Talk:Xyz Monster

Wording
Pretty sure it's called "Monster Exceed" or something from what I have read. It's backwards from the norm. Too lazy to login atm 75.84.122.182 (talk) 16:22, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Color
What color do you think they'll make them. Brown, Pink, Teal? Thanonyx (talk • contribs) 17:14, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

well the discussion about the colour was informed in YCM surprisingly. the colours of the card frame will be brown... sound distasteful... unless chocolate colour... xD. another info was concern that the specification of monsters isn't entirely narrowed down. as it said the requirement are at 2 monsters of any kinds that are in same level to summon but what left out is that it didn't say YOUR own monsters or at least. so people claiming the discussion that exceed summon is similar to super polymerization??? and of course people's opinion seem to think it's broken but that cannot be based on lack of an example of an excess monster's potential. Scheath666 (talk • contribs) 07:14, February 16, 2011 (UTC)Scheath666


 * I don't know about the color, but the summoning mechanic originated in this thread on Pojo.com - note the very first paragraph of the OP's comment:
 * "So I'm bored and the new mechanic from Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL actually sounds kind of interesting. So in the absence of more information about it, I've decided to mess around with my own ideas until more is presented. Feel free to add any cards if you want, but I'm more than certain I'll turn out to be way off about how Exceed Summoning works. (emphasis mine)"
 * As far as I can tell based on a Google search, there isn't actually *any* official word yet on how Exceed summons will work, or what color Exceed monster cards will be. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:43, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I have to agree with you, upon my research they really lack of concrete info and examples of how it does, so this info we have here could turn out to be liable but that is too hasty to conclude. before the info before this was stated that excess monsters are placed in the main deck but now the newer source of someone has mention that it is placed in extra deck instead. oddly i dun see anything about the star will come as black or so and be considered as rank than level. Scheath666 (talk • contribs) 08:08, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

I actually like this better than synchro, and even fusion summon (and ritual summon). In my opinion, it's much simpler to summon them, since instead of "first synchro these two monsters to get this synchro monster, and then synchro that with..." you know how it is, you just need two level three, two, one or four monsters etc. The card also looks pretty cool. I think a black background was the right way to go. This booster just might get me back into Yugioh XD (btw, I don't have an account, so I can't sign it)  :(

I hope that "Rank" will be interchangeable with "Level"; as in, cards that specify a "Level 5 monster" can apply to Rank 5 Exceed Monsters. Is this the case? 199.212.250.97 (talk) 14:40, February 18, 2011 (UTC) Nope. You connt use exceed(xyz what) for other exceed(xyz wtf) summons. They have ranks and that's different from levels. They might MAKe exceed (xyz..ugh) monsters that use other exceed(xy..z) monsters for them like they did with synchros..but the odds are low.

Numbers
I would also like to know why are some of them numbered like No. 39, Aspiring Emperor Hope and No. 17, Revise Dragon. Thanonyx (talk • contribs) 17:49, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind, now I know why, it's a plot device. It's on Astral's page.--Thanonyx (talk • contribs) 18:01, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

exxced summon
i would like to say wtf but is it just me or is yu-gi-oh getting easyier and easyier to summon big monsters i mean a level 4 with 2500 attack and it's a light plus it can be summoned by tirbute any 2 level 4 monsters (if thats right)gavity blind and level area b wouldn't be able to stop that thing if it's level is lowed. that is not how it work you overlay the monster and it's not called level it's rank and you don't tribute and all exceed monster cannot be affect by level affecting cards

So....
How do Level cards work? Will cards like Gravity Bind affect them? I'd guess they won't be affected by them, seeing as they aren't truly a monster with a Level. --Dark Star X(talk) 02:22, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's a very good question about Exceed Monsters and I am not going to lie. We may not be sure yet (or some of us do). Now I am wondering about that. EDIT: Oh wait, it is already in the article and I just noticed. They don't have Levels so Gravity Bond and other effects that affect levels do work on them. --NejiHyuga900 (talk | contributions) "I am the Thunder Dragon!" 05:14, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Summon Requirement
some of the future exceed monsters are probably going to have some requirement like Synchro Monsters like 2 level 3 WIND monsters or something like taht. 70.79.82.181 (talk) 02:45, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Why Exceed?
I'm just wondering how they got the name "Exceed Monsters". I can understand Ritual, Fusion, Synchro etc. but I'm not sure where this idea came from. RedDrgn (talk • contribs) 00:51, February 27, 2011 (UTC) cause they "Exceed" the other monsters in easiness to summon. No tributes, no stupid fusion card, no stupd specific spell card, and no complicated level adding.

