User talk:Tantara/archive2

Hello, I'd like to help create Deck Guides.
Before I say anything else, I'd like to apologize to a few people for the Alien deck page incident. At the time I misunderstood the rules of the wiki, so I'm deeply sorry if I caused any one problems with that. (I was known as Joker Yaffle then)

Annywaays, I'd like to apply to become a Deck Guide maker. I'm a skilled Frog, Ojama and Alien user(Aliens esp.) Decks I've made for these deck types have been praised well by many that I've played locals in. They often say "Wow, its nice to see such under used/appreciated archtypes be used in a well built deck." This may be meaningless to you because, well, I usually don't participate in the forums and whatnot posting deck help and stuff. I usually just use this wikia for rulings and looking up cards... but when I saw this "Deck Guide" idea, I really wanted to jump in and help. Helping new users of deck types to better understand them, I'd really like to do that. Esp. for Aliens. I see many Alien users flounder about not knowing where to go with their Alien deck, because there is so much to do with them. So by making a guide they will know what not to use, what to do and what deck variants perform well for the current meta.

Oh, and if you want further proof of me being a good deck builder for Aliens/Frogs/Ojamas you can ask around in the Yu-G-Oh! Thread of the Table Top Forum of Gaia Online. I suggest you talk with Toltirr, he knows me best. He is also a fellow skilled Alien user. Me and him discuss strategies and whatnot. :3 --Lifisali 00:00, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

whats up? Blackwingggys 00:12, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Alright, Tantara. I'll get busy posting my Alien deck then on my profile, with full expo on its strategy and whatnots. I'll post a message here again to let you know when I'm done. --Lifisali 00:30, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

hey i have a sarco for trade Blackwingggys 00:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

gold sarcopagus Blackwingggys 00:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay, Alien Deck example finished.
Its on my profile, so take a look Tantara. Pretty sure I got it right. I basically explained the cards and whatnot, with the strategy explained along the way. Good? --Lifisali 02:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Also it seems you'd like me to post one for Ojamas and Frogs too. Yes? --Lifisali 02:26, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

So...
I'll get working on those Frogs and Ojama examples then.

Oh, and the Alien deck has only 15 monsters for a reason. The deck only needs 15 monsters, and anymore simply clutters the deck anyways. I've learned this though the many countless test plays I've done. Unless of course when using the Evil Dragon Ananta variant of the deck, which it would bump the monster count up to 18. But I'll get further in depth with that when I'm writing the deck guide, but I'll make note of that on my profile page. --Lifisali 02:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Think you could give me some links so I can see these "expert" decks/conversations? And I've taken into consideration that maybe the monster count should be higher. Two Alien Greys made it 17, but I needed other more important things like PPV. Snake Rain at 3 is completely fine. Unless theres some hidden logic behind dropping it to 2? It speeds the deck up in so many ways, I really don't see why I'd want it to be only at 2. --Lifisali 03:08, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

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"After this card has been flipped face-up, when it is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, draw 1 card."

Direct quote from Alien Grey's lore. According to that, I'm pretty sure it does. : /

Ummm... is this some sort of test to see whether or not I'm legit? Because, after looking that deck list over 5 times, that certainly is not an expert Alien deck. Utterly horrible. Crop Circles? Corruption Cell A? Alien Skull? Really bad card choices there. He doesn't even run the proper amounts right. Alien Kid should be at three. Ruins should be in three. Mysterious Triangle should be at three. Missing quite a few things. Armory Arm, Threatening Roar, Avenging Knight Parshath. The only things that I approve of are Solidarity and United we Stand.

But I do see your logic with Snake Rain now. I don't worry about it though. If its really an issue, a couple Alien Greys can be fitted in then.

Something smells fishy. Your joking about that deck, right? --Lifisali 03:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that.
I don't mean to be mean or rude, but just being honest. That guy had a few things right, but if thats the sort of thing you'd want on this website, then well... I don't even want to think about it. You'd be way better off with my kind of knowledge of Aliens, and many I know would agree with me. I'm just keeping the health of the community on wikia in mind, you know? These people want solid, not that sub-par stuff.

