User talk:Pitifulheartles

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Hi and welcome to the Yu-Gi-Oh! wiki! Thank you for your edit to the Set Card Lists:Dark Neostorm (OCG-JP) page.

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Rename
Yeah, as people said, only admins can rename pages. You need a more solid proof to show why the page needs to be renamed. ☺ Energy X ☻ 21:42, December 17, 2018 (UTC)
 * Dude stop changing it. There's no proof that's the name it's been given. We don't accept renames based only on personal views. --MasterMarik (talk • contribs) 00:10, December 18, 2018 (UTC)
 * Guess I win. 16:10, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Reply
Well, the new rule says you need to be active for a year. It sounds a bit too strict, but either way, you definitively need to spend some more tie here. ☺ Energy X ☻ 16:14, January 4, 2019 (UTC)


 * I am the one responsible for writing those; just got a message from Energy X regarding this. While I understand you want pages renamed, you can start participating in it by using the template, and after discussion (if any), the mod will do it for you.
 * And ADMIN cannot help you in getting CONTENT MOD, ony BUREAUCRAT can. To check the list of users, use Special:Listusers, and you can filter them by right with the tick box above the table.

0123456789 The Great 17:08, January 4, 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, don't really know the "rules" on this wiki yet but I understand the 1 year thing. Pitifulheartles (talk • contribs) 17:42, January 4, 2019 (UTC)
 * They are not "rules", just a "general requirement". They are always open for discussion, and anyone can always request the right. The requirement only serves as a factor that ensure more likeliness of success. 0123456789 The Great 17:53, January 4, 2019 (UTC)


 * Just some of these translations are just painful. アルマドゥーク is not Almarduk... And while I understand イドリース is Idlee to some since Iblee, but that monster is far more suited to be called Idolee after idolum just due to what she's become. Pitifulheartles (talk • contribs) 18:20, January 4, 2019 (UTC)


 * If there are stuff on a certain page that should be fixed, you can always use the Talk Page of that page. 0123456789 The Great 02:50, January 6, 2019 (UTC)
 * EDIT: Typo and timestamp fix

RE: Your 'Pedia CC rebuttal
SALUTATIONS, Pitifulheartles!! We haven't met yet but you can just call me Ryan instead of my username if you'd like. :)

I initially would of voiced my concerns regarding his Yugipedia post on Igor's page but I figure to put this here instead if that's okay because where I come from (Philadelphia, PA/Philly), we're proud to directly speak our minds about anything and defend out fellow Philadelphian if necessary, ("no one likes us, we don't care" after all!) >:}

About UltimateKuriboh's "laying down of the law" about Creative Commons (CC) 4.0, believe me, I sincerely wished what you said about keeping up with some of their content was true. I don't speak for anyone but Igor and I never meant any malice when we cited Yugipedia for some of our edits. In fact, au contraire--I would hope that we would all want Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikia to stay up-to-date with all the YGO content coming out (namely the International content here, such as this) which I've recently tried to fill some of this void due to a creative lull I've had these past few weeks here. Both CCs were TL|DR all of it for me but unfortunately, per this page showing what's new in 4.0, the section "Enabling more anonymity, when desired" is what stood out to me the most, was the most layman's terms I read and what I think UK meant:

"Version 3.0 included a provision allowing a licensor to request that a licensee remove the attribution from an adaptation, if she did not want her name associated with it. Version 4.0 expands that provision to apply not only to adaptations but also to verbatim reproductions of a work. Licenses now account specifically for situations where licensors wish to disassociate themselves from uses of their works they object to, even if their work hasn’t been modified or published in a collection with other works."

So if I am interpreting this correctly, any such "licensor" (in this case, being the Yugipedia site itself) has near Disney-level control on not just their content but probable replications of it, whether we copy it or we add/upload ours from scratch, yet may resemble any of theirs. Clearly when it comes to this though, it's a catch-22 double standard. Content like say, card Trivia/Tips or descriptions/images of anime episodes, manga chapters, characters and settings are one thing (because they can be ambiguously worded out in a multitude of ways and multiple instances of such images exist in different forms) but content like say character Deck lists, card images, booster pack pictures, Structure/Starter Deck images, promotional posters, game mats, toys, instrumental compositions, book/manuscript covers and maybe even video game screen captures are much more rigid in terms of information and graphic examples of such. Given what I was doing to keep up with them because we account for all International Yu-Gi-Oh! aspects (not just Japanese/English,) consider this: If we're forced to either settle for say, lesser quality images than what 'Pedia has (e.g. the cards I found for this page compared to what astounding images 'Pedia folk have found,) or simply not acknowledge YGO items or updated/changed information not on here yet because 'Pedia folk beat us to it, then we'll always be playing second fiddle to them because of how so much more well-rounded they've been doing stuff and that should NOT be the case with us, for this is where it all started!

This being the Internet, I thought having TWO FREE COMPREHENSIVE Yu-Gi-Oh! information bastions would be better than one because we're all passionate and geeky devotees (to some degree) of this amazing overall franchise @ the end of the day. But I got incensed not only from this notion that this pretty much became a competition but how UK attempted to heel turn Igor over to them. One offer was more than enough and what Energy X said is all the truth there is to this--it's Igors choice, NOT' UK's where he chooses to continue his immaculate contributions to!

