User talk:Dinoguy1000/Archive/2010/06

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hi Dinoguy1000!

thank you very much for protecting my page! --Modo assalto 15:43, June 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hello Modo Assalto! No problem, just ping me if you'd like it unprotected again at any time. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 18:50, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

RE: GrouchMan
Are you taking me seriously? It's him who need to stop doing those edits he always done so far. And also I told him to move on, Sesame Street are for kids who are at least under 10 years old, and he's like 19-20 years old. --FredCat100 02:20, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Your messages to him on his talk page here are pretty clearly taunting and insulting him. If you feel he is somehow inferior to you because he still likes Sesame Street at his age (which there is really nothing wrong with), you are merely stooping to his level by engaging in this type of behavior. Regardless, I posted to Deltaneos' talk page only as an impartial and concerned editor; I'm leaving any decisions as to what happens entirely up to him. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 02:24, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Approximate name
Hi got your last message. Actually, to tell you the truth translating card names in greek is the ONLY useful thing i do here. I used to add lores and trivia too but i kicked that habbit. Anyway, i'm aware of the Approximate name template or whatever you call it. I have used it several times. But since it was a bit boring adding it all the time, i chose to offer this sentence as an edit summary: "Approximate greek name added". I thought it was pretty much the same and if someone wants to change or even revert my edits then he knows all abt them. Plus, lately i added a new section in my user page where i list all the names who have been loosely translated. I know most people don't give a crap abt them but who knows maybe someone could be interested. If you want me to add the "approximate name" thing each time i think it's necessary, then yes by all means i'll. After all i want my transaltions to be a 100% accurate. (yeah i know that's impossible)

In fact, the YGO series have already been translated in my language. Keep this between us; the translators did an awful work. Besides, i'm sure the game itself will never be translated in greek. I'm only doing this to help people who don't speak english so well. Aren't I a good Samaritan? LOL

BTW, what did you mean by saying "reply here"? Look, if you meant my Talk Page then i'm really sorry i replied here. I wasn't sure what you meant that's all. (dude, you have like 100 links in your signature!)

P.S. In extreme cases i've also created pages under the link card names where i give the literal translation. --Montechristo95 23:12, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation
Thanks for the explanation about bot flags. Fallensilence 18:58, June 15, 2010 (UTC)Fallensilence

Card Names:Arcana Force 0 - The Fool
I created this page today and I also thought abt doing that. I was waiting for Deltaneos' permission that's all. I wasn't sure if it was ok with the Wikia policy to do that. --Montechristo95 20:37, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

