User talk:Cheesedude

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Reginald Kastle's Overhundred Numbers

 * Isn't it more better to keep the Number 10X cards in his decklist because it symbolized the power of his comrades he inherited as he already has their Chaos Forms? Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 01:37, September 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * He never played them and if he had them in his Extra Deck, it would exceed the ED limit (which we don't know exists in the anime, but regardless). In the end, he never played them. He obviously owned them, but that's not the same thing. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:42, September 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * Since he already owned the cards wouldn't it be better if we made a separate Decklist with "Owned Cards" as cards he owned? Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 22:58, September 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * In most cases, yes. But that article covers it in the Number Hunting secton. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:00, September 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * There is a section of the Owned Cards in Dennis Macfield and Sylvio Sawatari's which they didn't even used in duels and weren't their own cards.. but still added in a deck list as owned cards, so I suggest making a similar Owned Cards Decklist with a note describing they weren't used but still in his possession as he already possesses the CNumber version of each one. Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 02:05, September 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * I am saying that we usually would do that, but we will not in this case because its already detailed in the Number Hunting section. That section specifies that he did indeed own all of those cards. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 09:17, September 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Nothing clearly classifies that Astral absorbed the Over Hundred ones because they aren't parts of his memory, in other words they are still in his possession even after losing but each of the numbers lower than 100 aren't to be added in the section i'm trying to add. Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 19:48, September 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Astral didn't absorb them, no. But we have no idea what happened to them at all, so we can't say he still owns them afterwards. I don't think there's any reason to assume he doesn't have them, but there's not much reason to assume he does, either. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:10, September 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * What you're implying is the same as Quattro's deck after losing to him. What has happened to Quattro's deck after he died aside from the Number cards? In other words, where were the Gimmick Puppet cards.. absolutely we don't know. Same with these cards, we dunno what happened to them and Astral can't even absorb them, so they must be added to an Owned Cards section in his decks' page as we he was the last one who held them. Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 20:31, September 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * The Number Hunting section specifies that Nasch lost the base Numbers to Astral. The show says nothing about the Over-Hundreds, so therefore we don't either. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:39, September 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Even if the Number Hunting Section says that, adding the cards with a note saying that "They weren't absorbed by Astral and their last possession is unknown" beside them is a better choice in my point of view. Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 20:53, September 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * please reply to me :) Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 20:19, September 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * Such a note can be added to that line, sure. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:40, September 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * If I wanna search his decks, these cards must be added to the Decks' page so as to know he has them, otherwise i won't know .. (His page has very large amounts of information). Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 00:47, September 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * But they aren't his Deck. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:50, September 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * They aren't "originally his deck", they are in his possession even after he died. He still owns them till the final minute, adding them in the deck's page won't mislead its viewer. Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 13:56, September 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * They are not confirmed to be in this Deck. He had no need to run any of them, his entire strategy was using Spells/Traps to bring out the Number C forms while bypassing the originals. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:50, September 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * You said it yourself before, his Extra Deck will exceed the limit of 15. What i'm talking about isn't about strategy, it's the matter that during episode 142 Don Thousand's possession of all numbers were transformed to Nasch (being included are the Over Hundred Ones), when Astral absorbed the numbers, the Over Hundred ones weren't among them. Therefore, after Nasch had them and died, their location remains unknown (Same case when Quattro died, his deck aside from the numbers was in an unknown location or possession). To sum it up, the last location the Over Hundred Numbers was with Nasch, so a section in his decks must be added as Owned Cards or Inherited Cards or whatever. Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 00:59, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

Here's the logical points from this discussion, summed up, as far as I can tell.
 * Character has X cards. => They should be in his Deck section.
 * We don't know that they're actually his Deck. => They should not in the Deck section.
 * He still owns the cards. => They should still be mentioned.
 * They are mentioned a more appropriate section; Number Hunting => No need to mention them in the Deck section.
 * Counterargument

Dark Soul Taker, can you provide a counterargument for Cheesedude pointing out that the "Number Hunting" section is more appropriate than the Deck section? -- Deltaneos (talk) 02:16, September 18, 2016 (UTC)


 * People always view the decks page more than pages with huge amount of information, thus, pointing out their location with a Note Number beside each of their names in the decks page is more helpful, direct, and would never be misleading. Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 11:02, September 18, 2016 (UTC)


 * so what's the counter argument? Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 00:14, September 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * What evidence do you have that points to the Decks pages being viewed more often? It would be misleading, though. The cards were never shown to be in his Deck, period. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 09:19, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

Evidences include : When consturcting a deck based on his plays, I would access the deck page. If looking for a specific card to see if he possesses it or not, I'd view it. To view a specific game deck as the Duel Terminal decks. To view Konami's constructed deck i'll view it. If viewing a specific duel and its episode.