Personally, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. As FANDOM users, we can contribute to other FANDOM Wikias that we love under one account. Moreover, I'd never go to Yugipedia because I know I'm persona non grata there and most importantly, I felt I've done SO much more here in the past months that what I did here the 21/2 years here when I was formerly ArcadiasScholarly (back when a couple things in my life were prominently tougher than now.) There's no way in the bluest of hells that I'm gonna throw this second chance I have here out but there must be a way to easily keep up with some of the contents (including relics like this) that the much more experienced guard there are seamlessly uprooting (though these were MY proudest finds, of which some I used to read.  What do you think of all this, how I feel and what we should best do?  Thanks, be well and take it easy!  :))--May FORZA be with you, your loved ones and friends!! (talk • contribs) 19:35, March 21, 2019 (UTC)

So, what does all this specifically mean for us? Do we have to change our method of working? Or do we continue as what we were doing? Sorry, i am not so good with these sort of stuffs.--Supratim1986 (talk • contribs) 19:56, March 21, 2019 (UTC)


 * SALUTATIONS, Supratim1986!! Nice ta meet ya too--As I said to this user, you can call me Ryan (my real first name) too if you'd like.  No need to apologize about expertise I ain't no genius either.  In fact, thank you for in-part, your voluminous "keeping up" with the anime and OCG/TCG!  :D


 * I'm in no position to dictate what we should all do and do not (and even if I was or more than a commoner user, I don't have such a bone in my body for that sort of thing) but to me, this is so pot meet kettle. UK doesn't want 'Pedia's content replicated yet not only did the whole of the old guard START here (hope they all remember where it all began) but are they all trying to foster competition for views by implying Yugipedia is better than us (mostly) because of a couple "kinks" FANDOM has?  Personally I'm not bothered by a few pop-ups and I don't make edits on mobile devices but trying to Benedict Arnold one of this Wikia's most conscientious users in Igor several times went too far in my book and I felt I had to speak up!  Let anyone who wants to stay here stay and more importantly, let's welcome any new good intentioned users here that wants ta help out!


 * To answer your main concern though, what say we append Energy X to the convo; I'd love to know what he best thinks we should do. But there's no way we should ever "lower" our doings here because YugDisneyPedia wants to 1-UP where it all began (i.e. if you look @ the above links I put to the Italian prints of the Wave of Light Structure Deck on both sites, Yugipedia's finds look brand new and zoomed in whereas some of my finds either aren't forward facing or if they are, look like they've been collecting dusty bunnies for two hours.  I had to re-upload some of them namely due to undercropping and sometimes finding better ones but it's been cumbersome for second-class images and 'Pedia's ITs for this set far eclipse my finds!)--May FORZA be with you, your loved ones and friends!! (talk • contribs) 01:24, March 22, 2019 (UTC)

Read. Please
Please at least read before you do this kind of edit.Whatever1234567 (talk • contribs) 08:42, April 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * A quick search in the database and you can easily see there's been no use of the word "god" (and I mean "god", not "goddess") apart from the text of "Divine Dragon Ragnarok": names and card text. There's never been any problems with "goddess" because it is not considered particularly religious.Whatever1234567 (talk • contribs) 08:47, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

The Japanese name was shortened for a reason. It doesn't have to make sense in English
If the original name was intended to be "Natural", it would have been spelt "Natural". It doesn't have to make sense to you. Please don't touch anything unless you remotely know what you're doing.Whatever1234567 (talk • contribs) 08:25, April 6, 2019 (UTC)
 * Nachuru in JP is Natural. Pitifulheartles (talk • contribs) 23:32, April 6, 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, boy. You almost made me spit my coffee. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Nobody with "more knowledge of JP than you hope to ever know" would say "Nachuru is Japanese for natural" with a straight face. You do know that you can Google right? If you do, you know that "Nachuru" is something Konami MADE UP for Yu-Gi-Oh! alone, and it's NOT a real word , much less is it "Japanese for natural". At least get the admin discussing what should be a good translation. I'm open for discussion. Otherwise, I would not accept silly edits from someone clearly too overconfident for their ability.Whatever1234567 (talk • contribs) 06:27, April 7, 2019 (UTC)
 * Do join the talk at . Hope we can work it out.Whatever1234567 (talk • contribs) 06:32, April 7, 2019 (UTC)

Reverting
If you have some fuss about the user, then try talking to them. All this edit war only worsens things. ☺ Energy X ☻ 15:15, April 7, 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know what this person's deal is, but so far the best they offer is the claim that they have "more knowledge of Japanese", something that their own actions have proven not to be the case (unthoughtful edit, lack of evidence, overconfidence, refusal to cooperate). I know that fandom wikis have pretty loose standards, but this is too loose.Whatever1234567 (talk • contribs) 15:32, April 7, 2019 (UTC)
 * Nachuru is literally Natural in JP. Natul is not even a real word. Although not perfect, e instead of a, []. Pitifulheartles (talk • contribs) 15:46, April 7, 2019 (UTC)
 * Google Translate is not a reliable source. You should try finding better, official sources to support that fact. ☺ Energy X ☻ 13:41, April 8, 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to remember somewhere in the past that I heard Nachuru and saw translation as Natural but I can't pin it down. Pitifulheartles (talk • contribs) 13:51, April 8, 2019 (UTC)