Talk:Black-Winged Dragon

Deletion
THIS PAGE SHOULDN'T BE DELETED!!!!!! After all it is confirmed, any Modo assalto says it's because we know nothing about it's Level, ATK, DEF etc! WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS AND KOA'KI MEIRU MAXIMUS EXCEPT THAT THEY'RE BOTH DRAGONS, BUT KOA'KI MEIRU MAXIMUS ISN'T BEING CONSIDERED FOR DELETION!!!!!!!!!!!--AARONmeister 08:27, October 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete it.


 * Not that I disagree or agree, but you must give the reasons why you think it should be deleted. This is a discusson, not a vote.
 * AARONmeister, please don't shout. If you have an argument, we'll listen to it. Yelling at people isn't going to influence them (at least not in a positive way). "Koa'ki Meiru Maximus" being similiar to this case alone is not a reason to keep this page. It more likely means the "Koa'ki Meiru Maximus" page should be considered for deleted for the same reason. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:47, October 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well sorry but I made this page as I saw it wasn't already made, and now this? --AARONmeister 18:00, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Personally, I think that there should at least be an article of what we've learned about this card so far, such as whether it is manga-only or not. I am most curious of how, where, when, and who confirmed this card's existence. Is it the Fifth Dragon? Even if this card isn't real yet, there should be something to know about this card.--Dragonking 16:53, October 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Dragonking, it's mentioned as the cover card for a new pack called "The Shining Darkness", which we don't even have an image of. That is all we know. Dmaster (Talk • Contribs • Count) 17:00, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

If this card is confirmed as being the cover card for The Shining Darkness, it deserves an article. Remember back before Savior Demon Dragon came out, there was this same debate. If a card exists, even if the only thing confirmed about it is its name and the fact that it exists, it deserves an article. --Blackstone Dresden 23:58, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I think the page should be kept, but protected until we have all the details. That way, less crap gets added. And if any new info comes around, it can just be posted on this talk page. --Bluedog (Talk) 02:03, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

This page has not yet been created and needs the infomation first. There is no point of getting rid of it and then making it again 2 weeks later.


 * Yah! I mean seriously, Crow is the 5th signer and it would make perfect sense that it is a Black Feather, which is what the Blackwings are called in Japan. Do not delete this page!

I say keep it. It'll be much less of a hassle to remake this with the confirmed info when it's released. Also, there are less red links. Toob 11:03, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Dont delete this page yet, there is no way of confering or dispiting the authenticity of this card or pack yet except a rumor, but isnt that how all ocg info reaches us? a rumor that gets confirmed as later days go by and more info becomes available. besides let it stay up it will provide more stuff for us all to talk about, like Absolute Powerforce theres a lot to talk about but little information to even be sure about.--Kazisaki 21:55, October 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * It's not being considered for deletion because it's a rumour. This card is confirmed to be real. It's being considered for deletion, because we don't have any info on it apart form its name and the set it's released in. If it was just a rumour, it would probably be deleted on sight. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:19, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

I don't think this should be deleted b/c it's confirmed and it should stay an official page in Wikia. But it needs to be updated when the dragon shows up in the anime and/or when valid ATK/DEF is shown/revealed.

Blackwing Dragon
Can't we assume that this card will be dubbed Blackwing Dragon, as Blackwings are called Black Feathers in OCG? B.F. Dragon/Blackwing Dragon... it just makes sense. -TehPurpleOne Talk 21:55, November 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * No, "Blackwing" monsters all have " ＢＦ(ブラックフェザー) " (Black Feather) in their Japanese names. This card spells "Black Feather" "ブラックフェザー", so it is not eligible for "Blackwing" support cards in the Japanese version. If we named it "Blackwing Dragon" that would make it eligible for "Blackwing" support cards. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:21, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Blackfeather Dragon

