User talk:Deltaneos/Archive 57

Potential image policy change
Hello, there is currently a discussion about changing our image policy at Forum:Potential image policy change. Because such changes are accompanied by a huge amount of work (renaming thousands of files, and updating thousands of pages), we want to make as few of them as possible. Therefore, your input is requested on the proposed change, as well as any comments on other possible changes you have in mind. If you have any questions about the image policy, now is also a good time to ask. Thanks! Delivered by FZ - Bot. You are receiving this bot-delivered message because you are a mover, an active administrator, or recently moved/uploaded a large number of files affected by this discussion. To opt out of potential future bot-delivered messages, please let Falzar FZ know. 07:15, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Since you seem to be the only one online currently and have received the above message.
 * Did you get the orange "you have a new message bar" before I posted now (via account, not bot)?
 * I didn't get it when I tested it on my own talk page, but maybe the bar works by IPs not accounts, so I'm just checking. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:47, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * No. Bot edits don't trigger that notice. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:50, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Interesting, I thought it worked on those welcome bots so I assumed it works like this too.
 * Guess I'll have to manually edit those messages some time later. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:56, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Like Delta said, Your bot is treated as you, since after all, it's your own power. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:06, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think I worked it out. I used the default settings, which apparently had it marked as a minor edit. Minor bot edits don't trigger it. If it is true, it'll work this time. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:11, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, what I meant was if you tried to get your bot respond to you in your own talk page, it won't trigger the message notice at all. It's like Bot is you. I have got the message from your Bot and it worked, which is a virtue. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:29, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * In case you're still wondering, Falzar, I can confirm from personal experience that no IP checking or anything of the sort is used to decide whether the orange "new messages" bar is triggered. Anon edits always trigger it, but minor edits from registered accounts do not (I don't think the account having a bot flag has anything to do with it, though I could be wrong). 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:57, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Ushio's name in the 5D's manga
Oh, sorry, I just have volume 1 of the English version. :P I'm planning to buy volumes 2 and 3 as well, but, till I find 'em, I know someone who probably can tell you about this. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 21:26, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have the second volume... only because of free card. So do you need Ushio's name official in English version? -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:45, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, please. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:37, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * To be honestly, his name was never mentioned - only being exist as entrance player and not seen in the duel, until Volume 3. Sorry. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:51, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well then, if you still need it, I can ask Spec (the guy who I talked about earlier) at Neo Ark Cradle. He has an account there as well. If you don't mind waiting a bit, I'll PM him asking. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 23:40, October 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * "Patience is a virtue" ordered by Brune Wayne -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  00:17, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

I have a new account now. And his name is the same in the English anime, Tetsu Trudge. Spectertvx (talk • contribs) 02:36, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Monobook
I have noticed that you had found the remedy for column glitch in Monobook. Can I use this code on my wiki too (I can credit it to you)? Final Cannon  Dyskusja  08:34, October 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Feel free to use it. You don't need to credit me though. It just pretty much put it back the way it was beforehand. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:22, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

WHat your users have been up to
My name is Mightykiko, I am a user from beyblade wiki and one of your "editors" from here,, entered the chat and started harrassing other users. For example, he pmed me a porn site I didn't even want, he called one of the female users a wh***, and even started picking fights with other members. What has your wiki come to :'(

--Mightykiko (talk • contribs) 07:24, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Please don't call them "our" editor; that editor has never even edited here. If they're giving you trouble on your wiki's chat, I recommend banning them from it. 「 ディノ 奴 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:25, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I have not interacted much with that user, but he has been banned from chat here and on other wikis multiple times and under different accounts. I don't know which wiki he started with, but I'm sure users here did not train him to behave that way. Like Dinoguy said, if he's unreasonably misbehaving, your moderators can ban him. -- Deltaneos (talk) 10:32, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Agreed with both Admins, either that user's trolling you or he just don't know the whole rulings. Those troll(s) are anywhere and didn't birth in same place at same times. Do Team Magna and Team Aqua do that way in Pokemon? I don't think so. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  11:56, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * That is exactly why I banned him first time around; harassment. I'll keep an eye out for him. -- Bobbles Talk 12:28, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

thx. Mightykiko (talk • contribs) 20:36, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just be sure to banning his IP code, so he couldn't be able to create new account while used same IP code. (If that's possible) -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:09, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Atem's Mother
Though this is not true - it's usually proved that the mother(s) always hold their child after they gave a birth to child(ren). And Atem's father is just right there in front of her (in manga page). I could guess what's in your mind was that she is not really his mother - more of nurse or babysitter, modern words. If not, then what's in your mind? Also, I supported neither your or the one who created that article; only to confirmed the reason why it was there, apparently. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:07, October 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, you are right. I was thinking it is possible she is his mother, but it is also possible she is someone like a nurse or babysitter. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:28, October 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * But both can't be proved, as it's just concluding indirect points. But I can't argue if you chose to delete it or change it into different character (rather than being a mother). -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  20:44, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Booster box images
Hey Delta, are booster box images such as this of any use? --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 03:16, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes.
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:19, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