Okay, maybe I am sounding a bit uptight. But the truth is cold and hard.

Anyways, you still want those ojama and frog examples?

I think that there was a little confusion
I was checking out your Deck Guide Forum and saw what you guys had said about me, and while I appreciate BEWK's comment on my knowledge of different decks, that wasn't what I had wanted to join. I had wanted to help you out with the Decks for Free thing, ie: taking advantage of a budget, and helping out with those decks, the one on which I posted my CB deck for help but as I have delved into that forum more and more everyday, I have realized that I wouldn't know the prices of cards, or which ways it would be to run a deck more smoothly or competively. I will let that stay with you experts. I would have to agree with your judgement of my knowledge and skills with different decks, that being that I know some but not enough, and would not want to put a mediocre guide out there either.

What I had meant was that this forum has helped me out so much, and has renewed my love for this game that we all play, I would like to help out other novice duelists with any ability that I possess come to love this game and appreciate it as much as I have come to love and appreciate it. And, was thinking the best way I could do that was to help out other people with their decks, in your decks for free things, as I had stated previously a great idea and concept.

So you can erase my requests from joining these massive undertakings, and I will continue to help out where I can by making small changes on other posts. Again, thanks for even considering me for a position with either one, I appreciate it.

Duelist33(My Talk) 16:46, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

hi tantara whats up! Blackwingggys 21:28, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

IRC
can you duel with me, right now??? --User:Javielito 12

hey there, idk if you remember me from the IRC, but i was wondering...is the ultimate rare black rose up for trade?Silver4X 05:32, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Alright.
Alright. I'll go along with what you say. I'm going to go have a long talk with this "expert" of yours though. If he is the expert of Aliens on TCGplayer, then I'm the Alien expert of Gaia Online. I've looked at his guide on tcgplayer. Decent. A few of the decks he listed there changed my mind about him. I myself wouldn't call him an expert, but at least he knows what he is doing. Somewhat.

I won't be writing those other two examples on my profile, though. As of now I don't even really care whether or not I'm accepted into this project; I'm writing a guide for Aliens on GO, so...*shrug*. But if you do let me do it for Wikia, then great. I'd be happy to.

BTW, I'm going to ask him why he isn't using Snake Rain. Oh, and never mind you. You don't seem to be very intelligent when it comes to Aliens, so me and your friend shall talk, debate and discuss the whatnots. --Lifisali 06:26, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Oh really?
I don't like you, because you refuse to understand the obvious. I understand your good intentions and opinions, but you need to understand mine.

The YGO community may be small in number, but the majority of the players are highly skilled. Saiyan Knight is our Six Samurai expert, Ritemaster Wilren is our ritual know-it-all, and Kyo Carnage(Known by most as Thai) is one of our Pro Players. And many others as well. Actually, there hardly isn't any "n00b" players at all; all of the regulars of the YGO thread are strong and intelligent duelists.

I've heard little of TCGplayer other then the fact most of the users are unskilled, even stupid. I'd like to see you give some actual examples of some skilled players. :/ What you've shown to me so far doesn't impress me what so ever.

I've set my deck up to fit my own personal play style. I see nothing wrong with it, and have found no problems while playing. And you still fail to see the obvious reasons why Snake Rain is quite essential and important to an Alien deck.

I will explain this further in a second post later. --Lifisali 19:37, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, wow. So made a mess, once again.
Ah. Well, I've never bothered to venture onto those sites, so I only know what I hear from what the other Gaia regulars say of such sites. Hmmm. I've recently joined Pojo, and I brought up the subject of Snake Rain. I knew the negative sides of Snake Rain, but I've never bothered o worry about it. Some of the explanations the Alien Pojo people provided helped clarify this for me. I apologize for my inappropriate behavior, Tantara. Gee, another slip up once again. Haha, wow. XD Hmmm. I wasn't being too mean, was I? D: Do you forgive me? ;3; I do sort of still want to make the guide... but I understand if you say no. --Lifisali 01:17, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

:D Yay!
Oh, thank you so much. You're way to kind. I'm really shocked you'd forgive such insults...

