User talk:GrouchMan

Linking
There's really no reason to link terms every single time you come up, like you did here. Too many links make it look sloppy, and in extreme cases, can result in an article looking like this. Cheesedude 01:52, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not actually sure if you're apologizing or just telling me that you don't care and will continue to link everything, to be honest. Cheesedude 00:34, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok then. I'm not a fan of redirects myself. It's not necessary to avoid them, but I usually try to get rid of any I see when editing (though at the same time, I believe they should exist for search functions). Cheesedude 08:59, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

The Winged Dragon of Ra
No need to put the name of the card/rarity in the prefix while they already redirect to the same card. OMG! You did it 02:00, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you should learn to keep it, yet you can do a lot of other stuff. OMG! You did it 02:09, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Could both of you please calm down? The way you guys are arguing is not going to solve the issue. If you are going to insult each other, rather than have a mature discussion, then please stop. It's neither helpful nor fair. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:48, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know I'm to blame but he started it. He knows my edits of fixing redirects are helpful but he refuses to admit it. -- GrouchMan (Send a note then scram!! ) 20:51, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Please, I've already asked you both to stop. There's no need for those comments.
 * Linking card numbers, set numbers and rarity abbreviations as they appear rathering than skipping straight to the target page has been the policy for years. I'm not saying it should never be changed, but if you do want to change it and find and numbers of users expressing concern, you should see what the rest of the community think, rather than try to force it or get into an argument like this one. You could start a forum here suggesting the change. More members of the community should hopefully respond and try to agree on something. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:02, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * After you go here, enter an appropriate title saying that you're proposing a change to linking on card articles in the box labelled "Add new topic". Click "Add new topic". It will start you off editing a new page. Say what you're suggesting below the text it starts you off with and ask what people think. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:16, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just say what changes you want to make. Say why you think it's better. And ask if people could post their opinions. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:25, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Help
Ok, I've read over all of this briefly. If you want to change the style the wiki uses relating to redirects on card pages, start a topic about it in the Forum. That being said, both you and FredCat need to calm down. I recommend you both stop arguing at get back to constructive editing of the wiki. I don't care who started it, you both need to stop. On another note, yes, Deltaneos is an admin, but that does not give him unilateral rule over the wiki. If he changes something, and other users don't like it, he's intelligent enough to change it back and/or attempt to argue rationally for why it's better this way.

For the record, I am not a fan of redirects myself. However, I have no problems with them on card pages, as otherwise they just turn into backlinks. In addition, redirects involving capitalization do not bother me, such as attack position. Cheesedude 23:58, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * That I do not see a problem with, but I don't know if others do. I recommend not changing them until this whole issue is resolved. Cheesedude 00:01, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good. I didn't realize he had already covered that when I suggested starting a topic there. Cheesedude 00:03, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw. I honestly don't know if we have any policy on swearing, but personal attacks are generally frowned upon on any wiki. I'd ask Deltaneos or another admin. I'm not the right person to ask. Cheesedude 00:08, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * On another note, you were apparently under the impression that I was an admin and used my approval as part of your justification to FredCat. I'm not an admin (that would be cool though), just a very active editor right now. So sorry if that hurt your argument at all. Cheesedude 03:35, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re: FredCat's recent comments on my talk page
Your comments on his talk page haven't been very nice either. I'm glad you've started discussing with the rest of the community more politely in the forum. But you are both still attacking each other after being asked not to on more than one occassion. You're only encouraging more bad behaviour from him, when you continue to insult him. And vica-versa. It is not helping the problem. I don't want either of you to be banned. If you can please both behave, that won't have to happen. If he insults you, you do not have to insult him back. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:34, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Edit Wars
I don't care who started it, I don't care who's the victim, settle it like adults or you will both be blocked from editing. --Blue (Talk) 01:36, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Try and reason with him first before dragging this out any longer, if you don't mind. --Blue (Talk) 01:40, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Could you please show him a link to the forum you were referring to (if he hasn't seen it already)? --Blue (Talk) 01:44, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Name-calling won't solve the problem, it'll just make it worse. --Blue (Talk) 01:46, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Spaces in Rulings Pages
The extra lines in the Rulings pages make it easier to edit. Please don't remove them, especially since it doesn't make a difference to how the compiled page appears.