lore
i was wondering why cards have japanese lore like "レベル３モンスター×２", but we just leave out the multiple sign like "2 Level 3 Monsters. 70.79.82.181 (talk) 08:02, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's shorthand. In Japanese, "レベル３モンスター２" or "２レベル３モンスター" would be nonsensical. "2 (Monsters)" would be written like "２枚の" or "２体の" or some such. Plus you'd use the former if referring to "2 Monster Cards" and the latter when referring to "2 Monsters". Using "×２" is about the most unambiguous way of writing it, even if it's not actually Japanese. In English, "2 Level 3 Monsters" is the most concise and unambiguous way of writing the same thing.--Ryusui (talk • contribs) 06:22, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Being Synchro Materials
Can Exceed Monsters be a Synchro Material? I mean cmon. maybe you can tune a LV2 Tuner. Example. LV2 Krebons + NoLV No. 39 Aspiring Emperor Hope = Formula Synchron. Is it possible? can someone confirm this? 112.201.53.45 (talk) 05:47, March 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * No. Synchro Summons require monsters whose Levels add up to the Synchro Monster's Level. Exceed Monsters do not have a Level, which means they cannot be used for any Cost or Tribute with a Level requirement, and any card effects involving Levels do not apply to them. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:02, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

The Synchros require a Tuner and a Non-Tuner. Currently There are no TUNER Exceed and i doubt that there will ever be. Exceeds are non-tuner. maybe they can be synchro materials. O.o 112.201.53.45 (talk) 11:23, March 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that unregistered user mean for Materials that hiding behind the Exceed Monsters. He wanna know if those "Materials" can be used for Synchro Summon. That's which I answered no. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  11:26, March 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Those Materials also can't be used as Synchro Material even if they have levels with tuners because Exceed Materials aren't considered "on the field. I guess that's the reason you can't use "tokens" as Exceed Materials.--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 12:23, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Exceed Material Monster
I have a question. What hapens when the Exceed Material Monster are remove under the Exceed Monster, is the Exceed Monster removed too or not? --Shiker&amp; (talk • contribs) 19:08, March 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Only if the entire Materials are gone while the effect text said that if it do not have any more Materials, then it can "remove" or destroy from the field. Some don't have that quote so it can stay on the field ever after the materials are gone. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:10, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I have a VERY similar question. What happens to the Exceed Material Monsters (if there are any) on an Exceed Monster when an Exceed Monster is removed fron the field? --Dark Star X(talk) 19:24, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I have another question but it its about the exceed monster, can they be special summon from the graveyard with monster reborn?--Shiker&amp; (talk • contribs) 23:59, April 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Affect same way with "Synchro Monster"/"Fusion Monster"/"Ritual Monster", only after they were summoning in their own way, except that Fusion Monster's update text (As of Elemental HERO, few of other that required to Fusion Summon first), you can Special Summon Exceed Monster back to the field, but remind ya that it don't have any more Materials to counter their opponent's plans. As you could use that as finisher, except for Number 17 (due to his effect). -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:44, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

I am hearing that you have to send the overlay material monster to the graveyard. What about token monsters? they don't exist in the graveyard, so can u even use them? would that make the monster kinda useless effect wise? 19:44, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

my main questions

 * 1) what happens if the exceed monster is tributed (if possible) or destroyed/removed
 * 2) what if the exceed monster is stolen with brain control or similar cards and in that case where do the material monsters go.
 * 3) does the exceed monster take all the spots of the material monsters or do they all stack on the same space.
 * 4) are they treated as a level 0 or no level. for instance if I activate "weed out" which destroys all level 3 or lower monsters will it take out all the exceed monsters.


 * The Exceed Monster gets tributed/destroyed/removed, just like any other monsters, though any Exceed Material Monsters it may have are sent to the Graveyard.
 * Not sure, but they'd have to either go with the monster or get sent to the Graveyard - my money's on the latter, I think.
 * They all stack on one space - the Exceed Material Monsters are simply ignored for the purposes of the playing field (this also means they wouldn't be directly destroyed by effects like that of "Dark Hole", though since their Exceed Monster *had* been, they'd be sent to the Graveyard anyways).
 * Exceed Monsters do not have a Level. Therefore, "Weed Out", "Gravity Bind", "Level Limit - Area B", et al. do not have any effect on them. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:51, April 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * What would happens to Equip Card(s) when equipped to the Exceed Material Monster beforehand? Also, can the Exceed Monster be affected by cards that gives Levels like Synchro Boost? 70.79.82.181 (talk) 03:08, April 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * They probably get sent to the graveyard, and no. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:32, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think an Exceed equipped with Synchro Boost will gain the ATK boost, but not the Level gain.118.96.11.119 (talk) 15:49, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

