Talk:Xyz Monster

Wording
Pretty sure it's called "Monster Exceed" or something from what I have read. It's backwards from the norm. Too lazy to login atm 75.84.122.182 (talk) 16:22, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Color
What color do you think they'll make them. Brown, Pink, Teal? Thanonyx (talk • contribs) 17:14, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

well the discussion about the colour was informed in YCM surprisingly. the colours of the card frame will be brown... sound distasteful... unless chocolate colour... xD. another info was concern that the specification of monsters isn't entirely narrowed down. as it said the requirement are at 2 monsters of any kinds that are in same level to summon but what left out is that it didn't say YOUR own monsters or at least. so people claiming the discussion that exceed summon is similar to super polymerization??? and of course people's opinion seem to think it's broken but that cannot be based on lack of an example of an excess monster's potential. Scheath666 (talk • contribs) 07:14, February 16, 2011 (UTC)Scheath666


 * I don't know about the color, but the summoning mechanic originated in this thread on Pojo.com - note the very first paragraph of the OP's comment:
 * "So I'm bored and the new mechanic from Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL actually sounds kind of interesting. So in the absence of more information about it, I've decided to mess around with my own ideas until more is presented. Feel free to add any cards if you want, but I'm more than certain I'll turn out to be way off about how Exceed Summoning works. (emphasis mine)"
 * As far as I can tell based on a Google search, there isn't actually *any* official word yet on how Exceed summons will work, or what color Exceed monster cards will be. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:43, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I have to agree with you, upon my research they really lack of concrete info and examples of how it does, so this info we have here could turn out to be liable but that is too hasty to conclude. before the info before this was stated that excess monsters are placed in the main deck but now the newer source of someone has mention that it is placed in extra deck instead. oddly i dun see anything about the star will come as black or so and be considered as rank than level. Scheath666 (talk • contribs) 08:08, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

I actually like this better than synchro, and even fusion summon (and ritual summon). In my opinion, it's much simpler to summon them, since instead of "first synchro these two monsters to get this synchro monster, and then synchro that with..." you know how it is, you just need two level three, two, one or four monsters etc. The card also looks pretty cool. I think a black background was the right way to go. This booster just might get me back into Yugioh XD (btw, I don't have an account, so I can't sign it)  :(

I hope that "Rank" will be interchangeable with "Level"; as in, cards that specify a "Level 5 monster" can apply to Rank 5 Exceed Monsters. Is this the case? 199.212.250.97 (talk) 14:40, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Numbers
I would also like to know why are some of them numbered like No. 39, Aspiring Emperor Hope and No. 17, Revise Dragon. Thanonyx (talk • contribs) 17:49, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind, now I know why, it's a plot device. It's on Astral's page.--Thanonyx (talk • contribs) 18:01, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

exxced summon
i would like to say wtf but is it just me or is yu-gi-oh getting easyier and easyier to summon big monsters i mean a level 4 with 2500 attack and it's a light plus it can be summoned by tirbute any 2 level 4 monsters (if thats right)gavity blind and level area b wouldn't be able to stop that thing if it's level is lowed. that is not how it work you overlay the monster and it's not called level it's rank and you don't tribute and all exceed monster cannot be affect by level affecting cards

So....
How do Level cards work? Will cards like Gravity Bind affect them? I'd guess they won't be affected by them, seeing as they aren't truly a monster with a Level. --Dark Star X(talk) 02:22, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's a very good question about Exceed Monsters and I am not going to lie. We may not be sure yet (or some of us do). Now I am wondering about that. EDIT: Oh wait, it is already in the article and I just noticed. They don't have Levels so Gravity Bond and other effects that affect levels do work on them. --NejiHyuga900 (talk | contributions) "I am the Thunder Dragon!" 05:14, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

OMG
What a childish color scheme... I mean, it's very attractive to children, they will buy many and many, but I won't buy any cards with a disgusting look like this... It looks like *VERY* bad counterfeit cards... Yamimillenium - Me Contacter 13:16, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