I'll get to work on those examples as soon as I can then. And they'll be super good. :3333 --Lifisali 01:33, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

hi tantara you have had so much HW but i would like to duel you ok? Blackwingggys 18:41, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

hey get on Blackwingggys 15:00, September 5, 2009 (UTC) ##yugi

Sorry i missed the part where it told me to post here, but thanks for considering me anyway.

Doz Bate 19:28, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

hey what up Blackwingggys 21:34, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

hello tantara i will give you the honor of joining my dueling help team what we do is help duelists with there strategy's [] Blackwingggys 22:19, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

my dekc building skills have improved Blackwingggys 23:59, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

i didnt start it hydronic said it so Blackwingggys 00:52, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

I'm willing to do Morphtronics as well.
I've done much research and study of this archtype. I've read throughly alot of guides for them on Pojo, and of course what this site had to offer as well. Its a very simple archtype. Some think its complicated, but really its an easy to understand archtype.

They may not be in my current line of specialty, but thats nothing I can't overcome. A few weeks of dueling with my recently built 'tronic deck at locals should fix that.(My locals if FULL of top-tier players, I'm certainly going to learn alot from playing with Morphtronics there)

If you need some evidence of my good deck making skills, I'd be more then welcome to make a deck exammple for Morphtronics on my profile page.

Geez, I've got big work load ahead of me. Nothing I don't mind doing though. <3 --Lifisali 17:00, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

Ooops, forgot to login. Edited my signature. XD

how is trygon going to be banned he has to :( i want that jerk banned!!! Blackwingggys 01:38, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

hey i fixed up all the decks on my page you can take a look in still trying to make them better though Blackwingggys 14:47, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

yeah thats what im working on trying to get another eruption but if i get vayu in going to put elfen back in Blackwingggys 15:01, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

get on the IRC

I will cancel the deck on Decks for free,
If it's not possible to do, I posted it a while ago and no one seems to be picking it up. Is the deck not possible to make, I don't want to cause any problems with it, I know that you guys are extremely busy, but the CB Archetype is so good it has to be able to compete with some of the better decks at the moment. It was under the section titled, this is an awesome idea.

Duelist33(My Talk) 17:36, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

hey we have a new IRC channel for the forum its
 * 1) forumeta Blackwingggys 22:30, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Re: to removing the deck I won't then
I know that you are doing this on your own time, and I don't want to rush you, I just know that the Archetype is older, and dated and didn't know if my request was out of reach for even you guys. I will leave it there, and wait. I didn't want to overstep my boundries, and apologize for doing that, I know that you are extremely busy, and didn't want to cluter up your forum with an impossible accomplishment. I think you guys do a wonderful job, and will check out that archive.

Duelist33(My Talk) 17:32, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

I went through the archives of decks for free
And, I just wanted to tell all of you that you guys are awesome when it comes to deck building, all of those decks that you create are phenomenal. I wouldn't have even thought of the majority of them. Great job to each of you.

Duelist33(My Talk) 17:49, September 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * Still look it over by the parameters that I listed, but there is no hurry, as I am utilizing the one from the Archive, until you get it done. I wanted to see if we could tech in the Earthbound Immortal monkey. But whatever you think would be best, I don't have to have it in there. But if a viable card, that would be great.  I am not a fan of taking one that was already done and using it as I believe they should be more individual.

Duelist33(My Talk) 01:48, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Yo!!
Can ya take a look on my deck list at my user page if you have time give tips and rate it--Supremdragonking 03:27, September 10, 2009 (UTC) thanks.