Space In Need.
Oh c'mon, are you feeling very embarrass with childish show in your name? Time to grow up and move on. --FredCat100 01:53, June 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Too shy, now time to hatch from your childish egg and be mature. Forgot your past and move on. --FredCat100 01:57, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Personal attacks
Guys, can both of you please stop attacking each other. You can both be more mature than this. You had a chance to discuss the changes fairly, but this behaviour has disrupting other editors and putting people off trying to reach an agreement on these changes. Trying to force your version is not going to work and these attacks certainly aren't. If you can't discuss a proposal fairly, it's not going to work. You've both been asked to this and given plenty of chances stop this in the past and have been banned for ignoring. If you continue the same will only happen again. -- Deltaneos (talk) 02:26, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

A compromise?
I don't know if you can reply just yet, but how about this: If you really want to make no redirects for card rarities, just add the pipe links behind the card rarity EG C, so as to keep with the templates set since... I don't know, 2006? Thanks! Toob (Leave a message) 14:32, June 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Uhh also, mind leaving the card set numbers intact? They are there to check if it actually redirects. That being said, nice job fixing (well it doesn't do anything, but no harm either) these odd links. Toob (Leave a message) 14:34, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

HI
WHAT'S YOUR DECK THAT YOU PLAY WITH?

RE:RE; Hi
Erm alright whats you duel record and is your deck legal and real? (just wondering)
 * Hmm OK. Do u think u want to start going pro? That way you get to know other stratagies etc.

RE: Edit wars
Look, you are undoing edits that have been discussed as OK, so please stop. You have been doing this since you came on.--Tapper930 (talk • contribs) 16:39, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Stop
Please just stop. I still prefer your versions better, but the community as a whole does not, as was evident in the forum discussion. Find another way to be helpful. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:23, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey, just to say thank you because you helped to catch my attention about Big Shield Gardna's flaw. Not that your fault for missing it, I just notice that name made an appearance in the wrong article. Hope we getting along alright in future. -- F  red  C  at  T.P. • F.R. • J.R. • W.S. 23:09, September 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Depend, if we looked out at each other... -- F  red  C  at  T.P. • F.R. • J.R. • W.S. 23:22, September 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * As I saw the mistake that you discovered but you missed, while you saw the mistake that I found but I have not seen it myself. If that improved our bond, then we should be friend. -- F  red  C  at  T.P. • F.R. • J.R. • W.S. 23:30, September 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * (put on my yellow washing glove and stuck my covered hand to you) Handshake? Know me, I am such puss that I would rather my own fur to lick off. XD -- F  red  C  at  T.P. • F.R. • J.R. • W.S. 23:35, September 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ain't you, I am part cat so that's why. (shake your green hand) But yea, it's ok after while... -- F  red  C  at  T.P. • F.R. • J.R. • W.S. 23:50, September 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * =3 -- F  red  C  at  T.P. • F.R. • J.R. • W.S. 23:53, September 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Pretty much... -- F  red  C  at  T.P. • F.R. • J.R. • W.S. 00:01, September 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was dull and ugly than beach... honestly... -- F  red  C  at  T.P. • F.R. • J.R. • W.S. 00:05, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Huge News

 * Whazzat?--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 00:45, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, look up, Wheeler... or should I say; "Head up"? -- F  red  C  at  T.P. • F.R. • J.R. • W.S. 00:49, September 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Lol. xD You guys made up? That's great. Happy for you.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 00:51, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Pretty much... -- F  red  C  at  T.P. • F.R. • J.R. • W.S. 00:53, September 9, 2010 (UTC)