People won't view the normal page alot because: The page contains information that rather describes what happened in the episode. May contain spoils for people who didn't view the anime yet. Contains alot of sections where viewing a specific card would be hard. People would tend to watch episodes rather than reading it in that page.

To sum this up, that's an edit war that always an admin wins :) I know that you admins would never respond to my request anyways because you do what you want and what YOU only see improves the wikia. The same idea was already done in Sylvio Sawatari's and Dennis Macfield's pages but you refuse to do it here. Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 15:03, September 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * That is not evidence - that is simply what you yourself do. Of course you would view the Deck page specifically to see his Deck. That doesn't mean everyone views the deck pages more in general.
 * If you truly believe that,you are free to. But I already explained why the same metric used on those two pages does not apply to Nasch. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:29, September 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm in favor of not displaying them there. They were not used by Shark and they weren't needed by Shark to perform his combos.
 * We also don't display "Number 5: Doom Chimera Dragon" on Vector's page, for instance.
 * In any case, it's one more vote on not displaying the Number 10X on Shark's decklists. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 21:39, September 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * @Cheesedude what I myself do is the same as what many people do, the purpose of accessing the pages. The decks' page is more needed then the others so its more accurate. I don't know if you can -as an admin- view such statistics or not, but its basic psychological thinking.
 * @Becasita Firstly, i'm speaking about their location right now rather than their unfitting to his combos, Secondly, Number 5: Doom Chimera Dragon's location is already known which is with Astral, Finally, Astral already has a Number section describing where he got them and that he owns them and that's why i'm saying that a similar section describing the location of the Over Hundred Number is better provided at his decks' page as Owned Cards. Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 02:44, September 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * This proves my point about the admins :) Dark Soul Taker (talk • contribs) 20:02, October 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, that's just unnecessary (and no, a smiley face doesn't make it any better). Couldn't this all just be solved by putting a link to the Number Hunting section on the Decks page? Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 00:12, October 2, 2016 (UTC)

TCG card legality split?
Just wandering if this is a thing that would be possible with how the pages work, but can cards that have that enjoyable state of being legal in the US, but not legal in the rest of the TCG, have their status' split to reflect as such?

As it stands, it seems rather mis-informing to say it's legal because of it's release in the US, but the majority of TCG territories can't us it, but also saying it's illegal because of the reverse.

PhotonLegion95 (talk • contribs) 10:18, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

Chazz's mannierism
I do not know why you deleted my information. Chazz speaks in chuncks (that means that he stops after every single word givin emphasis to all of them), At least in the Spanish version. Troly (talk • contribs) 08:25, September 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * Chunks? As in sentence fragments? I reverted it because I had no idea what you meant by that. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:03, September 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * Is like he speaks. pause. speaks again. pause. You know what I mean?--Troly (talk • contribs) 19:06, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

Egyptian God Cards in Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters 4: Battle of the Great Duelist commercial
Hi. It has been long time since I stopped editing in Wikia. I came back just for one thing: I was watching a video about the Yu-Gi-Oh! commercials about packs and games during Duel Monsters era, and I found a thing that I think it's very important about the Egyptian Gods. The commercial video of Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters 4: Battle of the Great Duelist shows the three God cards with some differences from the cards that were released. The Winged Dragon of Ra card is shown with a black box instead of it's artwork; Slifer the Sky Dragon card is shown with a different background and Obelisk the Tormentor is shown with a different pose and artwork. Here is the pic I took from that video. [IMG]http://i64.tinypic.com/212scnl.jpg[/IMG]

Video link: https://youtu.be/GPILWOK7PQ0?t=2m33s

I think they should be added to their God cards' artworks page. What do you think? --Siguiendo la luna no llegare lejos, tan lejos como se pueda llegar ♫ 04:53, September 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't see a problem with doing that. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:47, December 24, 2016 (UTC)

Lancers
They're at it again. *Sigh...* obligatory lock needed? Sorry to bother you with this again. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 03:24, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

