Talk:Xyz Summon

Are we sure about the summoning requirement?
Are we sure that the Excess Monster needs to have a level equal to the combined level of the materials? The problem here is that, since the materials have to have the same level, that pretty much eliminates any Excess Monster having an odd-numbered level (unless they make half-levels, which seems really stupid and impractical to me, since they've already established that there will never be any fractions of LP, ATK/DEF or Level in the games). Plus, it makes the summoning requirement way too similar to Rituals and especially Synchros. 66.228.109.2 (talk) 00:27, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

It's 2 or more monsters. We just can't have Level 1s. 3s'll also be tough to summon, I'd guess.A Wikia contirutor (talk • contribs) 21:47, December 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's not what I'm asking; I know that Excess monsters require two material monsters to summon, but people are saying that the total levels of the materials have to match the level of the Excess Monster, when there isn't any rulings given to support that. Also, since it's also said that the level of the materials also have to be the same as each other, that means that you could only have even-numbered leveled monsters, since there is no way in heck they're going to bring out half-levels (there is no number in the world that can be multiplied by 2 and get an odd number, so any Excess monster following these rules would need to be a level 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, or 12, which is utterly stupid, in my opinion). Hell, they wouldn't even let negative levels fly, force-converting the Dark Synchros into normal Synchros. So, are we absolutely sure that the Excess monster has to have a level equal to the combined level of its materials? 66.228.109.2 (talk) 23:25, December 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * No, we're not sure of anything yet. For all we know it could be totally different. I was just saying that the original description was "2 or more". That means that you could use 3 monsters if you wanted. For example, 3 level 1s equals a level 3, or 3 level 3s equals a level 9. level 5 could even be done if there are 5 level 1s (I don't know about 7 thou). Anyways, I was just saying that it is not impossible to create odd-leveled monsters using the given ruling. You're proboly right, we won't know how to summon then until they give us the actual rules and first Excess Monster cards, but until then we're free to speculate based on the knowledge given to us. With enough bits and pieces we'll eventually get it right. Only the future will show what the new mechanic will yield. A Wikia contirutor (talk • contribs) 23:56, December 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just thinking of those as Synchro Monsters, only different is that you don't need "Tuner" completely. I know it's very tricky, yet easily. -- F  red  C  at  Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 00:05, December 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * If it's that similar to Synchro Summons, then why does it exist, in the first place? Why not continue the Synchro craze? There's got to be something more to this whole Excess Summon thing that hasn't been revealed, yet, and without any info about it, I say we strip the article down to the bare bones (ie. say it exists, but we dunno what it entails, yet), instead of going by random speculation. Or, if there's proof that that's how Excess Summons work, please post a link to the reference for verification. 66.228.109.2 (talk) 01:23, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Lawl, nobody noticed that it's EXCEED SUMMON.... NOT EXCESS SUMMON ?

It was changed after this conversation took place A Wikia contirutor (talk • contribs) 00:48, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Page name
umm, why Exceed Summon redirects to Excess Summon? This page's name is supposed to be Exceed Summon :p Order (talk • contribs) 00:44, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Because someone moved one of the pages and never bothered to move the other. To my knowledge, we're not sure if its "Exceed" or "Excess", since the translation was choppy. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:22, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

This is OCG/TCG?
Hold on a sec, this is going to be really put into the OCG and the TCG? Or are these cards going to be converted to synchro monsters that read "1 tuner and 1 or more non-tuner level - monsters" or fusion monsters that read similar "This monster can only be summoned by placing the required material monsters underneath the summoned monster. (they are not sent to the graveyard, you do not use polymerization.)" etc?

Honestly I think to not convert them would be ridiculous, there would have to be so many new rules, and people are just now really getting into synchros. They wouldn't give us dark synchros either. What color are these new cards going to be if not converted?

This is way to soon, personally, Accel Synchro JUST came out.

If they're gonna make them, then they're gonna be new because of the overlay rule. It's what they did with Synchros, they added a new card-type to add interest to the series and boost sales. I think it's unlikely that they'd add these kinds of cards and convert them to one of the previous when they've already added in something new like overlay.

I personally don't think it's a bad idea, it just needs to be executed properly.

On color, I'd like to see a card-type with a deep red background. I mean deeper than the Slifer promo. But they could do something like grey or orange. We'll just have to wait for the first scans to find out. A Wikia contirutor (talk • contribs) 03:30, January 12, 2011 (UTC)