VSTF

 * Hey, Delt. I've been editing the Borderlands wiki a bit recently, and I've come across some stuff I find troubling. I don't know what can be done about it but:
 * They have one admin who has such a vendetta against IP vandalism that he blocked an IP address for a full year in response to a single vandalism edit. His block log is here.
 * The only active bureaucrat I can find types everything in lower-case and locked every article relating to the first game in the series with the summary "Borderlands 1 Lockdown", since he thinks everyone should be focusing on the new game rather than refining that craptacular coverage of the first game. I think IPs should have the option to improve anything they want, not just new stuff. It make no goddamn sense to me.
 * I don't know if VSTF can do anything, but if not, maybe you can pass it along to the right people. To me, these seem to be clear violations. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:02, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I'm not much help. We can't use VSTF stuff to go against the local administration. You can try talking to the administrators or asking Wikia staff to talk to them. I don't have any quicker way of passing the message on to staff, unless it is a spam/vandalism problem. There's no global policies on block lengths or when it's appropriate to protect pages. So they'll most likely talk to the admins, recommend that they do things differently and explain why it's beneficial, but I doubt they will force them to change. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:30, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, I'll contact staff. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:29, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Genesis Crisis' Trivia
I just found the article being deleted three times, one of them was you... So I am curious of why you decided to dismissing that article? Is that just because that was obviously point? If so, it sound like it was an insult in the same way as if it was treated by being destroyed by the effect of "Mystical Space Typhoon" in Tip Article - It's such to be there for a show, which is of course obviously... We all knew that "MST" is very obviously part but the appearance is just different from that. I just like to listen to your opinion before do it immediately. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  17:51, October 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * I really should have made more use of the summary box when deleting trivia back then. When I deleted the page it said that the name might come from "Vampire Genisis" and Dark Crisis. That was 4¾ years ago and I don't remember making that exact deletion.
 * I would say you are right and I disagreed with the "Genesis" part because it was obvious "Genesis" was from "Vampire Genesis" since he's the card needed for and mentioned in its effect. Like how if you know the United States Bill of Rights is for the United States of America, you don't need someone to tell you that the name "United States Bill of Rights" comes from the country, the United States.
 * The part about it being named after Dark Crisis, I'm sure was wrong. "Crisis" isn't an uncommon word. It's not unlikely for two things to use it in their names. Also "Crisis" is part of the card's original Japanese name and there is no Japanese set called Dark Crisis.
 * The two other people who deleted it, deleted it when it said that "Vampire Genesis" appeared in the artwork. I would say that they assumed that was too obvious to need to mention it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:42, October 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh yes, Cheesy and Falzar also mentioned that - "Obviously Stuffs are Obviously" craps. Gotta remember that part. Thank you for point/update that out. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:43, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * I never apply "this should be obvious" to cards appearing in the artwork of other cards though. That's one piece of trivia I always retain even it is brutally obvious. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:47, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, I must have rang you in here. But yea, if it's only trivia listed there - it should be removing until it get some more various trivia to add in. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:53, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Many trivia pages are this simple, it doesn't need to be removed. Fred, how did you know it had been deleted 3 times anyway? I saw that when I recreated the page, but it doesn't show past deletions anymore, does it? --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 16:57, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Fred said that before you recreated the page. But a page's deletion log can be viewed regardless of whether the page currently exists or not. It's just easier to spot it when the page doesn't exist. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:40, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Delta's right - I viewed it and was showing being deleted 3 times, Delta was the first one to delete it 4 and ¾ years ago. And it only happening in Monobook skin, which I happened to using right now (thanks to TwoTailedFox). -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:35, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Template:Switch
Hey delta, i was thinking if we can have a template in the wikia similar to this: http://reborn.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Switch. It would be ideal since some (if not most) characters have some "forms" or different identity. Like Yuma in normal and ZEXAL form, Gilag in masked and unmasked form, Shark Drake in Normal and Chaos Form, maybe Kite in Photon and Normal form. Yknow. SharkTenjo 10:07, October 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Possible, yes. Desirable, I'm not sure. It works on the Reborn and One Piece wikis because they have two concrete divisions; anime and manga for Reborn, pre and post timeskip for One Piece. Here it would be different for each character and some may even have more than two. In that case, I get the feeling people would start using it to introduce all kinds of arbitrary divisions. 'A bit like what one user was doing with the "partner" part of character infoboxes until we just removed that parameter.
 * So yeah, it's possible to set it up, but you might want to talk it over with other editors of character pages to see if they want it. You don't have to feel too put off the idea by my uncertainty. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:53, October 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmmm was thinking if you could tell people about it. Also what i mean on using this template is similar to the Naruto wikia like Tobi/Obito in which they have different identities or forms SharkTenjo 11:34, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Like Bruno. But the current page seems to be working fine without it.
 * -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:43, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Is this talking about the article having a multiple information in same place, just like Paradox's D-Wheeler in his own profile? -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:03, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yea but i think its kinda more information-wise if we do it like that SharkTenjo 08:35, October 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I would support that idea - as it also show their different looks and different information (one from Season 1, from Season 2, and go on.) while keep the biography same. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  12:07, October 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Especially Judai since his maturity is something that cannot be unseen SharkTenjo 12:23, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Episode 192 Cast
Can you check if is accurate? WinterNightmare (talk • contribs) 06:32, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * The Japanese voice actors all seem to be correct. I don't know of any reliable sources for English voice actors. I think the middle names "Kenneth" and "Sebastian" are fake. I've never heard of them and the IP who added the English cast has been repeatedly blocked for inserting false information. Even if they are genuine, I wouldn't mention them in the cast list and would say "Joey" rather than "Joseph 'Joey'".
 * The more official cast list can be found in the ending credits. I haven't checked it, but it might include some more minor characters. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:11, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, I found a English voice actors source, but I don't know it reliable. I found a season 4 credit list, but not season 5. WinterNightmare (talk • contribs) 00:49, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * That site's FAQ says that they get their information from "official voice actor websites, resumes, DVD credits and other legitimate sources", so I think we should be safe enough trusting them. -- Deltaneos (talk) 10:37, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion: Extension of cards by effect properties/no duplicate results for searches
The category's of cards by effect is EXTREMELY useful, but it only covers the base/end result of the effect, not the requirements, or how the effect is applied.

