Forum:Effect Negates on SS only monsters

Alright so we all know SS only cards like Cyber Eltanin and Sephylon, the Ultimate Timelord. So the question today is: If I use a card effect that summons them and negates their abilities (cyber network/Sephylon's effect) could I summon either of them that way. (I don't mean to limit this question to just them but they are the ones I know of and for setup lets say thay are in gy or banished and not in hand)