User talk:LordGeovanni/Archive001

'THIS PAGE IS AN ARCHIVE AND WILL NO LONGER BE UPDATED! PLEASE GO TO MY TALK PAGE TO LEAVE ANY MESSAGES.'

This page includes the first 25 Topics discussed on my Talk page from December 19th 2009 through April 28th 2010.

-- LordGeovanni - ( Talk To Me ) *Kupo* 15:39, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Molting Escape tip
Many players are familiar with Suicideing their monsters. Ramming your monster into a stronger opponent's monster in order to gain an advantage is something anyone can figure out, especially since that tip you said was used in the anime, where anyone can see it.PoirotH 05:44, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Regardless if 100's of people know, any one person may not know and it is for that person I place this tip. In addition, the idea that the card works once per turn allows you to increase its attack but most people wouldn't think of raising its attack on their own turn. just like how many people forget that nitro warrior can increase its attack by you using a quick play spell on your opponent's turn. Just because YOU know it already doesn't mean that everyone knows.

Please... your tip is so obvious a beginner can figure it out. Also, your concept about Nitro Warrior is wrong. In its lore it says "Once during each of YOUR turns", meaning there's no way it can apply during your turn.PoirotH 06:31, December 18, 2009 (UTC) --002517 08:00, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Looking up my personal Nitro Warrior I found it the way I stated. Looking up Nitro Warrior shows your answer. With this, I will say that you would be right, however I do have a good reason for being wrong with this due to my errored card. Aside my small mistake, the "obvious tip" you are claiming is still a tip that not everyone may notice upon first glance and should be mentioned. If this is unacceptable, then PLEASE dedicate yourself to looking up EVERY page with "this card can be pulled out with sangan, ect." because every single one is OBVIOUS and it would be much easier for everyone if you were better occupied with something that doesn't stand in the way of people assisting others just because we want to. --LordGeovanni 06:47, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

RE:Nitro Warrior tip

 * Look, as much as I "adore" talking with you about your additions, and go in a constant addition-removal war like some sort of chaotic ping-pong match, I did not make those edits or put up the protection because of some grudge against you. I suggest that before you add something like that, you should first make sure from other sources, preferably more official, that you have something to back up your claim aside from your obstinate opinion. I suggest you take it to another user: Deus Ex Machina. Users in this wiki usually go to him with questions about gameplay such as yours. Now, I'm going to take off the protection from Nitro Warrior, but do not put up that tip again until you've talked to that person I mentioned and settled it.PoirotH 18:29, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Card Tips:Power Tool Dragon
No, I don't think the strikethrough was necessary.PoirotH 19:32, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

I assure you, I completely understood what you meant, and I agree that the tip can be still be applied in the game and that there are substitutes for the now obsolete Butterfly Dagger-Elma, nut I consider the strikethrough to be more of an eyesore.PoirotH 06:03, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

At this point, since you made a valid tip, it would be unnecessary to keep the errored one. If any other user would want to add another card that they think might be useful, they would have to follow your tip.PoirotH 20:01, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Big Wave Small Wave
I get what your point was - you can use your opponent's monsters as long as you control them. But it's glaringly obvious, and really doesn't need to be put there. You might as well say this on the Giant Rat page: "You can use this card to special summon EARTH monsters with 1500 or less ATK from your deck when it is destroyed by battle." Runer5h 00:38, January 1, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h

Understood.
Don't worry, that "Confusion Chaff" argument is settled now. Yeah, now I understand how this card works. It should be more clear on its lore though (It should say something like: "Redirect the attack..." or even "Negate the attack of the opposing monster and then conduct battle with the first attacking monster and the second attacking monster."). --002517 08:00, January 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help LordGeovanni. By the way, I've edited and placed my 4 tildes and signature. --002517 08:02, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Pharonic Guardian List
for this exists: Set_Card_Lists:Pharaonic_Guardian_(TCG-EN) and the other, it does not should be on the main page --hanmac 11:04, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * the list is corect, put this in the style of Set_Card_Lists:Pharaonic_Guardian_(TCG-EN) there -> Set_Card_Lists:Pharaonic_Guardian_(OCG-JP) --hanmac 11:10, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure you don't need my help for the "flip itself face-down" problem?PoirotH 11:45, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

I can't help you about the part about finding other monsters that flip themselves face-down. But at least you know what to do if you find them. As for the part about your edit on Pharaonic Guardian, PH is the symbol on the cards from the OCG, being replaced with PGD in the OCG. If you look at the articles of every card in the set, more specifically the part where it says about their OCG sets, you'll see that they all correspond to the order in which the are shown in Pharaonic Guardian. So the symbol and the order you see now in the article is the one taken from the OCG list, rather than the TCG list.PoirotH 12:49, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