More Questions 4 everyone 2 answer!!!
Will Skull lair affect an exceed monster, if it does does the controller of skull lair remove no monsters to destroy an exceed monster?Piro289 (talk • contribs) 12:28, April 28, 2011 (UTC)piro289


 * No. As has been said before, Exceed Monsters have no level - this does not mean their level is 0, it means they don't have a level. Therefore, effects that rely or operate on Levels do not affect Exceed Monsters. (However, you could remove from play an Exceed Monster in your Graveyard as part of "Skull Lair's" cost, since it doesn't say anything about the removed from play monsters needing to be a certain level.) 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:36, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Move to "Xyz Monster"?
It appears that Exceeds are supposed to be spelled Xyz. With an open mind, it would be pronounced something like "Ex-seize" or something similar, and would match the Katakana.

So should we move it? If there's no opinion voiced otherwise, I'll move it in 18 hours. Burnpsy (talk • contribs) 02:25, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'd prefer to wait a while until we get more/official confirmation - assuming that's legit (and I'm not saying it isn't, but that's still a possibility), "Xyz" *could* be referring to something else. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * True, true. But if the picture is indeed legit, then there's not much else that the deck could be the "Dawn" of. Burnpsy (talk • contribs) 03:06, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * I would suggest that we wait till we can see the rule book or something explaining Exceeds. So we can move this page and Exceed Summon and anything else related at once. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 09:29, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * That makes perfect sense. Changing bit by bit wouldn't work, I suppose. In any case, I find the need to post this link. It contains a known Konami employee saying that Exceeds is an incorrect interpretation of the Japanese name. That may mean that the term "Exceed" may have to be tossed from the page later. Burnpsy (talk • contribs) 21:09, May 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * "Xyz" read as a word, rather than three letters, looks like a valid translation of "エクシ一ズ" (Ekushīzu) to me. The name of the Starter Deck makes it look more likely that that's what's going to be used, but doesn't necessarily prove it. But there's no proof of "Exceed" being correct either. If I had to bet money on what it is, I'd go with "Xyz", but I'd rather have direct proof before renaming the pages. I don't entirely like leaving the page at something that I think is more likely to be wrong either. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:26, May 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Like D-Neos said, Exceed is our only current proof and only know name/type of the new monsters. Xyz is just ridiculous translation, like "Pot of Greedersity" or "No. 17 Revise Dragon", which original made a mistake when it first came to the exist. So when TCG version of the deck that Exceed Monster is first exist in coming out, we can see the result, but for now, we cannot push it to change into silly article that have nothing to do with them. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  19:35, May 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * And it's been moved again. Yay, move wars! Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:42, May 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I disagree with the logic behind the move. It's not the exact same as the cards mentioned. We know they're the official English names of the cards because we've seen them printed on the cards or heard the name explicitly referring to those cards. We haven't heard "Xyz" explicitly being used to refer to these monsters. We've only heard the term "Xyz" and can assume it refers to these monsters.
 * FredCat: How is "Exceed" our only current proof? It's never officially been translated as that. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:00, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * At first, it was called "Excess" before it got change. The translation we have from that day since is known as "Exceed", which is known as our "current proof", as I called it. But why Xyz in the haste? And I have seen them all moved already, though you already stated that we need a direct proof. I am support with your opinion, my respect Admin, for moving this article along with it relates. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:03, May 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I can guarantee that if this article is not moved back and then move-protected, it will be moved again within twenty-four hours. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:12, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Were you sure you had enough coffee, Coffeedude? -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:14, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did today, actually. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:21, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's good, I would perhaps tone it a little bit, as I could see you nearly jump all over the room just like Rua -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  23:24, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Currently we have just as much prrof as "Exceed' as Excess or anything else. We actually have MORE evidence leaning towards Xyz than Exceed, so by Wiki rules we must use teh more suprted name. Besides, Exceed has alreday been debunked by both Japan and English represnttaives, so teh chnage stays. Lush_City (talk • contribs) 00:28, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Besides "Xyz" being mentioned in the advertisement for the new Starter Deck, what evidence do you have? Care to link to it, please? