Forum:Spellcaster Deck

I haven't played the game in a while (3+ years), but I'm starting to get back into it because my younger brother and my friends are starting to play it again. I am making this in the advanced format so that I can enter a local tournament as well. This deck is based around spellcasters, most notably the Dark Magician and Dark Magician of Chaos. I started with the Spellcaster's Judgment deck and modified so that it would work for advanced format tournaments. I want this deck to be able to swarm the field with spellcasters, especially the Dark Magician and Dark Magician of Chaos. I also posted my side deck. I took a look at the side decks and main decks of the top 16 duelists in the SJC tournaments and the 2008 National tournament to see which cards would best help me counter some of the metagame. I realize that Dark Magician decks aren't too popular considering he isn't that good of monster, but I also want to use one of my favorite monsters because I have more fun playing the game this way. Please help me make my deck competitive, any suggestions are appreciated (main deck, side deck, anything)! I would also like to incorporate Dark Paladin to my deck. I have 1 Dark Paladin and 2 Buster Bladers. If that's too much for now, just help me improve the deck without the Dark Paladin. Animedude3000 03:56, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Nice, I like it. However, Vampire Lord seems to be thrown in for no apparent reason, if you're incorporating Dark Paladin, you should replace him with Buster Blader, if not, replace it with a good Spellcaster, like Dark Magician Girl since you have three Dark Magicians'. Also, a Sorcerer of Dark Magic is nice top have, even though it's rather hard to summon. I don't see the need for 2 Dedication through Light and Darkness if you only have one Dark Magician of Chaos. Also, 3 of both Apprentice Magician and Magical Dimension are absolutely necessary. Some Crystal Seers' wouldn't hurt, but it's rather hard to find. If you're going to run Spell counter cards I suggest a Pitch-Black Power Stone or two. Also, I might take out some traps for some Magic cards, once again since you are using Spell Counter cards. Still, very nice. 70.243.8.196 05:15, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Yea Vampire Lord is out of place, I'll take a look through my cards to see what I can replace him with. I'll take him out and the 2nd Dedication through Light and Darkness. I was thinking about having a 3rd Magical Dimension, but you're right, it's pretty much a necessity for this deck. I'll add in the other 2 Apprentice magicians. I don't have any Crystal Seer's, but I'll find a friend I can trade with. If I took out a couple of trap cards for 2 Pitch-Black Power Stone's, which trap cards should I take out? Thanks for all the help so far. :) Animedude3000 06:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Take out Judgment of Anubis, it usually doesn't see many opportunities to trigger, and also a Reckless Greed, as at times it can leave you pretty helpless when run on its own. --Gadjiltron 10:00, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I've updated my deck to include 3 Apprentice Magician and 3 Magical Dimension. I took out Judgment of Anubis and Reckless Greed for 2 Pitch-Black Power Stone. I also took out the Vampire Lord. I have 44 cards now, but does that seem like too many? What would be the best way to incorporate the Dark Paladin? Should I put in 2 Polymerization's and 2 Buster Blader's and take out a couple of the lower leveled monsters? Thanks for all the help so far. Animedude3000 01:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't deck more then one Buster Blader, he isn't a Spellcaster and is really a dead draw if you can't fuse him right away.

You can deck as many Polymerizations as you want, but If you deck two there's the chance you draw it when you need something else, so I suggest one, but go with 2 if you want. 70.243.8.196 04:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok I tried using Buster Blader and Dark Paladin, but it made my deck much slower so I decided to not use them at all. I guess if I were going to make a Dark Paladin deck, I would've made it completely different. I'm thinking about adding my Injection Fairy Lily to my deck, but I'm not sure if 45 cards is too much. Should I add it in there, or should I replace a card in my deck with Injection Fairy Lily? If I do replace a card in my deck with IFL, which card should I replace? Another question, should I replace my Magic Cylinder with Mirror Force?Animedude3000 22:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

After much deck testing, I've decided to remove Blast Magician and Mei-Kou, Master of Barriers for 2 more Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer. Those cards didn't seem to help in most situations, whereas Kycoo's ability to remove monsters from play helps me against the Lightsworn decks I've played against (as well as other deck types). I've also replaced my Magic Cylinder for Mirror Force since it gives me better crowd control. What do you guys think of replacing Mythical Beast Cerberus with Injection Fairy Lily? I've also noticed that I've had too many trap cards so I am going to replace some of them with Shrink and Royal Decree to give me better field control. Also, while Chaos Command Magician has good attack for a 6 star monster, I feel as though his effect isn't too helpful. Is there another 5-6 star spellcaster (or any star monster) that would make my deck faster? Also, are 45 cards too many? Any suggestions are appreciated. Animedude3000 03:04, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

First a Comment:
 * Apprentice Magician's targets are very limited - only to 2 Old Vindictive Magician. If you are planning to run three Apprentices, then you should consider adding more low-leveled spellcasters, or don't run them at all.

Fixes:
 * +1 Diffusion Wave-Motion
 * -1 Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer: cutting down more minor cards. you have too many monsters.
 * -3 Apprentice Magician: you only have 2 targets for this card as said before.
 * -1 Mythical Beast Cerberus: not needed.