For example, "Overwhelm!", "Proof of Powerlessness", and "Grave of the Super Ancient Organism" all require face up monster of a high level to activate, but as the actual resulting effect is different for each, they don't share any effect catagories. Adding some for stuff like that, or how the effect is applied (Target, all on your side of the field, all on theirs, or everything?), is another example.

A less important but still useful group of catagoeries would be a group of tags or catagoeries describing the artwork of the card. If you are building a thunder deck, it would be useful to be able to have a list of cards that feature electricity on the artwork, as beyond spell and traps, many non thunder monsters do.

Also, can there be a checkbox that makes it so during a search, you don't get the same card 9 times because each page for it (main, trivia, artwork, rulings, etc) matches the search? 98.24.14.97 (talk) 17:42, October 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Dinoguy1000 was thinking about improving that section, but was unsure what people wanted. So you think there should be properties added to group cards by their costs, activation requirements and non-gameplay themes? It's all doable. I'm not sure if the last one will kick off, but I think it would be an improvement over the Billy Deck article.
 * There actually are checkbox es to do that, but it's quite tedious. After you search, click "Advanced" in the left column, then untick everything except "(Main)" and click search again. I'd love to set it to only search "(Main)" by default, but that might be against Wikia's terms of use. If you create an account, you're able to set it so that when you search a card name, you'll be taken directly to the card's page (assuming you spell it right), rather than have to look through the search results. Unfortunately having that as the default setting for everyone is definitely against the terms of use. -- Deltaneos (talk) 10:59, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I wasn't even aware that billy deck page existed. I was thinking something more along the tags on -booru sites, but yeah, something like that, though it's missing a few things in existing sections and could use some more. 66.176.140.137 (talk) 20:10, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh! Duelist
So I came across Volumes 4-9 of ''Yu-Gi-Oh! Duelist'' at a used bookstore recently. I just finished reading them. A few questions. There are a multitude of cards that have written names identical to the TCG, but then the characters call them something or add a title to them (examples would be randomly referring to "Summoned Skull" as "Summoned Demon" and Pegasus appending "Relinquished" with, "the Lord of Sacrifices"). Should we list those names using the "altname" parameter, just mention it on the card trivia pages, or something else?