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:39, May 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?p=21610197&highlight=exceeds#post21610197 That vouches for the validity of my source AND the invalidty of Exceed. Straight from a Konami lead Excecutive. Lush City (talk • contribs) 01:42, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Tewart says nothing about xyz. He says Exceed is wrong, but that's it. Him saying Exceed is wrong simply means that we know Exceed won't be the official English name. It doesn't meant the translation was wrong, Tewart is known to twist things like that, and would tell you that "Dark Magician" isn't called "Black Magician" in Japan if he could get away with it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:58, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I know, which means, as of now, he have more evidence for "Xyz" that "Exceed" even if Xyz has only one source that still beats the 'zero sources Exceed has; since Exceed is off the table it's either Xyz or Excess and since the latter has NO evidence we must go with Xyz by process of elimination. Lush City (talk • contribs) 02:29, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * The issue is that the article you linked to doesn't specify what xyz refers to. It's likely Exceed monsters, but that's confirmed. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:38, May 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * A 'likely" geuss as to what they are caled is nevertheless superior to what we know is CONFIRMED wrong.Lush City (talk • contribs) 02:41, May 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not so sure about that. It's always been that no speculation is allowed. When we hear an upcoming term, but haven't been told what it refers to, it's speculation to make an assumption as to what it refers to. Many users tried editing the Signer Dragons page to say "Life Stream Dragon" (before we knew its name) was "Power Tool Dragon" or "Black-Winged Dragon" (before we saw what it looked like). We used the name "fifth Dragon" at the time, which obviously wasn't going to be what it was called. The other two were guesses which had some logic behind them, but it would have been very wrong to say that they were "Life Stream Dragon". It would be bad if these pages were called "Xyz" and later find "Xyz" was referring to something else. "Exceed" at least isn't referring to something else.
 * I am quite sure "Xyz" is referring to these monsters, but wouldn't use it as a page name until it's confirmed. I don't like using the name "Exceed" knowing it's wrong either, but it's the only other alternative at the moment. It's at least a valid translation of "エクシ一ズ" and many people are using it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:53, May 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why are we even discussing this with some random newbie user who just can't understand the fundamental rules of the Wiki? Speculation is not used to name pages, or at least, it shouldn't be. Move it back to Exceed Monsters and move-protect it. There's no point arguing with people with stupid mentalities.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 14:04, May 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why don't we do the same thing we did with Life Stream, where you called it "fifth dragon"? If we don't know that Xyz refers to them yet, and we know Exceed and Excess are wrong, why don't we write something like "black-bordered monsters"?  That's what Konami has been referring to them as for now, that and "the new monster type later this year".  If you guys want I can go get proof of this.  It just seems weird to say one name doesn't work because it could be wrong, and then go use something else that's also wrong.SuperKirbyFan (talk • contribs) 14:15, May 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * But the fact is that we've used "Exceed" up to this point. The new name will be revealed soon, anyway, so we might as well use what we had before busybodies started changing it. We could use "black-border monsters" and "black-border summon", but that is pretty awkward and seems unnecessary.-YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 14:17, May 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Doesn't matter if it seems awkward if it's correct. It also doesn't matter what we've been using in the past, if it's wrong.  The fact stands that we don't know if Xyz refers to these new monsters, we know that Exceed and Excess are both wrong, and we also know that Konami has said "black-bordered monster" multiple times.  Therefore, that would be the most correct name.  SuperKirbyFan (talk • contribs) 14:56, May 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not actually a Newbie Yam, and even if I was using claimed seniority and insults to back up faulty reasoning is a bad ploy. (I actually lost my old account). In any case we KNOW Exceed is wrong so we cant use the term. If anything I'd use your idea of "black bordered monsters" if only to be with 100% compliance. I personally value educated speculation over outright  lying, which is what the willing use of the term 'Exceed' on this site amounts to.Lush City (talk • contribs) 18:58, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think we should use the Term Exceed, mainly because that is the best translation we got. We don't know what XYZ means, it may be a monster, it may be a new Archetype, it may be an anagram for the new name of the monsters. Hell, it could also be something Konami made up because it sounds cool. Exceed may be wrong, but it is the best we got. And its not lying, its simply putting the name that we have to something. So unless Konami makes an OFFICIAL statement that XYZ is the new name (which sounds absolutely stupid), Exceed is the best we got. And "Black-Bordered-Monsters is something a 5 year old would put as the name. It may not be the most accurate translation, but its simply the best we got. (P.S. I fixed your spelling errors.) (Jamesfury (talk • contribs) 20:20, May 26, 2011 (UTC)).


