Talk:Number 17: Leviathan Dragon

Type
Are you guys sure this card's Type is Dragon? Is there any proof to that, aside from its name? Its name cannot be a proof, because Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier and Aqua Dragon says hi. Order (talk • contribs) 15:14, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * It is a Dragon-type monster. Check the Japanese name in the card and on the Dragon page. The characters are the same. --NejiHyuga900 (talk | contributions) "I am the Thunder Dragon!" 23:50, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Your reply is too late actually, I asked it during February, when the only pic we have is the manga pic :p But that's okay Order (talk • contribs) 14:36, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Name
You missed the "No. 17" ... I've edited it :)) Gotikaster 22:15, February 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why is there a comma after the "No. 17"? That's not present in the Japanese name. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:24, February 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * In Shriek's website appears with a comma Gotikaster 22:26, February 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see that, but why are Shriek adding the comma? They've also listed the Japanese name with no comma. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:30, February 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * What is with the numbers? Fryhop (talk • contribs) 22:13, February 18, 2011 (UTC


 * Something to do with an entity called "Numbers". That's who possesses Ryoga. As ZEXAL progresses, we'll know more. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:09, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

It was always Leviath, even in the OCG.
リバイス = Ribaisu; L = R; Ribaisu = Libaisu; S = TH; Libaisu = Libaithu; B = V; Libaithu = Livaithu; Vowels at the end can be ignored; Livaithu = Livaith; Livaith sounds like Leviath, so it's not a name change, they're just correcting the fan interpretation.

So it was always Leviath. Revise was an incrrect translation and we should be ashamed of ourselves. Burnpsy (talk • contribs) 21:27, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Where are the proof that you get the translation? I see no links from the site, no evidence that it's not Revise. So if you don't have any proof, then stop doing this foolish thing! -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:28, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * I send that right back at you. Do YOU have proof that the fan translation was correct? The Japanese represent TH with an S all the time. The mix-up for L and R is infamous. The thing with V was incorporated into the interpretation as "Revise" as well. Burnpsy (talk • contribs) 21:32, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * L and R theory was already confirmed on twin part, they got L out of those things. Revise Dragon is NOT, I repeat that, NOT a fan translation, it's directly from SHRIEK OCG SITE! GO THERE AND READ THAT SITE BY YOURSELF! -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:36, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Shriek is not an official source. Burnpsy (talk • contribs) 21:39, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, Shriek - twoday is an official source. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:41, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Um, it's not. Shriek only does translations from V-Jump Magazine, so the official source are V-Jump Magazines --DirgtheDarkMonarch (talk • contribs) 21:45, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry? Are you official stupidity? shriek.twoday.net is an official site that we always using to update this site. Revise Dragon's original name STAY. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's not an official site. It's run by people who are kind enough to provide translations of cards. They're NOT affilated with Konami, so they're not "official" --DirgtheDarkMonarch (talk • contribs) 21:49, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Then you're an idiot. Deltaneos considered shriek.twoday official, Yami-Wheeler considered too. Therefore I considered it as official site. It had helping us get all pictures and names as well as lores update so far. Without it, this site broken and dead for good. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:51, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * The fact that you use it does not make it OFFICIAL. It would be official only if Konami approved it, which didn't happen yet.

Besides, there's always Manjyome for news. Argument invalid. --DirgtheDarkMonarch (talk • contribs) 21:52, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Manjyome take all information from Shriek, therefore making shriek.twoday official source, you lost. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  21:53, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, so why do you think Shriek is "official"? Because you use it? If so, I can call my grocery shop an "official grocery shop of town X" because I go there? --DirgtheDarkMonarch (talk • contribs) 21:55, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Fine, if you considered them unofficial, then why not going on the thousand and thousand of articles that HAD shriek's translation names and remove them off yourself? I doubt you could make it in 3 days within a worth of edits. We used Shriek/Manjyome translation just because they got a good information and etc. that we can use to help all America voicing people understand what other languages' translates have told. So if you have no more objection, then sit down and cool your sweat heads already! If it's Revise, then it's Revise. End of story, you cannot make it "Leviath" yadda yadda! -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:01, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Note that the topic right above us pointed out an error on Shriek. Reliability =/= impossible to make errors. Also, the fact that the name was written in Katakana means that it's particularly hard to get the right name from it. The official TCG name being Revise makes it clear that of the tens of ways to interpret that Katakana, the correct way is Leviath. Therefore, the name was Leviath in the OCG as well. Burnpsy (talk • contribs) 22:06, May 18, 2011 (UTC)