What's the problem with putting them in the notes column? --Jackpo21 (talk • contribs) 23:54, September 19, 2016 (UTC)


 * Consensus was to not list them. Why would listing them in another location suddenly be acceptable? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:57, September 19, 2016 (UTC)


 * But why can't they be listed? --Jackpo21 (talk • contribs) 00:34, September 20, 2016 (UTC)


 * Because everyone involved in the conversation who is not you agrees that there is no reason to list them. That's a consensus. You have attempted to convince myself and other uses that the summoning methods should be listed, but have no swayed anyone's opinion with your arguments. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 09:26, September 20, 2016 (UTC)


 * The only reason no one's agreeing with me is because your all sick of this and want it to end already. If it weren't for dragonemperor, you probably wouldn't have even cared about the summoning methods being added. Your just doing what's easier for you instead of trying to work out a compromise to make both sides happy, otherwise this would have ended long ago. --Jackpo21 (talk • contribs) 16:20, September 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * You're correct in that I would like to end this already. The fact is though, Dragonemperor brought up a concern and I happen to agree with that concern. Had he not, would I have noticed on my own? Not sure, but quite possibly no.
 * Sometimes both sides simply can't be happy. I have explained the way this works - you have yet to raise a reason for the addition of the summoning methods that convinces other users (myself included, but not limited to myself by any means. My own decision can be overturned by the community). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:40, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

Marketing Team
Hello, My name is Dhiab Aldhaheri from Suffolk University, my Marketing team and I are working on a group project this semester about Wikia, Fandom and this project is very important to us and we have some questions we would like to have some answers for. Please contact me on dhiabmd96@gmail.com if you are able to do this interview with us

Thank you

Dhiabbmd123 (talk • contribs) 18:41, September 20, 2016 (UTC)

WSJ wiki
Are you free to do some editing on the Weekly Shonen Jump Wiki? http://weekly-shonen-jump.wikia.com/wiki/Weekly_Shonen_Jump_Wiki 17:23, September 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * I am not really familiar with any anime/manga aside from the various YGO series and I'm less familiar with the manga than I am with the anime. If there's something specific that is YGO-related that needs fixing/expansion, I may be able to give it a try. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:30, September 24, 2016 (UTC)

Allen
About the Allen page... They use the same archetype dude. Anna's last name on the Japanese TV show was KOZUKI. Allen uses the RAILWAY Series. So it's pretty safe to assume that his last name would also be KABOOM. He wears FREAKING ROLLER SKATES!!! Come on dude! Etriantactician (talk • contribs) 21:08, September 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * It was also thought to be fairly safe to assume that Starve Venom Fusion Dragon had 2500 ATK and was Level 7. This is why we don't assume. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 22:55, September 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * Frankly, this is kind of an unprecedented thing (a character with the same last name appearing in another series, I mean). And frankly, I don't trust the dub not to screw it up. I'm not saying they will for sure, but I don't have enough faith in them to assume they'll be consistent between the two series.
 * Also, what Sanokal said. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:07, September 29, 2016 (UTC)

High Quality Manga Card Pictures
Hello, I saw the image you posted for Air Barrier and I became impressed at how large this image size was. I saw that you were the user who posted that image on Janurary of 2015. May I ask how you managed to obtain such a large image size? Usual manga card pictures are about 4 to 5 times smaller, and that's the optimistic estimate. Thank you for reading this message! Ur-Procyon (talk • contribs) 02:01, October 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * I just cropped the art from the best quality scan I could find and that's how large it ended up being. I use IrfanView to crop, if that makes a difference. I'm honestly not too sure how image size is determined after cropping. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:36, October 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * I see, thank you! One more thing: do you remember the quality scan you used to get that picture? I'm understanding that it was from a website. I've tried to find such, but they all are mostly equally small in terms of size. Ur-Procyon (talk • contribs) 12:22, October 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * Most of my Japanese GX scans were from Janime, which no longer exists. There is also a possibility I took and cropped the art from the the existing card image, which was not uploaded by me. I can't exactly recall, its been quite a while and I didn't always take the card art images from the same source because oftentimes one source would have a better scan for chapter x and another would have the best one for chapter y. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:42, October 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * Alright, I think I'll try out IrfanView out. Thank you! Ur-Procyon (talk • contribs) 19:47, October 11, 2016 (UTC)