Summon Requirement
some of the future exceed monsters are probably going to have some requirement like Synchro Monsters like 2 level 3 WIND monsters or something like taht. 70.79.82.181 (talk) 02:45, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Why Exceed?
I'm just wondering how they got the name "Exceed Monsters". I can understand Ritual, Fusion, Synchro etc. but I'm not sure where this idea came from. RedDrgn (talk • contribs) 00:51, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

lore
i was wondering why cards have japanese lore like "レベル３モンスター×２", but we just leave out the multiple sign like "2 Level 3 Monsters. 70.79.82.181 (talk) 08:02, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Being Synchro Materials
Can Exceed Monsters be a Synchro Material? I mean cmon. maybe you can tune a LV2 Tuner. Example. LV2 Krebons + NoLV No. 39 Aspiring Emperor Hope = Formula Synchron. Is it possible? can someone confirm this? 112.201.53.45 (talk) 05:47, March 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * No. Synchro Summons require monsters whose Levels add up to the Synchro Monster's Level. Exceed Monsters do not have a Level, which means they cannot be used for any Cost or Tribute with a Level requirement, and any card effects involving Levels do not apply to them. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:02, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

The Synchros require a Tuner and a Non-Tuner. Currently There are no TUNER Exceed and i doubt that there will ever be. Exceeds are non-tuner. maybe they can be synchro materials. O.o 112.201.53.45 (talk) 11:23, March 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that unregistered user mean for Materials that hiding behind the Exceed Monsters. He wanna know if those "Materials" can be used for Synchro Summon. That's which I answered no. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  11:26, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Exceed Material Monster
I have a question. What hapens when the Exceed Material Monster are remove under the Exceed Monster, is the Exceed Monster removed too or not? --Shiker&amp; (talk • contribs) 19:08, March 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Only if the entire Materials are gone while the effect text said that if it do not have any more Materials, then it can "remove" or destroy from the field. Some don't have that quote so it can stay on the field ever after the materials are gone. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:10, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I have a VERY similar question. What happens to the Exceed Material Monsters (if there are any) on an Exceed Monster when an Exceed Monster is removed fron the field? --Dark Star X(talk) 19:24, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I have another question but it its about the exceed monster, can they be special summon from the graveyard with monster reborn?--Shiker&amp; (talk • contribs) 23:59, April 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Affect same way with "Synchro Monster"/"Fusion Monster"/"Ritual Monster", only after they were summoning in their own way, except that Fusion Monster's update text (As of Elemental HERO, few of other that required to Fusion Summon first), you can Special Summon Exceed Monster back to the field, but remind ya that it don't have any more Materials to counter their opponent's plans. As you could use that as finisher, except for Number 17 (due to his effect). -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:44, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

my main questions

 * 1) what happens if the exceed monster is tributed (if possible) or destroyed/removed
 * 2) what if the exceed monster is stolen with brain control or similar cards and in that case where do the material monsters go.
 * 3) does the exceed monster take all the spots of the material monsters or do they all stack on the same space.
 * 4) are they treated as a level 0 or no level. for instance if I activate "weed out" which destroys all level 3 or lower monsters will it take out all the exceed monsters.


 * The Exceed Monster gets tributed/destroyed/removed, just like any other monsters, though any Exceed Material Monsters it may have are sent to the Graveyard.
 * Not sure, but they'd have to either go with the monster or get sent to the Graveyard - my money's on the latter, I think.
 * They all stack on one space - the Exceed Material Monsters are simply ignored for the purposes of the playing field (this also means they wouldn't be directly destroyed by effects like that of "Dark Hole", though since their Exceed Monster *had* been, they'd be sent to the Graveyard anyways).
 * Exceed Monsters do not have a Level. Therefore, "Weed Out", "Gravity Bind", "Level Limit - Area B", et al. do not have any effect on them. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:51, April 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * What would happens to Equip Card(s) when equipped to the Exceed Material Monster beforehand? Also, can the Exceed Monster be affected by cards that gives Levels like Synchro Boost? 70.79.82.181 (talk) 03:08, April 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * They probably get sent to the graveyard, and no. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:32, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think an Exceed equipped with Synchro Boost will gain the ATK boost, but not the Level gain.118.96.11.119 (talk) 15:49, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

