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 04:07, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

but if let's say I have an equeste n darius after that I return both of them and change with murmillo and retiari... Are the stardust and tytannial miss the timing?? Daredevil^^ 11:22, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

gold sarcophagus
a tricky ruling that you may want to put up for gold sarcophagus is: if the card that is removed by the effect of the gold sarcophagus is later removed from the removed from game section ie. the player selects neroface with gold sarcophagus's effect and later special summons the monster to the field via return from the different dimension even though at the end phase necroface will be removed again, the effect of gold sarcophagus is dissolved and the card will no longer be added to the hand after the 2nd standby phase.

Winged Kuriboh LV10's damage effect
I saw the Nightmare Archfiends OTK and was wondering if it's true that Winged Kuriboh Lv10's effect would inflict damage equal to the ATK of a token?PoirotH 11:58, November 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks; I questioned myself about this for some time, especially after reading Winged Kuriboh LV10's ruling about King of the Skull Servants and Fusilier Dragon, the Dual-Mode Beast, and tried comparing that with a token's stats.PoirotH 19:15, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

TCG/OCG
hi..im gregg, tnx 4 ur answr.. uhm so my japns cards will becom useless? how bout tcg.. are they legal in ocg? thnksGregg jeans 16:37, November 11, 2009 (UTC)gregg

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FROM R.HUDSON

Forum:Removal of the CategorySelect tool
Hi Deus Ex Machina. You're probably aware of the CategorySelect tool? Could you leave comments on whether you'd like to see it removed or not here. Thank you. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:06, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

You ass, you dont know the rules of yugioh
Half of this wikia is based on wrong Rulings If a monsters effect sets the ATK/DEF that was ? to a amount the effect has passed so the new ATK/DEF is on as long the monster stays on the field. Even if a monster is flipped face down by Book of Moon the ATK/DEF can't be negated because it isn't a effect anymore like the effect of Bower Bond,...

hello
i know you have a lot to do but can you write back?

thanks

hi
hi mr deus ex machina ive seen you around and could you have a convo with me?GBmaster 18:42, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

ok im fine because i dont use ICR either anyway im just wanting to add friends to my friend list in my user page, so what deck do you use?GBmaster 21:57, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

cool, in that case i have a question you know inbonable gladiator beast the quick play spell well,on yugioh 2009 (ds game) the effect of this allowed me to send GB cards to the deck from the grave not just monsters, and it says just monsters on the card and the card text in the game,so is it a glitch or are they reprinting the spell.GBmaster 22:31, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

THANK YOU!!!!!!
yes i would like some help .....

i don't understand yu-gi-oh! one of my friends says "it should be called yu-gay-oh!", is this true that yu-gi-oh! is gay?

and don't get those rules for yu-gi-oh! and what are the rules?

THANKS

R.HUDSON

My thoughts and tips upon Final Destiny Spell Card
Dear Sir and Madam:

After I've given a clear and careful thought, I've finally come to a conclusion about Final Destiny Spell Card. The prerequisite to use it effectively is to use Infinite Cards Spell Cards on the Field, and use other quick deck drawing cards in order to gain hand advantages over your foes. If there's any more tips to this kind of strategy, please let me know asap, okay?

Thanks, bye! The Professional 20:32, November 14, 2009 (UTC)