You be the judge.
Hi, this is 002517. I wanted a vote and opinion on my different decks, and which one you think is the best. I have the deck lists on my Talk Page, and the Voting Poll on my User Page. Have a look around and see what you think. Thanks. --002517 02:00, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Actually...
That tip with Kinka-byo, Future Visions and Light does work. Visions does not remove light as you said, but the intention of whoever put that tip there was for Kinka-byo to remove light with it's effect when it's removed from the field. But because it's in the Tips page for Kinka-byo, deleting it was right since it hurts Kinka-byo, as you said. Falzar FZ 12:23, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Overoncloud9 21:14, March 10, 2010 (UTC)thanks for standing up for me on my article. too bad it still got canned

Power Tool Dragon
Hey there,

Thanks for the note in your revert for the abovenamed card. My personal opinion is that listing the same tip twice is definitely redundant. I did delete the latter tip, but that one was more detailed. I think we could simply combine the two tips that discuss Archfiend of Gilfer to make the Tips page look cleaner and less dense while still retaining the core content.

I don't mind reverting, but I think there is definitely room to simplify what is currently (in this case) a very dense page.

Sincerely,

Gerhardified 14:26, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Hello and a message.
Hi!

Sorry, but deck construction isn't my speciality, so I'm not sure what would be best. You might want to try making a thread in Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki Discussion, since that would probably get more people's attentions. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 05:22, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm not good with this stuff either! As Machina said, Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki Discussion should be the best place to ask that kind of questions! ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 12:11, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Hello and a message..
No need for introductions since we've met before, but I still commend your polite approach. As for your idea, I don't see any downside to it, so feel free to do this to other pages if the need arises. My only advice is to keep it objective-no personal opinions.PoirotH 12:23, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

RE A question for you
The main reasons that I take out the links of the pages, are the very ones you gave me. It is unnecesary to have the links on the page that you are already on. If you just saw a link to a certain card, you don't need to link to the page. Another reason, is that the more you have on that page, the longer it takes to load it up, so you might have to wait five minutes on some computers just to load up the tips page of Theinen. The fact that you might have to look back will take you very little time, as all you have to do is look for a link in blue, and then click on it. If the page is long, like a character bio, I leave it alone, and don't change the links. Mainly, it's just for the Tips/Appearences/Trivia pages.

RE A question for you
The main reasons that I take out the links of the pages, are the very ones you gave me. It is unnecesary to have the links on the page that you are already on. If you just saw a link to a certain card, you don't need to link to the page. Another reason, is that the more you have on that page, the longer it takes to load it up, so you might have to wait five minutes on some computers just to load up the tips page of Theinen. The fact that you might have to look back will take you very little time, as all you have to do is look for a link in blue, and then click on it. If the page is long, like a character bio, I leave it alone, and don't change the links. Mainly, it's just for the Tips/Appearences/Trivia pages.--Tapper930 14:36, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Speeling
I see. Sorry about that. What about when you misspelled "grammar" in your last message? -- Deltaneos (talk) 03:49, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Hello, I have a question on wikia cursing penalties
Sorry, I didn't notice your message about cursing when you first left it. Can you show me one of the forums where this has happened? -- Deltaneos (talk) 10:54, March 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Whether it's censored or not, if it's intened as a personal attack, it's not acceptable. Bad language that's not attacking anyone is unnecessary, but isn't too harmful.
 * I suppose the best way to get FredCat to stop is to ask him nicely. It seems like it's easy for him to get stressed by difficult users, but he is here to help the site. If he's told that he's doing something wrong, I'm sure he'll stop. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:51, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Er, are you referring to me? --FredCat100 20:41, March 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright, I was not pissing off, just wish for them to learn right way instead of ask the questions out of nowhere without read the rulings first. --FredCat100 20:21, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Aliens
--Blue (Talk) 02:50, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) The reason I removed the descriptions of cards (Such as this: "(LVL1, LIGHT-Attribute, Tuner, Can Special Summon a one LVL 4 or lower "Alien" monster upon Normal Summon - destroyed upon End Phase)") was because they weren't explaining reasons for choosing the cards, they were just re-stating the cards' effect(s).
 * 2) I removed Staples/Aliens because there's already a list of Alien monsters at the bottom of the page. This has been done with pretty much all of the other Archetype pages.
 * I still don't really get why cards from the archtype are being removed. It doesn't really matter if it's already in the bottom box. It's there to say which are the good cards from the Archtype, the cards that people actually use a lot; and if it's not on the list, then they are Optional and cr... not so good cards that people shouldn't use from that archtype. Falzar FZ 03:26, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, you know, I'm not an unreasonable person (Which is why I didn't undo your edits to the Alien page). I was actually hoping to reach a compromise, something similar to what FalzarFZ said above. But seeing as how you're more interested in childish insults than an actual discussion... Compromise doesn't sound very likely, does it? =/ --Blue (Talk) 07:10, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Haha, much better. Anyway: --Blue (Talk) 07:33, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) The lists were far from "neat", as I saw them. Too much clutter. I understand why you would keep the attributes, but is it really necessary to include every little detail about a card when you could just as easily say: "Card Name/Attribute"? If a person's willing to spend time looking up Alien Deck strategies and whatnot, I doubt clicking a link will be that much more time consuming. Besides, you didn't have "reasons" for choosing cards on that page. For the most part, I just saw condensed versions of the cards' effects.
 * 2) Like I said before, I don't mind if some cards from the Archetype are kept (Since a lot of Alien decks seem to use Ammonite, Dog, etc.) but I don't see the point in listing every single card from the Archetype when there's a list of them at the bottom. As I see it, the more useful/notable cards should be listed under the "Recommended" section and the rest can be seen at the bottom if a reader is that interested in support cards for the Archetype. Saying that you wouldn't recommend a card but others have is a horrible reason for including the entire Archetype under the "Recommended" list. By that logic, I could add Skull Servant to the list and say I might not agree with it but someone else might.


