Talk:Life Stream Dragon (character)/Archive 1

Raging Battle
HAs anyone noticed that the websites that are selling this booster describe that Power Tool Dragon is one of the Five Dragon's? DracoX 16:19, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I've noticed as well I think that KDE (or who ever distributes Yugioh these days XD) might have gotten a tiny bit confused since Power Tool Dragon looks like a machine version of the 5th Dragon so it started to be advertised as one of the 5 Dragons, even though it isn't. --Trivi-AM 16:40, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

What website???

Well seen on shriekTCG, ideal 808, Toywiz. DracoX 04:40, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Well watching the early episodes the old guy said that the dragons have changed over the times not sure if it's relevant or not

Star Savior Dragon!
This is propaply the Star Savior Dragon from Stardust Overdrive!


 * Maybe... but we've been told "Savior Star Dragon" is one of Yusei's card. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:39, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Based on episode titles, Savior Star will be used in Yusei's upcoming rematch with Kiryu. I doubt the fifth Dragon would be introduced right in the middle of a duel with little buildup. Rodtheanimegod4ever 23:10, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Black Feather Dragon
Anyone think this is it? I do! About time it should be released. --AARONmeister 19:23, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * It is unknown as to what relations BFD and the Fifth Dragon will have not to mention what relation BFD will have to the Signers~MEOW~ Might of the BIRD Empire 20:32, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

i agree that black feather dragon is
 * I am going to wait untill we get some sort of picture of black feather dragon before i cast my vote--EMPSBladeKnight60 06:05, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

I Don't think BLFD is the fifth Dragon as the Fifth dragon looks nothing like a blackwing. No feathers, It's brown not black, I just see no resemblance.--Tapper930 21:16, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Blackfeather Dragon is not the Fifth Dragon.Altyrell 21:48, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know when the fifth dragon is going to come out. Is it even going to come out? Can someone tell me if the fifth dragon will appear?
 * Technically, it already had appeared and that was episode 30 :P, but now as to when it will appear in card form, no one knows that answer. Now what is funny about Episode 30, is that that is Crow's Debut Episode + it is the only Episode that showed the 5th Dragon + Crow is now the 5th Signer, how interesting.Altyrell 17:45, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

To me, the fifth dragon reminds me of Felgrand Dragon, but I know that it's more likely the fifth dragon is a synchro.--ILOD 05:59, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Black Feather Dragon IS the Fifth Dragon check Around
 * impossible bfd looks nothing like the fifth dragon while yes the translation seems to say bfd is the fifth we have to wait for ruka as she is the only one who saw the fifth dragon so unlessruka says it is we should say that it is not the fifth dragon

i think it is bfd because in the final yugioh episode after yusei jack and crow beat goodwin the mark yusei has goes to crow and yusei gets goodwins so it would be dumb for the fith signer crow to not have a dragon and he uses only blackwings so crow has to be it because why would one signer have to of the dragon (i mean after they all know aka jack takes yuseis after their final match before the fortune cup)

Luna's own interpretation
Has anyone considered that the fifth dragon could be explained away as Luna's own interpretation of the fifth dragon? She's already seen the previous four, but she could have imagined the fifth dragon to look like Leo/Rua's since she has not actually seen it.--CyanDeadEye 06:15, February 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * She didn't know what the Earthbound Gods looked like either, but imagined them correctly. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:51, February 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Either the dragon luna saw was just a placeholder for blackfeather dragon, or there's a subplot concerning it, that will be revealed later

Leo's new dragon
I Think leo will get it or bruno because in the close to you theme it shows all six dragons following them. So either leo or bruno may get the fifth dragon is what i think.

The original Fifth Dragon is also in BELIEVE IN NEXUS. I wonder, maybe the Fifth Dragon is an Accel Synchro and Power Tool is the non-Tuner Synchro that is used to summon it? Doesn't matter, cause this means the dragon will FINALLY be named and become a card! I'll bet it will be the cover card of the next set after Starstrike Blast.--71.80.67.80 22:57, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

One problem, Shooting Star Dragon is the cover card for Star Strike Blast. Altyrell 23:09, April 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Altyrell... look at this word; I'll bet it will be the cover card of the next set after Starstrike Blast.
 * That's obviously mean a booster AFTER SSB booster. --FredCat100 23:14, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Possible Theory
I could be possible, that sense we are supposed to learn about who Paradox is in one of the upcoming Epsiodes, is it possible that via the 5D's Series Timeline Paradox will have the Fifth Dragon?Altyrell 23:09, April 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * I doubt it.--71.80.67.80 00:05, April 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * the movies tend to be more non-canon side stories so paradox will likely not appearKazisaki 10:58, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * The movie is canon, get used to it.


