Forum:Obelisk the Tormentor How Can You Beat Him

I was reading this cards effect and wondering for the life of me how the heck can you beat him. I mean if he is tribute summon and you dont have something on your side of the field bigger then him already it seems impossible to beat him. He shuts down all traps spells and effect monsters so the only way would be by straight battle and with his attack I can't think of any monster that could simply be normal summoned to beat him.

Is he simply a "I win" card being even worse then a JD or DAD hitting the field?

Steelfallenangel 06:04, September 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * Honest --Bluedog (Talk) 06:06, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Dont think so
I dont even think Honest could stop him. His text says Effect monsters effect cannot be activated. Its not like trying to negate honest you simply wouldn't be able to legally play it to begin with so Honest is out of the questionSteelfallenangel 06:08, September 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think that part of Obelisk's effect only applies to cards that would be activated when a monster is Normal Summoned, like Torrential Tribute and Trap Hole. --Bluedog (Talk) 06:12, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Guess will have to see when it comes out
Since the cards text itself doesnt seem to indicate when way or another. If thats true then there are more ways of taking him out. If not... god help us allSteelfallenangel 06:13, September 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well Card Rulings:Tactical Espionage Expert kinda clears this kind of effect up a bit. Besides, Lightning Vortex could also work. --Bluedog (Talk) 06:15, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Apart from Honest and Lightning Vortex, things like, Fissure, Saber Slash, Creature Swap, Flip Flop Frog, Black Rose Dragon. Also, when he activates his effect, Divine Wrath, Gladiator Beast War Chariot. Falzar FZ 06:33, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

There are only 2 things that can beat it.

 * 1) 1 is itself, it cannot be used on a duel.

and #2 is solemn Judgment.--70.95.50.192 09:48, September 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * ^ I think he was referring to Obelisk the Tormentor (Effect Monster). It says "The Normal Summon of this card cannot be negated." so Solemn won't work. Falzar FZ 09:53, September 27, 2009 (UTC)