 * With some cards, it is necessary to leave a small explanation of what it does and why it would be used. But wouldn't it be much neater and more efficient to include that sort of information in the "Play Style" section? A list of recommended cards is, after all, just a list. You could just include extra information in another section. This accomplishes the first purpose and makes the page look much, much neater. Second, your entire argument for keeping that stuff on the list was that you needed it. You had trouble opening 15 tabs (Then again, almost all browsers do), you couldn't be bothered to write something down, you assume that you are always right and that there is no room for compromise, you seem to think that the Deck pages are your personal space for including tips, when they're only meant to document notable facts about decks. A Wikia is an encyclopedia of sorts, not a forum for giving advice (We have forums for that anyway). Based on this, answer me this question: How many Alien decks can you find that use Alien Skull (And other not so "good" cards like it) and provide a source for? And sorry for the late reply, it was 1am when you sent that, so I had to go to bed. xD --Blue (Talk) 17:42, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Fairy Archer
Sorry, I thought that you were placing the wording so that it would appear on the tips page. If you want more protection on it, you could ask an admin to put a block on it.

Problem?
What's a matter with you and Ancient dude? --FredCat100 16:06, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Then ask Admin to put block on that page so that dude won't be able to change at his willing. --FredCat100 18:02, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have only know three, beside Blue, Deus Ex Machina, Deltaneos, both are the one who have helped me get through the messes in past. --FredCat100 19:15, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Seriously, stop.
Stop reverting my edits to the "Alien" Page. Your version is a ugly wall of text that doesn't explain anything. My version is smaller, but more helpful. --Reimu_H, Touhou fanboy 19:05, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Explain to me how i'm "vandalizing". --Reimu_H, Touhou fanboy 19:07, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Aliens
Can you stop being a busybody? There's no reason for you to separate the effects into different categories. Only 2 monsters have effects that are different to the standard A-Counter effects, and no other page lists all of the stats of cards that you should use in the decks. Why do you believe Aliens are so special that they deserve to have a different page layout?

You just scream vandalism rather than arguing your case like a normal person. Instead of crying, and going to mods like a b***h, why don't you explain why you feel your edits are worth being put on the page?--YamiWheeler 19:13, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Please help me with a problem
It's not vandalism if the person doing it thinks that it is right. Please use the article talk pages to discuss the two versions and see which the rest of the community prefer. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:14, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

You know what?
Whatever. Keep your horrible page. I don't care anymore. This is ****ing lolwikia, after all. --Reimu_H, Touhou fanboy 19:15, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Feel better?
Are you feeling better now, friend? --FredCat100 19:27, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * He's just being ass... But at least you won the page. --FredCat100 19:31, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * I know, but I don't referring to Yami, I am referring to your battle again Reimu as you won the page from him. So thanks for your congratulation. --FredCat100 19:49, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

So now you're aware of how to argue with new opponent on your own. ^_^ --FredCat100 19:56, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's to help prove what those cards doing right. --FredCat100 20:13, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * He didn't win. I just got lazy. --Reimu_H, Touhou fanboy 20:21, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Alien, Locked
If you were discussing it on the Talk Page, then keep it on the Talk Page. Don't modify the main page - even if it's to undo their edits - until you sort it out. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 21:03, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

You're so...
...right, that was funny being argue with them. ^_^ --FredCat100 21:24, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

And didn't you see that I made funny of their name and "love" stuff... --FredCat100 21:28, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think that's little funny? --FredCat100 21:35, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Therefore they are true lover to each other XD --FredCat100 21:41, April 28, 2010 (UTC)