 * The Yu-Gi-Oh! 10th Anniversary Animation Book said that Paradox will be appearing or have some sort of mention in the main series. That doesn't mean the film is canon, but does mean that Paradox can exist in the main continuity. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:19, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps this dragon was distroyed in the ancient battle with the Earthbound Immortals. And just like how Crow became a Signer after the defeat of the Goodwin brothers. Maybe the Signer dragons are the same when one dragon falls another is chosen to take it's place. --Tripodssj6 14:29, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Close to you
The Fifth Dragon shows up there, but it looks like it's got Double Tool C&D? I dunno, maybe it'll show up later... 76.231.195.152 Blaver 18:25, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

No it doesn't have Double Tool C&D. That long thing is a blade attached to it's arm. Besides, Double Tool only equips to Power Tool Dragon or a level 4 or higher Morphtronic monster. The Fifth Dragon is neither.--71.80.67.80 01:34, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

What the hell is wrong? Why can we no longer edit this page? Please change that! And soon.


 * It has been locked because Users make constant changes, most derived from speculation, and sometimes edit things to what that User thinks is the truth. The article is likely to remain locked until the identity of the Fifth Dragon and its associated user/wielder is also revealed to prevent unnecessary changes. DemonGodAsura 18:21, April 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * The dragon does appear in the most recent closing though. I think the article should mention it, perhaps as an indication that it could still be a part of the 5D's storyline and that maybe it hasn't been retconned. But ownership of the dragon is probably still out of the question. 65.50.59.30 00:51, April 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Added its appearances in "BELIEVE IN NEXUS" and "Close to you". --Blue (Talk) 01:04, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Just to finally shut people up and by people I mean trolls: It's not possible to argue with that. Anyone who would after looking at it is nothing more than a troll and a troublemaker. The proof can't even be close to denied at that quality. I'd almost go as far as to set these pages to only be edited by logged in accounts since it's only trolls really doing these fake changes anyway ("for the lulz" of course). ShinobiPhoenix 00:27, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Golden Gaia Dragon (Fifth Dragon) in Believe in Nexus - 720p) Screenshot
 * Golden Gaia Dragon (Fifth Dragon) in Close to You - 1080p) Screenshot


 * Do not give it a name, such as "Golden Gaia Dragon". There has been no confirmation that all 5 Dragons must be a different Attribute as well, so do not assume it to be Earth Attribute; Red Dragon Archfiend and Black-Winged Dragon are both Dark Attribute while both being a Signer Dragon. It's only applicable name is "Unknown Fifth Dragon". DemonGodAsura 04:17, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's nice for you, really, but let's pretend you have any control over people's statements in a CHAT-BASE ENVIRONMENT SHALL WE or pointless self-righteous dictation of people's thoughts have any place or control beyond someone's EPEEN. I'm not exactly declaring it the official name, I used the (so-called) "proper" name (which it actually STILL isn't, it too is just an accepted name and until there is an official name THERE IS NO PROPER NAME ANYWAY) with it for clarification, I took the screenshot myself and anything of the sort nor has anyone else who uses it.  Not to mention, rather than pretend people think on what "unlogic" you work on, how about you realize the name is formed simply from some basis of the facts.  On top of the fact that Power Tool (its clone, something everyone agrees on) is EARTH, let's not pretend that brown, darker brown and golden earthen colors suddenly equal WATER.  Not to mention when we DO learn its real name, we'll know all the other stats with it and the page will be changed to whatever that truth is, so there's not a thing to talk about now.  No one's trying to rename the article or make it into anything more than a nice fanname that has seen some spread usage or specifically, I'm not and I'll name my files whatever I feel like.  And before you even attempt to say this is out of place, remember that you came out of a topic about confirming a monsters existence and appearance in a video complaining about the name someone used with the image they posted to prove said existence.  Yes, totally on on-topic, totally called for, totally necessary.  ShinobiPhoenix 05:25, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it does look sortov scaly, it may well be WATER