Hope that helps cutting down to 40 cards. Chris427 05:03, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

So wat about magician's circle? i would put at least 2 of them in. Romanovajax 14:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the recommendations. If I put in 2 Crystal Seers, should I still take out the Apprentice Magicians? I think I'm going to replace the 2 Royal Magical Library for the Crystal Seers. Which 2 traps should I replace with 2 Magician's Circles? Animedude3000 02:15, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Targets are still too few. In the case of replacing Royal Library for Crystal Seers, I agree. But you will have to remove 1 Apprentice Magician. The range is still too small. Chris427 06:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Keep the Apprentice Magicians, remove the Royal Magic Library's. Remove Seven Tools of the Bandit and a Magic Drain. SuperTeddy 06:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Advice

 * I actually made this deck so I can put it to the test, on most of the duels I had Both Dark Magician on the field so what I basically did was I removed the level 6 Spellcaster and add 1 Sorcerer of Dark Magic so I could have a little more trap control, I also removed one Pitch-Black Power Stone because it's a slow effect and since all ur counter cards gain a counter everytime a spell is activated why not replace it with a spell? so I removed that card as well along with Seven tools of the Bandit and I added the following:
 * Sorcerer of Dark Magic
 * Dark Magic Attack
 * Swords of Revealing Light

PS-I really got amased when I first tried this deck out I didn't expected the results which it gave me, good job seriousy ;)!. Rare Hunter28 14:26, 2 August 2008 (UTC)Rare Hunter28

Maybe you could remove all the traps except Torrential Tribute and Mirror Force and add 2 Royal Decrees. If you want, you can keep 1 Pitch-Black Power Stone. But the person above me is right, it is slow.

Thanks for helping me out! Pitch-Black Power Stone was a bit slow when I tried it out. I swapped out both for a Swords of Revealing Light and Dark Magic Attack. I'll try to get my hands on a Sorcerer of Dark Magic. I will keep in Chaos Command Magician and Seven Tools of the Bandit until I get him. Animedude3000 23:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

It's better to have 2 lvl6 or higher Spellcasters on the field then 1 Sorcerer of Dark Magic. Try Royal Decree, it will help a lot. SuperTeddy 08:06, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Chris, your forgetting that apprentice magician can target herself. this way there's about 5 targets. and as for chaos command magician, he is useful against a burner deck with effects that destroy monsters on ur field



He may be right
If u can't get ur hands on a Sorcerer of Dark Magic then u can also go with Royal Decree in which case u might need to eliminate a couple of traps.

I'll do some more deck testing, especially in the local tournaments to figure out whether or not I should keep in Sorcerer of Dark Magic. Thanks for the all the help so far everyone! Animedude3000 18:11, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Diffusion Wave-Motion is too situational, remove at least 1. Sorcerer of Dark Magic is not that great. And IFL is risky in this deck. I think 1 Old Vindinctive Magician is enough. Hope that helps. SuperTeddy 07:50, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I followed your suggestions and the deck is certainly faster now. I also had only 39 cards in my deck after following your suggestions so I put in Magical Marionette. Though I may replace him for either The Tricky or Maiden of Macabre. Or if there's a better card to replace him with, let me know. I'm very happy with my deck so far. :) Animedude3000 04:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

2 cards
Load your deck up spells, ( a lot of spells), grab Magical Explosion and add in Dark Eradicator Warlock

Remove Diffusion Wave-Motion, it's not hard to activate it but it's effect is not that great and it is possible a dead draw. Spell Economics combos with Dark Magic Curtain, but it slows the deck down too, so remove at least 1. If you can get it, Allure of Darkness could be added. SuperTeddy 10:24, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

O yeah, 3 Toon Table of Contents will support the Spell Counter Monsters and thin your deck. SuperTeddy 07:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Consider Dark Red Enchanter? --Tantara 16:28, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I made a proxy deck without any Diffusion Wave-Motions and put in 2 Allure of Darkness. That made my deck a lot faster. I tried putting in Dark Eradicator Warlock, but he's just been mostly Allure fodder so far. I'll keep testing it out with him. I need to get my hands on a Magical Explosion though, that was a good idea. I like the Dark Red Enchanter idea. I'll try him out with a proxy and see how it goes. If I like it, I'll try to trade for him this weekend. Thanks for all the help so far everyone! Animedude3000 16:36, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Now that the new ban/limited list will be effective tomorrow, what can I do to do this deck to keep it fast and strong? I already know DMoC is banned, so he and Dedication will be thrown out of the deck. Premture will also be taken out. Breaker the Magical Warrior will definitely be put into the deck. Any suggestions? I was thinking about putting in another Allure of Darkness if I can get my hands on another one. I'm also thinking about using the Silent Magician LV4 and Silent Magician LV8 into the deck as well (with Level Up!). Any suggestions/comments/criticisms are appreciated. Animedude3000 13:48, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * You might enjoy Miracle Restoring too, sweet card... --Tantara 03:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Trap cards
This deck sounds like it works pretty well, but by checking the cards list i have noticed it was low on traps.when it comes to counter traps i would add judgment of Anubis, and cursed seal of the forbidden spell, for spells like lightning vortex or Raigeki. and for traps i would include cards that block more than one attack to go with mirror force. cards like negate attack, or Waboku( since it can be activate anytime, even when its targeted for destruction). also to go with magic cylinder i would put at least one draining shield to help you regain Life points, and a Magicians circle to help reinforce your other monsters with some backup.

Hope this helps.