More Questions 4 everyone 2 answer!!!
Will Skull lair affect an exceed monster, if it does does the controller of skull lair remove no monsters to destroy an exceed monster?Piro289 (talk • contribs) 12:28, April 28, 2011 (UTC)piro289


 * No. As has been said before, Exceed Monsters have no level - this does not mean their level is 0, it means they don't have a level. Therefore, effects that rely or operate on Levels do not affect Exceed Monsters. (However, you could remove from play an Exceed Monster in your Graveyard as part of "Skull Lair's" cost, since it doesn't say anything about the removed from play monsters needing to be a certain level.) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:36, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Move to "Xyz Monster"?
It appears that Exceeds are supposed to be spelled Xyz. With an open mind, it would be pronounced something like "Ex-seize" or something similar, and would match the Katakana.

So should we move it? If there's no opinion voiced otherwise, I'll move it in 18 hours. Burnpsy (talk • contribs) 02:25, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'd prefer to wait a while until we get more/official confirmation - assuming that's legit (and I'm not saying it isn't, but that's still a possibility), "Xyz" *could* be referring to something else. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * True, true. But if the picture is indeed legit, then there's not much else that the deck could be the "Dawn" of. Burnpsy (talk • contribs) 03:06, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * I would suggest that we wait till we can see the rule book or something explaining Exceeds. So we can move this page and Exceed Summon and anything else related at once. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 09:29, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * That makes perfect sense. Changing bit by bit wouldn't work, I suppose. In any case, I find the need to post this link. It contains a known Konami employee saying that Exceeds is an incorrect interpretation of the Japanese name. That may mean that the term "Exceed" may have to be tossed from the page later. Burnpsy (talk • contribs) 21:09, May 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * "Xyz" read as a word, rather than three letters, looks like a valid translation of "エクシ一ズ" (Ekushīzu) to me. The name of the Starter Deck makes it look more likely that that's what's going to be used, but doesn't necessarily prove it. But there's no proof of "Exceed" being correct either. If I had to bet money on what it is, I'd go with "Xyz", but I'd rather have direct proof before renaming the pages. I don't entirely like leaving the page at something that I think is more likely to be wrong either. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:26, May 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Like D-Neos said, Exceed is our only current proof and only know name/type of the new monsters. Xyz is just ridiculous translation, like "Pot of Greedersity" or "No. 17 Revise Dragon", which original made a mistake when it first came to the exist. So when TCG version of the deck that Exceed Monster is first exist in coming out, we can see the result, but for now, we cannot push it to change into silly article that have nothing to do with them. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:35, May 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * And it's been moved again. Yay, move wars! Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:42, May 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I disagree with the logic behind the move. It's not the exact same as the cards mentioned. We know they're the official English names of the cards because we've seen them printed on the cards or heard the name explicitly referring to those cards. We haven't heard "Xyz" explicitly being used to refer to these monsters. We've only heard the term "Xyz" and can assume it refers to these monsters.
 * FredCat: How is "Exceed" our only current proof? It's never officially been translated as that. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:00, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * At first, it was called "Excess" before it got change. The translation we have from that day since is known as "Exceed", which is known as our "current proof", as I called it. But why Xyz in the haste? And I have seen them all moved already, though you already stated that we need a direct proof. I am support with your opinion, my respect Admin, for moving this article along with it relates. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:03, May 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I can guarantee that if this article is not moved back and then move-protected, it will be moved again within twenty-four hours. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:12, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Were you sure you had enough coffee, Coffeedude? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:14, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did today, actually. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:21, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's good, I would perhaps tone it a little bit, as I could see you nearly jump all over the room just like • Rua -- F  r  e  d  C [[User:FredCat100/Theory_of_Evilness_of_Yusei_Fudo| a ]] t 23:24, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Besides "Xyz" being mentioned in the advertisement for the new Starter Deck, what evidence do you have? Care to link to it, please? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:39, May 26, 2011 (UTC)