hey im not going to you know have 3 eruptions but i have 2 but i am getting a solemn so i will take out a delta crow for it Blackwingggys 14:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

welll when i getttt oooonnnneeee i wwwillll pppuuuttt iitttt in my deck! Blackwingggys 14:15, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

get on the IRC i really need to talk to you! Blackwingggys 21:30, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Deck guides
I don't think I'll be able to make one, mainly because I have schoolwork and also because I'm not particularly good enough with any decks, so I'm gonna remove myself from that section. I can still work on the Decks for Free page, if you want/need me too. Sorry for any inconvenience. --Bluedog (Talk) 00:52, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

hey do you have any like help for a dragon deck i really need some help i will just put it up on decks for free! Blackwingggys 01:28, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Well, thanks for understandin'. --Bluedog (Talk) 01:38, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

please dont cuss Blackwingggys 12:05, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the CB deck Tantara
I really appreciate it, I had to spend very little money on it, so I was wondering did you have a side deck that would work well for it for the Meta decks going around, or will it work on it's own against them. There is no hurry, as I have seen the line, but if you have an idea just drop it to me in your own time. I haven't been able to playtest it as I am waiting for my one Bottomless Trap Hole when i get it I will tell you how it runs.

Duelist33(My Talk) 18:09, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I can do that, and will if you want me to

Duelist33(My Talk) 14:51, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

thanks tantara i am so happy! :) Blackwingggys 15:04, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Review of your Angel Return Deck (Or something of that sort)
Hi, I'm a new user of Yugioh Wikia, however I have been dueling for quite a while now, and can therefore be more or less confident about reviewing decks. Having been to at least ten official Konami tournaments before (6 in Japan, 3 in New York, 1 in Singapore, others in vaguely named places I didn't bother to remember), I must say that I have a few doubts about that Fairy Deck of yours. I have been playing a Counter-Fairy Deck for 6 months now, modifying it to suit the current metagame now and then, and with a glance at the list of monsters on your Angel Return Deck I know I could defeat you if ever I met you. Please take no offense to my statements, I really wish to help you make the Angel Return Deck better (mostly because I think Fairies are the strongest Type in the game :P)

One MAJOR adjustment you need is the inclusion of at least 2 Honest. Airknight Parshath is good and all, however you should know that 1900 ATK just doesn't cut it these days, especially with Synchros running around. Honest would make sure Parshath does his Battle Damage to the opponent, giving you more hand advantage via his effect. Also, Sanctuary in the Sky and Valhalla, Hall of the Fallen should not be put in 3s each. If you really like one, take one copy of the other card out, to include better cards instead of wasting space on two copies of cards you might already have out (and which are searchable, too, one via Zeradias & the other via Hecatrice). Finally, Bottomless Trap Hole beats Draining Shield any day, and despite your focus being Life Point regeneration & drawing cards, I would urge you to make sure to control your opponent's options too.

If you have created your Return of the Angels Deck for pure fun, completely ignore everything I have just written. However, if you someday intend to take that deck to a tournament and expect it to win consistently, do heed at least one of the advice I have given, to make sure Fairies stay at the top of the metagame, the place they truly deserve to stay. :)

Cheers, The IllusionMeister

Reply
Oh, I'm sorry. I was looking at the deck you had on your user page :P Which had the Athena, 3 Parshath, 1 Neo-Parshath? That didn't have Honest. My bad. :)

The IllusionMeister

FREE DECKS
Can anyone help make the decks on this page better cause i wanna fix the dark world deck is that ok?--Berfomet 21:42, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Invited
how would i tell you my decks just post them on my page?

about morphotronic guide
hey i want to look a morphotronic guide in the deck guides area. because its something good and i want to see the guide (maybe it will be my next deck)

hey another think. i maked a gladiator beast deck.

--User:Javielito 12

Decks for free
you said if i showed you my decks you'd determine if i could join so just go to my page all 3 are there :) --Berfomet 23:07, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

free decks
ok i'll give a trial tomorow--Berfomet 00:54, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

i'll just do it now ok?--Berfomet 00:55, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Trial deck help
i finished the decks for free thing i did the dark world deck and did a pretty good job if i do say so myself give it a look--Berfomet 01:39, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

ok thanks for giving me a chance i thought i explaind it well--Berfomet 01:47, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

It looks alright. Let him join, if ya want. --Bluedog (Talk) 01:59, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Berformet
Nah...I wouldn't add him. He scored so-so on the test, and has very odd (not good) card choices. Oh yeah, I joined your forum.