Navigation nonGame question
In between many card galleries for anime exclusive cards for ARC-V, there are cases where WinterNightmare and Elvin Kara put nonGame (with a capital 'G') in navigation headers, however others such as yourself, IgorThunderMaster write nongame with a lowercase 'g'. Which should be the consistent name?Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 18:34, November 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * I prefer lowercase, but it doesn't matter either way since they both function the same way. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:37, November 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * Okay, did you once wanted the 'g's' in all nongame pages to be lowercase for consistency reasons as well as for past nongame cards? I'm not planning to do this at all. Just want to knowCardsknower (talk • contribs) 19:09, November 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * I tend to switch one uppercase to lowercase if I'm editing the page for another reason, so once again, it doesn't matter. Its only my own OCD tendencies that cause me to switch it, but I wouldn't go out of my way. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:29, November 14, 2016 (UTC)

Egyptian Gods
But we don't see the Egyptian Gods get sealed with the 7 millennium items..
 * What exactly are you referring to? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:28, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Numbers
Hey there. If it's not too much trouble, I'd like to have your input in this subject. Snorlax is suggesting we rename every manga Numbers exactly the way the name is shown in the pic we have for them, including even The Seven's Sins' hyphen instead of colon and Giga-Brilliant's lack of colon. Do you think that's necessary at all? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 22:00, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Reply and saw Becasita's message
I saw Becasita's message about two hours ago and I decided that there is pretty much nothing else in galleries I can do is add/remove/replace galleries and images. For that reason for that message, I wanted to remove the redirects on the card gallery pages since I initially believed that wasn't pointless and the fact that redirects are something that should be avoided, but with these recent messages, that's not the case anymore. While this will be a long shot, galleries I haven't edited yet will probably be listed down in one of my sandboxes until newer images are released for those galleries, but it will be well worth it in the end since those would be things I can edit without a problem.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 17:06, December 1, 2016 (UTC)

Categories
Well, I moved Xyz Summons with card effect to Performs an Xyz Summon after noticing that SnorlaxMonster was changing all instances of the former to the latter on card pages. From what SnorlaxMonster appears to be doing, Performs an Xyz Summon is meant for cards that Xyz Summon a monster immediately after the resolution of an effect, while Treats Special Summon as Xyz Summon is for cards with the (This Special Summon is treated as an Xyz Summon.) text. Whether you think such a distinction should be made, on the other hand, is something you'll likely have to ask SnorlaxMonster about. I just saw what he was doing and helped him out, essentially, since he was the admin. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 12:30, December 6, 2016 (UTC))

Anime card pages
No problem. It has been a while since I left this and many things have been changed. Please answer me about this. --Dark-Shimy (talk • contribs) 22:33, December 23, 2016 (UTC)

Edit War (feel free to ignore if you're on holiday)
Sorry to bother you, Cheese...actually, I HATE to bother you at this time, this is the last thing that you need to deal with in the festive season, but I'm having difficulties with DragonEmeperor regarding the Zarc page. I accidentally added some bits regarding the dragon form, and Drags proceeded to completely rewrite the section, but even after I removed the parts from the paragraph that I'd written, he continued to undo the edits, and I'm not quite sure why. Don't ban him over this, and I know I can come off as petty, but I'm honestly confused what the...policy? (Don't really know if this warrants such a term) would be regarding this, since (warning, bias on my part) I find his entries to be overly long and poorly written.

Cheers. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 04:38, December 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * I would just not worry about it. I intend to get around to merging the Zarc pages after the holidays. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:34, December 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * It's not the differences I'm concerned about (well, sorta, I did intend to sorta what was happening out at some point, so it's nice to have clarification); it's more the grammar/structure differences between our edits..I'm really not sure how to deal with that, because I don't want to start a crusade or anything. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 09:33, December 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * I get that, but I'm saying the entire issue will become irrelevant once we merge them. We just fix the page that remains. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:54, December 27, 2016 (UTC)


 * Ah, gotcha, Rogee. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 05:59, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Clashed heads with DragonEmeperor again on Jack's page, and...I honestly need more view on this other than ours. I'm at a loss as to whose fault it is. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 07:46, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

Questions
I got some question?

Two people duel but one cut in to join and how many life points take away? Intrusion penalty 8000-4000 or 8000-6000!

How you stop number 39? With card I can use to beat it in yu gi oh duel generation? Do you play yu gi oh duel generation?

From yuma10000!


