Forum:Enemy Controller

Me and my friend cannot agree. With Enemy Controller's second effect, can you tribute one of your opponent's monsters? Or does it have to be one of your own?


 * You have to tribute a monster on your side of the field. --Bluedog (Talk) 00:10, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Tribute (for monsters) is, by definition, a way of voluntarily sending a monster you control from the field to the Graveyard, for the cost or the effect of a card, or to perform a Summon. Your opponent's monsters are not under your control, so you can't Tribute them unless you have activated a card that specifically allows you to do so (Soul Exchange). If you gain control of an opponent's monster with no restrictions (i.e. with Brain Control), you can use that monster as a Tribute. --Darth Covah (Talk | Contribs) 00:26, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

That's what I've always said, now maybe they will believe me -.-''

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I have a Stardust and Jinzo on the field. I attack Fluff Token(opponent's monster) with my Jinzo then my opponent activates Emeny Controller's second effect, tributing its token and gain control of my Stardust, does a replay occur? Gomer123 (talk • contribs) 01:26, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Of course, since you lost the attack target without having your attack negated and the monsters on the defender's side of the field changed there will be a replay.Amadeus Von Blastoise (talk • contribs) 04:08, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

New question
My opponent used "Enemy Controller" to tribute his monster and taken my monster during Battle Phase, at the point he is attacking me directly (Spell Striker). Is that not true? -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 20:56, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

eh... I'm not sure what you are actually asking. Of course your opponent can attack you directly with spell striker, after that tribute him and take your monster (and attack with it if it is in attack position). -dest- (talk • contribs) 21:05, January 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * He declared an attack with Spell Striker.
 * I activated Red Nova's effect to remove himself to halt the attack
 * He activated his Enemy Controller, per to chain to Nova's remove effect, by tribute Spell Striker to take Nova into his control.

-- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 21:10, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

he can do that, but red nova would still be removed from play due to its effect and everything your opponent reached was loosing spell striker and enemy controller^^ -dest- (talk • contribs) 21:19, January 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks, I was just making sure since the real ruling in battle phase should have atk/def change or position switch. -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 21:21, January 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * He still refuse to believe that as the Target is removed from the field, which making the resolve failed. -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 21:38, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'm the one who did the move and this is how i got my reasoning. Red nova effect targets and during the resolve he removes himself. So i atk he targets me for the effect but i chain to the effect so my effect would go last meaning i would my monster would go for the cost and i would take his Nova. since nova lost his target it wont resolve meaning it stays around.

(Translated by FredCat, to help understand what he does mean.)


 * That is my opponent who post up there. -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 21:44, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, FredCat100 asked me to take a look at this problem. Please note that I am NOT a judge. I can ask a friend or two who are judges, however I do not have the power to make an official ruling.


 * Player A has Spell Striker (attack mode) and Player B has Red Nova Dragon (attack mode). Spell Striker attacks, Red Nova Dragon activates its ability, Enemy Controller is used tributing Spell Striker and targeting Red Nova Dragon.
 * By what I understand, Red Nova Dragon has its ability activate and then have both effects activate at the same time. Due to this, all effects that can activate must activate. This said, Red Nova must be removed from play and the attack is stopped, With Enemy Controller used, nothing changes. Red Nova Dragon would be Removed from Play and the attack (now no longer happening due to the monster leaving the field) would be negated if it still happened. The only thing I am unsure of is if the monster, Nova, is removed from play because it is on the opponent's side (Player A) of the field. I believe this is still true because the effect MUST take place because it was activated. I will check with my judge friend to find out more. If the Nova is removed from play, the origionl owner would be the one with the ability to Special Summon it. -- LordGeovanni - ( Talk To Me ) *Kupo* 21:57, January 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Understandable, and I only wish to know more prove. Thanks for your respond. -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 21:59, January 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * That user - 74.235.152.228 - ever backed this up with D.D. Crow vs. Monster Reborn. As of D.D. Crow being Enemy Controller and Monster Reborn being Red Nova. Is that really true? -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 22:05, January 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * He don't like to continue respond on here because of this comment;  (Which mean Dino, Dest and Geovanni are just dumb version in this site and he has this site back him up) and still deny that Red Nova Dragon can resolved like normal. --  F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 22:13, January 9, 2011 (UTC)