Forum:Original ATK/DEF

According to that page "gaining" (or losing) ATK will reapplied to the monsters ATK after applying the effect "Shrink"/"Megamorph" as it happened with "Card Trooper". Its original ATK (400) first halved (200) and then the "gained" ATK (1500) is reapplied to the new original ATK (1700 total).

1) From that time I thought that after "Shrink"s ATK halving, all gain/loses are reapplied since I read "Exarion Universe" rulings. As it says If "Exarion Universe" is targeted by "Shrink", its ATK will become half of its original ATK, even if its effect to reduce its own ATK by 400 has been used. Why is that happening and he "loses" his lost 400 ATK instead of reapplying the -400 ATK after "Shrink"s halving effect resolution?

2) Also another question about "Phantom of Chaos"s "gaining ATK. I read that page and I lost my brain. "Curtis" says that "Phantom of Chaos"s "gained" ATK is treated as its original ATK. "Phantom of Chaos"s true original ATK is 0, and according to "Curtis" its effect "gaining" ATK is like increasing it printed original ATK (0) and creates a new (0 + selected monster's ATK = selected monster's ATK). If that's true, and all "gaining" ATK from an effect changes the original ATK of a monster, then "Card Trooper"s original ATK, after applying its effect, should be 1900 and with the effect of "Shrink" should go to 950 (1900 / 2). But according to the first page this is wrong. Now if both pages are right, then there must be a difference in "Card Trooper" gaining effect and "Phantom of Chaos"s gaining effect. OR may "Curtis" be wrong to 1 page (I don't think of that). If "Curtis is right then where's that difference?

I hope you understand my questions. Thanks! ATEMVEGETA 20:09, 11 December 2008 (UTC)