 * There no real world equivalent to the intrusion penalty. If you're going to use that for real world fun duels, it would be up to the players.
 * I don't play Duel Generation. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:54, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

皇
Why are you translating 皇 as "King"? I know it can mean that, but for most intents and purposes, it refers to someone more powerful than a king, an "Emperor".

You shouldn't base your translations on the TCG's "True King". HHT  18:53, December 27, 2016 (UTC)


 * "King" and "Emperor" mean the same thing. They're both a ruler. Heck, I'd argue "Ruler" is perfectly valid as well. Or "Monarch". There's no point in splitting on hairs on this and insisting that the TCG is wrong because they chose a slightly different word. Except in cases where the name is entirely in katakana. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:06, December 27, 2016 (UTC)


 * I disagree. A "King" 王 is not the same as an "Emperor" 皇 . The word 皇 has always been used to refer to the emperors of Japan and China. You would never refer to them with the word 王.


 * In fact, the very basic meaning of 皇 is 諸王に超越する王 "One who rules over kings". It's also the reason why the Kanji is written like that: The 自 "Self" over 王 "Kings". They do not mean the same thing. HHT   19:25, December 27, 2016 (UTC)


 * I think our arguments actually boil down to the same point - King is correct, but Emperor is "more correct". If we had no precedent in the TCG for using "King" in these situations, I would be arguing to use "Emperor" myself".
 * Its similiar to "Scarlight Red Dragon Archfiend". I always advocated for "Scar-right" rather than "Scarlight". Ultimately, both are correct and the TCG went with the version that might be slightly less correct. At that point, I did not continue to insist upon "Scar-right".
 * TCG names are often bad, but not always. Our translated names should always take the tact that the TCG made an active attempt to translate it, unless they obviously did not and want with something like "That Wacky Magic!" or "Toadally Awesome". The Draco names are not that bad, so I see no reason to split hairs on the King part. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:47, December 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * Ok, but I think you are confused. I'm not saying that the archetype name should be changed to "True Emperor". I'm talking about the trans_name section. That section has no relation to how the TCG localizes names. There should be no problems with translating 皇 as "more correct" in trans_names. HHT   08:04, December 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * I am also talking about the trans_name section. And yes, I am saying that TCG names do have a relation to that.
 * Alternate suggestion: Use "High King" instead of "Emperor". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:39, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

Template
Hey there. Uh, if we still haven't, can we please have a discussion and reach a final decision about whether to use "card name (manga)|card name" or manga|card name"? People keep switching one for another over and over and over again in the manga articles and it's driving me nuts because both work the same and I don't see a point in keeping changing them. It's as if each editor changes them for what they like the most. It'd be best if we reached a decision on what to use, that'd save a lot of unnecessary edits (and of course, I'd also add info with the chosen form by default). LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 13:19, January 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * If you mean Manga, it has been taken care of already. Discussion happened here. We are going with links. Becasita Pendulum (talk • contribs) 13:46, January 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh, good. Let's go with links then. Thanks. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 20:50, January 9, 2017 (UTC)

Discord
Yeah, well, I don't have Discord, nor do I really like the way it works to begin with. Thanks for the offer anyway. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 21:26, January 10, 2017 (UTC))


 * That's fine. I'm not a huge fan of it myself, but I'm more or less tied to it for a variety of things at this point. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:29, January 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm not totally against it, mind you, but I've tried it before and found it very unwieldy, and it seemed to cause optimization issues with my computer and made it lag a lot. I also am of the opinion that if I'm going to put in new software, it should be for a few reasons rather than just one (would you buy a gaming system if you only ever intend to play one game on it?). I can give it another whirl at some point down the line, but I can't see myself using it a lot or spending all that much time on it. I've replied to UltimateKuriboh's post on his talk page, do you find my opinions reasonable? (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 21:34, January 10, 2017 (UTC))


 * I suppose it could cause lag. I was so used to the (even larger amount of) lag of Skype that Discord seems tame in comparision.
 * Reasonable enough. I'd note that the ultimate reason for any search cat existing is "will someone search for this and/or find this useful". As for how they're worded, I'm not familiar enough with card text to really comment on that part. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:40, January 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I got plenty of lag issues on my computers with these sorts of chat software, and it's new computer too, so I dunno if it's the software or my computer. I think these categories have a reason to exist because through observation, I've noticed that effects that activate upon the Summon of a monster appear to have a significant influence on what people choose to summon, obviously to reap the benefits of those effects. I don't know what the underlying issue is concerning my category creation, since I've done it for quite a while with no issues, and suddenly UltimateKuriboh keeps sending me messages and questions my judgment and stuff. It's somewhat off-putting since his posts seem rather confrontational in tone to me (I'm probably going to get flak for saying it, but better now than let it cause more issues down the line). I dunno, I've made it a goal to be as patient as possible with people on here. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 21:51, January 10, 2017 (UTC))