???? whats wrong with my choice in cards bewk????--Berfomet 22:37, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * I consider this evesdropping... and fixing the test after you've got your grade is cheating..lol.. --Tantara (talk) 22:41, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

what did i change was it the silva thing thats my bad i posted that up at like 1:00 am in the morning my time so i just thought i wouldput up the stuff i forgot thats why the explination on the traps is like 1 sentence long--Berfomet 22:45, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Your wants
I have magical android and torrential tribute. torrential tribute is ultra rare (LON-025).... Psychic Duelist 03:30, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

im interested in elemental heroes. if you have stratos i will trade both plus a colossal fighter you want. i also have 2 il bluds if your interested, but their CSOC-ENSE2 Psychic Duelist 21:42, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

umm it says that forumeta is being built up but i think he shut it down Blackwingggys 14:37, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

understandable, stratos is a very rare card. ok, could you please post your e-hero "crap" and support and i will tell you what i want. thanks.... Psychic Duelist 20:58, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

not all crap, you have some holos in there. sorry to keep bothering you but could you tell me what you have. im making a hero beatdown deck, maybe i'll find something i need. thanks again.... Psychic Duelist 21:24, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Placing VayuTurbo and ZombieCharge
VayuTurbo should go under "Blackwing Guide", and I'll cover ZombieCharge (or "ZombieSworn" as I'll refer to it) in my "Lightsworn Guide". --Darth Covah (Talk | Contribs) 19:54, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Berfomet
please let me join the forum i saw a GB deck on it and i wanna fix it sooooooooooooooooooo bad--Berfomet 02:55, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and a question.
I wanted to take a moment to thank you once more for the Ancient Gear deck build. I love the simplicity and clean lines in your decks, and hope I'll get there myself someday (rofl, like that'll ever happen).

If you don't mind me asking, how long have you been playing Yugioh? I'm just trying to establish where I'm at in my learning curve. I'm starting to see combos now, using the newer cards, so that means I've come a ways. It's just been tough after being away for a few years.

Anyhow, thanks again - and don't burn yourself out on that Decks for Free thread. That would be SOOO easy to do. Better to lock that thread, and let people go through the forum like old times, than for you to lose interest in Yugioh. That would be a loss.

Kungfu-mama 16:11, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Need Help Understanding Ancient Gear Deck
Yes, it's because I'm a newb. I just want to make sure I've got the gist of this deck before I dump money into it. Doesn't help me if I don't understand how to use it, hmmm ?

Anyhow, what I get when I look at this deck is that it really IS geared for that FTK - that's why the Power Bond cards, which you would only use very early on in the game. The focus here is to get out your Fusion monsters ASAP, right? Also, you'd probably never really play (set) an Ancient Gear Beast, or Ancient Gear Golem - these cards are more just fodder for your Fusion summons. In otherwords, they go from hand to graveyard for Fusion Summoning a monster, right? (Of course, I do understand that Golem comes back if Ultimate Ancient Gear Golem is destroyed - nice effect, that).

Cyber Valley is to protect you, and allow you to get at cards you really need, as is Card Trooper.

I am having a little trouble understanding why this deck seems to favor Chimeratech Overdragon over Chimeratech Fortress Dragon, though. And, the reason for Ancient Gear Gadjiltron Dragon is puzzling me - extra muscle, perhaps? More tribute fodder?

That's it for the questions. If you can help me with any tips, or by correcting or adding to anything I've stated above, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks again, and thanks for your patience. Kungfu-mama 18:30, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Almost have it, but ...
Your post mentions Geartown and this particular build doesn't seem to have Geartown in it?!?! Help, please?!?! Kungfu-mama 20:46, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

NOW I get it!!! Thanks for hearing me out! Kungfu-mama

Maybe.
I'm not sure. I've been pretty busy with school and family stuff.

I don't think I've been making time for it in my schedule. I'll see if I can get started on it this weekend... --Lifisali 14:46, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Morphtronics?
I've noticed no ones taken an interest Morphtronics yet. Could I perhaps cover the Equip varient(the one I'm most specialized in)? I'm considered one of the best morphtronic users on Gaia Online, according to Mydia anyways.

--Lifisali 14:55, October 13, 2009 (UTC)