Talk:Number

Archetype name
According to the Japanese Kana(ナンバーズ), it should be 'Numbers'. However, 'No.' is the acronym of 'Number'. So, which one?Furuzuki (talk • contribs) 15:42, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

The archetype itself are Numbers, while each individual monster is a number, which explains why nobody uses "No." to describe them as a whole, and instead uses the full word...Or I could just be blowing smoke rings, but that's what it seems like to me. In the show, they refecence "Numbers" like it's some type of entity. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.A Wikia contirutor (talk • contribs) 15:59, May 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Try thinking "Tech Genus" in Japan, they changed into T.G. in America. Do same with this archetype. As well as poor Red-Eyes B. Dragon, the only 1 of trio had his name reduced to B. instead of full Black. (Other being Dark Magician and Blue-Eyes WHITE Dragon) Same thing with comic, they put "No. craps" at corner of the pretty picture. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:01, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

So, if we want to address a single monster from this archetype, should we call them 'Number' or 'Numbers' or 'No.'?Furuzuki (talk • contribs) 16:23, May 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Various would suit you well. I called "T.G." Tech Genus sometimes, ever through they were abbr. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  16:29, May 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, do the Jp say "Elemental Hero" or "E-Hero" as it's E-Hero on the cards, no?, so "It's a Number" or "It's one of the Numbers" looks to work,- Resk™ (Talk) 13:26, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

It's either way, really.--Jaden96 (talk • contribs) 15:09, May 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's a very good point. The cards say "E-Hero" and "No.", but characters in the anime clearly pronounce the names as "Elemental Hero" and "Numbers". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:03, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Volcasaurus
What is the meaning Volcasaurus ?

Utopia or No. 39 Aspiring Emperor Hope

Do you that Volcasaurus his rio. Guide, please ?

Number appearance
As I was watching 7 and 8, I had a thought about the Numbers; what if they change appearance based on their first user? For instance, Hope can represent Yuma's aspirations and hope of becoming a great duelist one day, giving him the form of a great hero. Revise Dragon can represent Shark's evil nature (his vice of stealing peoples' decks). Tera Byte can represent Ukyo's technological aspects in his plan and how it looks sort of like a bug, working with his Bugman deck (and being the perfect compliment to Super Bugman). Galaxy Queen took on the form of Fuya's mother, its possession of him similar to how his mother controls his life. Just my thoughts, what do you guys think? --DARK 02:31, June 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Possible, but let's not call anything yet, since Zexal's just started and we dunno if every-single-Number will involve its user's backstory. (If it's right, it says that Kaito has two Numbers, but believes the archetype as pure evil and hunts them down) MarxMayhem (talk • contribs) 03:40, June 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Didn't mean just add it in, but if the pattern continues, maybe we should. But either way, Tenjou wouldn't be a good example, since he probably takes the Numbers from people who have them (can't assume though, haven't been able to read the manga, which is where he's appeared so far). --DARK 03:55, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Volcasaurus and Unknown member  Number Location  Original Owner  Rank  Attribute  Type  ATK  DEF ? by 188.236.181.196 (talk • contribs) 11:20, May 17, 2011

Original Owner
Yuma Tsukumo does not have number. announced yuma tsukumo has number  39 original owner ?

Serial
Serial yu gi zeal does not appear he has number 39 left shoulder plate

???
Astral cannot own his own number, because he's searching for them, and Yuma got Utopia, because he's connected with Astral, if he wan'nt connected to him, he for sure have got it later. (Excuse me if i wrote wrong, I'm not from US).

Kaito Tenjo won those numbers (White Knight Eliminator and Ant Soil Brili-ant) from someone else, that means he's not their original owner.