 * It's not just a recent thing, I'm only commenting on these edits now. Previous edits include:
 * "Prevents Tributes" --> "Cannot be Tributed" (better option might have been "Prevents Tributing")
 * "Xyz Summon with card effect" --> "Performs an Xyz Summon" (it seemed like you overlooked the "Special Summon treated as Xyz Summon" vs. "Immediately after this effect resolves, Xyz Summon" difference
 * that I decided not to comment on. But that's my fault for not bringing it up back then. In any case, Discord is also browser-based, and we use text-chat, so I doubt you'll have any lag problems. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 00:20, January 11, 2017 (UTC)


 * Calling the category "Cannot be Tributed" was me following the card text, since I note that some categories derive their names from how the trait is worded in card text itself. I think "Cannot be Tributed" sounds clearer than "Prevents Tributes" anyway. I moved "Xyz Summon with card effect" because SnorlaxMonster was moving the categories like "Synchro Summon with card effect" to "Performs a Synchro Summon" as well, so there was that. Additionally, people didn't make such a "Special Summon treated as Xyz Summon" vs. "Immediately after this effect resolves, Xyz Summon" distinction in the past, since everything in both groups went into the Xyz Summon with card effect category, prior to SnorlaxMonster making that division for Synchros. It seems that SnorlaxMonster was the one that decided to separate them, so in that regard, if this is my fault, then everyone else who put cards in the "Xyz Summon with card effect" category prior to the move is equally at fault. As for Discord, like I mentioned, I tried it before, and I did indeed get lag problems, as I told Cheesedude. Also, I have reservations about getting software for just one purpose, since I don't want to clog up my computer. Besides, if I'm on my computer, I'll probably be here anyway, so it seems somewhat redundant to me to get something like Discord when I can leave messages on here just fine. If I'm not on my computer, I won't be here or on Discord anyway (if I hypothetically got it), so I don't see much point to it, apart from speed, but that's neither here nor there to me. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 01:27, January 11, 2017 (UTC))

I got some theory episode 141!

I was thinking this duel might goes different way.

It might goes Riley, Sergey, and battle beast vs zarc or it could of be battle beast vs zarc.

What do you think?

From

Yuma10000

Bio cleanup
Hey Cheese. Sorry to bother you again. Just been tidying up the bios, but when it comes to when the Supreme King Dragon Zarc appears through the dimensional rifts I've been calling it "a massive dragon" since most of the characters don't know what it is, same as I referred to Yuto as "the masked Duelist" in the bios of characters who didn't know him. That's the right thing to do, yeah? Drags has just been changing it is all, so I want to make sure that I'm correct before I change it back.

Cheers, Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 19:34, January 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:46, January 19, 2017 (UTC)

Legacy of the Duelist page
Should that new Chancellor Sheppard page be allowed to exist? All it is just a decklist for Legacy of the Duelst DLC, and not even in Template form. FighterofLight (talk • contribs) 00:48, January 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * Of course it should exist. It obviously need major cleanup, but its certainly a page we'd want in any case. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:33, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

Some new user tried to post to the forums but ended up making a new page instead. Move it please. FighterofLight (talk • contribs) 22:05, January 21, 2017 (UTC)

Zoodiac Background Colors
A user has added on the "Zoodiac" page that there are different haze colors in the background of artworks of "Zoodiac" monster cards, and also listed the different colors on the table for the "Zoodiac" monsters. I'm not too sure if this information is even relevant for inclusion on the page at all, so I've decided to ask you before getting into a potential edit war. I just don't think there's any good reason to include it. (22:51, February 13, 2017 (UTC))


 * I would say "no", unless there is a specific pattern (like all X-Attribute monsters having the same color or all Xyz Monsters having the same color). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:19, February 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * That was what I thought. I would also think that unless the colors have some sort of symbolic purpose, like the "Artifact" monsters colors referencing the colors of the rainbow and the CYNK color model, it shouldn't be mentioned either. Should I remove the color mentions on the "Zoodiac" page per your opinion and cite this discussion post? (00:22, February 14, 2017 (UTC))


