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Cno. 69
Number C69: Heraldry Chaos Crest "Looks pointedly at the card"

I really think that this is a BAD idea to release as is. Let me list a number of issues you probably noticed:

1) 4000 ATK. Really Konami? This can be ranked-up from ANY Rank 4 Xyz using Limited Barian's force. Wipe your opponent's field, speed two Rank 4s, swig two bottles of RUM and it's game. 4000 ATK is BIG. Too big. I mean, there are cards that can overwhelm this card in ATK, but then again, who would attack this thing since...

2) Quoted from card: "When an opponent's monster declares an attack: Destroy all cards your opponent controls." WHAT. REALLY KONAMI? This is horrendously broken. Ok, it hinges on your opponent being stupid enough to attack it. So what? IT DOES NOT NEED XYZ MATERIAL TO EVEN BE ATTACHED TO USE THIS, AND IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE RANKED-UP FROM REGULAR 69. No monster during opponent's battle phase? No problem; Xyz Reborn or Call of the Haunted this from the Graveyard. Your opponent HAS to waste valuable cards to take care of this card in some way ASAP because otherwise they can't attack at all, and 4000 ATK plus this effect is pressure enough to make them do some sub-par plays just to get rid of it while you set up a backup. YOU CAN HIDE BEHIND THIS THING WHENEVER YOU SUMMON IT.

3) This issue is more minor, but still a problem: The effect gained from explicitly ranking-up Heraldry Crest. It's not as bad because it's a rank-up effect, and it's reasonable since Genome Heriter has a better version of this, but the reason I think it's a problem is because it's THIS GUY. If he had this effect alone I wouldn't be whining. It's a good effect on its own. Problem is, he has it on top of all the problems I listed above.

4) Not nomi? Not even semi-nomi?? *facepalms* WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? We already have a host of cards that can call this thing from the Extra Deck easy-peasy. FROM THE GRAVEYARD TOO???!!!! SAYONARA, LOGIC.

Now let me share with you the horrors of inserting this card into a Heraldry Deck:

Remember the one-time worst Heraldry Monster? Yeah I'm talking about Unicorn. This thing was worthless when it first came out, except for emergency relief. Then came Rank-Up Magics. Specifically two cards.

The first was Limited Barian's force. That could rank-up regardless of type, allowing a depowered Genome Heriter summoned back through Unicorn to become something stronger like Number C105. But due to the nature of the current Rank-Up monsters, this was a desperate idea at best.

Then came the second: Number c106: Giant Hand Red. This card gained its effect from ANY NUMBER MONSTER. You can see where I'm going. Depowered number --> Limited Barian's --> Giant Hand Red. Heck, I even threw in Twin-Head Eagle before step two to give Giant Hand Red extra Xyz Materials. But as Giant Hand Red wasnt that game-breaking, Heraldries remained in the shadows.

Do you see where I'm going?

Introduce Number C69. If we replace Giant Hand Red with C69, HELL will break loose. HEraldries don't have the issue seen with Rank-Up Magics that normal decks have, ie: draws RUM, no way to Rank-Up, because of the combo I just described. With Leo in the Deck, it is childishly easy to bring Unicorn to the fray. With their other comboes, its childishly easy to bring out Genome Heriter. Lob in a RUM for good measure, and we have a 4000 ATK monster. Which can ALSO be brought back by Unicorn for a 4000 ATK wall of trolling. So its effect is negated. What idiot is going to attack a 4000 ATK monster? Most people don't run monsters that can exceed this thing's ATK.

To conclude, I know that I'm probably overblowing it, and speculating the crap out of everything, as I don't even remotely understand the concept of the current meta beyond "load your hand, swarm the field, rip what little your opponent's have to shreds, otk" but with everything I have put forth, I really do think that the impending threat of Number C69 seems rather...formidable to say the least. Aeron Solo wuz here (If you wanna talk)  20:35, October 17, 2013 (UTC)