6th signer?
This may be bit of a stretch, so sorry if I upset any of you with this post, but since it shows the fifth dragon in the beginning and end credits along with the others, do you guys think there could be a possibility that a sixth signer will appear with this dragon as its signer dragon? Although I myself doubt this because there really is no more birthmarks to give out lol. Just thought I would consider the possibility. Also, I was thinking about this too-If Pearson was still alive, would he have become a signer instead of Crow since he intitially had black-winged dragon?--68.231.164.136 19:49, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think your theory could be true. There always have, and always will be, 5 Signers. The number of Dragons, however, is more of an issue since there were also supposed to be 5 of them. Just have to wait for an explaination I guess.--71.80.67.80 15:40, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

it probobly wont happen that way. however. the dark signers had a total of 6 or 7 didnt they? so maybe if they can be literal godmodders like that who knows. but that arc long over so...Kazisaki 01:23, May 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Only two of them (Dark Signers) were extra person, Carly and Bomber. Other five were super ancient, Rex's bro, Devark, Yusei's friend, Aki's rival, and other. -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 20:38, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Move?
Since Black-Winged Dragon has been established as the 5th Signer Dragon, should we move this page to "Last Signer Dragon" or something like that? Or does being the 5th Signer Dragon revealed give this guy seniority over Black-Winged Dragon? --Blackstone Dresden 18:40, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I haven't heard many people call this anything other than "the fifth Dragon". I wouldn't call the article "Last Signer Dragon", since it was introduced before "Back-Winged Dragon" in terms of appearance and history in the show. This is still the fifth Dragon in terms of the ancient battle. "Black-Winged Dragon" we're led to believe is the present day fifth Dragon. If people are concerned about "fifth Dragon" also referring to "Black-Winged Dragon", we could add add a "this article refers to X, you may be looking for Y" type thing to the top of the page. Or less favourably, in my opinion, move it to "Original fifth Dragon" (yes, lowercase "f") and have "Fifth Dragon" as a disambiguation page pointing to the two. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:05, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * I definitely support that, I thought it should have been done in the first place. Blackfeather Dragon being a Signer Dragon doesn't take away from any potential "GGD" will have one they decide to work on his story again (which as we know by now, they must be).  While it might not be a Signer Dragon (unless they do the idea of splitting the wings between Jack and Crow and have Rua be the new tail), it still has some relevance and it would appease people just enough (even if it really doesn't matter what they think, since the story proper is the story proper).  ShinobiPhoenix 02:01, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

What ifs
What if the fifth dragon is actually the guardian of the signer dragons not one of the signer dragons that could be true and Black winged dragon just wasnt in the picture luna thought up--209.33.34.176 00:53, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * what if its the accel synchro form of blackfeather dragon--Bwinggale 20:55, April 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * oh yeah and to the guy twoposts ahead of me, sign you posts with 4 tiles please--Bwinggale 20:57, April 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * This page is for discussing changes to the article, not general discussion or theories. You can however visit the forums for such discussion. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:05, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Changing the Article from "Five Dragons" to "Signer Dragons"
Hey I was just wondering if it would be possible to change the dragons's page to match the other Signer Dragons since the dragons changed named ever since the introduction of Blackfeather Dragon. Wolfman of Light (talk • contribs) 13:10, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Have you a suggestion for the new page name? There's a section above on this. "Fifth Dragon" is probably a bad name now that as far as we know "Black-Winged Dragon" appeared before it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:48, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * How's about "Unknown (or unnamed) Signer Dragon"? Toob (Leave a message) 14:57, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Noooo nothing like that, its just that the article says "Five Dragons" throughout it when the other references to the Five Dragons have been changed to "Signer Dragons". Just to make it look like its part of the articles that already are there like Stardust Dragon and such.

Article title
It says Fifth Dragon, but...isn't it really the sixth dragon? So the sixth signer will come with the sixth sign and dragon. It sounds weird for the sixth signer to bring the fifth dragon. Also, I agree with the comment that the Fifth(Sixth) Dragon and Power Tool Dragon are the same. I mean, they have four wings each. Their left arm contains the 'spear/pointed' weapon and their facial structure is the same. Just look at http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Tool_Dragon and http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/File:Yugioh5Dending4.jpg --74.190.177.67 (talk) 20:39, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

like Fire Dragon?
remember in yugioh gx opening where it shows Bastion Misawa with Water Dragon and Fire Dragon, but only water dragon was released in the show and ocg/tcg. what if this is the same thing. it's just my theory. i mean we've still got 20 more episodes before yugioh zexal comes out. 70.79.82.181 (talk) 07:45, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

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