Forum:Honest/Shrink and Crush Card Virus/CyberJar

I need help understanding if the following two combos can work.

~1st:

Player A has Shrink set on the field and Honest in his hand. He has a Thunder King Rai-Oh in attack position. Player B has Gemini Elf in attack position.

Is there any way for Player A to gain the effects of both Shrink and Honest? If he used Honest to raise the attack of his Rai-Oh then shrink on Player B's monster, would he get only half the attack boost or would it be the full boost?

~2nd:

Player A has Crush Card Virus and Cyber Jar face down on his field. Player B has some normal monsters on his field.

Player A flip summons Cyber Jar and Chains Crush Card Virus to its effect. Is there a way to gain Cyber Jar's effect and activate Crush Card Virus also? Or is it that when you activate Crush Card Virus on Cyber Jar the monster isn't on the field and the effect doesn't activate?

Thanks in advance --GN7S00 06:53, March 27, 2010 (UTC)