Forum:Singular archetype page names?

Currently, generally speaking, archetype pages are plural: Crystal Beasts, Magnet Warriors, Ancient Gears, etc. Usually, there are redirects from the singular forms of these names to the plural, but if you feel like avoiding the redirect in a phrase such as "This monster is an Elemental Hero" (or if the redirect doesn't exist and you don't want to/can't create it for whatever reason), you would have to link like. By contrast, if archetype page names are singular, the link becomes, and linking the plural form is almost as simple:   (no, really: Elemental Heroes).

There are some other pages that currently have plural names as point of tradition which could benefit similarly from being renamed to their singular forms, so I'm including them here as well.

On a related note, it would make a lot of sense to me to rename the category Category:Archetype to "Category:Archetypes".

Thoughts? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 19:15, December 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Completely support. I did the same with Normal Summon, Special Summon etc. term many times before. It's good to see that we do this with archetypes as well. Blackwings0605 (talk) 06:31, December 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * We can just use Elemental Hero (Elemental Hero), it'll just redirect. I don't mind which way we do it though. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:38, December 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * I personally don't mind redirects too much myself, but in this case we can avoid needing them at all, and historically we have had trouble with users bypassing redirects even if the results end up being ridiculous. Would you rather edit a card's effect and see code like Elemental Heroes, or Elemental Hero (this form actually gets used a lot across the wiki, either specifically to avoid the redirect or because there isn't one)? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 07:07, December 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Elemental Heroes would be better, but then we'd still need to do: e.g. Counter Fairies ( Counter Fairies ) if that's the case. Fortunately, there aren't many of those.
 * It's also better to use 'Elemental Hero' anyway, as that's exactly what the cards say.
 * Agreed on Category:Archetypes. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 09:25, December 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I would agree that singular forms make much more sense, with the plural forms redirecting. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:25, December 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also agree. In terms of gameplay, archetype names are almost never given in plural as they're always given in the genitive case. e.g. "Elemental Hero" monsters, not "Elemental Heroes". Plural names are only used informally or in the anime/manga, but gameplay should probably get priority in this case.
 * And Category:Archetypes makes more sense than Category:Archetype. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:41, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'm also supporting changing to singular, but keeping plural redirects.AllanAokage (talk • contribs) 20:39, December 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * That sounds like the best option, keep how the cards refer to themselves, but have the plural redirects for us to use...BassNettoHikari2...Talk to me... 22:39, December 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Can we go ahead and start moving pages or should we wait for more comments? It's been over a week. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 06:14, January 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry to but in can I say something here?--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 13:56, January 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Go ahead Wasn't, that's why I started this forum discussion, so anyone who wanted to comment on this could. ;) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:01, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

☎ U know the Cybers template, Cyber Cards: [Cyber dark, girls, ogres, and dragons] I think we should do the same with Elemental hero cards with Elemental Hero Neos cards.--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 21:41, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * The Elemental Heroes archetype is a sub-archetype of "Heroes", so it's actually already sub-divided from Template:Hero. The Neos Heroes are also part of the "Neos" archetype. It's sort of already needlessly complicated. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:54, January 10, 2011 (UTC)