Talk:Alien

Rulings
When did the rulings on A-counters change? I thought it was still "A-counters don't weaken opposing monsters if no cards that mention that effect are on the field" (like Alien Warrior). Speedball 02:38, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Tier One?
I recently heard an idea that aliens might be good enough competitively to make it to tier one. Its probably not true, but it would be cool if it was, as Aliens are one of my favorite archetypes.LightMasterJ 18:00, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

question about attributes
I have added attributes to the list but they have been deleted, my question is why just show some of the attributes? I get showing some of them make it easier to see when going through playing styles but when only some are listed, it gets confusing, also by listing attributes you can see how cards could match up for combos outside of what is on the suggested decklist. So just LIGHT and DARK attributes, or should we include ALL the attributes? - Soundeffex 23:15, March 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * The reason I removed them was because there is no clear reason already shown for that to be important. Chaos Sorcerer needs LIGHT and DARK monsters. No other Attribute is needed for this deck so listing that Alien Mars has FIRE doesn't help the page much but it makes blocks of text harder to read. --LordGeovanni 01:46, March 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * To throw one more idea as to why to put out all attributes is the fact that this is not really an actual deck, many people will use the guide on the deck page, however when it comes down to it they tend to change and modify, and begin reworking it to fit their needs. But I will say that if they got to that point they will have the cards in front of them so they would not need the page to show attributes. I originally put it up to look uniform and so that it had a set guideline, and the second time so that you would notice my question. Thank you for responding so quickly. - Mecha Bunny Guy 19:46, March 29, 2010 (UTC) (Still Soundeffex just changed the signature)

AFTERTHOUGHT: However I would ask that Shocktrooper has it's DEF points put up and left alone, Just having the ATK points up is like only writing half a story, and it is more tactical to know both ATK and DEF points when dealing with no effect monsters. - Mecha Bunny Guy 19:49, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

P.P.S. Got rid of the staple card text after chaos magician, the notice above the decklist specifically says do not add staple cards.

@LordGeovanni
I already left a message for you on your talk page. I'll say it again.

Can you stop being a busybody? There's no reason for you to separate the effects into different categories. Only 2 monsters have effects that are different to the standard A-Counter effects, and no other page lists all of the stats of cards that you should use in the decks. Why do you believe Aliens are so special that they deserve to have a different page layout?

You just scream vandalism rather than arguing your case like a normal person. Instead of crying, and going to mods like a b***h, why don't you explain why you feel your edits are worth being put on the page?--YamiWheeler 19:42, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

About the card list
The are there for two main reasons:


 * 1 - To show what use a card can be in the deck.
 * 2 - To explain why a user entered a card into the list.

The second reason is why I started this idea. The Frog page had constant edits over Junk Synchron because people couldn't understand why it was there. Now, since I typed out all the on the Frog page, there have only been benificial additions to the Frog page. I have tried this with the Alien page and you can see the results.

Now the reason why the are so long is because each part of the  can be viewed as important. Please tell me below or on my talk page if this is still unclear. --LordGeovanni 19:43, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * What you put in the brackets is just the basic effect of the monster. Why do you need to do that when people can click, see the card and look at the effect for themselves? You aren't giving them any tips. You're just stating the obvious.

"(LVL1, LIGHT-Attribute, Tuner, Can Special Summon a one LVL 4 or lower "Alien" monster upon Normal Summon - destroyed upon End Phase)"

VS

"(Needed for Cosmic Fortress Gol'Gar. Can also make a instant Catastor.)"

The latter description shows you how you can actually USE the card, rather than obviously stating what it does. If people are reverting your edits on any page, you don't USE the page to justify why the tip is there, you should say so in the edit Summary rather than screaming "VANDALISM!!" Also, no other Sub-Type page (Lightsworns, Blackwings) states the Level, Attribute, etc. next to the cards that you use in the Deck. It is unnecessary, because that's what the Fing wiki is for!--YamiWheeler 19:49, April 28, 2010 (UTC)