 * I'd like to bring up the official site. Linked is the product page for the upcoming starter deck, "Dawn of the Xyz", and it directly uses the term "Xyz monsters" and gives images of the three in the deck. Miar (talk • contribs) 03:58, May 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Great, case closed. I see the articles have already been moved back. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:37, May 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Isn't Xyz the English TCG name, while Exceed is the original OCG name? I thought that was the case. Patrick (talk • contribs) 17:22, May 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * "Exceed" was never used anywhere: "Yeah the Katakana could be done that way. They pronounce it Ekkushiizu. Ekkusu is x, the sound "i" could be for a y so they switch "su" to "shi" and then add "zu" for z." DemonGodAsura (talk • contribs) 17:37, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Right, Exceed was a commonly accepted translation that had no context. It wasn't wrong, but it wasn't exactly right either. "Xyz" is another possible translation, just not one a translator would be likely to use. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:12, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yes people. i have played the xyz deck and in america its xyz but exceed may bw japan. i am positively sure. rapsak31

Swarm
Am I the only one who feels like this mechanic in general is going to make swarm decks really, really overpowered? I mean, one of the biggest weaknesses of a swarm deck has always been overextending. But now, you can just transform all your swarming monsters in to giant beaters. Let's think about the ye olde Gadget - Offering combo. Before, it gave you a full field of shitty monsters for 2000 life. Now, it gets you 3 Vylon Disigmas and 2 Gem-Knight Pearls for 5000 life. 74.88.225.49 (talk) 13:12, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, but dont forget, there are plenty of synchroswarm tactics too. Like the blackwings or x-sabers, who can pull off mass swarms of synchros in a single turn.

On another note, imagine if some ridiculously complex monster came out that required 2x lv (watever) fusion monsters that require synchro-fusion material monsters. Ridiculous? yes. i dont care. pulling that off would be amazing. Alboono (talk • contribs) 14:31, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Something like a Level 10 Xyz that has 5 Dragon Knight Draco-Equiste as the Xyz Material? Yeah that would be awesome. Order (talk • contribs) 03:03, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, sorry, your deck limitation only can go up to 3, not five or zillion. -- F  r  e  d  C  a  t  22:40, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Well there are cards that copy other card's name....but yeah, I wasn't thinking about the 3 limit when I typed that lolOrder (talk • contribs) 06:45, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Dragon's Mirror
In response to this edit summary by Wasn't, as far as I can tell, "Dragon's Mirror" would apply to Xyz Monsters without any problem, if there were any Dragon-Type Fusion Monsters that named specific Xyz Monsters for their Fusion Summons, since its effect says nothing about Levels. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:59, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * That will only work on "Five-Headed Dragon" so far.--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 20:50, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * From what I can understand based on the effect and rulings for Dragon's Mirror, I don't think it would apply for FHD, since it sound like the Fusion Monster must list the Fusion Material Monsters, instead of just asking for a certain number of them. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:25, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

("Dragon's Mirror"'s effect does apply to (FHD) also list the fusion-materials it needs.)--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 00:15, June 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * It says "The Fusion Material Monsters for this card are any 5 Dragon-Type monsters" on FHD's... Fusion materials don't always have to be "..."; it can be "types", "levels", "1st name", and "attributes"--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 00:21, June 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * If the Dragon's Mirror can apply to Xyz Monsters, then can it apply to other types of monsters that will come up in the future? --Scourge The Hedgehog (talk • contribs) 18:26, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it will if it doesn't involve level(s). you can even use them for "Chimeratech Fortress Dragon" if you teat them as a machines and you have "Cyber Dragon".--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 21:08, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Question.
what happens to theXyz Material monster when the Xyz Monster is sent back to the Extra Deck.--Shiker&amp; (talk • contribs) 19:34, July 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * They most likely go to their default place.--Wasn&#39;t (talk • contribs) 19:42, July 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * They get sent to the Graveyard. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:18, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia links
keeps removing one or both Wikipedia links in the article's lede, pointing to Antimatter and Black hole, with the first removal accompanied by the edit summary ""Black Hole" is not a YGO term and was used in a scientific matter rather than the game itself." Just to be clear, these links are not intended to add anything to the text from the perspective of theYu-Gi-Oh! franchise or card game(s), but rather are meant to allow further reading on the real-world topics for anyone so inclined. The links should not be removed again without clear, solid reasoning posted here on the talk page. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:54, August 1, 2011 (UTC)