In a similar vein, cards seem to sometimes use their written TCG lore when they couldn't. "Electro-Whip" actually had this, but Mai equipped it to "Harpie Lady" anyway. I have to assume the Japanese manga had the card with different effect. On the same note, we know that "Metalmorph" was "Magic Metal Force", but Keith still called it "Metalmorph".

I'm going to try to get some chapter articles up for the chapters I have access to that we don't have. For cards like "Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon", "Clown Zombie", what procedure are we using? The manga really seems to imply they don't exist as cards, so we list them in "other monsters" in Decklist, right? Ritual Monsters seem to not actually be cards either. "Kuriboh" and "Feral Imp" together were used for "Black Luster Ritual", with "Gaia" seeming to be the one to actually perform the ritual and become "Black Luster Soldier". Similarly, "Jigen Bakudan" and "Winged Dragon" were sacrifices, with "Dark Magician" turning into "Magician of Black Chaos". On the other hand, "Relinquished" was different. "Dark-Eyes Illusionist" and random unnamed thingy were sacrificed, but there was no "performer" for the ritual. "Relinquished" just appeared. Regardless, none of them seemed to be cards.

"Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon" also seemed to not be a card, though I'm not sure if that was due to the Duel Disk Expert Rules or not. I can't check either, the volumes I have had no other Fusion Summons. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:18, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Something the characters call them that isn't actually printed on the card. I think it's a mixture of Viz wanting to use the TCG names for cards, while also trying to use something close to the Japanese names. I put a few of those from the English manga and Singaporean dub in the Card Names pages, e.g. Card Names:Nuvia the Wicked and Card Names:The Snake Hair, but sorta stopped because I'm not too fond of that namespace.
 * Their lore for "Electro-Whip" surprising might be more accurate than one would think. There are some abandoned and rarely referenced early rules. Monsters were split into Monsters and Magic-Users. Monsters had particular elements, which had strengths and weaknesses against each other; Earth > Thunder (sometimes called Lightning) > Water > Fire > Wood > Wind > Earth. Magic-Users were also sub-divided; Black Magic > White Magic > Demon Magic > Illusion Magic > Black Magic. Wind isn't mentioned in the manga and only some of the strengths and weakness are explained. The rest come from video games. In Duelist chapter 4, they explain that each terrain strengthens a particular element; Ocean: Water, Grassland: Fire, Mountains: Lightning, Wasteland: Earth, Forest: Wood. You can see the Duel Monsters article for more information. Since "Harpy Lady" was strengthened by the Mountains, we could assume that her element is Lightning aka Thunder. I can upload a Japanese manga image of "Electro-Whip" and see if I can transcribe it into Google translate.
 * To refer to your original point, they do often use TCG lores rather than manga ones. In which case, I just ignore them and use a translation of the Japanese manga lore.
 * Keith actually used "Metalmorph" (Metallizing Magic Reflection Armor) in the Japanese manga. I think the Japanese anime replaces a lot of the cards, whose effects were changed in the OCG, with similar stuff to avoid confusion (irony?), while the dub usually uses the names from the manga and OCG/TCG. I think you know all the examples; "Mystical Moon" → "Full Moon", "Nightmare Wheel" → "Scratch Wheel" etc. and arguably "Electro-Whip" → "Rose Whip".
 * When using Decklist for manga Decks, I've avoided splitting monsters into Normal and Effect at least before Battle City, because it's too unclear at times as to whether something is an effect or a weird rule. For Fusion Monsters, Ritual Monsters and stuff like "Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon", I've sometimes just added "(not an actual card)" after the name. I proposed adding a parameter for them; Template talk:Decklist, but couldn't think of a decent name.
 * You mean "Griffor", rather than "Feral Imp"? That Ritual thing was inconsistent alright. Although the Japanese lore for "Black Illusion Ritual" is different than the English one. I think it says something along the lines of "a monster with (more than/less than/exactly) 100 ATK" for the sacrifice in contrast to the English manga, which says "two monsters". This could mean that "Dark Eyes Illusionist" was the monster the Ritual was performed on, while the other was the sacrifice, making it consistent with Dark Yugi's two Ritual Summons. To speculate for a minute, if you look at the artwork for "Black Luster Soldier" and "Black Magic Ritual" there's a centre stage for the the monster the ritual is performed on and two containers for the sacrifices. In "Black Illusion Ritual", there's two containers for sacrifices and rather than centre stage for the monster the ritual is performed on, the content of the two containers is being sucked into another container... I'll just upload the Japanese image.
 * Mmm, I don't think any of the Fusion Monsters in the manga prior to GX were actual cards. As strange as the Expert Rules were, I don't think think they would ditch the existence of Fusion Monster Cards in favour of keeping all the Fusion Material on the field. Also the Solid Vision hologram for "Black Skull Dragon" appeared above two cards, presumably "Summoned Skull" and "Red-Eyes Black Dragon", rather than one. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:49, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Right, that's what it seemed like to me. They tried to use both names and it just ended up coming off as poorly translated.