And to answer your question, no I wouldn't put it on the trivia page. I believe it's more abt the name itself. No matter how stupid this may sound, it's some sort of definition for the english name given. I dunno... we can talk abt this if you want. --Montechristo95 20:44, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Approximate card names
I didn't mind you butting in, but I did mind you misspelling my name xD. Yeah, the discussion did reach a dead end abruptly to be honest. I do add the "Approximate" tag whenever adding unofficial names. As for other cards that need the tag, and the bot, well it is a good idea. However, I'll have to find some way to get a hold of the Greek dubbed anime (which stopped being produced at some random point) and get the cards as well as the official names. That will be a big pain - maybe more than it's worth. But I'll see what I can do about it. I'll keep you posted. --Darth Covah (Talk | DeckZone | Binder) 01:42, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi it's me. Well, i noticed some of your edits and i thought abt asking you sth. Does it really matter if i don't write the approximate name in capital? I mean, it appears normally when the edit is over. And one more thing; is it necessary to put the approximate names and the translated names in general, in alphabetical order? Thanks. --Montechristo95 07:00, June 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Neither is strictly necessary, but it's probably better in the long run to be anal about it. =) Don't worry *too* much about either issue if you find them too much trouble to bother with; my bot will take care of them on its maintenance runs (assuming I can ever figure out how to automate alphabetization). =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 07:53, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Question
Sorry if i am becoming annoying; when i wanna add an unofficial approximation, what do I write? Thanks! --Montechristo95 22:36, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, you're not annoying - I needed a wake-up call (or a nap)... =) Hmm... If you mean, you want to specifically mark an unofficial translation as approximate, there's no built-in way to do so... you could use Approximate name instead of Unofficial name, but there's no guarantee it won't be updated to the non-redirect name (and indeed, my bot is currently changing it like that). For now, I guess, you can add another parameter, something like . It's not actually supported by the template currently, but my bot will leave it alone and support can always be added in the future if necessary. Hope this helps! 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 22:43, June 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm gonna give it a try. Thanks again for your reply. --Montechristo95 22:51, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Hey what's up? It's me. All right look, I left you this message in order to apologise for the trouble I got you into today reading torn-apart conversations. I shouldn't have lost my temper so easiy over such a trivial issue. Maybe you want to invite RabbitUp to join the forum. (that is if you haven't done so already) --Montechristo95 22:52, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's no problem; that just happens to be one of my pet peeves. =) This discussion may have been better suited for the forum, though, true. From what I gathered, though, it sounds like you've been using Google for your translations - there's nothing inherently wrong with this, but Google's translations should be taken with a grain of salt, instead of as Word of God. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 23:14, June 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm only using Google when i'm stuck with a difficult word or i'm not sure abt sth. I don't think it's that wrong to do it but i'll pay attention to your advice. I'm also using the freeonlinedictionary when google fails to give me the answer i need. --Montechristo95 23:23, June 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Aah, that's not so bad. It sounded like you were simply plugging words into it and running with the given translations. If you don't mind a bit more advice (and can work around the fact that it comes from translating between Japanese and English, which is miles away from Greek<->English), I find it often helps, after translating to the target language, to plug the offered translation back in and see what Google Translate does with it. This can also lead to other possibilities for the translation to use, depending what it says about the word's definitions, synonyms, etc. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 23:28, June 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have to say I'm kinda offended by you for thinking that even for a second. I'm always trying to have my translations 100% accurate so that I can avoid incidents like my quarrel with RabbiUp. Whenever I'm not sure abt a translation I give, then i offer a summary which mentions it so that others can improve it. Don't think I forget the approximations I give; i will definitely improve them someday. If you still doubt abt my skills as a translator, you can ask other greek translators here to tell you their opinions abt me. (even RabbitUp recognised my edits). I hate it when one of my translation is proven wrong and I also admit that I'm prideful abt my edits and i don't like being correctioned by anyone. It's true that I had several argues today but they did point out some of my mistakes and I'll try to correct them. Again, thanks for your advice; I've already tried that in the past but I stopped it because it was time-consuming and also it made me feel depended on Google. --Montechristo95 23:39, June 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that, it wasn't my intention to offend you by any means - that's just what it seemed like you were saying, based on what I was able to get out of the conversation, but it is hardly my opinion of you. =) I know it can be quite time-consuming (though I'd wager it doesn't hold a candle to attempting to back-translate English chapter titles into the original Japanese, when I have the original Japanese chapter titles but no way to copy them, and do not read Japanese myself @_@ ). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 23:47, June 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well thanks for your apology, it made me feel better; or at least it calmed down my ravenous anger. For your information, most of RabbitUp's edits were corrections of the style adding capital letters to the words or giving an alternate synonym which in most cases was proven to be wrong. I've put quite The effort these days to translate card names and maybe I'm devoting too much time in this Wiki. But I think my translation project is well-organised and correct and I can't accept insultive and pointless corrections or doubts by other users. To tell you the truth, I seriously considered abandoning this Wiki today after all that happenned and I do feel really bad for annoying Deltaneos for nothing.
 * Btw, I didn't know you did that; that must be quite tiring to say the very least. But I guess when you have a passion for sth you can keep doing it no matter how much exhausting it might be. --Montechristo95 23:58, June 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * It can be hard sometimes, but always try to remember - it's only the Internet. If you have to, step away from your monitor for five minutes and just try to relax or something. =)
 * And yeah, it wasn't easy, and I ended up with several kanji which didn't really match, but I couldn't find anything better for them - the series, BTW, was Planetes, and I definitely have a passion for the medium (manga). =D 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 00:07, June 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes I've actually tried this several times. But today it would just not work. The guy pissed me off with his attitude and the thing that really drove me over the edge was the fact that he looked down on me because he's older than me by 5 years. What a vast difference don't you think? I could also post some crap like "I'm 25 years old and I speak English fluently". It would be a lot easier that way. But I guess I pay the price for being frank. --Montechristo95 00:21, June 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it can be hard trying to be the bigger man. =) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 00:57, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Archiving
Thanks for help fixing it. But I would go with second choice that Deltaneos was given, since I am still inexperience with all Wikia details. --FredCat100 (talk • contribs) 23:21, June 26, 2010 (UTC)