 * That's fine, but if he reverts, do listen to his reasoning. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:24, February 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Alright, well, I edited the article as mentioned, and linked to this discussion in the summary. I suppose that should do it for the matter for now. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 00:31, February 14, 2017 (UTC))


 * Just to butt in, I haven't checked myself, but are there specific colours associated with each animal of the zodiac? Maybe it's just the Espers from FFXII spilling in my mind... Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 00:34, February 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * There are "lucky colors" for each Chinese Zodiac sign, but they don't appear to match up with the haze colors on the corresponding "Zoodiac" monster. In any case, if the user wanted to add something like background color to the article because it referenced, say a concept like "lucky colors", he should mention it on the article. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 00:47, February 14, 2017 (UTC))

"Do not modify the weird lore"
You might have noticed that Japanese images of DSOD cards ae starting to surface, and they have JP-PSCT lores that sometimes don't match up with the blurb of the Millenium thing magazine. Do we have to still keep those unnecessarily-weird lores then?

And sometimes that bugged me a lot, do we really have to use those even with cards whose English lore is clearly identical but with a slightly outdated PSCT, like "Dragon's Orb"? --XBrain130™「ブレーン１３０」 20:49, March 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes. Conflicting official sources means we document the info from BOTH sources. Furthermore, Millennium Memory has the lores for all the cards besides the ones from the final Duel. Comparatively, once we have every DSOD card image, we're going to have fewer lores. There are gaps in coverage on both ends and the other is needed to plug them.
 * I would want those looked at on a case-by-case basis. I would be fine with a slight modification to the lore for "Dragon's Orb". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:26, March 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * But shouldn't the written lores from the movie have higher priority and be "more official"? --XBrain130™「ブレーン１３０」 06:06, March 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * No, not really. We want to document both, neither over the other. Its difficult to prioritize one over the other, because again, there are gaps in coverage for both. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:34, March 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, we could still use Millenium lores for cards unreadable in the movie. Becasue if we have to list 3 different texts in one lore box, it's gonna get crowded and confusing. Could we at least list them in different boxes with relative parameters or something like that? --XBrain130™「ブレーン１３０」 15:44, March 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, the plan is to separate the parameters. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:48, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

DSoD
So, in the past few days I added all missing JP card images for The Dark Side of Dimensions. A few things.
 * Since Yugi's "Silent Magician" and "Silent Swordsman" appeared, I noticed how we're documenting each separate LV as a separate monster in the anime (example: "Silent Magician LV5"). And I think we shouldn't do that. While some were made physical cards in the OCG, in the anime that's just a visual representation of the base forms' effects which just raise their ATKs, they aren't multiple cards. I think we should just add the different LVs in the cards' galleries.
 * Someone created this page and I'd like to make it proper, but I'm not used to Card Galleries. Could you help me out with the correct name for the article, links in the movie's article and stuff? LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 13:53, March 15, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure why we do that, to be honest. I'd ask Deltaneos, he might know.
 * The name is correct. I moved it a few days ago. And sure, I can look into the rest of that, I think tomorrow. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:32, March 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * Actually, this looks to need more discussion. We'll have to add a gallery parameter to . I also don't know that the "(JP)" portion of the name is proper in this case. We categorize movies more as similarly to a series than an episode. Though I honestly don't know why we have mixed galleries for the series anyway. Uh, I'll get back to you. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 11:25, March 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * The first version of the gallery had mixed English and Japanese images, so I renamed it to "JP" and made all images JP instead for consistency's sake. We usually have separate EN and JP galleries for stuff, right? And on the "Silent" monsters, I expanded that replying to your topic in the Talk Page of the movie, and also added another topic. Feel free to continue the discussion(s) there. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talk • contribs) 13:34, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Repeat vandalism
It has been brought to my attention that a user, TregRyder001 has been repeatedly changing card page links on the Yusaku Fujiki article to link to the OCG/TCG pages rather than the anime ones, despite being told by others on his talk page and in the edit summaries to cease such behavior. Could you take a look and talk to him? (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 18:17, March 17, 2017 (UTC))


 * Warned him. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:15, March 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks a lot. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 05:31, March 18, 2017 (UTC))