 * Heh, so it was "Metalmorph". The anime really made that more confusing then. I'm glad you told that.
 * That's fair, just using "monsters" seems fine. Would "transformed" monsters work? I think that would encompass most of the cases - rituals, "Metalmorph", Zombies, Toons, etc.
 * Yeah, I meant "Griffor". That lore would make much more sense, but it doesn't help that the ritual itself doesn't seem to be shown unlike the other two. "Relinquished" just kind of appears. That's pretty consistent with your card art speculation too.
 * That Duel was very odd. BEUD counted as four cards, "Polymerization" was kept face-up on his Disk with the BEWDs. He had "Negate Attack" and couldn't draw anything else.
 * I have some time now, so I'll start getting some of the articles up as stubs. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 13:04, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've uploaded the Japanese images for "Electro-Whip" and "Black Illusion Ritual". I should really give the poor guy a break, but I've asked III if he can add their lores.
 * "Transformed" sounds alright, but I wonder about "Harpy Lady Sisters", which was two cards out of nowhere rather than a transformation and "Mystical Beast Selket", which I think came out of nowhere. A few turns after Summoning it, Rishid still had "Cup of Sealed Soul" and "Seal of Selket" in play, but no sign of a Monster Card. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:49, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * If you want to give him a break, you could ask Ryusui to add them. Or LegendaryAsariUgetsu.
 * Hmmm. Yeah, I can't think of a term that would encompass those two as well. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 13:54, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * For appearances in Card articles, do we need to have both the Japanese and English? "Spell Shattering Arrow" currently lists the Japanese chapter number. Should that be changed to the English numbers using "manga_d" or should that be added in addition to it and Yu-Gi-Oh! - Duel 104 be redirected to Yu-Gi-Oh! Duelist - Duel 045? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 14:21, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've managed to tackle the lore for "Electro-Whip" and it means something like "Specified monster's offense power goes up by 300.". So yeah, nothing to do with Thunder monsters.
 * I'd say just use the Duelist number. Same with Millennium World. If necessary, we can get the templates to add 59 and 258 to add the original number in brackets afterwards.
 * I see no problem with adding those redirects. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:24, October 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * That makes sense.
 * Will do, Duelist number it is. I may add those redirects if I get exceedingly bored someday, but I can't say its going to be high on my list of priorities. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:26, October 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey, Delt, I created a manga section at Maximillion Pegasus' Decks and changed the one at Joey Wheeler's Decks a bit. Can you check to see if I've messed anything up or missed anything. I don't have Pegasus' first Duel against Yugi for the manga, so I'm not sure if there were any other additions there. Also, what was "Wattkid" called in the manga (I have to assume it wasn't called "Wattkid", but I don't know for sure it was "Oscillo Hero #2". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:37, October 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * You got all of them and yeah, it's "Oscillo Hero #2". "Eye of Illusion" also had a different name, "Eye of Deception". I don't think the Toons were actual cards, but if we're including them in the Decklist, "Dark Rabbit", "Dragon Capture Jar" and "Bickuribox" were also cartoonised by "Toon World" in his Duel against Kaiba. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:36, October 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I realize they weren't actually cards, but I was unsure whether to list them under "toon monsters" or "other monsters". Even if they weren't cards, they still count as appearances of that card though. Confusing. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:41, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

No outside Card Game Reference
I just got my head smacking by other user in my talk page, is that alright to put in "Pokémon", "Digimon" or "Naruto" in this site as for reference to other card's look and stuffs? He said it was such to be there while I disagreed due to you, Falzar and Cheesy beaten my head in the past about them. -- i  F  r  e  d  C  a  t  14:29, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Infobox (2)
Hi Delta. The infobox on my userpage has gone all funny. It used to start at the top of the page and span down the side of the "About" section, but now it stays above it, and it looks unsightly with all the empty white space. Do you know why this suddenly happened, and how to change it back?--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 14:33, October 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikia changed the behaviour of level two headings to stop things floating next to them. I've overwritten it with the old way now. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:55, October 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, cool, thanks.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 15:08, October 31, 2012 (UTC)