 * It is true that Crow Hogan is the 5th signer, but I am not 100% sure that Blackfeather Dragon is the 5th dragon. What bugs me is that when we saw the 5 Dragons, the one that has yet to be put into card form is mostly gold and resembles an insect (mostly because its wings resembles that of an insect and it's scales or body armor resembles an insect's exosceleton). These facts about it make me question it's the 5th Dragon we've seen before because it has little to no black on it nor does it have any feathers. But I could be wrong and it could be the 5th dragon, I don't mind either way.--RyuPhalian 22:28, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * We won't know for sure until we actually see what BFD (BWD) looks like~MEOW~ Might of the BIRD Empire 18:56, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * I love how you felt the need to put the BWD in brackets, even though it's pretty much confirmed it won't be Blackwing Dragon.
 * Well, that would be because, knowing how fubar the name changes can become when going from OCG Name to TCG Name, i felt it necessary to include "BWD" in "[]"Altyrell 05:56, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Regardless of how drastic the name changes are when they're translated, they aren't allowed to affect GAME MECHANICS. Blackfeather Dragon doesn't gain support from BF support cards, yet if they named it Blackwing Dragon, it WOULD gain support from those cards, causing a big divide between the OCG and TCG rules. It's not going to happen. Stop being a busybody.
 * It's the old form of Power Tool Dragon before it was killed by the Immortals
 * Do you have proof that this is the old form of PTD, or that it is even remotely related to PTD in any way, shape or form?Altyrell 05:55, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Blackwinged Dragon?
What if we're wrong, what if it is the Fifth Dragon and it's actually called Blackwinged Dragon? What if the first guy translated it wrong and called it Blackwing Dragon and we corrected it with Blackfeather. Do we know what it looks like or know 100% it's OCG name? Of course I am just guessing, but I really want to know what this card looks like, and see the Fifth Dragon's card... --Azure Knight-Zeo 19:20, December 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * If it is the fifth Dragon, then we're not wrong, because we're not saying that it isn't, nor are we saying that is. We don't know at this point. If it's confirmed that it is, then we'll change this page and the Five Dragons page to reflect that.
 * I'm not sure what you're getting at about its name. It's officially been confirmed that its Japanese name is "ブラックフェザー・ドラゴン", which means "Black Feather Dragon" or "Blackfeather Dragon". All the "Blackwing" monsters Japanese names' have "Black Feather" in them too, but spell it " ＢＦ(ブラックフェザー) ", so this card's English name will not have "Blackwing" in it. If it did cards like "Against the Wind" would work on it in the English version, but not the Japanese version. The name that you mentioned "Blackwinged Dragon" would still make it a "Blackwing" monster.
 * If it turns out that "ブラックフェザー・ドラゴン" is not the correct Japanese name, the mistake came from official sources, so we can't be blamed and will correct it if it is proven otherwise. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:49, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * I remember it was mentioned in the show? Have to check
 * Even without BF in the name, it could still be related to the Blackwing/Blackfeather monsters while being a Dragon. Unfortunately, we'll just have to wait and see...

Color
guys i have noticed that in each pack there is a background(The Duelist Genesis = stars and green colour), which fits with the cover card. If you see closely, behind the name is a bright blue like ice.I don't think that gold would match with that.--Skroutz26 19:17,January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * The color scheme is always like that for the packs, Green, Yellow, Red, Orange, Blue, Purple, Black, then White, since Soul of the Duelist.--Tapper930 17:18, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

GRRRRRRRRRR
i wish they would show the picture already!!!!Hairball420 00:25, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

calm down no sense in being impatient, right now their building hype for the new set--Blackwing-John 00:52, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

i mean if its true that this is the 5th dragon then we've already seen it ya know? and im not the only one that feels that way....its just maddening ya knowHairball420 00:54, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is still unknown if this is going to even be the 5th DragonAltyrell 01:47, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Everyone is just going to have to be patient

 * Seriously the shining darkness is rumored to come out in febuary at least if anything by febuary 20th there will be information on the pack and the card everyone can wait 1 more month right--EMPSBladeKnight60 06:13, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

AT LAST
At last that "Crashtown" plot will be finished and in Episode 94 the Blackfeather Dragon will make an appearance--Skroutz26 17:38, January 9, 2010(UTC)

First, i changed it so it didn't seem like you were shouting. 2nd there is still NO Proof that BFD is the 5th Dragon.Altyrell 15:47, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Fifth Dragon
The image has been revealed. This is not the fifth dragon. --AARONmeister 18:24, January 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * It is not the 5th dragon,a good reasoning for this would be that no other dragon is a decendent of a spacific archtype,so why start now with this Blackwings,plus its attribute is dark and that is already tooken through Red Archfiend Dragon,this Black wing Dragon is probably a push for Blackwing users since Blackwings have grown in popularity,and even though it has a universal effect and not one that is bound to Blackwings and is a Dragon type,I still doubt it is the 5th dragon,now on a personal note from a fellow Blackwing player,I don't really see a direct need to include either one of the 4 new Blackwing monsters, maybe besides Blackwing - Gust the Adverse Wind,and p.s the blackfeather dragon isn't that great. :) The Sushi Samurai 74.15.147.184 19:45, January 14, 2010 (UTC)