 * There is no evidence that someome possessed them before him. That's why don't remove him. --178.223.172.235 (talk) 11:09, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

There is. In spoilers for Chapter 7, he is dueling against someone, who apparently is the original owner of Ant. I suggest to change Original Owner into Owners or Known Owners, and list everyone who had said card. Kuribohfan


 * Oh, crap. Only one needs to be listed. That column should list who Yuma and Astral obtained the card from. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:19, June 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Than there is a need to change "Original Owner", since it will be misleading. Kuribohfan

That image of numbers
...Am I the only one who thinks that image looks awesome? Though I wonder what an entire font of that would look like(provided, it existed) ---Tenga 23:08, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Source for Dix?
It was added by an unregistered user who never gave a source. Golden Key (talk • contribs) 21:05, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Sealed form
Why don't we upload images for the Sealed Forms instead of attempting to describe them? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:24, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree. It's stretching the table too much, but I do think we they need some mention in the article. Maybe a subsection detailing them and a gallery at the bottom, like the ones at Critias. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 09:11, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm thinking of something like this:


 * Similar to Mark_of_the_Dragon. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:10, July 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 09:09, July 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hello. I am YRPOtaku169. I am the one who originally put up the Sealed Forms category. I apologize for creating the lengthy descriptions, but I think your idea to simply use the image is so much better.

Trivia
"Xyz Monsters are said to come from an another dimension just like Astral, this probably explains why "Numbers" are Xyz Monster. Xyz Monsters are also said to be made of anti-matter, this probably hints the "Number's" future role in destroying all universes as Kaito Tenjo claims."

Is this mentioned in the anime or confirmed by some reliable source? --178.223.177.81 (talk) 14:16, July 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * According to Konami, all Xyz Monsters are made of antimatter, so this would extend to the Numbers. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 14:26, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Real number of Numbers
It seems there are 100 not 99, accroding to Kaito Tenjo from chapter 7 and episode 13. --Aged Goblin (talk • contribs) 21:54, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'm thinking it was a misunderstanding. There are 100, but Astral says 99 because he has 1 already, Hope. That makes the remaining amount of his scattered memories becomes 99. Order (talk • contribs) 10:07, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yea, "Number 39: Utopia" is what Astral still holding till he met Yuma. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  10:19, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Mistake Corrections
"As seen in episodes 10 and 13, a person possessed by a Number easily becomes addicted to their power and desires to obtain more Numbers." is wrong, it should be "As seen in episode 11... In episode 11 Rikuo and Kaio wanted to take Yuma's Numbers, and in episode 10 no new Numbers were shown.


 * Corrected. --Aged Goblin (talk • contribs) 15:42, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Based on episode 13 and 14, Dr. Faker appears to be the one that claims that Numbers will destroy all the universes, not Kaito, Kaito appears to hunt the Numbers only to heal Haruto. Also Dr. Faker might be lying to Kaito about the Numbers being the solution to heal Haruto.

Influence on holders
We've seen that the Numbers' powers kind of drive their owners mad and make them do things they wouldn't normally, and have them search for more Numbers. As it drives them mad, and Jin has at least 3 Numbers expected, the most of all people who are not immune to them, could it be it drives them completely nuts? Maybe a mention in the article.


 * Jin described the Numbers as (if i remember correctly) "Wicked beast that consume their holder's hearts and take away their souls". That should be added in the abilities or story section.

Other
Utopia Ray shoud be noted in trivia or be included in different location!!! Also I suggest to not upload number monsters that aren;t yed appeared in the anime... I will wait for a reply Omojuze*


 * How Hope Ray fits in here isn't yet known. Numbers aren't an archetype, despite how we classify them. They have no support cards, so including Hope Ray won't be a problem. And any confirmed Numbers should be listed. Monsters confirmed for release in the OCG or that appear in the manga should not be excluded. This page is for all info pertaining to Numbers, not just in-universe anime info. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:38, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't we at least change the page to say that there are 101 Numbers now or that there are two 39s or something along those lines? --Blackstone Dresden (talk • contribs) 19:45, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Xyz Energy
Why isn't Xyz Energy part of the Numbers? The image has Utopia on it and so does Utopian Aura. Leviathan Dragon is on Xyz Veil and that's part of the archetype. so why isn't the Spell Xyz Energy part of the archetype?


 * I don't think its picture has anything to do with "Numbers" not sure. May by "Dinoguy1000", "Fredcat100", "..." knows.-- 22:02, August 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * It appears to have "Archrelate1" with Number included, but just glitch to not show up in the navibox... D-Neos or his machine technology buddies would know what to do. As I had some discuss with him about box issues in the past. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:04, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

True, but with a one-time combo of xyz veil and xyz energy that i just thought up of (depending on the xyz material) would make a number lesser or more indestructible.